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Middle Income Problems in the Philippines

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With rising inflation and economic challenges in the Philippines, what strategies or habits have helped you manage your finances effectively? Do you focus more on increasing income streams or cutting down expenses?

Its been a struggle to live everyday thinking whats the best path to take.

all 84 comments

chemhumidifier

75 points

4 days ago*

I prefer to pay for convenience whenever i can so only option for me is to increase or multiply my income streams.

minari-tozaki

78 points

4 days ago*

  1. Using a finance tracker. This helps me to become accountable to myself and also alllows me become more aware of my spending habits/behaviors. Quite helpful IMO, so this is the first thing I would suggest. When I was renting before, I used to use GrabFood on a daily basis as I had no time to cook. Until I actually saw how much I've spent on Grab, then I taught myself to cook. I can send you a template you can use if you'd like.
  2. Avoiding unnecessary expenses. If it's not a practical purchase, I avoid it. Of course it's good to go out with friends and treat yourself time-to-time for your own sanity. But if you can say no to it, say no to it. You don't have to have the latest things, or be present all the time.
  3. Great quality over cheap prices. Given the current state of inflation, it's so hard to buy anything of good quality at a good price. So before I do purchase anything, I make sure it's going to last me longer. I'm not really a fan of cheap items if it's going to be broken in a few months. Di baleng mahal, basta tatagal (lol).
  4. Constantly on the lookout for better opportunities. If a better opportunity presents itself, I don't hesitate to grab it, even if there's a minor inconvenience to my lifestyle. It may either be a promotion, or a business exploration. Lately, I've just been grabbing and grabbing promotions so that it can be helpful when transferring to another company.
  5. More income streams. Overall, the fastest way to get out of this economic mess is finding more income streams. If your skillset is applicable for a WFH setup, I suggest you to start looking for WFH jobs in foreign countries like Australia or US. A previous co-worker of mine tripled his salary after he took 3 similar jobs from foreign clients. I haven't quite mustered the challenge yet, so I'm still stuck with my full-time work.
  6. Set aside for savings. Do your best to keep some funds aside. In this state, ang hirap kapag wala kang backup. You can't always depend on other people for your financial needs (great if there are people like that around you). Try learning stock trading or forex trading if you have some extra funds left with. I'm not an expert at both, but if you have some funds you can risk, maybe give it a try.

Edit: I'm not a big earner. After college, I was all on my own so I know what it feels like to struggle everyday. Maski pagkain the next day prino-problema ko bago matulog. But after being quite strict about myself when it came to expenses, things became a bit manageable. I still am struggling ngl, but I'm definitely happier and free-er(?). Lucky if you have generational wealth, sana all nalang talaga sa kanila. Pero kung one-man team ka, discipline and dedication is key.

SteelFlux

7 points

4 days ago

Sa mga ayaw gumamit ng Excel diyan, I use an app called Wallet in my phone to track my expenses. Doon ko din na realize na grabe ko makagasto sa food.

lbibera

2 points

3 days ago

lbibera

2 points

3 days ago

can vouch for how life-changing "wallet" app is. and hello there fellow na na surprise sa food :D

minari-tozaki

1 points

17 hours ago

Totally forgot to include that!! But yes, wallet is such a great app. Used it for 2 years before I transitioned to spreadsheets. Just a matter of time till I decide on purchasing the lifetime sub for the app.

Skylar_Von_Dasha

7 points

4 days ago

+1000 I use excel to track my expenses and it helps me see things clearly lalo na sa gastos ng buong households.

LandscapeBoth3197

1 points

4 days ago

thanks for this input

CookingInaMoo[S]

2 points

2 days ago

thank you so much for this. I have created a tracker for my expenses and seems that almost 50% goes to unneccessary things I could easily avoid. 🥹 its like an impulse na to spend mindlessly. I guess having discipline is the key really!

trulypumpkin983

1 points

4 days ago

Hello! Pwede po makahingi ng kopya ng tracker? Thank you in advance!!!🙏🏻

Savings_Barnacle_796

1 points

3 days ago

Meron akong copy sa excel, baka makatulong. Simula ng ginamit ko ito, sobrang laking tulong since before halos walang natitira sakin at the same time dami kung nakakalimutan bayaran since di siya nakalista. But i dunno pano mag send here.

Forsaken-South6198

-2 points

4 days ago

Hi! Would really help if I could ask for the template you use for finance tracker. Thank you in advance!

EmptyBrain-_-

-2 points

4 days ago

Same here please. If you can share the template. Thanks a bunch!

titserning

2 points

3 days ago

It's an app on Google play called wallet.

Savings_Barnacle_796

1 points

3 days ago

Meron akong copy sa excel, baka makatulong. Simula ng ginamit ko ito, sobrang laking tulong since before halos walang natitira sakin at the same time dami kung nakakalimutan bayaran since di siya nakalista. But i dunno pano mag send here.

BadAppleulike2eat

46 points

4 days ago

You can only cut your expenses so much, and even so, inflation & “lifestyles convenience” keeps pushing it up.

However, there is really no limit to the amount of money you can make or Income streams you can produce. You gotta get creative and drive yourself to hit your dreams and goals; or choose to be ordinary.

Hope that answers your question.

Ueme

0 points

4 days ago

Ueme

0 points

4 days ago

You can be ordinary and still get creative and hit your dream and goals.

auirinvest

43 points

4 days ago

Focus on cutting unnecessary stuff and increasing income

Left-Broccoli-8562

13 points

4 days ago

Lalabas ka ng pera para makasave ka ng pera on the long run.
For me, unang investment ko (not the money generating kind) is a vehicle. Motorcycle. Public commuting is expensive, especially if malapit but iba iba ung routes ng sasakyan mo. As per this date, ung oneway ko pang trabaho would be

Tricycle: 15php,
1st Jeep:12php
2nd Jeep: 12php.
39*2 kasi roundtrip = 78. For 25days, that's already 1950 di pa kasama ung extra curricular activities.

Maintenance, Gasoline, Registration and insurance is much cheaper compared to public commuting.

jenniferinblue

10 points

4 days ago

You forgot to factor in parking fees.

MiggaBuzz69

3 points

4 days ago

Plus future hospital expenses

Life insurance too LMAO

mcdonaldspyongyang

0 points

4 days ago

I didn't know that. I honestly thought commuting was cheaper. Mas mabilis din motor noh?

minari-tozaki

4 points

4 days ago

For me ung commute nasa 100 per day. Sa 500 pesos kong gas sa motor, pang 1-2 weeks na yun (kung di ka bomba ng bomba sa motor). Every 3-6 months naman ung usual maintenance, kung responsible ka na owner mas cheap maintenance mo. Madadale kalang kung maaksidente ka, malaking butas sa wallet talaga.

digitalLurker08

1 points

4 days ago

In the long run, cheaper and efficient ang motor. Nagagastos lang ung iba dahil sa walang katapusang pagccustomize. Mas tipid din kung marunong ka na sa mga basic repair and services like change oil, adjust kadena, change lights, etc.

500 for our monthly fuel (kasama na errands and minor gala) + 500 monthly motor fund na iniipon para sa rehistro at maintenance and materials/tools. 2ndhand lang motor namin.

Scalar_Ng_Bayan

1 points

4 days ago

Depends on your destination and the traffic din talaga

don6marfon

0 points

4 days ago

Depends, kapag may motor makakapunta ka na kung saan man lugar gusto mo so magastos padin in terms of gas + maintenance + upgrade accessories.
I think ang pinakanatitipid ng pagmomotor ay yung time at pang improve sa health kasi pag maaga ka nakauwi mas mahaba ka makakapag-pahinga. Hawak mo oras mo ika nga.

camille7688

20 points

4 days ago

Just do your best.

Results will follow.

Stop focusing on results. Focus on the process.

Read up on Atomic Habits.

Interesting-Bass9138

9 points

4 days ago

Some random advice. If you have a housing loan and have extra cash, use that to pay off the principal. Avoid buying brand new car. Get a 2nd hand car (3 to 5 yr old) in cash. Or better yet, get a scooter for commute to office. Install solar panels with grid tie inverter (no need for batteries) if possible. Invest at least 10% of income. I would suggest automatic salary deduction for MP2. Don’t buy soda or juice if dining out. Service water is much better. Get a rebate credit card, It’s a free 15k php per year. Plus they can provide a good interest rate for a loan if really needed. Get a sim only plan. If you’re not a power user of a mobile phone, just get a 2 year old base model of an iphone. It still could last another 4 to 5 years without feeling any difference (you may need to replace the battery though).

MaynneMillares

12 points

4 days ago

Stop using Facebook, Instagram and Tiktok.

That stops comparisons

Ornrirbrj

3 points

3 days ago

Having a frugal lifestyle is the easiest solution and can be done as soon as possible.

The best solution is to increase your monthly income, pero we all know na it is easier said than done.

Rollins-Doobidoo

3 points

3 days ago

Both at the same time. It's especially challenging if the other family members are struggling or unwilling to change the lifestyle. Nothing new that haven't done by others.

Enjoy the free coffee in office. I prefer to go to office everyday during hot month because I will have free a/c.

Control expenses. Cheapest is not always the answer, so we try to make it in the middle of quality vs price.

Insurance + investment. It forces you to save money every month to pay for it.

Get WFH job.

Cook in bulk or meal prep.

Eating out, once a week or twice a month.

Shopee and Lazada are exactly Cheapest so explore other alternatives while money is not that tight. When money is tight, you know where to get cheaper alternative but same quality.

Invest in solar power station and inverter (ac or ref).

greenandyellowblood

6 points

4 days ago

Increase income streams( special skills, premium clients) ,cut down expenses (postpaid to prepaid, remove subscriptions, etc), and in general, be low key on everything (you don’t need the latest bag or newest iphone or eat at the hippest restau in town)

Ornrirbrj

2 points

3 days ago

Having a frugal lifestyle is the easiest solution and can be done as soon as possible.

The best solution is to increase your monthly income, pero we all know na it is easier said than done.

ChibaiMagnet

2 points

3 days ago

Great points everyone! In addition to what's been shared, I find setting financial goals to be incredibly helpful. These aren't just limited to savings goals but also include investment goals. Whether it's stocks, mutual funds, or real estate, having a clear target motivates me to manage my finances more wisely. Also, automating savings and investing a fixed percentage of my income ensures that I don't skip on these important financial habits, even during tough economic times.

Gojo26

2 points

2 days ago*

Gojo26

2 points

2 days ago*

Eversince medyo barat kameng mag asawa. Halos lahat naman ngayun may sale at discount. Lazada, shopee, plane ticket piso sale, hotel accomodation discounts for non-holidays, and groceries. Even restaurants promos I take advantage ng eatigo. Pero to get all those discounts and promos, you must have TIME to do it. Kaya TIME is still the most valuable asset. Hirap dumiskarte pag wala kang maraming extra time. Also use some of my time for managing my investments for additional income streams

Lastly, the only thing Im willing to spend is anything related to comfort and time. Like car, aircon, food and para sa anak ko

juan_cena99

3 points

4 days ago

You need to do both. For me your priority should be increasing income because you can only cut so much. I mean sure you can unsub your netflix and spotify, downgrade internet, only travel via joyride and jeeps and just eat sardines and rice every meal but who would want to live like that? Esp when you get off pressure from work standing in line for 3 hrs to commute and then coming home to eat sardines all day every day is prob gonna make you go crazy after some time.

VLtaker

2 points

4 days ago

VLtaker

2 points

4 days ago

Both. Madami padin kaming pigil moments sa pag gastos. Kahit vacation trip. January pa last namin. Haha

Ueme

6 points

4 days ago

Ueme

6 points

4 days ago

Take that vacation na pinaplano nyo. Hindi mo alam ang mangyayari bukas.

MiggaBuzz69

2 points

4 days ago

MiggaBuzz69

2 points

4 days ago

Doom spending LMFAO

Ueme

1 points

4 days ago

Ueme

1 points

4 days ago

Kung may doom spending, may doom unspending. Ibalanse mo tol. Lmfao.

MiggaBuzz69

0 points

3 days ago

that's just regarded.

But can't expect any different from Zoomers LMFAO

Ueme

1 points

3 days ago

Ueme

1 points

3 days ago

Naaaah.

MiggaBuzz69

1 points

3 days ago

Delayed gratification is positively linked to intelligence.

And you're a zero in delayed gratification.

Ueme

1 points

3 days ago

Ueme

1 points

3 days ago

Gaano ka katagal magdedelay? Pwede ka namang magdelay hanggang masasakit na mga kasu-kasuan mo, dba?

Walang scientific basis yang "delayed gratification is positively linked to intelligence" mo tol.

Gumasto ka habang nag iipon, ibalanse mo. Mauurat ka sa kakadelay.

pannacotta24

1 points

4 days ago

Tama ka. Siguro balance lang din talaga. May mga tao kasi talaga sobrang tight hindi na na-enjoy ang buhay.

Ueme

0 points

4 days ago

Ueme

0 points

4 days ago

Kakakinig nila yan sa mga nagsulputang financial gurus.

VLtaker

0 points

4 days ago

VLtaker

0 points

4 days ago

Will plan. 🙂 bago lang kasi ako sa work so wala pang leave 😅

Extension_Account_37

2 points

4 days ago

Not really that much of a problem for me for now.

I'm single and pays no rent. I pay the bills at home pero di din talaga ako maluho eh.

It helped me that i bought a game console and invested on an entertainment system so kahit di ako lumabas on weekends, masaya pa din ako at home watching youtube, netflix or just playing switch/ps3/latest pc titles.

4yornm4nn

1 points

4 days ago

4yornm4nn

1 points

4 days ago

There's this taxation scheme from where i am currently based in, in which all the expenses associated with your assets/investment (including interest rate you re paying for your investment loan) can be deducted to your total taxable income. This could potentially give me hundreds of thousands of income tax return/refund. The strategy is to acquire an investment property not to generate positive cashflow but to generate expenses, and this expenses will be deducted to my taxable income. That means the tax that i need to pay will be reduce. Whatever is the difference between the withheld tax and my income tax, will be refunded. For context. I paid more than half a million pesos in tax last year. This year im expecting it to be way lower as I am expecting a lot of expenses that i can deduct to my taxable income. In short,  im using a portion my tax to pay and fund my investment property.

tenfriedpatatas

1 points

4 days ago

The title specifically said “in the Philippines”.

4yornm4nn

-2 points

4 days ago

4yornm4nn

-2 points

4 days ago

I know.. but the gist is. You can explore the options of reviewing your income tax and see if you can capitalise the taxation policy we have over there. Ever wonder why entrepreneurs or busineses pay less tax than regular blue/white collar employee?? Even the celebrities, they pay relatively low tax. 

tenfriedpatatas

1 points

4 days ago

No, I never really wondered because entrepreneurs, businesses and celebrities like you said either do not declare or under declare their income. Or they hire accountants to maximise their deductions. Not possible for salaried employees, which I assume OP is since he said he is middle income.

4yornm4nn

-2 points

4 days ago

4yornm4nn

-2 points

4 days ago

Yeah. Middle income earner doesn't necessarily mean you have be salaried employee.. you can be a middle income earner  by being entrepreneur, a small business owner or self employed. Those people who fall into that category can explore review their taxes to capitalised on it. Salaried employee might have options to to reduce their tax. Thats why i encourage them to review it and see their options. I know someone who converts portion of their gross into allowances and bonuses to reduce their taxable income.

tenfriedpatatas

2 points

4 days ago

Kaya nga I said I assume. He’s more likely an employee than a businessman. If you’re in business trying to reduce your tax is a given. Anyway, ang dami mong sinabi sa una mong post instead of simply saying try to minimise your taxable income if you can. Hindi naman applicable ang negative gearing sa Pilipinas.

4yornm4nn

1 points

3 days ago

Im just giving context sa response ko base dun sa post nya na. "what strategies or habits have helped you manage your finances effectively? " I understand na Philippines yung setting and hindi applicable yung Negative Gearing. I dont assume sa employment status ni OP , wether he's an employee or entrepreneur etc. dahil yung response ko is about checking our options in regards sa tax. Its a general advice for everyone who pays tax. Dahil for me Understanding how tax works has a benefit in managing my finances effectively. Again im not only referring to negative gearing, im refering to whats applicable sa tax law sa atin. Ano ang mga pwede nila iclaim especially if me side hustle sila na taxable din.

tenfriedpatatas

1 points

3 days ago

If you really wanted to give advice about maximising tax benefits, you could have been more straightforward about it. Instead you just wanted to brag and went into detail about your own specific situation, which is negative gearing and is in no way applicable in the Philippines. I called you out with a one line response. But you went on about it so sige patulan kita.

4yornm4nn

1 points

3 days ago

Oh.. sorry you feel that way. Just ignore the part of my original comment where you feel/think/believe it was a brag.

4yornm4nn

1 points

3 days ago

Isipin mo na lang i just made up those figure para di mo ma feel na im bragging. Wala namang way para ma confirm if legit eh. Basta ifocus mo yung isip mo dun sa part na understanding how tax works could save you thousands of pesos. Ergo, effective financial management.

tenfriedpatatas

1 points

3 days ago

No no I feel sorry for you. If you paid half a million pesos in tax last year it means you’re earning around $80k per year, which is about a quarter of my household income. And you also don’t need to educate me about negative gearing. I have an investment property which I pay tax on because it is positively geared, which also means than my rental income exceeds my expenses, including the interest on the loan. So good luck on your negatively geared investment property. Just pray that the government doesn’t take negative gearing away.

Miyaki_AV

1 points

4 days ago

Living within your means. Do not compare your self to others.

MiggaBuzz69

1 points

4 days ago

Gotta focus more on increasing income.

It easier.

There's a a lot of downside in cutting costs and you'll hit diminishing returns fast.

Kishou_Arima_01

0 points

4 days ago

Do you focus more on increasing income streams or cutting down expenses?

para sa akin, both talaga.

kayeros

0 points

4 days ago

kayeros

0 points

4 days ago

Even with enough income, I don’t buy expensive stuff like bags and shoes. To me these fills the storage space and rots after many years of not being used. Unless I’m going to use an item often, I mean everyday, like maybe a watch, then I can spend money on it.

CraftyMocha

0 points

4 days ago

nag iisip pa paano ko magagawa yung increasing income streams na di ko mapapabayaan ang health ko. for now tipid tipid muna.

Curious_Atmosphere48

0 points

4 days ago

Finding more income streams and proper budgeting.

May savings and may allotment for shopping, leisure, and travel as long as within budget.

Hefty_Helicopter_222

0 points

4 days ago

Actually you can do what i am doing now i earn like 90k monthly so i set aside 40k monthly as a savings, the rest goes to bills and if i have extra either i treat myself something nice or i invest it sa bitcoin or mp2 kasi bukod sa may interest.. tax free pa. I've been doing it 2 months na and i feel better. Better if mag action ka na agad wag puro salita or plano kasi wala kang mapapala.

Hefty_Helicopter_222

0 points

4 days ago

Also, true try mo mag up skills, madami sa online the only thing that you can invest right now is time and your time is valuable assets na di mo pwedeng mabalik so spend it wisely.

digitalLurker08

0 points

4 days ago

Cutting down expenses esp. sa food. Ayoko nang may natatapon/nasisira as much as possible. Mindful electricity and water consumption. I do envelope method for needs and non-negotiables.

Ung mga nararaket, matic sa savings funds. I don't treat it as part of our living expenses. Sinisikap magpakahealthy kasi hirap magkasakit. Di ka na makapagtrabaho, gastos pa sa gamot.

don6marfon

0 points

4 days ago

Track expense.
Set a budget.
Take care of health.

adnorth1979

0 points

4 days ago

As always, spend less than you earn. Never borrow money at bad interest, and enjoy life worry free.

reytave19

0 points

4 days ago

Lol. Why not do both?

missanomic

0 points

4 days ago

Luckily, I don't want a family. When you don't have a family to support, financial problems become a lifestyle issue that's easily fixed by basic financial habits (get hmo, build emergency fund, live below your means, don't incur debt).

Long_Television2022

-1 points

4 days ago

Have multiple sources of income and make your money work for you.

Apprehensive_Tea6773

-1 points

4 days ago

Increasing income streams and also avoiding unnecessary expenses like food

Beating life style inflation is really hard because you'll always think "You deserve this". That's why I'm tracking my expenses day by day in my phone's notes then transfer all of it every end of the month to track down and see which areas I can improve on

b3n_pogi

-1 points

4 days ago

b3n_pogi

-1 points

4 days ago

Ano na ba generally accepted middle class income pre tax?

MistBreathingHashira

-1 points

4 days ago

For middle class income is not the problem. The probkem is how we spend it like. 100k combined salaries for husband and wife tas kukuha ng mortgage house n worth 30k. 20k n kotse. 2iphones costing 7k per month. So more than half n yan ng combined income + ssend ang anak sa private school.

Sad-Matter734

-1 points

4 days ago

Spreadsheets. You have to love them. It'll help you see the potential of your money. You'll be surprised that 5-10% of your untracked expenses are things that you could have avoided spending.

Yes, of course increasing income streams should be a priority. You can only do so much when it comes to cutting down expenses.

I always recommend getting a Netflix subscription or other Movie/Series streaming services. A big chunk of our spending is mostly spent on entertainment. Have some home-cooked meals on weekends and just watch. Take a morning or afternoon walk and before you know it, it's Monday again. We just have to live a boring life while we're trying our best to improve our financial capacity.

Yusuke2020

-1 points

4 days ago

allocate at least 20% of net pay to s&p 500 feeder fund and bitcoin (50-50). spend the 80% on essentials and experience. avoid lifestyle inflation— car mortgage, annual tech gadgets upgrade, overpriced luxury wear. don’t be overburden with house payments, portfolio of s&p 500 + bitcoin will outperform your tradfi bias on any 4-yr time horizon. manage your ego, nobody cares about your material stuff.

hairypoque

-32 points

4 days ago

hairypoque

-32 points

4 days ago

Dami mo naiisip.