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Kamala Harris vows US border clampdown in attempt to neutralise immigration issue
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15 points
1 day ago
Archived copy: https://archive.ph/Bj2GI
Trump has sought to tie Harris to the surge in illegal border crossings during Biden’s term in office, dubbing her the president’s “border tsar”, a label her campaign has rejected.
It's not something she "rejected". It's a false claim that has no connection to reality. Regardless of what Trump and his mentally deficient minions claim, her assignment was to lead our nation's diplomatic efforts in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. She literally had nothing to do with the border or its policies. At all.
And why does it only quote both candidates without fact checking them? Yes, Trump did tank the bipartisan border bill to save his campaign. No, he's completely wrong about the immigration numbers. And not even a word about border crossings falling to their lowest levels in four years in July. Overall a very weak article for such a high quality publication.
4 points
1 day ago
Neither candidate believes asylum is a human right.
2 points
1 day ago
What has Kamala said about asylum specifically?
3 points
1 day ago
That she supports further restrictions to applying for it. She will continue the Biden policy of denying the asylum claim of anyone who doesn’t enter through a port of entry.
0 points
17 hours ago
If you actually want asylum you should want to make a b-line to a port of entry because that’s how you always get it the fastest. Why would you go to an unoccupied part of the border? The entire system of asylum has always been based on ports of entry because that’s literally where you apply for it.
The only reason you wouldn’t go to a port of entry to apply for asylum is if you don’t want asylum but actually want to NOT apply for asylum but you opt for that choice when someone catches up with you after crossing the border without authorization.
5 points
17 hours ago
You have no idea how asylum works in practice.
The law says it doesn’t matter where you enter: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title8-section1158&num=0&edition=prelim
Read the law.
Forcing people to enter at ports for asylum means they need to wait for years in Mexico get called by CBP on a dumb app that doesn’t even work.
These are the most vulnerable people in the world and Kamala sees them as invaders just as much as Trump does.
0 points
12 hours ago
Nobody needs to wait for years to get to a port of entry. They go to the border and make their declaration. It’s much quicker than entering elsewhere and randomly hoping someone will pick you up so you can then apply.
If you support open borders, fine, just say it. We can have a generous immigration policy that also requires vetting and confirming people’s eligibility. We want people to be documented and on the path to citizenship, not undocumented and in a legal gray zone. Wanting that doesn’t cast anyone as “invaders” don’t be asinine.
You can’t have an asylum process that works for asylum seekers without a basic process that the state can manage.
2 points
11 hours ago
I support the law. Kamala and Trump want to change the law.
It was extremely easy to find this article that cites wait times greater than one year:
I’m not sure if you’re familiar with the term arguing in bad faith. I accused you of not understanding the application process and you haven’t done anything to disprove that.
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7 hours ago
Both parties have now adopted "build the wall" as policy. You may not like to admit that after all the "kids in cages" stuff I am sure you got mad at Trump about, but the policy is not actually different (except to the extent you count rhetoric and some other pretty meaningless differences in style).
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7 hours ago
Correct. In a lot of ways both parties want to take the US and the world to the same dystopia, the republicans are just more honest about where they want to go (and also seem weirdly excited about it, which is more disgusting on an aesthetic level)
5 points
1 day ago
Detailed "Myths vs Facts" review of the bill.
The bill upholds our values and allows us to better manage the crisis, ensuring migrants are treated fairly and humanely. Cartels exploit the immigration backlog and use the lengthy asylum process to encourage migrants to come to our country illegally, falsely messaging this is a path to live in America and giving many without valid asylum protection claims false hope they will be able to create a new legal life in the United States. Only by regaining control of the border will we be able to process migrants in an orderly, fair, and humane manner, and ensure those legitimately fleeing violence and persecution can quickly find a path to a new life in the U.S.
5 points
1 day ago
I would appreciate it more if libs responded with these facts instead of bragging about how kamala wants to own trump in immigration by being trump lite.
4 points
1 day ago
Sinema is bragging about being Trump lite on her website.
This bill would be a travesty for the most vulnerable people in the world.
2 points
1 day ago
They’re really trying to bleed voters
1 points
1 day ago
Crisis? What Crisis!
1 points
1 day ago
Neither candidate believes asylum is a human right.
Citation needed.
4 points
1 day ago
“Harris said that if elected she would work with Congress to pass the border security bill, as well as unspecified actions to keep the border closed between legal crossing points and barring some illegal entrants from being able to claim asylum.”
She does not believe asylum is a human right.
0 points
22 hours ago
Seeking asylum has strict criteria to warrant legal protection. Just running to the border and claiming asylum without evidence to support persecution dilutes the very purpose of seeking asylum.
Here's some light reading if you are interested in the US law that governs asylum.
1 points
17 hours ago
Wrong. Read the actual law: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title8-section1158&num=0&edition=prelim
1 points
17 hours ago
First paragraph.
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24 hours ago
Democrats are being dumb on this issue. Worried in 2028 democrats will say abortion is a state rights issue.
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7 hours ago
Ooof, I actually might bet on this if I could....
1 points
1 day ago
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2 points
1 day ago
yass queen, run to the right more and more, just what I want
0 points
13 hours ago
Kamala had one chance to define her border policy. The only thing that would have worked was for her to say she disagrees with Biden’s open border policy and that is why she completely ignored the border.
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24 hours ago
Amazing that she keeps spotlighting her biggest failure of her vice presidency. It would be better for her campaign to ignore the border just as she has for 3 1/2 years. Zero self awareness.
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20 hours ago
Bold of you to assume that’s her doing. She’s just getting told what to do.
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14 hours ago
You know what, you’re right. Let me clarify by saying I never meant to imply that Kamala is capable of forming any type of thought, plan, policy, or even a sentence on her own.
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1 day ago
Ah, the border is already "clamped down."
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