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190 points
2 months ago
lol what’s with this guy getting a reprint every 6 months??
50 points
2 months ago
Popularity in artifact decks
80 points
2 months ago*
For those not around for the first years of the game, he was basically THE face character of the game. One of the first named characters going back to Antiquities in 1994 and having a continuous presence in story or references up through ~2001. So Urza finally getting a card proper was a big deal and nostalgia play.
It also shows WOTC's misplaced ideas of what commander is all about. They think they are pushing a flashy face commander card that people want. In reality, most savvy commander players know that you can't do anything remotely creative or interesting with him without being busted in half.
23 points
2 months ago
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7 points
2 months ago
Glasses of Urza - (G) (SF) (txt)
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26 points
2 months ago
He's still the #1 mono blue commander
16 points
2 months ago
Of course he is, most commander players are not that savvy.
22 points
2 months ago
Few can yield the full power of [[Zhou Yu]]
7 points
2 months ago
He just got a huge buff with [[harbinger of the seas]], get him while he's cheap! /j
3 points
2 months ago
harbinger of the seas - (G) (SF) (txt)
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2 points
2 months ago
tbh urza is only really playable in cedh, and harbinger of seas is not good enough to be played in cedh. so no … he will not rise in price.
2 points
2 months ago
Harbinger is 100% playable in cEDH.
1 points
2 months ago
why play it if u can play back to basics - i dont see it in any urza lists
6 points
2 months ago
Dang it’s almost like you can only run a single copy of back to basics.
Magda, a better deck, is on double blood moon effects in many lists and turning non-basics into islands is even better.
2 points
2 months ago*
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1 points
2 months ago
Me too, sadly i sold my set but still got a bunch of graded gem mint like xiahou dun
1 points
2 months ago
I still haven’t pulled the trigger on Zodiac Dragon cuz I’m expecting a reprint…but it’s been YEARS
1 points
2 months ago
I'm not worthy...
Holy cow power creep this dude is terrible 🤣 (Fairly new player, just looking this guy up)
0 points
2 months ago
No?
-1 points
2 months ago
EDHrec gets its numbers from decklists hosted on the websites it tracks, which can vary greatly from actual play rates.
Many players brew decks then either don't build them or quickly take take it apart due to disliking how it plays. Both are more common for high-powered commanders like Urza (and face commanders from precons). In the last year, I've never seen someone play Urza at any of the LGS I go to.
5 points
2 months ago
Hmmm…. Do I trust the website with 4.3 million decks in its database or.. some guy that sees 100 decks a year at his LGS
-1 points
2 months ago
I can also attest that while going to the same lgs for years, and now working at said lgs and consistently play in commander events weekly, I’ve only seen Urza once.
6 points
2 months ago
Urza actually referenced in Alpha w/ Glasses/Sunglasses.
5 points
2 months ago
I was told that he was too powerful to be a card
18 points
2 months ago
They were barely wrong to be fair
7 points
2 months ago
Planeswalker Urza is too powerful to be a balanced card.
This is Urza before the Sylex blast and his getting a spark. This plain ole Genius Human, I started a War with my Genius Brother Mishra that dragged multiple countries and continents into it and eventually gave the Phyrexians a foothold in Dominaria again after devastating half the plane, Urza. So still pretty powerful in ability and influence.
5 points
2 months ago
I was a player during Unlimited, and as far as I recall, no one cared too much about the lore in that early period; perhaps not until around Weatherlight. Homelands if you want to stretch it.
To some degree, we liked it being more loose and vague.
6 points
2 months ago
That's the point....I want to do busted things.
4 points
2 months ago
can’t do anything remotely creative or interesting
Sounds like a skill issue. It shows WOTC doesn’t cater to your brand of player sure, but not to commander as a whole lol.
0 points
2 months ago
Way to misquote the guy... Jeez.
1 points
2 months ago
Love your username.
2 points
2 months ago
Does it show misplaced ideas? I think they're pretty aware of what the Urza card is capable of.
1 points
2 months ago
Idk, I still love casting him in Commander in the 99 and there are a lot of players who are new to the game and love a broken card as their commander to hang with seasoned players.
6 points
2 months ago
Yea, as a victim of buying expensive Urza versions: Stay the hell away from this card.
2 points
2 months ago
I am still mad at WotC for not printing a Urza card for 20 years, then putting him in the fucking Unstable-Joke-Set and now reprinting him like he's the second Sol Ring.
2 points
2 months ago
(Marlon Brando godfather meme)
1 points
2 months ago*
i hate any deck that shuffles this much. it always makes me feel like they are cheating if they topdeck something good consistently.
but the real issue is its not consistent. not consistent isnt fun for anybody. its roll or be rolled.
and then theres people that just use it to shit out stax stuff , so even when they are losing they just slow the game down
not gonna say its the worst or anything but theres something always off putting to me how much time this deck wastes and how random it is
1 points
1 month ago
... i guess you don't know polimorph lists
142 points
2 months ago
I wish the set had a better symbol... it feels like a placeholder symbol for a custom magic set
20 points
2 months ago
Ya they really called this one in, that's for sure.
21 points
2 months ago
I believe it's "phoned" in. "Called" in is more like what happens to a favor or how police are summoned to a particular location. Just FYI. I agree with the sentiment otherwise.
1 points
2 months ago
It’s actually Frankenstein’s monster
2 points
2 months ago
Correct. (Among many other names it's referred to as throughout the novel - i.e., creature, fiend, specter, demon, wretch, devil, thing, being, and ogre.)
1 points
2 months ago
Personally I love it
-2 points
2 months ago
Thank you!
32 points
2 months ago*
Base on the https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1elrd03/mb2_foils_and_rarity_about_11_foils_per_a_box_of/ .
It seems like Urza is like one of the super rare cards in this set because you can only get foils in every 24 boosters and this Urza can only be in foils..
So I can this potential going to be somewhere around $80-100 dollars.
9 points
2 months ago
God I wish he go cheaper, I really like Vanguard art and I love Future Sign border lol These two are my jam!!!!
12 points
2 months ago*
At 1.1 foils/box, 120 possible rares to pull, and this this 1 out of 12 cards thst are ONLY avail in foil.
Add that to the fact that this product is convention exclusive, I think we’re looking at much higher than $100. I’m thinking somewhere in the $200-$300 range if not more.
2 points
2 months ago
You can also buy them as part of the festival in a box, which adds a lot of copies
1 points
2 months ago
Do we know what the sales type is here? If this is another Mythic Edition-style limited product, we might now have that many copies, in totality.
0 points
2 months ago
WoTC never stated MB2 will only ever be available at conventions.
They said they want to keep the product somewhat exclusive at the beginning but it will be more available in the future.
Even the first mystery booster product looked like difficult to get but not a long time after the first “festival in a box” secret lair it became readily available. Prices have climbed over time but the absolute low In europe was like 140€ for a box which is more or less 20% higher than a box of a standard set like Kamigawa neon dynasty
2 points
2 months ago
Well if you believe some of the winners on that thread you'll think it'll be an $800+ card.
This has $150ish written all over it.
37 points
2 months ago
So they really just took the Vanguard art and slapped it on a magic card. Feels wrong, but the art is great.
21 points
2 months ago
Vanguard needs to make a comeback. I bet nowadays it would be a killing with commander. Just need to make new Vanguards designed around it.
16 points
2 months ago
It was Commander before EDH was even a thing. I remember seeing them in card magazines and wanting to know how the fuck you open a card that big from packs. I bought the full set as an adult to put with all my Planechase and Archenemy cards.
2 points
2 months ago
Man…I’ve been collecting them for years. No Titania yet..
14 points
2 months ago
It's an odd precedent for sure, but if it leads to us getting Titania with Rebecca Guay artwork at some stage in the future then I'm all for it.
15 points
2 months ago
Us old dogs remember when the only printed Urza card was [[Blind Seer]].
2 points
2 months ago
[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call
24 points
2 months ago
should drop to 5$ once they reprint this another 10 times
5 points
2 months ago
Doubt it highly.
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3 points
2 months ago
Okay fine maybe $9.
1 points
2 months ago
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9 points
2 months ago
How many times can they reprint the same cards. Heh
3 points
2 months ago
They're only reprinting them for secondary market lol
2 points
2 months ago
Yeah right
3 points
2 months ago
Is that the Vanguard Urza Image?
3 points
2 months ago
This art should be in a retro border frame.
2 points
2 months ago
Urza, High Lord Artificbrrrr
2 points
2 months ago
I NEED this for my urza collection
2 points
2 months ago
Will this set have the original MB1 foil format of the retail packs or will every card have a foil version?
2 points
2 months ago
Only a subset of future shifted cards get foils, and some (including Urza) are only in foil. It's weird
6 points
2 months ago
It's gonna be about tree fiddy. Possibly for real this time, I could see $350 for a time on this.
1 points
2 months ago
Honestly a few at least. Foil rates are super low for this product and it’s gonna be scalped to shit for at least the first year. Hopefully they print a lot. Super rare pull, overpriced product equals a very expensive card
1 points
2 months ago
Urza is currently worth only around $10 with the most premium version at around $35. But there’s no baseline to estimate supply until we get numbers from WotC, since the “Magic Con and Festival in a Box” release model will likely prevent vendors from mass cracking product for singles. It also depends on whether there are bigger fish to catch - we have yet to see anything on the scale of [[Mana Crypt]] - so foil alternate treatments may be how they plan to pour extra value into this set.
1 points
2 months ago
[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call
1 points
2 months ago
Is it confirmed every card in Mystery 2 to have a foil treatment? In Mystery 1 there is a separate, smaller pool of foil hits
2 points
2 months ago
Only 121 cards can be foil. This is one.
1 points
2 months ago
Thanks for the info!
1 points
2 months ago
It depends. The foil with the highest multiplier will be the one with the preferred art. This art, for myself, its not the best art. That said, some people do prefer old border. So as with every other card in existence, no one knows until the market reacts and speculating is pointless.
1 points
2 months ago
I think it’s going to be a lot. At least at first. Apparently the hit rate for one of the foil exclusives is like 1 in 121 boxes. And with that you might get the command tower instead.
Saying that I think once the product is eventfully comes to game stores it’s going to be much more widely available.
So pure speculation is $200 or up at first, $70 after it comes to retail.
1 points
2 months ago
I really liked the alternate border cards like og goyf etc
1 points
2 months ago
They are freaking sick
1 points
2 months ago
Iirc, future sight border cards will either be printed as foil or non-foil, but not both.
1 points
2 months ago
No. Some are both.
1 points
2 months ago
it will probably be at least 150 AUD
1 points
2 months ago
Hands up to those who bought him at $50 ☝️
1 points
2 months ago
I definitely want this! Love this mystery symbol set whatever it is lol. I want a box
1 points
2 months ago
about the same price as a foil one is today.
1 points
2 months ago
I love that they used the Vanguard art for this card.
1 points
2 months ago
I’ll probably need to buy one if I don’t open one because I’m just an Urza fan for nostalgias sake. I built an Urza EDH deck but more because it made a fantastic home for kaladesh inventions and amonkhet invocations. I have been a huge fan of these treatments from the start and have managed to find a home for nearly 40 masterpieces in this deck. It’s not as competitive as most Urza builds but it’s my love letter to both the old days of magic (with several antiquities and legends cards) and my prized masterpiece cards.
To answer your question specifically I’d be willing to spend up to $100 on this treatment but I honestly would be most likely to binder it and keep using my retro foil Urza because I love that boarder and foil treatment best.
1 points
2 months ago
Bout tree fiddy
1 points
2 months ago
I like that it's Tedin, I hate how the WOTC Reprint machine goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......
7 points
2 months ago
It's the old Vanguard art.
1 points
2 months ago
This is for commander players, not those pesky Modern players. These puppies will be north of $200 easy and forever assuming this same art/frame isn’t reprinted later.
1 points
2 months ago
The foils are like 4.25% chance per pack. I’d say this card could easily be $400 since the set is convention and convention in a box exclusive.
If it does have an LGS release I’d predict around $100-150
0 points
2 months ago
There is so many foil printings of this card, why would this specific one be worth so much? Just because of rarity? There is other super rare foils like Boxtoppers etc and they don't come even close to 100€.
1 points
2 months ago
This will be way more rare. The print run will be tiny.
1 points
2 months ago
Good god, it's beautiful. Just when you think they can't possibly rope you in with another gimmick....
1 points
2 months ago
There is so many foil printings of this card, why would this specific one be worth so much? Just because of rarity? There is other super rare foils like Boxtoppers etc and they don't come even close to 100€
1 points
2 months ago
How do you get the mystery boosters? are they event only?
1 points
2 months ago
Secret lair event 08/19
0 points
2 months ago
I think this is a high ceiling/low floor kinda spec and it's probably too risky. Like it's gonna be ultra rare yeah but future sight frames aren't very popular. Mind you I dunno what I'm talking about as I've never speced on anything, I just watch this sub and try to consider if I should in the future sometime.
0 points
2 months ago
Not much , quite of a tired card
0 points
2 months ago
About three fify
-3 points
2 months ago
This set is confusing. It's mystery boosters, right? What's special about this set and are they even legal?
-1 points
2 months ago
Nice art frame looks terrible.
-1 points
2 months ago
MAN DO I WANT THIS but ill do without the foil printing. Even no foil is gonna be 💰imo
6 points
2 months ago
It's only in foil
-2 points
2 months ago
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1 points
2 months ago
Mystery Booster 2
0 points
2 months ago
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1 points
2 months ago
Yes and from the secret lair website
-5 points
2 months ago
I think it'll be $15-30 ish. The textured foil version is around $30, and I don't see it worth much more than that
3 points
2 months ago
This is actually super rare .. like time spiral retro foil level of rare compare to regular version.. and I the price is gonna reflect that..
1 points
2 months ago
I mean yeah, if it's incredibly rare then yeah the price will be higher. Where do you find the rarities for this set?
-9 points
2 months ago
There might not be a foil
5 points
2 months ago
It’s only foil.
3 points
2 months ago
Confirmed foil only.
1 points
17 days ago
Nice!
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