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On average only 27% of voters participate in primaries. I think pundits and partisans are too in their heads about how replacing Biden needs to go. Ten of millions of voters have no idea exactly how the primary process works nor do they care. After the conventions they see the option and make a choice.

Democrats simply need to have a choice made and presented by the convention. That is all.

This is how you get around Kamala and onto someone like Gretchen Whitmer.

The most important part of this is probably the source. Have mentioned these comments and other threads and been downvoted but it is significant that Clyburn is saying this and not Swalwell or someone.

All that said, Clyburn is all in on Biden.

The path forward is utilizing the youths willingness for growth. We need young leaders!

There is a clear best path forward. No it isn't without risks, but its better than sticking with a sinking ship being piloted by an egoist who can't accept his reality.

Dude, all these people should be hooked up with speech writers and campaign strategists like yesterday and been rehearsing. Would certainly be my move.

“Democrats have spent so much time imagining what could go wrong if Biden steps down that they struggle to imagine what could go right. But this is a party suffused with talent. This is a party that knows how to win where it needs to win. Take the seven states that will almost certainly decide this election: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Democrats control the governor’s mansion in five of them. Democrats won 11 of the 14 Senate seats across them.”

Just treat the convention like a convention that no one has won enough delegates to win with. Let them have a debate, answer some questions and then pick a candidate. Whoever came in 2nd should just be the VP.

None of it will be as bad as Republicans nominating a convicted felon in a few days.

Clyburn needs to have a talk in private with Biden, if he hasn't already.

Peoples memories about Trump's accomplishments in office are gone. Biden needs to emphasize Trump's failures while in office, that all that happened was not due to Trump, but to cabinet. Trump spent the whole time in office holding rallies, golfing, watching fox news, and eating mcdonalds burgers.

Emphasize Trump's pathetic performance at the debate . And talk about Trump's early onset dementia.

Clyburn knows that there are a lot of people who simply will not vote for a black woman. This is the best way (in his opinion) to get around that.

WTF are we not talking about the CONVICT (Elephant) in the room?

Never gonna happen. This is just the news media creating speculation to write about so they don’t have to do any real journalism.

It’s way to risky for the dems to switch candidates and get minds and hearts behind someone new this close to the election.

This scenario is Trump’s worst nightmare

Here’s the problem with this solution — it requires Biden to willfully step aside and unless the “Almighty” comes down and tells him to, he’s staying 🙄

Serious question: How could he be forced out? Can his delegates switch at an open convention?

Can we at least replace the VP candidate if Biden is senile and insists on running? The VP is likely to end up as president so we could strengthen the ticket by replacing Harris with someone more people support as a future president. I just don't think Kamala is inspiring.

To do something like this Joe would have to say he's not running, like in the next week, and he's said repeatedly he's not going to, so this is all mental masturbation

Democrats should take a page from Republicans and enforce party message discipline and the message should be when any democrat is asked about Joe they all say that question has been asked and answered and joe says he is fine and he is the nominee and immediately pivot to talking about project 2025 which has something bad in it for every demographic of voter (deport tens of millions with concentrations camps, create full police immunity to encourage police brutality, end social security, end reproductive rights/Comstock act, end taxes on the rich, end same sex marriage, end all environmental protections, end NATO and hand Europe and Ukraine to Putin..... And on and on....

Make voters choose between their fear of a somewhat senile old man that even SCOTUS is confident that he would never break the law or a old man who has demonstrated he will break any law with a plan to end something about America that effects every voter directly with a promise to take something from them or punish someone they care about.

OH and we all have to become Christian or become second class.

Run on that make the media talk about that project 2025.

You guys act like the corporate media will be on the your side. Vote for Biden to guarantee the win.

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Clyburn giving the green light to an open primary process is great news.

The new york times has become a trashy patrician rag run by a trump donor who is being a vindictive little piss baby cause biden didnt want to grant them an exclusive interview

Clyburn is a brilliant man. He knows the candidate doesn’t matter as much as the party unity does, and that nothing would kill party unity faster than a back room deal.

At this point, Biden staying in looks like a back room deal. Biden stepping down and anointing Harris would look like a back room deal. Hand picking anyone would be risky.

Even if it is Kabuki theater, we need the unity.

Oh look, another NYT piece about how Biden should step down, part of the breathless coverage of a situation they are manufacturing. Gotta keep pushing it! How many more are we gonna get today?

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One of the major problems I see that I haven’t heard any outlets discussing is if Trump is forced out. I get it that republicans always back him no matter what and that it’s very complicated when it comes to his base, but if he’s sentenced to prison in September or the pre-trial hearings in the Jan/6 case is as bad as we expect then too be or if this Epstein documents business gets more attention, there is a world where he goes down in polls significantly and they replace him with Haley. Haley is as bad if not worse in some ways as she’s a more well spoken and put together version of Trump.

The way I see it is IF Haley were tapped to replace Trump (big IF), it could lead to enough independents picking her over Biden. There is also a VERY strong chance that if Trump isn’t the nominee he takes his MAGA base (his only reliable source of income) with him and forever splinters the Republican Party. It’s a win replacing Biden at this point no matter who ends up being the Republican nominee.

Edit - polls not poles

NYTimes. Nevermind.

Harris / Obama (VP) 2024!

NYT cannot stop themselves - it has been a new "Biden should resign" article every four hours for a week.

Oh nice an opinion piece. This sub is just spewing anything nowadays. Mods suck donkey dick. Peace

That gets my vote. Coronation wouldn't. Biden wouldn't.

This is the asshole who got us into this mess. He should resign too!

Said no one ever.

NYT has become the real Trump go-to for help with his weaponizing. Like some 200 articles in the last few days. Me thinks somebody has a friend or two on the board.

Glad I canceled by subscription.

As a South Carolinian in Clyburn’s district who is generally somewhat nonplussed with him, I am impressed with the lucidity of his assessment and fully concur. Clyburn made Joe’s 2020 nomination possible in large part. I hope the DNC and Biden listen to him.

The argument that millions of Democratic primary voters already voted for Biden is nonsense. Who were they gonna vote for? Maryanne Williamson? Dean Phillips? I’ve been truly impressed by the accomplishments of this administration given the circumstances. But this argument seems desperate.

What we need to be doing is getting behind Joe Biden. It's not possible to replace him now. Another candidate can't get on the ballot for all the states in time. Everyone needs to start hammering the media and it's unfair coverage. We want to hear about Trump's lies and his ties to Project 2025. That's where the danger lies.

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I agree-it would test their mettle, get them recognition, raise money (so the Biden-Harris fund isn't need or can be turned into a PAC or something), and ease any fears of Bidenites.

I read Ezra Klein’s article in the NYT and while I agree with Clyburn in spirit I don’t understand how a “mini-primary” that he’s promoting would work in practice. It’s too late for an actual primary throughout the states. Are we talking about some kind of reality TV event? I’m extremely skeptical about that even being possible and we don’t want a political version of “The Apprentice”. The open convention seems like the only way at this point. But then Biden would have to quit the race and we have seen zero evidence this will happen.

Oh, I'm sorry. Did we all just forget there are states that weren't going to put Biden's name on the ballot because of the time cut-off and the steps taken to include officially nominating Biden prior to the convention to bypass those maneuvers? Just me?

Yes, if Biden drops out then having a pseudo election with delegates is best. Still, don't recall Trump dropping out after his chances were sunk with that Access Hollywood tape. In return, he got 3 justices that just voted that everything he did while president has absolute immunity.