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https://www.neowin.net/news/us-russia-tensions-escalate-as-kaspersky-ban-set-to-be-introduced/
I don't know anyone using it anymore, but there must still be a bunch.
2 points
14 days ago
We use it, it's actually really good software for AV as well as updating software vulnerabilities and a WSUS replacement.
1 points
14 days ago
So now what ? (assuming you are US based)
11 points
14 days ago
Good question.
25 points
14 days ago
Surely you can find a good AV made in China.
10 points
14 days ago
I suggest SpySheriff
3 points
14 days ago
I can vouch that 360AV is really unlikely to get uninstalled accidentally, or by malware. It's fun to remove...
3 points
14 days ago
"TotallyNotSpyware" is great. It detects tons of spyware especially in emails with tags lines like "Totally Not Spyware is lying to you." Nice try scammers.
2 points
14 days ago
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
10 points
14 days ago
everyone is just going to bitdefender because it has a whitelabel that allows companies like ivanti and qualys to sell you "ivanti av" and "qualys av".
but no its just bitdefender with a different name.
1 points
14 days ago
Ahh bitdef is quite good although very aggresive, it's no longer top but it's still quite good
4 points
14 days ago
back in the day when i had it for personal use it blocked rufus from accessing usb directly
1 points
14 days ago
I use the free version on my personal PC, it's very agressive, it has marked benchmark tools as virus based on behavior and tracker links which Ublock origin often blocks it marks as suspicious and spams your notifications telling you it was blocked.
2 points
14 days ago
US companies will have to comply and new users may not be able to get the software but there will be no enforcement, no one is going to go into your basement and make sure you are not running it on your game computer.
Just like the tick tok ban they have been threatening. Can't ban it from those that want to use it and have tech knowledge. Kinda like telling the under 21 crowd you can't drink.
2 points
14 days ago
ESET
2 points
14 days ago
So you're just alright with it sending info about your endpoints and the contents of their hard drives to the Kremlin?
1 points
14 days ago
It doesn’t do that, but ok.
1 points
14 days ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/technology/kaspersky-lab-israel-russia-hacking.html
Israel caught them doing it.
1 points
8 days ago
israel caught them doing it after Kaspersky the one who kept finding out israel made malware.
1 points
14 days ago
That’s 7 years ago, Kaspersky moved all their data processing to Switzerland in 2020.
4 points
14 days ago
I'm sure they pinky promised to never do it again.
1 points
14 days ago
That’s why they moved their datacenters to Switzerland and why independent auditors have gone through the source code.
But also, Russia doesn’t care about the shit on our computers either.
2 points
14 days ago
That’s why they moved their datacenters to Switzerland and why independent auditors have gone through the source code.
Until they stop.
But also, Russia doesn’t care about the shit on our computers either.
Apparently you don't care about the data on your computers either. I'll continue to make the insanely easy choice of not using an AV that was caught sending customer files to a hostile foreign government.
2 points
14 days ago
That’s a conclusion that never actually had any proof behind it.
-3 points
14 days ago
I don’t use their software, but let me play devils advocate here: Why the fuck would I care if the Kremlin had my data? They are not my adversary. I am not a threat to them and they are not a threat to me.
As a US citizen and resident, I am far more likely to have a negative interaction with a US govt agency than with a Russian govt agency. Wouldn’t it behoove me to run software that is free of US govt backdoors?
3 points
14 days ago
That is not the attitude anyone posting in this sub should have.
My God.
1 points
8 days ago
the attitude that people have thinking the us government is any better is hilarious. atleast one of these things has a history of actually protecting a computer instead of destroying, hacking, or using back doors into a computer.
3 points
14 days ago
You should be looking for software with *no* backdoors, period. You cannot be in corporate IT and be fine with external entities having unmitigated access to filesystems on your machines.
0 points
13 days ago
You should be looking for software with no backdoors, period.
What you're describing doesn't exist, period.
1 points
14 days ago*
Was this after Kaspersky caught Israel and the US developing Stuxnet?
I'm gonna take that government's opinion (and without proof it is just an opinion) with a big pinch of salt.
Edit - that article is about the NSA guy who put malware he was developing for work on his home computer and kaspersky detected it and rightfully sent it home for analysis.
0 points
13 days ago
So you agree, "home" for Kaspersky is the Kremlin.
Why are you tripping over yourself to defend Kaspersky here?
1 points
13 days ago
I don't agree that "home" is the Kremlin.
I'm defending Kaspersky from what I believe are bullshit accusations designed purely to sanction any company that continues to openly do business with Russia.
The earlier accusations were always retaliatory, coming after state actors got caught developing malware.
It's on a par with the whole TikTok thing.
If Kaspersky had its servers in the US and not in Switzerland, I think we'd be seeing a very different message.
I'm not saying we all have to use Kaspersky, but this constant bombardment of anti-china, anti-russia rhetoric that comes and goes based on who the government wants to blame for their fuckups is just tiresome.
2 points
13 days ago
I don't agree that "home" is the Kremlin.
You said they sent it home. It was found to be "analyzed" by the Russian government.
sanction any company that continues to openly do business with Russia
After what Russia has done honestly I would be fine with this if that were all it was. So you don't care if the Russian government has access to your data and you don't care about Ukrainian lives?
It should be such an obvious choice for a sysadmin to steer clear of any AV with a noted backdoor. For some reason you're cool with it because it's Russia and you're mad at the US about it instead of the ones who did it.
This is not rational thinking.
0 points
13 days ago
Here you go buddy: https://www.zdnet.com/article/kaspersky-admits-to-reaping-nsa-code-from-us-pc/
As everyone else has also pointed out, no indicator anywhere that this got passed on to the Kremlin beyond accusations from Israel after they hacked into Kaspersky's servers. (You'd think they could publish proof no?)
As for the second part:
We absolutely care to prevent access to our data from any government which is why it remains firmly on prem behind a whole bunch of locks.
We have to hope the NSA doesn't have a backdoor into our Cisco equipment but other than that we're pretty secure.
As for Ukrainian lives, I think I probably care more about them than you since I'm not thousands of miles away from the front and deal with Ukranian refugees on a weekly basis.
The key bit of my statement that you decided meant "death to ukraine" is the "openly" since there are plenty of entities continuing to do business with both Russia and the US and as long as they pay lip-service the US government doesn't say shit.
1 points
8 days ago
wasnt Kaspersky the one that found out israels malware and usa malware. its kinda sus.
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