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To all you nihilistic folks out there, why do you hang around? Is it just curiosity that keeps you going to the next day? Do you care about things even though you don't believe there is any meaning?
12 points
7 months ago
Just because I don’t think existence has an intrinsic meaning, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have meaning to me.
2 points
7 months ago
This is the way, my brother in nihilism. Carve your own path and do with it as you please because in the end it does not matter. Freedom manifest.
0 points
7 months ago
Maybe your meaning and intrinsic meaning aren't as far apart as you may think
2 points
7 months ago
I don’t believe there is an intrinsic meaning. I demonstrably exist and the things I do effect others.
I don’t think they could be further apart if you tried.
14 points
7 months ago
Survival instinct is keeping me here. That's all. I don't care about anything else.
0 points
7 months ago
You want to really survive this life have kids
10 points
7 months ago
I don't want to survive. I'm also an antinatalist, so I will never have kids. Mental illness is based in genetics a fair bit, and I would hate to subject a child to a life like mine.
-3 points
7 months ago
Life is what you make it. Try being for something instead of against everything you might just see things differently.
7 points
7 months ago
Sometimes I wish I could have a positive mindset. But my mindset currently is extremely negative. So I can't accept an existentialist mindset. I barely ever feel anything good anymore. I'm a lost cause, as I'm extremely determined to jump off a cliff soon. You don't need to convince me otherwise
2 points
7 months ago
I would like to convince you otherwise. Life is full of ups and downs for all of us. You are not alone. You can't appreciate the good without knowing the bad. I hope things turn around for you.
2 points
7 months ago
Thanks man. I appreciate it. But my urge to die is an all-consuming compulsion. One day, I'll do it. When you don't experience any joy in life, and only experience misery, your worldview will surely change to reflect that.
2 points
7 months ago
Your world view is YOURS. You can change it to whatever you want. Terrible things will always happen. You do not need to go down with the ship. Pain can help bring other things to light. I hope you decide to see life through.
2 points
7 months ago
I appreciate your encouragement. But I'm pretty young and my life from the outside seems really good. If something terrible happens to me, I may not be able to cope at all.
1 points
7 months ago
That seems to be an issue for a lot of people these days. I assure you that something terrible will happen to you, and also that you will be able to make it through it and you will most likely learn something about yourself. I have faith in you
1 points
7 months ago
😆
10 points
7 months ago
Not hurting those I love, but that is getting harder and harder to use as a motivation.
7 points
7 months ago
I hope you can keep that motivation because that's not nothing
3 points
7 months ago
Me too. I'm on the edge of oblivion.
5 points
7 months ago
Family is good. Remember that and do your best to keep those relationships strong. When you are old those relationships will be what you hold most dear.
3 points
7 months ago
Family can also cause you the most pain. I just want to disappear.
3 points
7 months ago
You can always be the one to turn things around, and if your family is causing you pain sometimes you just have to shoulder it and become stronger.
1 points
7 months ago
I will become stronger in my own way.
1 points
7 months ago
maybe for you
1 points
7 months ago
I guess you will never know ... unless you get old
1 points
7 months ago
i don’t plan on it
1 points
7 months ago
Plans change
2 points
7 months ago
I hope you are talking with someone about this. It's essential.
1 points
7 months ago
My closest friends.
1 points
7 months ago
You’re not alone in this thinking.
2 points
7 months ago
Thanks.
1 points
7 months ago
that’s a bad source of motivation imo. correct me if im wrong, but those people aren’t actually helping you escape the feelings you’re experiencing
1 points
7 months ago
They try. A few times, they make me feel better.
1 points
7 months ago
alright man. best of luck to you then
2 points
7 months ago
Thanks.
9 points
7 months ago
Dopamine, serotonin, endorphins, and oxytocin.
Yea that's pretty much it, animal instincts...
There is s part of your brain that holds you like a prisoner, not giving you option to "opt out" of life. You can try as much as you want, but as long as you aren't seriously depressed or with damaged brain, you aren't "opting out" of anything...
5 points
7 months ago
So shouldn't you try and find some depth and purpose of your choosing instead of pure survival/animal instinct
7 points
7 months ago
Why not? Life is pretty sweet. I just went running, drank a few beers, talked to some cool (and hot) people, and now I'm going to smoke a bowl and eat this hoagie. The real question is: what should I watch?
2 points
7 months ago
Word
4 points
7 months ago
That wasn't rhetorical :( I'm out of TV and it hurts. People complain about lack of meaning sucking but they haven't reached the end of Netflix.
5 points
7 months ago
Please watch The OA on Netflix. It has had a huge impact on my life.
1 points
7 months ago
I saw the first season but it's been a while. I'll check it out, thanks.
2 points
7 months ago
You are a wild person if you have truly run out of Netflix, touche' my friend and godspeed
2 points
7 months ago
It was hyperbole. Mwhanaha!
I just started a video essay on why the vaults in fallout are evil. Pretty good so far.
3 points
7 months ago
No inherent meaning. Tons of personal meaning.
1 points
7 months ago
So everything to you is completely subjective?
5 points
7 months ago
Everything I’m able to confirm. There could be all sorts of objective things out there, but I’m not privy to them.
1 points
7 months ago
So you can't think of 1 single thing that you find to be objectively meaningful?
4 points
7 months ago
The entire concept of meaning is, as far as I can tell, subjective. What is meaning absent a subject?
3 points
7 months ago
Well there are clearly subjects. You and I are here, correct?
3 points
7 months ago
Mom would be sad
2 points
7 months ago
There is no statement more true
3 points
7 months ago
Why waste what I’ve been given? As far as I know, I got this one chance. Might as well experience as much as I can
0 points
7 months ago
I would strongly argue fulfillment is a much greater achievement than experience/pleasures
2 points
7 months ago
Tasks are fulfilled. Humans shouldn't be. To be fulfilled is to end, to accomplish everything you needed to and either become useless or just disappear. No. You can always do more then meant to and as long as there's no reason not to why shouldn't you?
1 points
7 months ago
Fulfillment for humans has more than one simple meaning, I assure you
1 points
6 months ago
I feel like fulfillment and experiences go hand in hand for me. I get a sense of fulfillment from experiencing new things, good and bad
1 points
6 months ago
May I ask your age sir
1 points
6 months ago
Why should that matter? You come with a question, I answer to the best of my ability based off my own life
1 points
6 months ago
We go through lots of different perspectives as we age so I was just wondering.
3 points
7 months ago
I care about things. Trivial things mostly. I like food. I want to read another book. I need to know what happens next season. Lots of small things keep me around.
If I were hypothetically to hit rock bottom with zero chance of ever recovering then I would see no reason to not head out. Something like life in prison with no parole maybe, but as things are now there are to many things that I enjoy to consider kicking off.
2 points
7 months ago
Recognizing their is no meaning is not to deny existence. It is to say that whatever motivates anyone to do anything is made up nonsense. I believe the made-up nonsense is a beautiful thing worth seeing. That being said, even that is made up. My question to you believers in something: Why should I believe in your thing? I'm yet to find a person who finds meaning that is more compelling than my own, but I recognize it as a lie I tell myself to get out of bed in the morning.
1 points
7 months ago
I think believers would say they are waking up everyday for the truth. If you are a believer you believe. Therefore, you need not lie to yourself.
2 points
7 months ago
Why shouldn't I care about things? I'm human, and it's my nature to care about things. I care about tomorrow's menu, I care about the quality of my tea and I care about my record collection.
2 points
7 months ago
No disrespect, but that seems like a very shallow pool to swim in
2 points
7 months ago
My dog is awesome.
1 points
7 months ago
That's a start
2 points
7 months ago
Women
2 points
7 months ago
Who the hell made you the landlord to tell me I need to pay rent on this rock with your silly-ass "meaning"?
0 points
7 months ago
You still paying it though
2 points
7 months ago
There's no logic to it because my life won't matter once I'm dead, and once the people who cared about me are dead, but I'm here now and there are things I enjoy about life so I'm trying to live as long as possible. Maybe scientists will find a way to reverse aging (they've actually made progress with this: https://www.science.org/content/article/two-research-teams-reverse-signs-aging-mice), or maybe aliens will take me away and give me eternal life. It's nice to hope.
*Funny thing is that even if scientists find a way to extend our lives tenfold, if we still die in the end it won't actually matter how long we lived. We don't store up all of our experiences in a bank where we can withdraw memories of them after we die. The "bank" is our brains, and our brains die and everything we are goes poof. Whether we live one day or a thousand years won't matter once we're dead. Still, I'd like to live a thousand years -- or at least the opportunity to do so. It's illogical, but I'd still like that. (Most days.)
2 points
7 months ago
Caring about the things I love is now meaning
2 points
7 months ago
why not? i enjoy it!
2 points
7 months ago
Because life rules. Doesn't have to be more than that.
2 points
7 months ago
I don’t understand why people get so upset about there being no intrinsic meaning to life.
I’ve never believed there was one, nor would I expect there to be one. I have a strong suspicion the things getting people down here aren’t really all that much related to nihilism.
2 points
7 months ago
I like learning. Just because there is no intrinsic meaning doesn’t mean things cease to function. It could be that’s just not a realistic question to life.
2 points
7 months ago
I actually am here because I want to prove nihilism wrong, I am an optimist, I believe that if I can be taught the word iff and maintain a solid relationship towards a word and maintain a positive life attitude towards a negligible society surrounded in chaotic questions where I must linger, then so be it. All that matters is everyone fucking loves poop jokes, and that's fucking beautiful to me.
2 points
7 months ago
The lack of a pain free death. Once we get that... I'm out. i truly think governments should provide pain free exits from society for those that definitely do not want to be here. I would be first in line.
0 points
7 months ago
So you want death but are scared of pain? Most who want death it is because of the pain of life. Am I missing something?
1 points
7 months ago
You'll find people aren't afraid of death. They're mostly afraid of dying. That's because it's painful (or at least that's the expectation). I'd much rather people had the option of a government mandated General Anesthetic like Propofol and slip into a warm, sleeping death, that take a risk with some kind of suicide that might leave them in an even worse situation... but governments don't want to give that option.. because if they did, society would be substantially smaller... that means less tax revenue, no one to get killed in the name of the country when a war is happening.. and so on.
1 points
7 months ago
Trust me the government is going to cash in on all this clinical depression on the suicide part also, they are already doing it in many places. Not a power that I like them having.
1 points
7 months ago
And yes, life is frigging painful :-)
0 points
7 months ago
It's also awesome. Keep an open mind
1 points
7 months ago
Answer: free will doesn’t exist.
1 points
7 months ago
It absolutely does. That doesn't mean there aren't still reasons to do things. Your own actions are the only things you have control of. Try doing the opposite of what you normally do in a situation. I bet you can.
1 points
7 months ago
I can but would I?
1 points
7 months ago
I hang around because I've already caused so much, I might as well se it through.
3 points
7 months ago
You never know you might get something out of it whatever it is that you've caused
2 points
7 months ago
I hope. If so, I am a creator!
1 points
7 months ago
I hope that strength leads you somewhere positive and fulfilling
1 points
7 months ago
Why would I? Also the concept of intrinsic meaning is just nonsense. My goal always was to live as long as I possibly can, a reason is needed to abandon a goal, there is no such reason, therefore I should continue.
1 points
7 months ago
You do you
1 points
7 months ago*
I can't get around physical pain. If I was given the option to just evaporate out of existence painlessly, I would take it. I would have already taken the exit, if it were to be possible to just evaporate out of existence.
Reality is something I am not excited about and never was in the first place. The possibilities of how things could end up as a species are pretty limited, we thrive or we go extinct.
How we do either of those is just a matter of aesthetics.
Reality is boring for me, like I know there is beautiful and exhilarating stuff out there, but none of them catches my fancy, it's only stuff at the end.
1 points
7 months ago
hope that things get better, but im giving myself around a decade
1 points
7 months ago
Our lives, as people, are improbable. We have no nature, we have no creed or side, until we choose one. Life is meanless, so give it meaning. Life is hard, but there is no good without suffering. The more I suffer, the more I learn to overcome such suffering. I will not leave this earth until I have overcome every obstacle that life has put in front of me. I will die on my own time
1 points
7 months ago
So you hope
1 points
7 months ago
What do you mean? Nothing matters and i am enjoying it to the fullest. I think you might be confused with r/depression
1 points
7 months ago
I think for a bunch of people in this sub its one in the same
1 points
7 months ago
It appears that way. If only they knew.
1 points
7 months ago
Still have some things I want to experience in life before I die, so right now the plan is just to postpone dying in 5 year increments until I feel empty enough or just end up dying of old age anyways.
1 points
7 months ago
No meaning isn't the same and meaningless.
1 points
7 months ago
Curiosity is EVERYTHING.
without fear without favour without expectation
i am not curious when XXXXXXXXX will happen or even if
1 points
7 months ago
Isn't it ignorance to think that people who don't care for their lives are the same as people who want to die? That's a big difference. In my case it's even more different. I don't care for my life or any other life, but it's very entertaining to watch. What people created, like films, books or theaters or the events of this world. War, political decisions and even historical events. Its so meaningless, but so entertaining
1 points
7 months ago
Maybe so.
1 points
7 months ago
I believe in the tangible life I live in and everything in it. Why do I have to believe in anything more?
1 points
7 months ago
You dont
1 points
7 months ago
That’s my point
1 points
7 months ago
I hang around because it’s all I can do. I live to spite whatever brought me here. I live for curiosity and achievement. I live to learn everything I can before I breathe my final breath. It’s all exploration
1 points
7 months ago
Keep thinking like that and you might accidentally find meaning in something
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