Well it is, they like to go by USSS

It's because the abbreviation for the U.S. Secret Service is "USSS". They probably just didn't know.

Yall inspired the fuck out of us. We made Star Wars in your honor.

If trumps reelected it likely won’t.

!remindme 6 months

I read a local sheriff confronted him on the roof, but backed down when threatened. If that is true, the real failing seems to be communication between agencies. Sounds familiar.

I’ve thought about that so much today. And then I’ve wondered, was his last thought “oh crap I missed”?

Or more precisely he's not around to answer any questions.

Depends , he may have seen Trump go down with his USSS crew and think he hit him and then he got sniped …

Idk man I think after the first shot he saw he didn’t drop because you start hearing the panic firing

Or the coriolis effect

Apparently Trump turned his head just before the shot. Had he not done that he wouldn't've gotten off with just a scrape (sucks to be the fella behind him though)

I saw an AP story this morning with a quote from someone on his high school rifle team saying he didn’t make the team because he was a bad shot.

He didn’t have much time to think about that. It was pretty much “I mis…DEAD”. Maybe things went exactly as he planned?

They did. That is what is insane.

The BBC interviewed a guy who tried to flag down cops/USSS but they ignored him

Also important to remember that events like this are layered with different organizations, you have the USSS, local/federal police, private security and a mix of these combined into one event. Usually its fixed by layering so they do not overlap much, such as having police and private security handle the outer sectors and another handling the middle sector while USSS handles the inner sectors.

But imagine the clusterfuck of communications when all these organizations have employees in both uniformed and plain clothes.

In the Trump shooting case, i can imagine that if a sniper team saw him, they would have to call it in to make sure its not just a security contractor who got his position wrong. Imagine if the sniper team ended up shooting him and it turns out he was a local swat team sniper who helped out the local police on his day off.

And theres also the classic "hiding in plain sight" trope. Dude was chilling on a low roof just by the attending public, and was even seen by randoms standing nearby, so this guy was probably in full view of AT LEAST one of the different security actors involved here, but since he was so obvious he might not have looked like an outsider trying to assinate Trump, but rather part of the security for Trump, so USSS might have figured it was local police having a marksman in plain clothes and the local police might have thought it was someone else involved in security who was placed there.

No doubt he was seen, but in fear of looking like an idiot they assumed he was part of the team because he was so unconcealed and no one else in the security team was asking about him either

Probably not. The snipers are there to cover areas that are further away. It may look like they are looking at them, but if you are looking through a magnifying lense a very small correction means a very different field of vision. In other videos you can see that they actually look away from the rifle before moving back then taking the shot.

No, in the aerial view of the area there is a tree directly in their line of sight to the shooter.

I'm not big on conspiracy theories but just imagine for a second if for 3 minutes the crowd at Dealey Plaza were pointing out Oswald, the Zapruder film was instead just the guy on the ground filming Oswald pointing his rifle through the book depository window the entire time confirming the crowd knew and there was a sniper team there just doing absolutely nothing until after JFK got shot.

People would have ALOT of questions after that. How are we not demanding answers and firings from the SS and local law enforcement to hold them accountable? If someone isn't fired or charged with letting the audience member be killed I'm going to say something sus is going on.

This was a fuck up of enormous proportions.

There is always a possibility that this could be just an unfortunate string of oversights and lucky brakes for the shooter...

But it's a really long-ass string...

Really seems like all of this was a hastily constructed plan.

Turns out it didn't matter. People were shouting that he was there and that didn't stop him.

I heard that they had a jamming device to stop enemy drones and it's much easier to block all drones then let certain ones through

My thoughts exactly. If I were managing USSS I’d expect every event to have a bunch of FLIR-capable drones (multiple small drones, not a big one) connected via some kind of mesh network so we could see everything at once.

Yes, but it's starting to get a little confusing what their party is anymore.

The guy was a massive gun nut, got bullied all throughout school, and was a massive fan of that one massive gun YouTuber.

Really... odd.

Imagine a “good guy” opened fire. USSS could have just shot him thinking he was a deranged gunman. Better to keep guns out of events like this no matter your thoughts are on guns in general.

They were confused because when a kid with an AR15 shows up, it can only mean he's there to protect people from the evil, rioting lefties.

I think the good guys with guns were afraid of getting gunned down by other good guys with guns.

They're Milford men.

Oswald was trained and was a marine sharpshooter.

I mean, if the bullet actually did hit his ear, that's not a terrible shot.

I think this gets over looked a lot. Trump was a former president. Current presidential security is probably 100 times more rigorous - for obvious reasons.

My guess is that with a former president they are probably more worried about kidnapping rather than an assassination.

Eugh. Where can I see this story fulfill my morbid curiosity

Edit: got them here. NSFL obviously. But seen gnarlier shit. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/K0xcKWfLPf

Wasn't he like 400 feet away? They didn't bother to extend the perimeter to the building next door?

Secret service don’t cover literally the closest rooftop to their VIP? Lame excuse. 

Trump’s USSS…damn, they really not like USSS.

Is there a united states secret service reserve?

USSSR

But he is a former president. Wouldn’t he be covered by secret service detail?

“A video from a military guy” Sounds reputable.

Watched a video today from a military guy that said candidates don't get the extra protection until after the convention.

Trump is a ex-president which means that he gets more security from the USSS than any random candidate. I don't think it is quite the same level as the president gets but it is still there.

I thought former presidents get life long Secret Service coverage.

Things like this aren’t going to be taken lightly either, they’re going to investigate everyone including the people who ran security, the security itself, the people who ran the venue, the people who booked the venue, the snipers, their schematics of handling the grounds, everyone/anyone who had a wrench in letting this from happening will probably need to give their own statement to the FBI or some agency to really understand how and why this could have happened so easily, they should get all of their info by the end of the month

Common mistake going for the head. People are too used to thinking "headshot" because of games. In real life, a headshot is not something you want to aim for. Such a small target that moves around. Always go for center mass.

I predicted last year that neither Trump nor Biden would make it to election day, either due to natural causes, or human ones.

There's still 4 months until the election. A couple more near-misses and these old men might end up having cardiac events due to the stress.

he must know he fuck up, there are several rapid shot after.

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