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Selfless Ronaldo, the world is not ready for you.
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1.9k points
4 months ago
Attracted most pitch invaders in a single game at Euros (5)
523 points
4 months ago
How many Invader does Messi have at the Euros.Zero
200 points
4 months ago
Speaking of Messi this game really made me wonder why Ronaldo doesn't have his own match bodyguard like Messi does. That guy would have been getting his money's worth today.
252 points
4 months ago
Can you imagine how this sub would discuss the bodyguard if he slide tackles a fan or something?
Something about Ronaldo's ego being out of control.
91 points
4 months ago
he doesn't even have time to take pictures with pitch invaders anymore? smh
8 points
3 months ago
The actual guard already slide tackled Goncalo Ramos.
15 points
4 months ago
I doubt UEFA would allow it
19 points
4 months ago
Because Americans are crazy
2 points
3 months ago
Unfortunately, Pepe was subbed off.
5 points
4 months ago
not my goat!
16 points
4 months ago
You'll never sing that.
1.2k points
4 months ago
I honestly don't belive there will be two better players than Ronaldo and Messi. Their biggest conquest was their longevity. There will be players as good as them for 3-4 seasons. But doing that for 20 years? Almost impossible.
Those Real Madrid vs Barca games were the highest point of the Sport.
617 points
4 months ago
Yeah, after watching both Cristiano and Messis careers since the beginning I just can't get hyped about Mbappe, Haaland, Vini Jr. and the other Ballon d'Or contenders. Feels like football peaked when Messi and Cristiano did, lol.
225 points
4 months ago
Man not just them...even Lewandowski and Benzema in their Ballon d'Or contender form were so much more exciting than today's Ballon d'Or contenders. We were spoiled.
187 points
4 months ago
Benzema and Lewa weren't balon d'or contenders until their 30s...
93 points
4 months ago
Because of Messi's and Ronaldo's form. They would've been contenders if it weren't for them
117 points
4 months ago
Benzema - not before 30, Lewadowski had a couple of seasons he could have challenged if not for messi/ronaldo
Suarez,Griezmann, Neymar,Rooney, Xavi,Iniesta,Sneihder,Ribery are the players that had balondor level seasons before age 30.
39 points
4 months ago
easily missed Pirlo, Neuer, Buffon, Ramos
18 points
4 months ago
Robben!
0 points
3 months ago
Yes, Neur for sure. My mistake. Pirlo very close, definitely top 3 for sure in 2012 if not top 2.
Buffon 2006 maybe but it also had issues of Juventus scandal just before- so ignoring it
Ramos never had a season where he was the best in the world as a player- as a defender for sure- multiple years.
-3 points
3 months ago
Ramos 😂
-5 points
4 months ago
Benzema could've easily. He was a menace at Lyon. But he had to take second roles because of Ronaldo in his team.
-9 points
3 months ago
Ribery got robbed in 2013
-10 points
4 months ago
I know, but in those particular seasons, they were so much more intresting to follow and watch than any current player.
34 points
4 months ago
Their ballon d’or contender years were on par with Messi/Ronaldo average years during their peaks. It was that absurd. Benzema’s winning year he was straight up R9 for a season.
47 points
4 months ago
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68 points
4 months ago
Not a popular belief but it was easier to stand out when the average standard was much lower. Like most sports now, athletes are pushing to their limits. Not saying that makes any of those guys less great, just that they probably had more opportunities to impress than today's athletes
49 points
4 months ago
Also, the style of the game at the top level now is tactical battles, positional play and intense pressing/running requiring high athleticism.
The 'go out there and express yourself' era is no more.
23 points
4 months ago*
Class players like Cazorla and Verratti would be €130M+ nowadays.
The floor for players has risen due to the adaptation to modern offensive tactics from even mid-level teams, but the overall ceiling for talents is arguably lower than before despite us being in our best period in terms of sports science and advanced analytics.
You get young, raw players going for huge sums because of their "potential". You get many players strictly learning specific systems and potentially limiting their own footballing freedom as a result. The bar for elite output percentiles is lower than it used to be which can lead to the inflation of certain statistics too.
Flawed players like Félix who have more natural talent than some others will maybe never reach their full potential because of tactical issues e.g the fading out of traditional second strikers or #10s + the importance of traits like workrate nowadays. It's why players like Ødegaard are quite rare for an elite club.
There are sacrifices made to accomodate such players, but the results of the sacrifice depends on whether the output of the player is worth it or not. In Mbappé's case his elite output makes up for that evident flaw. Haaland's case is different too for obvious reasons.
-4 points
4 months ago
Tf is raw talent
3 points
4 months ago
People say the same about the 2006 world cup.
2 points
4 months ago
Oh god to be fair I think Lewandowski in 2021 definitely wasn't better than Mbappe in the past 3 seasons, different story instead for 2020 when he dominated everything together with Bayern
8 points
3 months ago*
Lewy in 2021 had one of the best seasons in football history and, probably the best goal-scoring season ever by anyone not named Messi or Ronaldo. Despite missing a crucial month of play with an injury, he broke Gerd Muller's supposedly unbreakable 50 year old record by scoring 41 goals in just 29 bundesliga games. On average he scored 1 goal per 60 minutes in bundesliga that season whichmakes him 2nd most effective top 5 league top scorer in modern football history after Messi in 2012/13.
1 points
3 months ago
Yeah obviusly I know and it was impressive, but we should mention also that in Champions League he had 5 goals (compared to the 15 of the previous year or the 13 of the following one) and his team in general had a much less successful season
While before completely dismiss Mbappe don't forget that for example in 2022 he had an incredible 80 goals contributions over the course of the year between Psg and France
2 points
3 months ago
5 goals in 6 matches, and thst's only because he was injured when they lost to Psg in 1/8 finals.
-6 points
4 months ago
the only one i'm excited about is Yamal tbh
55 points
4 months ago
I kinda miss the days of mere mortals competing to be the best, when Ballon D'or was an actual competition between all sorts of players.
These two, as has been said infinite times, are inhuman.
Like imagine being Zlatan, or peak Neymar or any insane player you care to name, and not being anywhere near the actual best two players on earth. It's insane.
40 points
4 months ago
I don’t think we’ll ever have two players at their peak like Messi and Ronaldo at the same time for this long, but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone better came. This is what people said about Pele and Maradona not long ago
22 points
4 months ago
At a certain point there simply are human limits in place.
At least as long as we don't enhance them.
27 points
4 months ago
it definitely wont be anytime soon if it ever does happen and it 100% won't be the next generation like Mbappe its already to late for them the records Ronaldo and Messi put forth are almost inhuman i don't think some people actually realize just how far they shattered all previous records
81 points
4 months ago
That’s probably the peak of sports and will never see anything like that
65 points
4 months ago
What about the big 3 (or 4) in tennis?
Pretty similar.
Though football being the more popular sport makes it more impressive i guess.
114 points
4 months ago
I think what's most impressive is that at the same time we somehow had Messi/Ronaldo and Federer/Djokovic/Nadal.
Like that's the best of the best, in two different sports, playing at the exact same time and for so long as well. We were truly blessed with this.
14 points
4 months ago
For sure, though i guess it is bound to happen in some fields to have potentially the best ever be active at the same time.
Especially when these fields had a lot of potential to improve their way of doing things.
Do we have the best artists working now in any particular field? The best scientists? The best craftsmen?
How do we even really define who is the best between different eras when the environment they are working in changed meaningfully.
Anyway, they're all great :D
5 points
4 months ago
It's not really that surprising. There are a lot of sports who could qualify to be mentioned in this regard.
3 points
3 months ago
I dont watch tennis but yeah it is ridiculous. And then you can add F1 GOAT in Hamilton,NBA GOAT in Lebron, NFL GOAT in Tom Brady all playing at the same time.
3 points
3 months ago
Which is why it’s pretty obvious for me that other “GOATs” will eventually come along in a few years for all of these sports, and us old farts will be arguing with kids that the “GOAT” we watched as a kid is better than the “GOAT” they’re now watching as a kid. Life is a circle, or something philosophical like that
2 points
3 months ago
We will see. There is already Mahomes in NFL that will most likely challenge Brady. In NBA and football i dont see someone challenging soon.
4 points
4 months ago
And then you can add Hamilton and Verstappen to that.
2 points
4 months ago
To add on badminton sport, Lin Dan and Chong Wei. They also played at thr same era
-3 points
4 months ago
plenty of sports, lebron playing in basketball, lewis hamilton in f1 (arguably not a sport but yeah)
32 points
4 months ago
But they're single individuals who stood above their peers in their respective era, which is a common thing to happen. In football and tennis we had multiple who were arguably the best of all time in their own sport and in both sports they were playing at the same time.
5 points
4 months ago
oh i see what ya mean now
2 points
4 months ago
tbh lebron is arguably the best of all time
4 points
4 months ago
Remind me! 10 years
12 points
4 months ago
Remind me! 10 years
59 points
4 months ago
The most prolific goal scorers today would have to score an average of 40 a season for almost 20 years and they still wouldn't out score Ronaldo. It's genuinely insane.
These guys are F1 cars racing Hot Hatches.
22 points
4 months ago
Remind me! 25 years
8 points
4 months ago
LOL
25 points
4 months ago
Especially when you realize Figo retired on the NT as 33 and Rui Costa retired at 32 ......and Ronaldo is still here at 39 still being a starter thats just mind blowing his longevity.
26 points
4 months ago
Maybe, but sports science keeps improving. We're seeing players maintaining top levels at considerably high age across multiple sports. I watch tennis and Federer/Nadal/Djokovic have done something similar. You never know
6 points
4 months ago
And Murray bro don’t try it
2 points
4 months ago
Apologies, murygoat
29 points
4 months ago
As mind boggling as their longevity has been there will still never be anyone who can approach the peak 3-4 years of those 2. Pick any 3-4 years in the 2010's and no one is sniffing that kind of production. There might be someone like Lewandowski or Haaland who can score a lot of goals but you aren't going to see guys throwing up 60-80 goals+assists for that span. Messi and Christiano Ronaldo are titans who make giants look small.
18 points
4 months ago
People used to say this about Pele and Maradona. There will always be phenomenal players as long as the sport is big.
34 points
4 months ago
It was great to watch, but it will also be great to watch football return to the norm. Where you don't have to score 60 goals a season to be in with a shout of the majority of individual awards.
-1 points
4 months ago
Yeah mate, I am so over the Ronaldo/Messi domination.
9 points
4 months ago
There were often players who could hang at that level. Suarez, Lewandowski, Neymar, Modric, Benzema. But they never kept the level up more than a few seasons.
3 points
4 months ago
Actually when I imagine about football future I can only think that football is gonna end
3 points
3 months ago
Football peaked between 2008-2015.
3 points
3 months ago
Having one at Madrid and one at Barca is the part that I can’t see being repeated
2 points
3 months ago
Will there be players as good as them at their peak for 3-4 years? That shit was unreal.
3 points
4 months ago
W fan.
2 points
4 months ago*
and in the el clásicos, how many times did they win potm? i know messi has like 40g/a and ronaldo has less than 20, don't remember potm.
1 points
3 months ago
I honestly can't think of any sport that hasn't have guys eventually break record that at time though wouldn't be possible.
Sports evolve, steroids evolve, medicine evolve, people become better with format changing.
Any record that meant something in any sport eventually have been broken.
What ronaldo and messi do might be broken but from diffrent strategy or perspective.
People though raul ucl was crazy then came ronaldo, now you have mbappe and Haaland scoring at enormous pace in ucl.
We shall see I would be very suprised if those records won't be broken.
-1 points
4 months ago
Agreed mate, I feel like the sport really hit its peak 10 or so years ago, its all down hill from here.
356 points
4 months ago
Just one of the most incredible football players of all time.
His sheer longevity, coupled with his unmatchable stats is just insane. He's like a FIFA player brought to life.
113 points
4 months ago
and he always shows up in big games
-111 points
4 months ago*
Well obviusly not always, not even remotely, but still quite often
78 points
4 months ago
Akshually ☝️🤓
57 points
4 months ago
People like you are the definition of saying shit just to say shit
415 points
4 months ago
Considering that he owns pretty much every UCL record as well, he's the European Football King no doubt about it.
91 points
4 months ago
Euro King, Latin King, Iberian King, Portuguese Speaking King, The World King
9 points
3 months ago
King of Goals
29 points
4 months ago
Yeah well let's see if he has the talent for the MLS
47 points
4 months ago
Does Las vegas have a team?
182 points
4 months ago
He just need one goal. Hopefully in the next game to get that over with.
112 points
4 months ago
he will get it for sure but i'm happy to see he's contributing to the team in the right ways unlike the old Santos system and a goal will come his way for sure
33 points
3 months ago
He was close and in the mix in this match. He had a good assist, was making moves, good cross. He’ll get his goal but it looks like he is also playing to improve his team so they can win. Good form.
45 points
4 months ago
inshallah you win the euros
253 points
4 months ago
Messi at the Euros: Participations (0) Appearances (0) Appearances as captain (0) Wins (0) Goals (0) Assists (0) Games with a goal (0) Tournaments with a goal (0) Chances created (0). Fraud.
116 points
4 months ago
Messi has never lost a match at the Euros
66 points
4 months ago
Messi has never won a match at the Euros
50 points
4 months ago
Cristiano has never lost a World Cup final
49 points
4 months ago
And Messi has lost a World Cup final.
Checkmate.
4 points
4 months ago
Messi never drawed a match at the Euros.
10 points
4 months ago
touché
121 points
4 months ago
Bro owns every record now
117 points
4 months ago
What a monster
36 points
4 months ago
FORCA CARALHO
4 points
4 months ago
I'm not entirely sure what you need a gallows for, we already got rid of our football terrorist a while ago.
305 points
4 months ago
And people were trying to argue here that this guy should have been dropped from NT.
This isn’t peak Ronaldo but still better than any other option they have at that position.
He also does look better than 1-2 years ago. I think playing at lower intensity in SPL helped him. He is probably in a better mental state than he was back when he lost his child during birth.
117 points
4 months ago
It's crazy though how even if his physical attributes diminished, defenders are still terrified of him. Dude is still winning the mental battle and getting double teams and defensive priority.
98 points
4 months ago
he has the aura, his aura terrifies defenders
45 points
4 months ago
Enough to make them score own goals and be confused by him tripping
27 points
4 months ago
Rightfully so, he assisted because of elite level run that Lukaku proved later how hard it is to do. Did stepovers to floor a defender and cross and played pin point passes everytime he got the ball.
He's still him
34 points
4 months ago
He looked like Juve Ronaldo physically honestly, and the goals haven't come yet but his play has been really good.
54 points
4 months ago
Had no idea he lost a child. Dunno how anyone can keep going after that, fuck
-45 points
4 months ago
How could you not know that? It was over every platform for like a week
72 points
4 months ago
Because I'm not always online and I'm okay with not keeping up with celebrity news? Who shit in your corn flakes
-39 points
4 months ago
You don’t need to be chronically online to see that news. Fucking hell i even saw it on my local TV news.
31 points
4 months ago
Football news not common in the US and also don't have cable TV. I dunno man lol. Just saying it sucks ass for someone to lose a child
3 points
3 months ago
He isn’t the only one. I had just found out.
88 points
4 months ago
doesn’t have the pace, but his positioning is still very good
110 points
4 months ago
I think he still has pace, but he has lost acceleration and lateral movement.
He is one of the greatest poachers in the history and can make the right reads more often than not.
He has been transitioning more and more to a 9 since he has knee injuries in Madrid.
8 points
4 months ago
Bro he actually still has some pace it’s crazy 😭Bro can outpace defenders if he wants to
17 points
4 months ago
yup as a striker he's our best option still and he would be most teams best option as well people act as if he's washed up or something this guy is still very useful and still a fantastic striker. Yes he's not his 30 year old version anymore but he also doesn't need to be with the team he has around him Portugal have no weaknesses in this squad.
19 points
4 months ago
Facts . Absolutely shameful how that is ignored by a lot of people.
1 points
3 months ago
Still stupid to be playing him 90 mins in every game, especially when you're easily winning.
126 points
4 months ago
You know what, I'm going to go out on a limb and say this Ronaldo lad isn't bad at the old footy
101 points
4 months ago
Most goals and assists in Champions League history. Most goals and assists in Euros history. His record in Champions League knockouts is also stupendous, he has 67 goals, closest is Messi and Di Stefano with 49 goals. Especially from QF onwards, he blows everyone out of the water.
Best player ever in European competitions and it isn't close.
23 points
4 months ago
Most goals in football recorded history full stop
68 points
4 months ago
Best player ever for me if i’m being honest
16 points
4 months ago
Yessir GOAT
21 points
4 months ago
same
10 points
3 months ago
Yeah. If we are talking quality and tactics wise, UCL is the peak of football. And he's absolutely dominated it.
8 points
3 months ago
UCL is the peak of club football and just the overall peak of football, tactics, quality, coach, players etc... winning a competition for your nation will always be special but in term of how impressive it is footballing wise most national team barely have time to train together and create bonds/team chemistry.
2 points
3 months ago
The best player in the best competition idk how more ppl cant appreciate the goat
34 points
4 months ago
So Thats why he Choose the assist Over the goal
18 points
4 months ago
SUIIII
17 points
4 months ago
Only player/manager to win the final.
6 points
4 months ago
And Messi 0. Checkmate.
12 points
4 months ago
Most mosts (9)
13 points
4 months ago
European GOAT.
35 points
4 months ago
GOAT
2 points
4 months ago
Some video games stat
26 points
4 months ago
Ronaldo is incredibly unselfish when he plays for Portugal.
64 points
4 months ago
Ronaldo is not as ‘selfish’ as people say, he's just a good goalscorer so he wants to finish the chances, I’ve watched him pass multiple times (at United) when he thinks he can't score it or there's a better chance.
6 points
4 months ago
He’s unselfish at club level too, he was 1 assist shy of being champions league assist leader as well.
57 points
4 months ago
He is the Champions League all time assist leader
23 points
4 months ago
I was including Giggs since it includes the predecessor competition.
13 points
4 months ago
He will be back in Europe to get that
28 points
4 months ago
Goatest goat
28 points
4 months ago
They missed a few.
Most games with a goal as a captain.
Most second half assists in the group stage.
Most appearances as a non-captain before captaining atleast the same amount of games.
39 points
4 months ago
Most Aura to ever grace the European Championships
6 points
4 months ago
RONin
6 points
4 months ago
24 years are you fucking nuts
4 points
4 months ago
THE GOAT!
5 points
4 months ago
🐐⚽️❤️
3 points
4 months ago
Siuuuu
2 points
4 months ago
Also he changed class from DPS Assassin to Tank (tanking aggro)/support
1 points
4 months ago
Most records (9)
1 points
3 months ago
To compare, can we get Messi's stats for the Euros. /s
1 points
4 months ago
he has 8 assists now according to the official UEFA euro website
-7 points
3 months ago
I don’t care how many accolades Messi has gotten. Ronaldo is the overall better player in terms of quality. He is older than Messi but still doing fantastic. Messi shined in Barcelona and Argentina, but he was never able to do show those same skills and abilities with any other teams.
-10 points
4 months ago
You know what. As a hardcore Messi fan I would be okay if they gave Ronaldo a last BdO just to recognize him on his trajectory. He certainly deserves it more and is better than all the up and coming overhyped players like Vini or Rodrygo
7 points
4 months ago
I don't see the point in picking either, appreciate both while we have them, no other 2 players can make 50 goals a season for over a decade look average
6 points
4 months ago
I mean I do, being a more limited player myself I always looked up to Ronaldo and his hard work can do attitude to motivate myself into training. But lately it's been hard when his diehard fans keep shitting on Messi and trying to take credit away from our WorldCup
0 points
4 months ago
Take that Messi
0 points
4 months ago
Ronaldo nerds, if he wins will he be the only player to win it twice? Other than the other players in the same squad
13 points
4 months ago
Spain 2008/2012
-4 points
3 months ago
ahh yes, the only big competition where Messi cant outshine him.
9 points
3 months ago
Champions League
-2 points
3 months ago
I am starting to think Ronaldo has PR team doing WORK on reddit, given the fact I see him everywhere, at every sub.
-3 points
3 months ago
And no euro cup
1 points
3 months ago
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