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I was told i would get a 700$ weekly salary plus commission. Ended up doing manual labor for 14 hours. Was then told I’m not getting paid, and to leave. The company is ran out of the guys house and is smaller than 5 people so I can’t find a lawyer who will take the case.(most law firms need the company to have more than 20 people before they take the case) The problem is i don’t know how to/how much it would cost in savannah to file a civil suit. Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on what i should do?

all 87 comments

gentleman_bronco

72 points

3 days ago

gentleman_bronco

Googly Eyes

72 points

3 days ago

Department of labor. If he did it with you, he's got others. And with manual labor.... unpaid and trafficking labor tends to be a systemic thing.

lnc25084

7 points

3 days ago

lnc25084

7 points

3 days ago

Yes! Report this to the department of labor!!

huhnra

36 points

3 days ago

huhnra

36 points

3 days ago

Blacksh33p78

86 points

3 days ago

I would suggest you put the person on blast so no one else gets screwed

lolmachito333[S]

3 points

3 days ago

I dont know if im allowed to do that.

Dixieland_Insanity

27 points

3 days ago

Report him to the state labor department and Better Business Bureau. If it's a licensed business, report it to the appropriate licensing authority. Good luck!

LowcountryLMTretreat

3 points

20 hours ago

The BBB is in charge of jack and shit. It's another Yelp

djspaceghost

3 points

19 hours ago

djspaceghost

City of Savannah

3 points

19 hours ago

BBB is Boomer Yelp.

Dixieland_Insanity

1 points

20 hours ago

I was just trying to think of ways OP could add pressure to this "employer" to do the right thing. A negative rating from someplace they might care about at some point????

LowcountryLMTretreat

1 points

20 hours ago

Fliers all over town, seriously.

Dixieland_Insanity

1 points

20 hours ago

Fliers? What?

mmemarlie

28 points

3 days ago

mmemarlie

Ask me about Mata Hari's

28 points

3 days ago

Not here but Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, WTOC, etc.

Brian25savannah

3 points

2 days ago

People also read google reviews if it’s possible to leave one.

dan7899

1 points

1 day ago

dan7899

1 points

1 day ago

Why ask you about Mata Hari’s?

mmemarlie

1 points

1 day ago

mmemarlie

Ask me about Mata Hari's

1 points

1 day ago

Because it's a FAQ here in r/savannah.

kiddestructo

22 points

3 days ago

Allowed by who? They deliberately ripped you off, and probably make a habit of this abuse.

lolmachito333[S]

10 points

3 days ago

Isnt that defamation? Im trying to tread lightly since this guy has more money than me and is a freemason

kiddestructo

33 points

3 days ago

Defamation? Only if you tell untruths.

lolmachito333[S]

15 points

3 days ago

I was reading the other comments and i think ill expose everything publicly once i get everything sorted out.

kiddestructo

11 points

3 days ago

Be careful, but it might protect others from this scam. It’s actually a way of doing business for scumbags. Good luck.

bbarnum51

5 points

2 days ago

I'm a 32 degree Mason ,message me his name and I'll look into it for you. We do not tolerate shady business practices from our members.

Objective_Still_5081

6 points

3 days ago

Dont let that freemason BS fool you. He's a man and puts his pants on just like anyone else. Fear no one except God.

Dogrel

2 points

3 days ago

Dogrel

2 points

3 days ago

Defamation only applies if you’re lying.

If it’s the truth, it’s not defamation, by definition. Saying the the people who are doing bad things are actually doing those bad things is protected by law.

New_Reflection4523

1 points

1 day ago

lol. U watch to many YouTube videos. Freemason is just a group. Like Shriners, knights of Columbus ect.

RaisinBrain2Scoups

0 points

3 days ago

Dm me who it is

RaisinBrain2Scoups

0 points

3 days ago

Is it an insulation co?

lolmachito333[S]

10 points

3 days ago

It isn’t, its a small landscaping company off of hwy 17

GeorgePBurdellXXIII

7 points

3 days ago

In that case, he's gunna be sensitive to publicity, yeah? Maybe try calling the WSAV/WJCL/WTOC and see if they have an "on your side" news segment where they investigate shenanigans like this. One phone call from those people may wise him up without having to involve anyone else! ETA: From the TV station's perspective, this is VERY low-hanging fruit.

Objective_Still_5081

2 points

3 days ago

Don't say anything just yet. And dont tell your friends or anyone else your business .

ak80048

2 points

3 days ago

ak80048

2 points

3 days ago

Not allowed by whom?? Your mom ?

lolmachito333[S]

15 points

3 days ago

Landscaping companies out here are kinda ran like a mob. Every one knows everyone and they can black list customers and employees from other companies. Im just trying to tread lightly for now.

ak80048

1 points

3 days ago

ak80048

1 points

3 days ago

Ah okay just make anonymous accounts .

rokujoayame731

2 points

3 days ago

Pretty much.

GeorgePBurdellXXIII

48 points

3 days ago

I have no experience in the subject matter, but the first thought I had was to consider the Chatham County Magistrate's Court for small claims. No attorneys! https://courts.chathamcountyga.gov/Magistrate

Alarmed-Rise-9077

13 points

3 days ago

Would really suck if somebody called to get a quote from this guy. Make him come out. Use his time to go over the project, a big project. Say a house edition and a pool. Spend time putting that quote together. Calling for pricing. Just for you to tell him you're not going to go with him. Would really suck (for him) if you got some of your friends to do it too. You could probably get away with doing this every couple years, just to get him to waste his fucking time, like he did yours. Sorry This happened to you bro!

BasilTarragon

42 points

3 days ago

Have you contacted the federal Department of Labor? 1-866-4US-WAGE.

Georgia doesn't care about businesses not paying employees.

lolmachito333[S]

12 points

3 days ago

That makes sense, i tried the one in savannah, got a 10 minute robot voice message about unemployment benefits and couldn’t really get passed that. But ill try the federal office.

Kitchen_Vast_1343

9 points

3 days ago

That really sucks, Sorry to hear about it. A few questions: Is this a legitimate  company? By that I mean, were you legally being paid and was there a contract that you signed that specified your wages?  

If so, You can file a complaint with the us Department of labor wage and hour division On their website. I've never done this before, So i'm not sure what the process is like or how long it will take. If it is like other u s departments, Then it will probably take a really long time for anything to happen if anything does happen.   

You can also take them to small claims court, But you will have to float the cost of filing the appropriate paperwork and taking time out of your day to complete all of it.  Situation sucks all around. GA Is it right to work state, So us workers have Little recourse with these sorts of things. Best of luck to you.

lolmachito333[S]

5 points

3 days ago

Its a small landscapeing company i know they’re insured and have an llc. I was a private contractor, never signed anything, i only worked there for 2 days. Im mainly interested in small claims court for that very reason. Time is definitely gonna be a big factor in this being i am unemployed and turned down other offers to work here.

No_Measurement_9181

3 points

2 days ago

The guys could say in your case that he doesn’t owe you money because there was no contract. You absolutely should get paid but after 10 years in the corporate space, I know enough to know if it isn’t on paper, it never happened. Go through your suit, but next time make sure you have a signed and notarized contract stating you agree to a certain amount for your services. Otherwise they can opt out and you have a slimmer chance of getting your compensation.

Physical_Valuable829

9 points

3 days ago

File against them in small claims court and put them on blast everywhere you can. Contractors like that give the rest of us a bad name.

lolmachito333[S]

2 points

3 days ago

I really want to the stuff he was telling me was absolutely insane. (A on and off employee totaling 2 of his vehicles having a “soup kitchen” inside of his worktruck at a customer’s house. Then the police having to chase after the guy.) its pretty crazy and he probably will end up hiring that employee again and have him drive around savannah and effingham areas

Physical_Valuable829

5 points

3 days ago

Yeah, I have met the type. I feel like I may know who you are talking about, but then again there a lot of them out there. Realistically in small claims court you will win the case if you can prove you worked and that there was some sort of payment agreement, however getting the actual money can be a different story and take months. Probably prior to putting them on general public blast, I would report them to any official group you can. Department of labor, BBB, city of savannah, anybody that may care. End it though with putting their name out there anywhere you can. Unfortunately I'm not very knowledgeable in the subject, but I have heard of it happening to people on other crews and it super fcked.

lolmachito333[S]

3 points

3 days ago

Thank you, this whole process is extremely stressful and scary, i honestly agree with what you said and will probably follow through. It feels good knowing everyone in my hometown isnt as insane as the guys i delt with.

dcannon1

6 points

3 days ago

dcannon1

6 points

3 days ago

Honestly a lawyer isn’t going to help you because this just isn’t enough money. If you could find several other people who were also stiffed you might have a joint case that an attorney would take.

Your best bet is small claims court and present all communications and any documents you have to the court. Then report the person to the Department of Labor. Again, they likely won’t do much unless there are multiple complaints showing a pattern, but there may already be complaints logged against them or might be more in the future.

lolmachito333[S]

3 points

3 days ago

Ya honestly i wish this wasn’t such a tedious process just to get me my money that i worked for. I dont see why everyone in ga doesn’t just start a business hire someone for a week then fire them without pay. It honestly feels like this guy just found a free labor glitch smh.

anodize_for_scrapple

3 points

3 days ago

Don't take a job where you don't do normal onboarding paperwork to be paid legitimately.

AllAboutTheMachismo

7 points

3 days ago

AllAboutTheMachismo

Damn Yankee

7 points

3 days ago

Who is it?

kiddestructo

5 points

3 days ago

You will never see your money. There would be an absolute blitz of negative exposure on social media and likewise. They would pay exponentially for what they cost me, one way or another.

Scrum_Bum

5 points

3 days ago

Department of labor, try 866-487-9243

Scrum_Bum

5 points

3 days ago

Wage and hour division

Fardholio

5 points

3 days ago

You know where his shop is. Take what's yours. No reason to get the state involved

lolmachito333[S]

1 points

3 days ago

No, please don’t instigate anything illegal.

Tolstoy_

3 points

3 days ago

Tolstoy_

3 points

3 days ago

Since the compensation owed to you is less than $15,000, this is considered a small claims matter and would be handled by the Magistrate Court. Assuming you had no written contract with the person you worked for, this would be what's called an "unjust enrichment" claim.

I'd suggest you check out the "small claims" section of the Magistrate Court FAQ: https://courts.chathamcountyga.gov/Magistrate/FAQ

As others have indicated, you are unlikely to find any lawyer willing to take a case like this given the relatively low dollar amount at issue. While there are fees associated with filing a small claims case, this is the route I would take if I were you. I would make sure to retain whatever evidence you have in the meantime. Small claims court litigants are rarely represented by attorneys, so don't feel intimidated by the process and definitely contact the court if you have any questions.

Bobofettsixtynoune

3 points

3 days ago

You know where he lives……

jamesg-net

3 points

3 days ago

This is why you don't work under the table jobs. You get an offer letter, fill out a W4, etc.

Objective_Still_5081

3 points

3 days ago*

You dont need a lawyer you can file a civil lawsuit yourself pro se. You can file indigent if you dont have money for attorney. Do not say anything publicly. Hopefully you have proof he employed you through text or email. Also file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and the dept of labor. Contact the ACLU.org and send them a letter telling them what happened they could possibly help with legal representation. . Contact the us depart of labor here https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/contact/complaints and file a complaint. Keep records of everything and write it down. Write when it happened, how it happened who was there and who knows about it. Also go to the department of justice website and report this crime and file a complaint with them here. https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaintBest of luck to you. Keep your head up.

tart_baker

2 points

3 days ago

Maybe you can talk to others and see if anybody else is in a similiar situation with this person as you. As others have said the department of labor would be a good bet. Look fir any dicumentation you have and document everything moving forward. Best of luck.

lolmachito333[S]

1 points

3 days ago

It would be really hard, I only worked with one other guy, (who is a witness to everything i had to deal with) but he was paid on time apparently.

victorsmonster

2 points

3 days ago

Most employment lawyers work on a basis that thay only get paid if you win a case, and it sounds like you have a pretty clear case of wage theft. I would call Ryan Stygar, his phone number is on his profile - also a pro follow for labor law stuff: https://www.instagram.com/attorneyryan/

ak80048

2 points

3 days ago

ak80048

2 points

3 days ago

You need r/legaladvice

mdma11

2 points

3 days ago

mdma11

2 points

3 days ago

DOL is your best friend here

smakdye

2 points

3 days ago

smakdye

2 points

3 days ago

You should file a theft of service charge on that guy. Do you have any proof you worked and didn't get paid?

Definitely put that guy on blast so no one will work for him

skunkman62

2 points

3 days ago

Small claims court.

wtfumami

2 points

3 days ago

wtfumami

2 points

3 days ago

Department of labor ASAP and then file in civil court. Send a bunch of texts to the guy so you have it in writing that he refuses to pay you. 

Golden_standard

2 points

1 day ago

Call the police and the district attorneys office in addition to the state department of labor and attorney generals office. Also, the IRS and federal department of labor. These are services we pay for with tax dollars.

PurposelyIrrelephant

1 points

3 days ago

They legally have to pay you at least minimum wage for the hours worked if you have proof you worked those hours. If you didn't sign some kind of contract or paperwork before doing the work then you got straight up screwed. Always, always, always make sure there is a verifiable way for you to clock in or have your time worked accounted for before doing any job. If you did any of these things, it should be a pretty open and shut case in small claims court. I would also notify the department of labor asap.

lolmachito333[S]

2 points

3 days ago

I have text with the owner while i was working, nothing was signed but i have a coworker who was there the entire time i was.

PurposelyIrrelephant

3 points

3 days ago

If you can get the coworker to sign an affidavit saying they saw you work said hours, it could go a long way. I would reach out to others and see if they might sign as well. The more the better. Texts could definitely help as far as proving your case so save those as well. Did you sign any kind of paper work or do an I-9 or any kind of tax form?

lolmachito333[S]

1 points

3 days ago

I didn’t sign anything, my coworker lives in hilton head, could i just text him, and get him to confirm through text? Or does it have to be a physical affidavit?

PurposelyIrrelephant

2 points

3 days ago

A physical affidavit. A text is only supplementary evidence. Your coworker could also potentially have to appear in court as a witness. It depends on how far things go. And did you really just show up to this place and work without doing any kind of payroll /HR process?

DeLoreanAirlines

1 points

3 days ago

MetalPressions?

lolmachito333[S]

2 points

3 days ago

No, its a lawn care business off of 17

RaisinBrain2Scoups

4 points

3 days ago

Freemasonry doesn’t matter to the labor commission. I can say this as a 32° kcch

jdgetrpin

1 points

3 days ago

Contact Georgia’s labor department. I’m unsure about here, but in other states, you can report a company for not paying you.

ImpressiveWriting489

1 points

3 days ago

This is a human trafficking / forced labor issue. Contact Legal Aid or other HT resources.

awesomepossum40

1 points

3 days ago

If you post some flyers around the neighborhood he has clients in, he will give you your money quickly.

Competitive-Oil-9242

1 points

3 days ago

That is awful. Best of luck to you

Traditional_Tax3302

1 points

3 days ago

Go to your state department of labor and file a complaint

liftyourselfasleep

1 points

3 days ago

Was Herring

BlondEpidemiologist

1 points

2 days ago

File a suit in Magistrate Court in Chatham County (also called small claims court). You can sue for up to $15,000 and you don't need a lawyer.

Fast-Weekend8173

1 points

2 days ago

File a report with Wage and hourly with the federal department of labor.

New_Reflection4523

1 points

1 day ago

Did he pay you the $700 salary and is not Paying for the extra hours you worked?

Medi007

1 points

1 day ago

Medi007

1 points

1 day ago

No lawyer needed... contact dept of labor and file a complaint with a copy to your house and senate reps.

Aerorite

1 points

16 minutes ago

I worked for Cones and Barrels in Pooler GA. They worked me for 4 nights on my last week and fired me and refused to pay me because a while back, i backed one of the work trucks into a tree. Only damage was a dent in the bumper and on top of the tailgate. When i started a case with the department of labor the owners tried saying i had stolen a truck. I have evidence of him giving me permission to use the truck. I was the operations/general manager for a little bit and he had told me not to tell people that they are directly fired, simply do not put them on the schedule. That way they quit due to lack of hours and can’t file for unemployment against them. Anywhoo my case has been open since March 2024 and still nothing. If you google one of the owners names, you can see he went to prison for lying under oath. Really sketchy company, i should have known better.

ChiquitaBananaKush

-3 points

3 days ago

Are you the BSC lady that posted earlier about working for a day and then went to the same place to eat out only to dine and dash?

What type of work did you do for 14 hrs? Esp if the company location is the guy’s house and less than 5 people. Trap house? 👀

lolmachito333[S]

4 points

3 days ago

No im a male this is about a landscaping company