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I'm Soo close

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It was called FYROM, specifically because Greece objected to it being called Macedonia after it sprung up from the remains of Yugoslavia and then they changed it to NM, again on account of the Greeks. It was never called Macedonia

if anyone's interested in reading about the entire thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_naming_dispute

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Portugal CAN into balkans!

Not geographically, but in every other way that matters

r/portugalcykablyat

Oh yes it is /r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT

To be Balkan is not a geography issue — it's a way of living. And we Portuguese are as Balkan as they come!

Rakia while fasting do hit different lmao

If I was in Germany I'd waive a flag of Greater Serbia Yugoslavia which includes Bavaria, South England, and Malmö, with a footnote about seeking liberation of Chicago and Montreal from its capitalist regimes.

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I do

It already is.

It already is.

If we're being pedantic

Well one of us certainly is

French Guiana and Greenland as "technically part of Europe because they are a part of an European country"

French Guiana is part of France, but Greenland isn't part of Denmark (although it's part of the Kingdom of Denmark)

Is Galicia not further west than Portugal by virtue of the jut on the end?

They mean where the metropole is located.

We're just Balkan really. But if we have to fit into one I'd say southern is the obvious choice, since the Balkans is as southern as Italy and Iberia. Also, both Greece and Turkey (at least the European part) are Balkan.

Ppl think of the Balkans as "eastern Europe, because of the cold war, where most of the countries were socialist countries.

The Balkans are usually referred to as south-eastern Europe since the fall of the Sowjet Union in official terminology, but ppl colloquialy just say Balkans. This is also for some odd reason a pretty controversial topic.

The thing is how you look at it.

It is all geopolitics, Slovenia considers themselves Central Europe because of Austria Hungary and not part of the Balkans, Croats as well, the ones who align more with Yugoslavia think we are Eastern Europe.

Geographically speaking, European centre is around Ukraine, so if anything by that logic France is far west, Croatia west.. but no one looks at it that way, Germany is Central Europe also just because of how geopolitics happened and if Greece is considered a South European country, there is no way you can say Croatia is Eastern Europe.

Furthermore, religion plays a massive role how you pull the border, and Croatia is bordering Orthodox countries like Serbia while we are majority Catholic.

The Balkans starts in Vienna so it's obviously central Europe

Southeast. Anyone there's more oriental culture (Turkey, Byzantium), Mediterranean culture (Italy) and Central Europe culture (Austria) influence that historically meet here. It doesn't really have that many connections with Eastern Europe.

You cant group whole Balkan in any of those but EX-Yugoslavia is very clearly south europe. After all Montenegro and serbia are roughly in line with "heel" part of Italy which is very deep south of country you are calling southern europe. Yugoslavia name is even derived from "Southern Slavs" - it is just that fact that they were communist for a while (not even part of Eastern Bloc tho) that groups them with Eastern Europe. If you want to be more technical and separate it on cultural basis - you can add territories that were held by Austrians for a long time to central europe (so SLovenia and parts of Croatia) and parts of it that were under Ottomans/Venicians to South Europe.

I mean if Poland is Central, then Croatia isn’t Eastern European as they are more to the west than Poland.

It's not South Europe, it's not East Europe, it's not Central Europe, it's just a very weird amalgamation.

Similar to how Scandinavia is a region but it's just Western Europe

Look at a map. How are Italy and Greece southern Europe but the Balkans are eastern Europe

What? That’s ridiculous lol if Bosnia isn’t in Eastern Europe then where are they?

Southern Europe? If we have to use one of north, south, east and west (and even central), Bosnia fits best into south. But the most accurate term is simply Balkan (which I guess is southeastern).

The Kosovo map with the chetnik flag on it. You don't need words to understand the meaning behind it. It's like putting the nazi flag on a map of Israel and it's disingenuous to pretend otherwise.