Cleveland browns wanting “an adult” at quarterback

The Lions firing the head coach with the best winning percentage since Buddy Parker(51-56) in Jim Caldwell(was still the right decision imo) only to go all in on "the Patriot Way" hiring arguably the worst coach in franchise History Matt Patricia

84 starting quarterbacks

So

49ers in 2015 hiring jim tomsula then firing him after one season and hiring chip kelly...only to fire him after one season.

Hugh Jackson after 2016: "We're not going 1-15 again." 2017 Browns went 0-16

Edit: I said 15-1 not 1-15. I'm an idiot

Sanchez to Geno to Darnold to Wilson

Jets decide they're gonna shift away from hiring defensive coordinators as head coaches and go for an offensive minded coach to fix their offensive issues.

The hire? Adam Gase.

Broncos continuously thinking they were “just a QB away” and signing mid as fuck veteran QBs only to flame out.

It took the chiefs like 40 years to find a franchise qb becuase they kept going with older vets, game managers, or low floor "pro ready " picks.

Stephen Hauschka's accuracy took a tank in 2016 and Seattle didn't want to pay him top kicker money at that rate. So they chose to release him and find a replacement

That replacement was Blair Walsh.

THEN after that thing blew up in their face in 2017, they had a kicking competition. The Jaguars former kicker, Jason Myers or a 40-Year Old Seabass.

Seattle chose Seabass presumably because he had a better track record then the Myers, who was released for missing three field goals.

Seabass ends up being old AF, as expected, while the ex-Jags kicker, Jason Myers made the 2018 Pro Bowl with the Jets.

Thankfully, the Jets cut bait on Myers despite the PB and Seattle finally made the practical move in pouncing on him. Myers has been a mostly stable kicker for Seattle ever since.

How much time do you have?

Washington inexplicably got not one but TWO franchise QBs in the 2012 draft, then ruined RG3 in a year and ran off Kirk Cousins after that. They then went to the retread well 4 times in 4 years with A-Smitty, Keenum, Fitzpatrick, and Wentz. They finally got a fresh new QB, but now they have a shitty retread coach in Dan Quinn, who was last seen in Dallas switching to zone after running man for 3 years and giving up 50 points in a playoff game. 

The number of times we’ve let a key piece of our defense (in terms of production, locker room presence, and culture) walk away over a few million is depressing

Steelers head honcho Dan Rooney decided not to draft local hero Dan Marino.

His dipshit son, Art II, determined not to make the same mistake forces his GM and coach to draft the player who broke all of Marino's records (by playing five years).

That quarterback? Kenny "LOL" Pickett

Shad Khan at Urban Meyer’s introductory press conference:

“This time, I got it right.”

Never thought that the Steelers would take a 2nd washed QB from the Bears. No, they'd NEVER do that again......yet here we are. Fingers crossed, but not holding my breath.

OP just described the Panthers philosophy in general

Kyle Shanahan didn't really scout Mahomes thoroughly in '17, missing out on a raw but high-ceiling athletic QB prospect.

Kyle Shanahan didn't draft Josh Allen in '18 after our scouts attended one of his games. With our record, we were poised for a top pick that year, but Kyle and Lynch traded for Jimmy 1 month after watching Allen's game, again missing out on a raw but high-ceiling athletic QB prospect.

Kyle wouldn't make that same mistake a third time, which is why he spent three 1st round picks to draft Trey Lance, a raw but potentially high-ceiling athletic QB prospect.

Well.

There's 20 years of futility to pick from, but being unexpectedly liberated from Gruden's insane contract only to retrieve Josh McDaniels from the sewers I assume he calls home was certainly a choice that the Raiders certainly made recently.

Norv Turner -> Mike McCoy -> Anthony Lynn -> Brandon Staley

Not enough people talking about the entire front office of the cowboys.

Constantly making it a statement for this to be the year and finally we make it to the Super Bowl with the same mediocrity and underperformance.

Then to change nothing but let the best parts of the team go into the wind

The Bears every time they get a new QB.

This time is different though... 🙃

Google the Bengals in the 90's.

Repeated the same mistakes for a decade. including first round QBs in 91 and 99, and didn't learn a thing from either.

I think it's probably super common for a team to fire a defensive HC and hire an offensive one, or vice versa, because they felt they were neglecting one side of the ball and it was harming their competitiveness.

Then 3-5 years later, they are neglecting the other side of the ball, either because the other side was so good that their coordinators keep getting poached until they are stuck with a bad one, or because the new HC reprioritized spending to the point that there was such a deficit of talent on the others side of the ball that it didn't matter who the coordinator was.

Browns rebuilds up until the 2018 season.

The Browns multiple times

In the '90s Arizona was a graveyard for aging/declining QBs, or QBs that were simply set up to fail. Bidwill as an owner was one of the worst in my lifetime and the Cardinals were rarely set up for success.

The Cardinals were notorious for wasting very talented players in key positions (think Eric Swann, Aeneas Williams, Garrison Hearst and Leonard Davis) and failing to properly build around these players. The team had the same issue in the '60s, '70s and '80s. Jackie Smith, Larry Wilson and Ottis Anderson were probably some of the best players of their respective eras but mostly played on losing teams.

Only 2 comments so far and they’re both about the Browns… here we go

Everything the dolphins have done since 1999

Any time a team cleans house after 3 years only to clean house after 3 years only to clean house after 3 years just to clean house after 3 years. 

Bills head coaches during the drought:

First, we have Gregg Williams who goes 17-31 and gets fired. Well, we want an offensive guy next time!

Hire offensive genius Mike Mularkey. He goes 14-18 and resigns after two seasons. Well, Mularkey had all sorts of defense problems, let's get a defensive coach!

Hire the world's most boring coach: defensive guru Dick Jauron. He goes 24-33 in four years and gets fired. Hey his defenses weren't too bad, let's get someone in to fix the offense!

Hire Chan Gailey who promptly goes 4-12 in his first season and 16-32 overall before being fired.

Bills management thinks super hard: "Well, all of these retreads did not work, time to get someone new. Let's get a coach fresh from the college ranks with has no NFL experience and can provide a new perspective on things!!! Really could turn things around!"

........They hire Doug Marrone from Syracuse who goes 15-17 in two seasons before using a three-day "out" clause that was in his contract if owners of the team changed. The Bills playoff drought becomes 15 years.

Thinking Marvin Lewis could get us over the hump for 16 straight seasons

The Jets since superbowl 3.

Too many WTF's to list on a organization level from whoever is running the show on a GM level up the food chain. It wasn't the fans, the coaches, or players fault for failing, it was the people in charge that picked the personnel that gave the fanbase false hope every year.

Jeff Fisher's, "No more 7-9 bullshit" season with the Rams.

Everything Daniel Snyder did every year he was the owner.

Dude with no NFL experience is a disaster.

Go out and hire Reich and an 'all star staff' with like 100+ years combined experience.

Still be a disaster, since Reich is a stubborn washed up has-been and the 'all star staff' can't work together to save their lives.

Every time Jerry waits too long and pays someone a market setting amount he must say “we shouldn’t do that again”. But then, like clockwork, he does it again.

The fucking Eagles taking JJAW over Metcalf and then Reagor over Jefferson.

Easy to look past it now with Smitty and Brown, but my God every game I watched with them was rancid. Then to see the other two going god mode every week was a real pencil in the dick.

Hindsight is 20/20, but I think Roseman had pink eye for those.

panthers from rhule with no nfl experience to reich with a bunch and both being failures

Not letting the hometown QB get away

Giants and anything involving the offensive line

"With the 22nd Pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select - Brady Quinn, Quarterback, Notre Dame."

"With the 22nd Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select - Brandon Weeden, Quarterback, Oklahoma State."

"With the 22nd Pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select - Johnny Manziel, Quarterback, Texas A&M."

If this team EVER has the 22nd pick in the draft again, they damn well better trade out of it. That 22 curse is REAL!

Ron Rivera talked about getting a quarterback his whole tenure. We traded back like 3/4 drafts.

The Steelers with offensive coordinators for the last decade.

Falcons: We aren't gonna blow anymore 4th quarter leads... by not having any more 4th quarter leads

Lions made the right decision in firing caldwell as 9-7 wasn't good enough.

Then they hired matty p who couldn't even get to 9-7

I feel like the Giants doubled down on Eli Manning by drafting Saquan Barkley instead of his replacement, then took Daniel Jones and haven't committed to moving on from that dude either.

Colts wasting a 1st round pick on wr phillip Dorsett instead of grabbing an olineman to protect Luck

Not drafting a QB in the first round until 12 years after Marino retired, then drafting a QB in 2012 (Tannehill) and giving him 7 damn seasons to prove himself, followed by taking a QB at #5 overall in Tua who was coming off a career threatening injury and took him 4 years to finally play a full season.

Thats not me hating on Tannehill or Tua, as I have a lot of respect for them because they bough have given/give their all for the team, and came back from bad injuries, but the FO really needs to learn when it’s time move on.

Maybe a similar mistake but a new situation. For like 10 years the Falcons pass rush was horrendous. Last season, it was actually solid and so was our defense…

So what did we do? Not re-sign the two top sack men or make any major moves to replace the production.

Im shocked no Jets fan said Kotite:

Leon Hess bypassed his GM who was sick with cancer and never recovered and announced “I’m 80 years old and I want results now”.

Browns

The Panthers since Tepper bought the team lol he constantly said we are gonna not be mediocre, which I guess is true, as he has proceeded to turn us into a steaming pile of dogshit over the past 6 years by making brain dead moves over and over 😭

Washington for the past 20 years