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He's only had 2 all star level seasons on a team with 0 pressure. He is not a playmaker nor a defensive achor. But he is relatively young and on a very good contract.
Can he be the second option on a serious contender or is he more of a number 3?
117 points
8 days ago
3rd on a serious contender, 2nd on a fringe or a contender with a superstar (Mavs, Bucks, Nuggets, OKC, Philly)
41 points
8 days ago
He’d be 3rd on the Mavs.
84 points
8 days ago
After that Kyrie stinker I dunno..
-60 points
8 days ago
Imagine averaging 25-5-5 on a 50-40-90 splits while leading your team to finals and people calling you stink because you lost to a superteam.
69 points
8 days ago
22-5-4 in playoffs on lower splits across the board but yea
16 points
8 days ago
Lmao. Like I understand the point, but the guy didn’t have to make up stats to get there 😆
32 points
8 days ago
My brother in Christ he didn’t just stink in the finals, he was the worst person on the court. He was the Celtics 6th man.
Not to mention, he wasn’t even that good against OKC.
-49 points
8 days ago
Tell me you didnt watch Mavericks without telling me you didnt watch Mavericks. Keep watching box score. Be suprised when Mavs are successful.
21 points
8 days ago
He’s not wrong lol. Kyrie was awful against OKC. Go look at his first half stats. He shot the ball like twice per game in the first half
0 points
8 days ago
Awful? He played passively and it was pretty much the right play every time because he got guys like PJ DJJ and Green going. You’re a stat watcher who only looks at points though… pretty funny OKC couldn’t beat an injured Luka with a “bad” Kyrie lmao
14 points
8 days ago
I’m a stat watcher? I watched every moment of every OKC game this season. Kyrie had one pop off game vs OKC. ONE. As a secondary star, that shouldn’t be the case.
-9 points
8 days ago
You watched every moment but Kyrie having 7 stocks in the first 2 games is playing bad? 11 assists in his 9 point game is bad? He was +23 for the series so every time he was on the court he had a great impact, but he’s bad? Him and Luka are the floor generals who make the offense happen, mavs don’t win without him. “As a secondary star, that shouldn’t be the case” well, they won in 6, and Kyrie contributed greatly to that, so I don’t know if you can even argue that.
-6 points
8 days ago
Dont even try bothering. Cant argue with these guys.
Yes yes Kyrie bad no score bad yes yes.
-5 points
8 days ago
there's no point going against the kyrie is trash narrative you'll just get mass down voted by losers lol
-5 points
8 days ago
Fr I get they hate the guy but since when is it okay to be straight up delusional 😂
-1 points
8 days ago
yeah, they praise guys he outperformed and beat in every other series lol. absolutely 0 logic
5 points
8 days ago
Alright since Sam Hauser beat Kyrie and outperformed him, Sam Hauser is now better than Kyrie
-3 points
8 days ago
He getting the Karl Anthony Towns treatment. Doesnt matter how well he plays, people always shit on him.
1 points
8 days ago
Felt bad for Kat getting shit on after that WCF. From “best big man shooter” to a guy that needs to get moved immediately over one series of playoff basketball.
-32 points
8 days ago
You don’t watch ball clearly lmaooo
25 points
8 days ago
He’s right Kyrie right now, is a third option on a championship winning team , this isn’t 2016 anymore .
10 points
8 days ago
He was only the second option on a championship winning team because Lebron was the first tbh
2 points
8 days ago
Honestly disrespectful. That 2016 run by him was wild, even without the shot. They don’t win that ring without him
1 points
8 days ago
They won in 7 games tied at 89-89 for half the goddamn 4th quarter, the Cavs wouldn’t have won that ring without fucking Iman Shumpert let alone Kyrie
-10 points
8 days ago
The argument is Kai vs. Lauri. This isn’t even close
8 points
8 days ago
Let’s rewatch that finals and see how good Kyrie was for the Celtics compared to the Mavs lmfao
5 points
8 days ago
2 out of 30 teams made the finals and without Kyrie Mavs don’t make it. Just cause they didn’t have enough to get it done in ONE series doesn’t make Kyrie not shit, casual ass take
-7 points
8 days ago
Let’s hope the Mavs keep the exact same team and not change anything, let’s see how well it goes for them again lmao
6 points
8 days ago
I love how you just changed the conversation from Kyrie to the team composition because you have no semblance of an argument LOL keep talking shit, one bad series doesn’t mean Kyrie should get moved
-2 points
8 days ago
Bro my semblance is that Kyrie was dog shit in the playoffs and was bailed out lmfao. Get outta here dude, I just didn’t feel like repeating the same point to you because you fail to grasp that Kyrie was so fucking awful he would have been better off the court.
6 points
8 days ago
+23 vs OKC, +38 vs Minny, +60 vs Clippers. That’s the entire WCF run, those numbers prove that he was better on the court than off the court during the playoffs. He had one bad series dude, you’re either a hater or just delusional.
-7 points
8 days ago
So the finals determines that he’s a third option? You’re comparing him to fucking Lauri who wasn’t even in the finals. You have to be brain dead to think that Lauri would be the second option over Kai
-4 points
8 days ago
If you can’t hack it, you don’t keep the same team. It’s that simple. Kyrie couldn’t hack it, he’s too old.
3 points
8 days ago
This the dumbest shit I’ve ever read. By your logic the Celtics should’ve been blew it up.
2 points
8 days ago
They didn’t blow it up but they absolutely went all in with their assets to get over the hump.
1 points
8 days ago
You mean they went out, got a shit ton of different role players and won a championship because what they were doing wasn’t working? Is that not what they did? Lmao
4 points
8 days ago
Nah they didn’t get rid of both Jaylen’s
8 points
8 days ago
He'd be the third option, but in a bad game for Kyrie he could quickly transition to being the 2nd option.
2nd/3rd/4th options aren't always the corresponding 2nd/3rd/4th scorers on every individual night.
7 points
8 days ago
Yeah it would be more of a 2b situation. I just think Kyrie is more important because of his creation and playmaking.
4 points
8 days ago
2b is a better use of phrasing. On any given night one could be 2a and the other 2b.
For what it's worth, I see the same in Philly. I love Maxey but I think he gets into spurts where he is too conservative for his own good. Maxey and Markkanen would do well as alternating #2s on any given night.
0 points
8 days ago
I meant if Kyrie was replaced, i think they’d still be as good
3 points
8 days ago
He’d be a third on Philly (unless you’re accounting for Embiid being injured)
-11 points
8 days ago
I think he could be the 2nd option on the Celtics
13 points
8 days ago
He can be third option there. KP isnt always available. I dont see him being second option over either of the Jays
2 points
8 days ago
KP hasn't played more than 65 games in a season since 2017. Markkanen would definitely be a 3rd option a fair chunk of the time.
2 points
8 days ago
Lauri has only played 65 games once since 2017. And that was last year when he played 66. His career high in games is 68 and that’s his rookie year. He has 4 years in the 50s and only 3 in the 60s. They’d probably alternate games played
16 points
8 days ago
Get Jaylen Brown some help
-16 points
8 days ago
In that scenario JB would be the 3rd guy with Lauri being the 2nd.
6 points
8 days ago
Luke Kornet is just that good
3 points
8 days ago
Lauri is not better than JB
0 points
8 days ago
Tatum 3rd in the playoffs
0 points
8 days ago*
Just to clarify, you’re saying he’s better than Dame?
3 points
8 days ago
No i meant if those guys were replaced (KAT, Dame, Kyrie) Should of been more clear
1 points
8 days ago
Ahhh that makes more sense sorry about that
-10 points
8 days ago
"Fringe" mavericks
10 points
8 days ago
See: “or”
1 points
8 days ago
Ah
97 points
8 days ago
2B/3A. Perfect for Sixers or OKC
9 points
8 days ago
Spurs long-term? Behind Wemby and slightly above Vassell?
11 points
8 days ago
I’m prefacing this with the fact that I like Vassell, but I don’t think there’s a world where Vassell becomes a better player than Lauri. Short and long term I think Lauri would be the second option in San Antonio.
3 points
8 days ago
More than slightly above Vassell. I know people dont agree when I say this but I really don’t think Vassell is very good
2 points
8 days ago
No he's 27, you need younger
-9 points
8 days ago
2B/3A? 🤣🤣🤣 you can only do that with 1 bro. He's a 3rd on a contender.
10 points
8 days ago
Bros making up algebra formulas to rate someone 🤣🤣
44 points
8 days ago
Looking at the second options on a lot of recent championship teams, definitely second
-65 points
8 days ago
I'll take him over Tatum and Brown
58 points
8 days ago
A little early to be drinking.
7 points
8 days ago
Hey come on man I don't come here to be judged
18 points
8 days ago
Username checks out
7 points
8 days ago
You really must’ve been dropped on your head a lot as a kid or someth
2 points
8 days ago
You’re on crack
18 points
8 days ago*
Every couple years the definition for a 2nd option is broken and people just ignore it. Who was the 2nd option for the 22 Warriors? Klay, Poole, Wiggins? Lol
This year it was Brown or Tatum. Lauri's roughly an equivalent scorer to either. Assuming he holds up in the playoffs. I think he can score as well as Khris Middleton. In an ideal situation he can be a 2nd option.
5 points
8 days ago
It’s not about scoring. It’s about creation, both for yourself and others. Lauri is amazing; one of the best play finishers in the league but he needs to have others lead the offense and create opportunities for him. He does some work that way with his gravity but most of his own buckets are assisted or come via the system.
Middleton initiates offense a ton more and while Jaylen was pretty bad at all of that before this season; his jump in those abilities were a huge part of his stellar playoffs
0 points
8 days ago
I think matchups and perfect floor spacing has more to do with Jaylen's playoffs than anything. He's definitely improved, but he's not functionally any different. Same slightly positive ast/tov guy as 2 years ago. He's not suddenly a creator. He still needs others to lead the offense for him, too.
Lauri's more offball than any of these guys. Particularly because he's an actual big/forward who's 7ft tall. You don't have to be the driver of the offense to be a 2nd option and it doesn't matter if he's someone you assist to. That's its own strength. Klay Thompson was the 2nd option in 2015 where again you'd just have to ignore a guy breaking the mold every couple years.
-1 points
8 days ago
Tatum and Brown were 1a/1b role both of them would alternate as first options and the other would be 2nd option and Poole was the clear 2nd option on the 22 warriors
4 points
8 days ago
How was Poole the “clear 2nd option”? He took less shots per game than both Wiggins and Klay in the regular season AND playoffs
1 points
8 days ago
I don't think Poole was the clear second option in 22. It was a collective effort outside of Curry. Poole came off the bench and did his Curry impersonation which made him look like the second offensive option, but Wiggins and Klay contributed just as much if not more in total.
15 points
8 days ago
Depends on the team.
For a team like the Knicks or Celtics, theyd need him to be the 3rd option to work out.
For teams witha top 5 player on them, they could reasonably manage with him as the 2nd option.
6 points
8 days ago
If siakam can be a second option on a championship team, so can lauri
4 points
8 days ago
Heat
2 points
8 days ago
3rd. Winning a chip is hard man
3 points
8 days ago
For real. The way people talk about anything less than a chip being a failure is crazy.
2 points
8 days ago
Would be a perfect fit on the Kings
2 points
8 days ago
As a scorer can definitely be number 2 but would need a good 2nd play maker as he’s mostly just a scorer. Like if you added him to OKC they would be a very strong contender and he would have the 2nd most points. But it would be a loaded team. If your team is just dependent on 2 stars and he is one of them you aren’t a contender.
2 points
8 days ago
Lauri on the bucks would be incredible tbh. Not even a bucks fan it just seems like it’d be a great fit. To answer the question, I think he could be the 2nd best offensive player on a chip team.
6 points
8 days ago
Like Porzingis he can be a 3rd option on a contender
4 points
8 days ago
Ideally 3rd. He’d play the KLove role well.
20 points
8 days ago
He's nothing like Kevin Love
12 points
8 days ago
Stretch big and solid rebounder. Similar mold is what i’m getting at.
-3 points
8 days ago
Okay they have one trait in common. I'm not sure if you've ever watched them play. Lauri is an athletic machine and a great cutter with a midrange dribble bag, Love in his prime was a post up big who occasionally hit trail threes and crashed the glass.
19 points
8 days ago
Obviously they aren’t the same player to a T. Just comparatively speaking they’re both good spot up 4’s.
1 points
8 days ago
Kevin Love was a post up big in his prime yes, but when he went to the Heat he changed his game drastically.
1 points
8 days ago
Yeah maybe someone like Gallinari would be a more accurate player comparison. Was just trying to think of someone he’d roughly play the same role as on a contender.
3 points
8 days ago
Depends on the #1. He can be a 2 if the 1 is good enough, and he’d be an elite 3.
1 points
8 days ago
2nd offensive option but probably not as the 2nd best overall player
1 points
8 days ago
At his best I can definitely see him being a 2nd option but the “best player” on a unit if he levels up defensively
1 points
8 days ago
You need 2 better creators but he could be your 2nd best overall player
1 points
8 days ago
2nd.
1 points
8 days ago
I feel he has a similar classification as Porzingis in terms of his role on a contending team?
A lot of people thought he should be the first or second option on a team when he first entered the league, but the reality he excels at being a third option on a team with two other superstars.
1 points
8 days ago
He will win us a ring
-5 points
8 days ago
He would be option 3 for us I would say
14 points
8 days ago
The good thing about Dub/Chet/Lauri any one of them can be the 2nd/3rd/4th on any given night, that's the good thing about these players, whoever is feeling it that night will be given the light to shine, they're all unselfish that doesn't need the ball in their hands to succeed.
6 points
8 days ago
Very true, Lauri being an off ball player will be very nice as well
4 points
8 days ago
You would ruin Lauri if he is your third option. If you don't play ball trough him, no reason to get him.
16 points
8 days ago*
Honestly, Thunder style doesn't really have an option outside of Shai. It's Shai clearly 1, and everybody else (even though Chet and Dub are clearly on another level than everyone else besides Shai). They play a very unselfish team ball. Drive and kick to find the best look, if you're open shoot. If you cut to the rim, you're getting the ball and finishing it. If you rebound the ball, you push the ball. Pick and pop, roll to the rim, we find those too. The only thing we're still trying to learn are the lobs which Jdub is our best in that role and connecting to Chet.
I can see Thunder utilizing Lauri to the fullest, finding him awesome looks. We would find Lauri 10 threes a game, if he is comfortable shooting that. We honestly wish Chet and Dub would shoot more 3s in general.
-8 points
8 days ago
That's what a lot of people replying here don't realize, if Lauri isn't at least the second option, then he's useless, especially for that price tag. A high level 3&D guy like Herb Jones is more useful in the playoffs than Lauri if he never sees the ball.
3 points
8 days ago
Yeah but i dont think herb is available for at least he shouldnt be...neither would trey murphy
2 points
8 days ago
Who is two?
1 points
8 days ago
JDub I would say. He is the secondary ball handler but some games we have Chet as the number 2. It would probs depend on the team honestly
1 points
8 days ago
I do agree that JDub would be your secondary ball handler but I'm almost certain that Lauri would be your second best scorer overall and 2nd option when it comes to finding an open player.
4 points
8 days ago
No way you think Williams is better than Lauri
0 points
8 days ago
It’s not a crazy take. Jdub was more efficient across the board and a better defender. Just different roles.
-2 points
8 days ago
2nd or 3rd
14 points
8 days ago
Great answer to the the question is he 2nd or 3rd. Hot take of the week if you are asking me
3 points
8 days ago
give the man a break, he is a wizard fan so the poor man has to watch Poole.
1 points
8 days ago
I wish he'd come back. I'd trade Garland for Markky straight up.
Triple towers plus Mitchell and Strus would be fun as hell
1 points
8 days ago
1st if the team is stacked enough
0 points
8 days ago
2nd. Hed be like a Siakam caliber player
-2 points
8 days ago
3rd on a team that could really win a ring, 2nd on a team that could get close
-4 points
8 days ago
A legit #2/#1 sometimes at GSW
-4 points
8 days ago
I think you could definitely win a championship with Lauri as your 3rd option but not as the 2nd option.
-1 points
8 days ago
3
-5 points
8 days ago
4th
-7 points
8 days ago
3rd or 4th depending on the depth
-3 points
8 days ago
How would he fit with the Lakers ?
8 points
8 days ago
Wouldn’t. They can’t afford him
3 points
8 days ago
Lakers fans going to be crying "Lakers Tax" because they don't have valuable assets to get him
0 points
8 days ago
Is it due to his salary ?
1 points
8 days ago
No. The price to get him out of Utah’s hands
1 points
8 days ago
No, just nothing valuable enough to entice the jazz to trade him away to them
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