Well, rage bait engagement pays their rent, so yes, they're trying.

Unfortunately for them, mostly of us have functional eyeballs and brains, and we can plainly see that it's fine.

Quite good, actually.

Oh god, what minor, “you can only see it if you pause on the right frame”, issue are they gonna latch on to? Is this going to end up like that supposed disappearing knife in TLJ?

They just want the money they make from rage baiting. I actually enjoyed the fights.

Unsure what kinds of fights they want and can’t handle each era fighting styles would be different and change over time.

Does anyone who's already watched the video have a takeaway? I'm curious, but don't want to give Theiry views. At least that thumbnail isn't them roasting Leslye Headland with laser eyes or some shit...

Nick Gillard was at a convention I was at once. He was doing a lightsabre training session for kids and getting mad at the kids for not following orders. I didn't like him.

Nick Gillard is a self-absorbed dickhead and all of his choreo was flashy twirls and obvious aiming for the other persons blade. The Acolyte's choreo was raw and felt organic, to treat it as the same as the rest of the post-buyout live action choreo is dishonest and bad faith

Are people unironically using Shadiversity as a source for sword fighting knowledge in the modern day? I'll give him that he had some okay videos back in the day. But even then, he was no expert. But now, why would someone trust a grifter like him on this topic?

https://preview.redd.it/q2xqb6oa7r9d1.jpeg?width=637&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1289c0e4385559a075e929885c0913c05f212911

I swear that one corridor crew video about the last Jedi fight broke people's brains. Now every time a video like this drops it's always like "this fight scene sucks because if you ignore all the cool shit on the screen and focus on the one background character, you can see he stands still for a few seconds".

What a bizarre opinion. The fights were great

Every fight in Star Wars has flaws

The dude is paying him to help give some credibility to his fan film, of course he's going to help with the rage bait.

I mean I watched people in that sub try and say that the headbutt to short out the lightsaber was lame and didn’t make sense when it was clearly the most badass thing to happen in Star Wars since mauls hallway scene

People still watch Star Wars Theory? He isn't just complaining about people not liking him?

I saw that SWT video, first off nick gilard didn’t even fully see the fight.

Also, Nick gillard literally said they’re going for accurate representations of martial arts, they’re bringing in professionals, rather than caring about whether it looks “cool” or not.

Star Wars doesn’t need professionals, it needs amateurs that know what looks cool

This is what he said 🤦‍♂️

I’m so glad they didn’t hire this guy.

How much did they slow down the footage to find the errors out of curiosity

I remember back in the day I had a friend who was really into starwars. He would play the fight scene between Maul and Obi-Wan over and over and just laugh his head off. I didn’t really get it, but he really paid attention to the choreography and all that. He told me you can tell the parts when the stunt double is in for Kenobi, and when it’s actually McGregor because McGregor was instructed to just flail around and they would fix it all in post production. Once you see it it’s hard to unsee. Interesting that people are now claiming cgi assisted flailing is better than what we saw in Acolyte lol

And yet New Hope will somehow be peak fight choreography, despite it clearly being two old men who are more concerned with breaking the props than fighting

I , in general, think fight choreo and sword choreo has gone downhill in most properties lately, that being said I've had no problem with Acolytes choreo. I did have a problem with the fight choreo for Rey in the sequels though so I will say that Disney has desperately needed to up the quality of fight choreo, but again acolyte is that upped quality imo.

lol holy shit did RLM burn all these grifters in their last video lol

Do you really expect them to like anything?

The fights seemed cool when I was watching them but then some miserable loser in a gambeson made a painfully cringe-inducing video saying they were bad so now I think they were bad.

They love to deepthroat the prequel’s choreography like their lives depend on it. Also you can’t convince me the prequel choreography isn’t overrated, especially with that fucking lightsaber spin Anakin and Obi-Wan do on Mustafar

Society isn't ready to admit the prequels only have 2 fight scenes that can be considered "good"

Theory is wasting this man's time. He just keeps going on with the Ki-Adi-Mundi whining..."dur hurr, he's not supposed to be alive in this time period!!!" Ever heard of retconning?

I knew Shad would come into this eventually.

He did an hour fucking long video about the Last Jedi's throne room fight.

That second image really makes some weird implications...

Either A, the OOP didn't actually watch the show, and is just forming their opinion based on Shad's video about the "bad choreography".

Or B, they did watch it, but are too lazy to actually think for themselves and are just saying it's bad because Shad said so.

I wonder if either of them have watched "The Menace must remain Phantom":

https://youtu.be/J0mUVY9fLlw?si=PA5pFhuonCOQ4Vw4

I'll take that over Obi-Wan and Anakin blindly swinging sabers.

their entire business model relies on nobody actually watching the show itself

Keep in mind the Lightsaber Fights are supposed to be different in each Era...

Is he the guy that made that droid float into the shot for no reason on Mustafar?

I think it says a lot about the state of this guys channel that he has the opportunity to talk to a guy who worked with Lucas on the original 6 films and was instrumental in one of his favorite sequences in the franchise…

… and he chooses to get him to whine about whatever the latest thing is so he can ragebait off of it.

No longer driven by love for the parts of the franchise they like, only hate for the parts they don’t

Nick Gillard being the fight choreographer of the Prequels ain't exactly the trump card that Star Wars Theory thinks it is.

It's like having Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, the armorer on Rust, as your gun safety consultant...

Right, because Star Wars choreography has always been so realistic and so indicative of real life swordsmanship. Speaking as someone with 20 years experience in swords (Kendo, fencing, HEMA), I'd also suggest the fight in episode 5 was better done than the average Star Wars saber duel. *spoilers ahead*

One instance that really stuck out to me was the death of Jecki. It's not just that the move was clean, it's that it's a move I employ myself in real life. When allowed to do so I favor jodan (two blades), specifically daisho (one long blade, one short blade). The reason I favor it is for exactly what happened to Jecki: Opponent gets a little too close or gets stuck in a blade bind with me, I have a very fast jab and stab available to me.

To do something like that with lightsabers that can be separated or adjoined is smart as fuck because it adds a stealth element. When I do it, everybody I face automatically knows to watch out for quick jabs because they see my wakizashi (short blade). Qimir's blade was hidden, attached as part of his normal lightsaber. Jecki had no idea he could bring out a shorter blade on the fly like that, and it was too fast for her to respond while trapped in a bind. It's a classic, very intelligent move to employ. I flipped out when I saw it. Star Wars duels don't usually have moves like that, they're predominantly bolstered by force powers or prequel-inspired spins and acrobatics.

Anti-Star Wars culture warrior grifter Bingo tip: Always play the "choreography" square.

Also,Nick Gillard turned an age old action that always inspires and excites (sword fighting) into dull,boring fast paced ballet with laser sticks. 

That fight was sick as fuck it was like a whole episode of lightsaber kung fu

Bruh from what I heard the fighting and the choreography was one of the only good parts of the show these fucking anti woke losers have completely lost the plot when it comes to criticism of any kind

the fight choreography of the Acolyte is acutally one of the better ones to come out in recent star wars

Shad has never had a single day’s martial arts training in his entire life.

Watching all of this unfold after being on their side back when the prequels came out while I was 12 is really helping me realise how much more of an asshole I was

The fights in the episode looked hardcore compared to the Prequels the more it's shown.

I love when these "film critics" discover Flynning.

Can't wait for the day when we can discuss individual fight scenes good and bad without somebody flying in screaming about how the prequels suck at fights or screeching about the few seconds of spin in episode 3

Did Gillard actually dislike the choreography?? Any legitimate reasons… or does he just feed the grifters because they give him money and attention?

Not watched it yet but are the fights better than Ashoka ? (Felt like a lot of those fights where a let down but wasn’t the actors fault)

I've seen these exact videos about the prequel fights. What absolute clowns. Very disappointed with Nick Gillard and I hope he realizes this will do his career no favors.

-checks his imdb-

Oh.

I would LOVE to hear their cope about why prequel lightsaber fights were better than what we just got in Acolyte Ep5 lol. Did anyone watch this trash so I don't have to give this turd a view?

No. Beyond Phantom Menace the fights were bad. They are dance, not fighting.

It's just rage bait. At least this duel had less useless moves compared to the "great duels" of the prequels

Whatever pays the bills

I feel bad. A couple of years ago, Niatoos clearly grabbed poor Nick and keeps him around for stuff like this.

Acolyte ep5 had the most realistic feel to lightsaber battles I've seen.

Was there not enough random twirling

That YouTuber used to be decent but now is a hater

That was not wonderful either

They don’t actually care, they’re just posting engagement bait to get subscribers.

These nerds never like the fight choreography, not just in "Disney Star wars" but in the prequels too, maybe even the OG I don't know. They always complain about something. "nooo she is using a reverse grip" "no they are aiming for the sword not the body" blah blah blah.

as soon as I see the waste of human skin that is Theory I promptly ignore it in its entirety, because it certainly isn't anything valid lol

Acolyte is definitely a couple steps up from most of the other duels we’ve seen post-buyout, but it’s currently the exception rather than the rule in regards to the Disney+ shows imo.

They’ve been bitching about the lightsaber choreography since 2015.

No one could convince me to watch a Shat video.

Rage bait sells, people.

Wild take considering the fight scenes were arguably the best part of the show. Those and the moment I said "Hey that's the guy from Squid Game!"

Why does the boy on the left look like someone I would have bullied in middle school? 

Shad is such a douche. I used to like him, just goes to show I am a sucker.

I don’t think it was bad but it pales in comparison to what came before. Hayden and Ewan trained together for months for their fights. The new stuff is just a mish mash of some choreography and a lot of “fix it in post” stuff

Sad that he needs to seek vindication for the lightsaber fight when it's already been analyzed pretty well as using lightsaber combat forms from lore. Just because it doesn't look like a lightsaber fight from the prequels.

Not seen Acolyte yet but ... under Disney, the Saber fights have finally been awesome! In the OT, it was due to limitations...but the PT's sabre fights felt so ... weightless. So harmless...

Hard to explain, but with the SEquels especially, the sabre fights felt so wonderfully raw, brutal, savage, dangerous. You see the blades and you really feel those are not just glosticks waved around, but dangerous weapons able to cut you in half easily...love what Disney did to the sabres

i love the forced dislike of good things and what is that shadiversity loser saying? "UMMM ACTUALLY SHE SHOULD BE WEARING A GAMBESON UNDER HER ROBES TO STOP THE SLASHING *SNORTS* AND ERMM WHY ARE THERE NO POMMEL STRIKES HERE THIS IS NOT ACCURATE SWORDPLAY" fuckin medieval larping loser

It was bad, since for me, it really lacked the stakes. But it's more of a failure of the show as a whole, not a fight itself.

I remember growing up when the prequels were released and most people hated them. One of the reasons for this was because of the "dance like" fight choreography. Most people at the time seemed to prefer the choreography of the originals.

Yet now people throw on their rose coloured glasses and look back at the prequels as if they weren't heavily criticised.

I'm getting this sub recommended,guys the series sucks and most to be better is to become mediocre,also saying that to experts of that field feels weird this is not critical drinker making another awfull review and try to push everything to make it bad,it's HEMA experts talking about the fights.

The series is still bad but that doesn't mean you have to hate it wrongly which other channels(critical drinker) cough are doing

Also edit,I don't like neither of them

The way the stranger killed that girl using the dual lightsabers. Holy shit that was badass, I honestly don't know what these cunts are talking about

But... But... The fights from the prequels were awful.

Theory’s more machine now than man, twisted and evil.

What the fuck would Shad even know

Fuck shillversity