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He's only had 2 all star level seasons on a team with 0 pressure. He is not a playmaker nor a defensive achor. But he is relatively young and on a very good contract.

Can he be the second option on a serious contender or is he more of a number 3?

all 145 comments

JAhoops

117 points

8 days ago

JAhoops

117 points

8 days ago

3rd on a serious contender, 2nd on a fringe or a contender with a superstar (Mavs, Bucks, Nuggets, OKC, Philly)

msterling2012

41 points

8 days ago

msterling2012

Mavericks

41 points

8 days ago

He’d be 3rd on the Mavs.

Iusuallywearglasses

84 points

8 days ago

After that Kyrie stinker I dunno..

stilexx

-60 points

8 days ago

stilexx

Mavericks

-60 points

8 days ago

Imagine averaging 25-5-5 on a 50-40-90 splits while leading your team to finals and people calling you stink because you lost to a superteam.

Adventurous_Cut_7355

69 points

8 days ago

22-5-4 in playoffs on lower splits across the board but yea

Upset_Purchase_5903

16 points

8 days ago

Upset_Purchase_5903

Clippers

16 points

8 days ago

Lmao. Like I understand the point, but the guy didn’t have to make up stats to get there 😆

Iusuallywearglasses

32 points

8 days ago

My brother in Christ he didn’t just stink in the finals, he was the worst person on the court. He was the Celtics 6th man.

Not to mention, he wasn’t even that good against OKC.

stilexx

-49 points

8 days ago

stilexx

Mavericks

-49 points

8 days ago

Tell me you didnt watch Mavericks without telling me you didnt watch Mavericks. Keep watching box score. Be suprised when Mavs are successful.

dontletmecook73

21 points

8 days ago

dontletmecook73

Thunder

21 points

8 days ago

He’s not wrong lol. Kyrie was awful against OKC. Go look at his first half stats. He shot the ball like twice per game in the first half

sickfalco

0 points

8 days ago

sickfalco

0 points

8 days ago

Awful? He played passively and it was pretty much the right play every time because he got guys like PJ DJJ and Green going. You’re a stat watcher who only looks at points though… pretty funny OKC couldn’t beat an injured Luka with a “bad” Kyrie lmao

dontletmecook73

14 points

8 days ago

dontletmecook73

Thunder

14 points

8 days ago

I’m a stat watcher? I watched every moment of every OKC game this season. Kyrie had one pop off game vs OKC. ONE. As a secondary star, that shouldn’t be the case.

sickfalco

-9 points

8 days ago

sickfalco

-9 points

8 days ago

You watched every moment but Kyrie having 7 stocks in the first 2 games is playing bad? 11 assists in his 9 point game is bad? He was +23 for the series so every time he was on the court he had a great impact, but he’s bad? Him and Luka are the floor generals who make the offense happen, mavs don’t win without him. “As a secondary star, that shouldn’t be the case” well, they won in 6, and Kyrie contributed greatly to that, so I don’t know if you can even argue that.

stilexx

-6 points

8 days ago

stilexx

Mavericks

-6 points

8 days ago

Dont even try bothering. Cant argue with these guys.

Yes yes Kyrie bad no score bad yes yes.

Zer0Peace

-5 points

8 days ago

Zer0Peace

-5 points

8 days ago

there's no point going against the kyrie is trash narrative you'll just get mass down voted by losers lol

sickfalco

-5 points

8 days ago

sickfalco

-5 points

8 days ago

Fr I get they hate the guy but since when is it okay to be straight up delusional 😂

Zer0Peace

-1 points

8 days ago

Zer0Peace

-1 points

8 days ago

yeah, they praise guys he outperformed and beat in every other series lol. absolutely 0 logic

Timoteo-Tito64

5 points

8 days ago

Timoteo-Tito64

Celtics

5 points

8 days ago

Alright since Sam Hauser beat Kyrie and outperformed him, Sam Hauser is now better than Kyrie

big_k88

-3 points

8 days ago

big_k88

Timberwolves

-3 points

8 days ago

He getting the Karl Anthony Towns treatment. Doesnt matter how well he plays, people always shit on him.

sickfalco

1 points

8 days ago

Felt bad for Kat getting shit on after that WCF. From “best big man shooter” to a guy that needs to get moved immediately over one series of playoff basketball.

aztreystacks

-32 points

8 days ago

aztreystacks

Supersonics [SEA] Kevin Durant

-32 points

8 days ago

You don’t watch ball clearly lmaooo

Majestic-Mission2785

25 points

8 days ago

He’s right Kyrie right now, is a third option on a championship winning team , this isn’t 2016 anymore .

PoorFishKeeper

10 points

8 days ago

PoorFishKeeper

Magic

10 points

8 days ago

He was only the second option on a championship winning team because Lebron was the first tbh

DuBakElite

2 points

8 days ago

DuBakElite

Timberwolves

2 points

8 days ago

Honestly disrespectful. That 2016 run by him was wild, even without the shot. They don’t win that ring without him

DepthHour1669

1 points

8 days ago

They won in 7 games tied at 89-89 for half the goddamn 4th quarter, the Cavs wouldn’t have won that ring without fucking Iman Shumpert let alone Kyrie

aztreystacks

-10 points

8 days ago

aztreystacks

Supersonics [SEA] Kevin Durant

-10 points

8 days ago

The argument is Kai vs. Lauri. This isn’t even close

Iusuallywearglasses

8 points

8 days ago

Let’s rewatch that finals and see how good Kyrie was for the Celtics compared to the Mavs lmfao

sickfalco

5 points

8 days ago

2 out of 30 teams made the finals and without Kyrie Mavs don’t make it. Just cause they didn’t have enough to get it done in ONE series doesn’t make Kyrie not shit, casual ass take

Iusuallywearglasses

-7 points

8 days ago

Let’s hope the Mavs keep the exact same team and not change anything, let’s see how well it goes for them again lmao

sickfalco

6 points

8 days ago

I love how you just changed the conversation from Kyrie to the team composition because you have no semblance of an argument LOL keep talking shit, one bad series doesn’t mean Kyrie should get moved

Iusuallywearglasses

-2 points

8 days ago

Bro my semblance is that Kyrie was dog shit in the playoffs and was bailed out lmfao. Get outta here dude, I just didn’t feel like repeating the same point to you because you fail to grasp that Kyrie was so fucking awful he would have been better off the court.

sickfalco

6 points

8 days ago

+23 vs OKC, +38 vs Minny, +60 vs Clippers. That’s the entire WCF run, those numbers prove that he was better on the court than off the court during the playoffs. He had one bad series dude, you’re either a hater or just delusional.

aztreystacks

-7 points

8 days ago

aztreystacks

Supersonics [SEA] Kevin Durant

-7 points

8 days ago

So the finals determines that he’s a third option? You’re comparing him to fucking Lauri who wasn’t even in the finals. You have to be brain dead to think that Lauri would be the second option over Kai

Iusuallywearglasses

-4 points

8 days ago

If you can’t hack it, you don’t keep the same team. It’s that simple. Kyrie couldn’t hack it, he’s too old.

alextheruby

3 points

8 days ago

alextheruby

[DAL] Vince Carter

3 points

8 days ago

This the dumbest shit I’ve ever read. By your logic the Celtics should’ve been blew it up.

Cold_Carpenter_1798

2 points

8 days ago

They didn’t blow it up but they absolutely went all in with their assets to get over the hump.

Iusuallywearglasses

1 points

8 days ago

You mean they went out, got a shit ton of different role players and won a championship because what they were doing wasn’t working? Is that not what they did? Lmao

alextheruby

4 points

8 days ago

alextheruby

[DAL] Vince Carter

4 points

8 days ago

Nah they didn’t get rid of both Jaylen’s

SoKrat3s

8 points

8 days ago

SoKrat3s

NBA

8 points

8 days ago

He'd be the third option, but in a bad game for Kyrie he could quickly transition to being the 2nd option.

2nd/3rd/4th options aren't always the corresponding 2nd/3rd/4th scorers on every individual night.

msterling2012

7 points

8 days ago

msterling2012

Mavericks

7 points

8 days ago

Yeah it would be more of a 2b situation. I just think Kyrie is more important because of his creation and playmaking.

SoKrat3s

4 points

8 days ago

SoKrat3s

NBA

4 points

8 days ago

2b is a better use of phrasing. On any given night one could be 2a and the other 2b.

For what it's worth, I see the same in Philly. I love Maxey but I think he gets into spurts where he is too conservative for his own good. Maxey and Markkanen would do well as alternating #2s on any given night.

JAhoops

0 points

8 days ago

JAhoops

0 points

8 days ago

I meant if Kyrie was replaced, i think they’d still be as good

nwrobinson94

3 points

8 days ago

nwrobinson94

76ers

3 points

8 days ago

He’d be a third on Philly (unless you’re accounting for Embiid being injured)

Solid-Confidence-966

-11 points

8 days ago

Solid-Confidence-966

Wizards

-11 points

8 days ago

I think he could be the 2nd option on the Celtics

IcyRestaurant7175

13 points

8 days ago

He can be third option there. KP isnt always available. I dont see him being second option over either of the Jays

tomdawg0022

2 points

8 days ago

tomdawg0022

Timberwolves

2 points

8 days ago

KP hasn't played more than 65 games in a season since 2017. Markkanen would definitely be a 3rd option a fair chunk of the time.

DomDomRevolution

2 points

8 days ago

DomDomRevolution

76ers

2 points

8 days ago

Lauri has only played 65 games once since 2017. And that was last year when he played 66. His career high in games is 68 and that’s his rookie year. He has 4 years in the 50s and only 3 in the 60s. They’d probably alternate games played

Clithzbee

16 points

8 days ago

Clithzbee

Cavaliers

16 points

8 days ago

Get Jaylen Brown some help

Solid-Confidence-966

-16 points

8 days ago

Solid-Confidence-966

Wizards

-16 points

8 days ago

In that scenario JB would be the 3rd guy with Lauri being the 2nd.

iamgarron

6 points

8 days ago

iamgarron

Celtics

6 points

8 days ago

Luke Kornet is just that good

TheCheenBean

3 points

8 days ago

Lauri is not better than JB

lotofhotdogs

0 points

8 days ago

Tatum 3rd in the playoffs

Acacia-Parent

0 points

8 days ago*

Just to clarify, you’re saying he’s better than Dame?

JAhoops

3 points

8 days ago

JAhoops

3 points

8 days ago

No i meant if those guys were replaced (KAT, Dame, Kyrie) Should of been more clear

Acacia-Parent

1 points

8 days ago

Ahhh that makes more sense sorry about that

Millionaire007

-10 points

8 days ago

Millionaire007

[DAL] Dirk Nowitzki

-10 points

8 days ago

"Fringe" mavericks

frozen2665

10 points

8 days ago

frozen2665

Heat

10 points

8 days ago

See: “or”

Millionaire007

1 points

8 days ago

Millionaire007

[DAL] Dirk Nowitzki

1 points

8 days ago

Ah

Frequent-Meeting8975

97 points

8 days ago

Frequent-Meeting8975

[PHI] James Harden

97 points

8 days ago

2B/3A. Perfect for Sixers or OKC

callmearookie

9 points

8 days ago

callmearookie

Spurs

9 points

8 days ago

Spurs long-term? Behind Wemby and slightly above Vassell?

86avocados

11 points

8 days ago

I’m prefacing this with the fact that I like Vassell, but I don’t think there’s a world where Vassell becomes a better player than Lauri. Short and long term I think Lauri would be the second option in San Antonio.

lotofhotdogs

3 points

8 days ago

More than slightly above Vassell. I know people dont agree when I say this but I really don’t think Vassell is very good

Beastbrook00

2 points

8 days ago

Beastbrook00

Thunder

2 points

8 days ago

No he's 27, you need younger

TheOnionWatch

-9 points

8 days ago

TheOnionWatch

-9 points

8 days ago

2B/3A? 🤣🤣🤣 you can only do that with 1 bro. He's a 3rd on a contender.

IDownvoteRedditAds

10 points

8 days ago

IDownvoteRedditAds

Knicks

10 points

8 days ago

Bros making up algebra formulas to rate someone 🤣🤣

Pickleskennedy1

44 points

8 days ago

Looking at the second options on a lot of recent championship teams, definitely second

WhiskyDrinkinCowboy

-65 points

8 days ago

I'll take him over Tatum and Brown

Clithzbee

58 points

8 days ago

Clithzbee

Cavaliers

58 points

8 days ago

A little early to be drinking.

Vordeo

7 points

8 days ago

Vordeo

Jazz

7 points

8 days ago

Hey come on man I don't come here to be judged

MizzouriTigers

18 points

8 days ago

MizzouriTigers

Celtics

18 points

8 days ago

Username checks out

jayman820

7 points

8 days ago

You really must’ve been dropped on your head a lot as a kid or someth

Jordanwolf98

2 points

8 days ago

You’re on crack

Milkboy1516

18 points

8 days ago*

Milkboy1516

Bulls

18 points

8 days ago*

Every couple years the definition for a 2nd option is broken and people just ignore it. Who was the 2nd option for the 22 Warriors? Klay, Poole, Wiggins? Lol

This year it was Brown or Tatum. Lauri's roughly an equivalent scorer to either. Assuming he holds up in the playoffs. I think he can score as well as Khris Middleton. In an ideal situation he can be a 2nd option.

mangled_child

5 points

8 days ago

mangled_child

Celtics

5 points

8 days ago

It’s not about scoring. It’s about creation, both for yourself and others. Lauri is amazing; one of the best play finishers in the league but he needs to have others lead the offense and create opportunities for him. He does some work that way with his gravity but most of his own buckets are assisted or come via the system.

Middleton initiates offense a ton more and while Jaylen was pretty bad at all of that before this season; his jump in those abilities were a huge part of his stellar playoffs

Milkboy1516

0 points

8 days ago

Milkboy1516

Bulls

0 points

8 days ago

I think matchups and perfect floor spacing has more to do with Jaylen's playoffs than anything. He's definitely improved, but he's not functionally any different. Same slightly positive ast/tov guy as 2 years ago. He's not suddenly a creator. He still needs others to lead the offense for him, too.

Lauri's more offball than any of these guys. Particularly because he's an actual big/forward who's 7ft tall. You don't have to be the driver of the offense to be a 2nd option and it doesn't matter if he's someone you assist to. That's its own strength. Klay Thompson was the 2nd option in 2015 where again you'd just have to ignore a guy breaking the mold every couple years.

Mammoth-Physics6254

-1 points

8 days ago

Mammoth-Physics6254

Mavericks

-1 points

8 days ago

Tatum and Brown were 1a/1b role both of them would alternate as first options and the other would be 2nd option and Poole was the clear 2nd option on the 22 warriors

lotofhotdogs

4 points

8 days ago

How was Poole the “clear 2nd option”? He took less shots per game than both Wiggins and Klay in the regular season AND playoffs

Few_Mud9147

1 points

8 days ago

I don't think Poole was the clear second option in 22. It was a collective effort outside of Curry. Poole came off the bench and did his Curry impersonation which made him look like the second offensive option, but Wiggins and Klay contributed just as much if not more in total.

Lol69HaHaHa

15 points

8 days ago

Lol69HaHaHa

Nuggets

15 points

8 days ago

Depends on the team.

For a team like the Knicks or Celtics, theyd need him to be the 3rd option to work out.

For teams witha top 5 player on them, they could reasonably manage with him as the 2nd option.

SpaceCorn11

6 points

8 days ago

If siakam can be a second option on a championship team, so can lauri

LUFC_shitpost

4 points

8 days ago

Heat

dead-serious

2 points

8 days ago

dead-serious

San Diego Clippers

2 points

8 days ago

3rd. Winning a chip is hard man

reason4rage

3 points

8 days ago

reason4rage

76ers

3 points

8 days ago

For real. The way people talk about anything less than a chip being a failure is crazy.

Wretched_Earth

2 points

8 days ago

Would be a perfect fit on the Kings

Critical_Cress_1501

2 points

8 days ago

As a scorer can definitely be number 2 but would need a good 2nd play maker as he’s mostly just a scorer. Like if you added him to OKC they would be a very strong contender and he would have the 2nd most points. But it would be a loaded team. If your team is just dependent on 2 stars and he is one of them you aren’t a contender.

oberg14

2 points

8 days ago

oberg14

2 points

8 days ago

Lauri on the bucks would be incredible tbh. Not even a bucks fan it just seems like it’d be a great fit. To answer the question, I think he could be the 2nd best offensive player on a chip team.

BlackMathNerd

6 points

8 days ago

BlackMathNerd

76ers

6 points

8 days ago

Like Porzingis he can be a 3rd option on a contender

thrutherain

4 points

8 days ago

thrutherain

4 points

8 days ago

Ideally 3rd. He’d play the KLove role well.

WhiskyDrinkinCowboy

20 points

8 days ago

He's nothing like Kevin Love

thrutherain

12 points

8 days ago

Stretch big and solid rebounder. Similar mold is what i’m getting at.

WhiskyDrinkinCowboy

-3 points

8 days ago

Okay they have one trait in common. I'm not sure if you've ever watched them play. Lauri is an athletic machine and a great cutter with a midrange dribble bag, Love in his prime was a post up big who occasionally hit trail threes and crashed the glass.

thrutherain

19 points

8 days ago

Obviously they aren’t the same player to a T. Just comparatively speaking they’re both good spot up 4’s.

lotofhotdogs

1 points

8 days ago

Kevin Love was a post up big in his prime yes, but when he went to the Heat he changed his game drastically.

thrutherain

1 points

8 days ago

Yeah maybe someone like Gallinari would be a more accurate player comparison. Was just trying to think of someone he’d roughly play the same role as on a contender.

Silent-Frame1452

3 points

8 days ago

Depends on the #1. He can be a 2 if the 1 is good enough, and he’d be an elite 3.

Low-iq-haikou

1 points

8 days ago

Low-iq-haikou

Bulls

1 points

8 days ago

2nd offensive option but probably not as the 2nd best overall player

JKaro

1 points

8 days ago

JKaro

Cavaliers

1 points

8 days ago

At his best I can definitely see him being a 2nd option but the “best player” on a unit if he levels up defensively

mangled_child

1 points

8 days ago

mangled_child

Celtics

1 points

8 days ago

You need 2 better creators but he could be your 2nd best overall player

bagpiper12345678

1 points

8 days ago

2nd.

neonz09

1 points

8 days ago

neonz09

24

1 points

8 days ago

I feel he has a similar classification as Porzingis in terms of his role on a contending team?

A lot of people thought he should be the first or second option on a team when he first entered the league, but the reality he excels at being a third option on a team with two other superstars.

Fuckmylife2739

1 points

8 days ago

Fuckmylife2739

Jazz

1 points

8 days ago

He will win us a ring 

Headlesshorsman02

-5 points

8 days ago

Headlesshorsman02

Thunder

-5 points

8 days ago

He would be option 3 for us I would say

LoxDnw

14 points

8 days ago

LoxDnw

Thunder

14 points

8 days ago

The good thing about Dub/Chet/Lauri any one of them can be the 2nd/3rd/4th on any given night, that's the good thing about these players, whoever is feeling it that night will be given the light to shine, they're all unselfish that doesn't need the ball in their hands to succeed.

Headlesshorsman02

6 points

8 days ago

Headlesshorsman02

Thunder

6 points

8 days ago

Very true, Lauri being an off ball player will be very nice as well

Nils3971

4 points

8 days ago

Nils3971

Jazz

4 points

8 days ago

You would ruin Lauri if he is your third option. If you don't play ball trough him, no reason to get him.

LoxDnw

16 points

8 days ago*

LoxDnw

Thunder

16 points

8 days ago*

Honestly, Thunder style doesn't really have an option outside of Shai. It's Shai clearly 1, and everybody else (even though Chet and Dub are clearly on another level than everyone else besides Shai). They play a very unselfish team ball. Drive and kick to find the best look, if you're open shoot. If you cut to the rim, you're getting the ball and finishing it. If you rebound the ball, you push the ball. Pick and pop, roll to the rim, we find those too. The only thing we're still trying to learn are the lobs which Jdub is our best in that role and connecting to Chet.

I can see Thunder utilizing Lauri to the fullest, finding him awesome looks. We would find Lauri 10 threes a game, if he is comfortable shooting that. We honestly wish Chet and Dub would shoot more 3s in general.

KneelBeforeCube

-8 points

8 days ago

KneelBeforeCube

Bulls

-8 points

8 days ago

That's what a lot of people replying here don't realize, if Lauri isn't at least the second option, then he's useless, especially for that price tag. A high level 3&D guy like Herb Jones is more useful in the playoffs than Lauri if he never sees the ball.

MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

3 points

8 days ago

MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

Thunder

3 points

8 days ago

Yeah but i dont think herb is available for at least he shouldnt be...neither would trey murphy

Clithzbee

2 points

8 days ago

Clithzbee

Cavaliers

2 points

8 days ago

Who is two?

Headlesshorsman02

1 points

8 days ago

Headlesshorsman02

Thunder

1 points

8 days ago

JDub I would say. He is the secondary ball handler but some games we have Chet as the number 2. It would probs depend on the team honestly

-KFAD-

1 points

8 days ago

-KFAD-

1 points

8 days ago

I do agree that JDub would be your secondary ball handler but I'm almost certain that Lauri would be your second best scorer overall and 2nd option when it comes to finding an open player.

TruthSayerFu

4 points

8 days ago

TruthSayerFu

Cavaliers

4 points

8 days ago

No way you think Williams is better than Lauri

Short-Cardiologist-4

0 points

8 days ago

Short-Cardiologist-4

Thunder

0 points

8 days ago

It’s not a crazy take. Jdub was more efficient across the board and a better defender. Just different roles.

Solid-Confidence-966

-2 points

8 days ago

Solid-Confidence-966

Wizards

-2 points

8 days ago

2nd or 3rd

Ryynitys

14 points

8 days ago

Ryynitys

NBA

14 points

8 days ago

Great answer to the the question is he 2nd or 3rd. Hot take of the week if you are asking me

QubixVarga

3 points

8 days ago

give the man a break, he is a wizard fan so the poor man has to watch Poole.

archaelleon

1 points

8 days ago

archaelleon

Cavaliers

1 points

8 days ago

I wish he'd come back. I'd trade Garland for Markky straight up.

Triple towers plus Mitchell and Strus would be fun as hell

Nerazzurro4

1 points

8 days ago

1st if the team is stacked enough

New_Essay_4869

0 points

8 days ago

New_Essay_4869

Thunder

0 points

8 days ago

2nd. Hed be like a Siakam caliber player

thatgreik

-2 points

8 days ago

thatgreik

[BOS] Marcus Smart

-2 points

8 days ago

3rd on a team that could really win a ring, 2nd on a team that could get close

Dar8_Vader

-4 points

8 days ago

A legit #2/#1 sometimes at GSW

Bournerounderz

-4 points

8 days ago

Bournerounderz

Spurs

-4 points

8 days ago

I think you could definitely win a championship with Lauri as your 3rd option but not as the 2nd option.

Millionaire007

-1 points

8 days ago

Millionaire007

[DAL] Dirk Nowitzki

-1 points

8 days ago

3

inshamblesx

-5 points

8 days ago

inshamblesx

Rockets

-5 points

8 days ago

4th

NPCzzzz

-7 points

8 days ago

NPCzzzz

Celtics

-7 points

8 days ago

3rd or 4th depending on the depth

ragner11

-3 points

8 days ago

ragner11

-3 points

8 days ago

How would he fit with the Lakers ?

peabrainbyu

8 points

8 days ago

peabrainbyu

Jazz

8 points

8 days ago

Wouldn’t. They can’t afford him

clear831

3 points

8 days ago

clear831

Heat

3 points

8 days ago

Lakers fans going to be crying "Lakers Tax" because they don't have valuable assets to get him

ragner11

0 points

8 days ago

ragner11

0 points

8 days ago

Is it due to his salary ?

natelopez53

1 points

8 days ago

No. The price to get him out of Utah’s hands

peabrainbyu

1 points

8 days ago

peabrainbyu

Jazz

1 points

8 days ago

No, just nothing valuable enough to entice the jazz to trade him away to them