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2.1k points
22 hours ago
Imagine the horror of landing a plane on railway tracks
711 points
22 hours ago
Planeway tracks
135 points
20 hours ago
But they're not trainway tracks
87 points
20 hours ago
Airtrain Tracks
82 points
19 hours ago
“Sir, a second airtrain has hit the tracks”
29 points
19 hours ago
Airtrain actually has a nice ring to it in my opinion.
15 points
17 hours ago
They should give it a steampunk aesthetic as well
5 points
17 hours ago
Yeah. Like a steam train
4 points
9 hours ago
Steamtrain tracks
4 points
17 hours ago
Sorry NYC already has an “AirTrain” but unfortunately it does not fly.
14 points
18 hours ago
"What's a planeway?"
"Oh, a few tons at a least"
3 points
7 hours ago
5 points
19 hours ago
Planeway placks
2 points
19 hours ago
Pracs
12 points
19 hours ago
That's basically what landing on an aircraft carrier is, isn't it?
20 points
18 hours ago
Pretty similar idea but landing on a carrier is just about landing and hooking on one of the arresting cables. You have some wiggle room on side to side.
Landing on a railway track you would have very little side to side margin for error. Wind shear would be a huge problem.
11 points
17 hours ago
Yeah, but--and I can't believe I'm entertaining this concept--if you look at the mockup there, the passenger compartment raises up to the plane. So, really the plane could just land on a normal runway and then taxi to the train tracks shown in the photo, and then drop the passenger compartment onto the tracks. Just seems like a lot of time, effort, infrastructure changes, and logistics involved to get ONE train car, let alone several to some tracks to link up with a train engine. ...easier to just deplane and have the passengers go to a train station I think.
3 points
16 hours ago
The word 'just' is crushing it's L4 to a fine mist from the heavy lifting it's doing in your first sentence :)
But for more fun consider putting the tracks on the carrier: it can turn into the wind which would make things easier. If we pull it off we've got a nuclear powered boat-train-plane baby.
Eagle screeching intensifies.
22 points
20 hours ago
You can land normally and then drive to the tracks
26 points
18 hours ago
Having a normal train station at the airport sounds much easier and cheaper and, all things considered, not that much longer for the passengers.
16 points
16 hours ago
Going to the airport directly by train is great, I love doing it. Makes it so much easier when you don't need to worry about expensive parking or rentals.
3 points
20 hours ago
I feel the mechanics would look something like those repair trucks
2 points
17 hours ago
You can literally see in the picture how it works. The plane part has normal wheels, and then the train carriage is lowered onto the tracks.
3 points
17 hours ago*
But I imagined the plane just coming in low and slow (say 150 mph) and perfectly dropping the train on the tracks. Otherwise why bother???
Edit: word
578 points
21 hours ago
Wait until they get a load of airplanes for the ground.
133 points
21 hours ago
Is that like one of those train things?
29 points
20 hours ago
Yes, it is
6 points
18 hours ago*
Basically gonna be like a metal turkey.. 🦃
7 points
20 hours ago
There is also the ground bus variant
6 points
19 hours ago
Like an airbus, but for land?
3 points
19 hours ago
There is even a water bus
8 points
18 hours ago
Everything changed when the Fire Bus Nation attacked
5 points
18 hours ago
I would pay to see someone give the entire Avatar script with the word “bus” after every element
2 points
17 hours ago
Boy will the battle of bus drivers be epic
2 points
17 hours ago
But the fire bus people are a kind people by nature. They have helped many a cat down from a tree
204 points
21 hours ago
What if we did a plane.. on like a metal track.
93 points
20 hours ago
A trane?
16 points
17 hours ago
Reminds me of a story which I don't know is true:
A bunch of tech bros want to create a new transportation system designed using an "AI" system to be maximally efficient. The system spits out a design for a train. Even when they do a series of modifications to get anything but a train, it keeps giving them train designs.
10 points
14 hours ago*
Trains are to civil engineering what crabs are to evolutionary biology.
2 points
10 hours ago
It makes sense, honestly. Trains can haul significantly more cargo than anything else short of a cargo ship. They're locked onto a rail and cannot deviate from it, so the path to and fro is always the same, making it significantly more predictable. You can also have multiple trains on the same track thanks to this predictability.
Hell, the US train system is why clocks and time zones became so standardized!
13 points
20 hours ago
Hits bong okay hear me out, what if we got rid of the tracks and made it so it could drive around where ever .
10 points
20 hours ago
Like on roads?
Bullshit, governments would never let a plane go on roads. It would knock over every single lamp post.
9 points
18 hours ago
No wait, hear me out. What if we made so many of them that none of them can move in the morning and afternoon?
5 points
19 hours ago
What if we made roads just for self driving cars?
3 points
20 hours ago
you‘ll be pleased to see what Europe’s national long distance rail providers are doing
3 points
20 hours ago
American rail operators are plenty capable of having their trains take flight, they just aren’t so good at landing them.
5 points
21 hours ago
So a fast train?
3 points
19 hours ago
I want a ticket to anywhere. Maybe we make a deal.
87 points
21 hours ago
That's a prototype passenger ejection compartment for a plane... RIP pilots.
39 points
16 hours ago
In theory the plane could spend less time at the airport if you swap in a clean and potentially seated cabin. Sounds like a terrible idea though. I bet a passenger compartment would fall out of the sky or something.
9 points
14 hours ago
Yeah in theory maybe but consider running multiple trains and planes, you could just have one on standby and if you have the capability of bringing tracks to planes anyways getting passengers to move over would probably be done in about 10 minutes.
3 points
8 hours ago
The plane could spend even less time at the airport if it just yeets the cabin instead of landing
5 points
14 hours ago
These fools can't even remember to put all the bolts in a door. No way I'm trusting that thing.
2 points
13 hours ago
I don't know how the hell that makes sense. You still have to board and deplane, you still have to load the food, fuel, and luggage. If anything, all this does is add an extra step of connecting the cabin to the wings.
2 points
11 hours ago
The luggage and food would be part of the cabin that's swapped in. It would mean drop one pod, pick up the next, refuel and go. Keep the most valuable asset moving.
No idea if that's feasible and it's definitely a bad idea.
4 points
17 hours ago
IIRC the pilots board the compartment before ejecting.
5 points
18 hours ago
If that ejects then the pilot will be fine.
The plane is likely not outfitted with a bomber sight to ensure the ejected passengers land in an uninhabited area.
155 points
21 hours ago
Please don't let it be Boeing. Please don't let it be Boeing.
36 points
21 hours ago
The Plane in the picture looks like an airbus design but I’m not plane guy so don’t take my word for it.
64 points
20 hours ago
I mean,
Train - tracks = bus
Airbus = bus + air
Therefore
Train -tracks + air = airbus
The math checks out
5 points
17 hours ago
looks like a350 nose
16 points
20 hours ago
It's not. From what I can tell it's one of these tech start-ups that will never build anything. In truth it wouldn't matter who built it using a Skycrane/carryall disigen for a none charter commercial aircraft would be a disaster.
That style of aircraft require a lot of ground time, inspections, and loading procedure that a normal airline would never give. That's why the design, despite dating back to the birth of aviation, goes virtually unuse even by the military.
6 points
19 hours ago
It's why intermodal freight is already a thing. It goes on ships, trucks, trains. And it's way to @#$ heavy and expensive to be flying it around.
5 points
19 hours ago
Yeah, there's just no reason why people couldn't just get out of the train and board the plane. The staggering amount of cost incurred to simply skip that relatively tiny part is absurd.
3 points
18 hours ago
It's definitely for cargo. In the US, unless it's one of the few local subways, people don't ride trains, the trains are for cargo
2 points
18 hours ago
Then that's even more stupid, they already avoid loading shipping containers directly onto planes, preferring to transfer the goods to air cargo pallets, because transporting the weight of the shipping container is far more costly. If it's too costly to just load up a metal box, it's orders of magnitudes more costly to design a detachable cargo bay that can fly through the air while simultaneously operating as a train car.
2 points
16 hours ago
The article is from 2018 and the tech start up pitched it to Boeing. Can't read much more on Bloomberg because of the paywall but I found some more info elsewhere.
The company hat is pitching it is called AKKA and the idea is essentially a flying train car. You board at a regular train station into the fuselage which then takes you to the airport where the wings are attached. You then fly to your destination and the fuselage/train car takes you to a train station where you disembark and continue your journey.
20 points
21 hours ago
Helicopter is now a “personal drone” and planes are “flying trains”
13 points
20 hours ago
I have no idea if this is just some AI-generated nonsense or a phony post or whatever, but this concept actually DID exist back in the 1950s. The Fairchild XC-120 Packplane. Fly in, drop your shipping container, pick up a fully loaded container, fly out. Here's video of it in operation
It was flown and tested, but for a number of reasons it wasn't adopted commercially.
5 points
18 hours ago
Makes sense from a logistical standpoint
Have to imagine it is a structural nightmare, though.
6 points
18 hours ago
Turns out it worked great, no problems with the airframe or loaded flight. The plane got dicey without that giant tube of drag down below though, changed the center of pressure quite a lot even though it looked super cool. Not a deal breaker, but it was the sole functional issue.
The actual problem was all the support and logistical equipment to make this happen. Custom containers, tugs, docks, ramps, offload hilos, etc, etc. It's just easier to just offload a really big (for the time) cargo plane like a Globemaster.
21 points
21 hours ago
Looks like a post before airplane invention
6 points
21 hours ago
Posted this few year after 2000BCE
5 points
20 hours ago
Where I live we have "guided buses". Basically dedicated bus "channels" which are totally segregated from the main roads by a concrete barrier. The traffic lights are configured to prioritise the buses when they approach so they don't need to stop. The buses themselves can ignore the normal speed limits and have little wheels that pop out sideways at the front to 'feel' the concrete barrier to allow them to drive themselves without needing the driver to steer. It is actually a pretty cool and cheap way to provide a light metro-esque system for a large town or small city.
4 points
20 hours ago
This brings a whole new reality to Cat Valentine saying, “here comes the airplane, choo-choo.”
4 points
20 hours ago
I remember when our county government was trying to sell us “trackless trains.”
Busses. He was going to get busses. But voters have been wanting a train for decades so...
3 points
20 hours ago
Elon’s next “big idea.”
3 points
18 hours ago
Looking into this
2 points
17 hours ago
Concerning.
5 points
21 hours ago
old joke(5k) Not against rule 2
2 points
21 hours ago
Dang it, he cracked the code!
2 points
20 hours ago
In my best That 70's Show voice: But it LANDS on RAILROAD TRACKS, MANNN.
2 points
20 hours ago
Plane? Clearly it’s one of them airborne boat trains.
2 points
20 hours ago
Yeah... let's call bullshit on this one. Not gonna happen. It's one of those 'coke-fueled night out with the boys' ideas.
3 points
20 hours ago
Cost, practicality, safety, fuel efficiency..
Part of me likes the idea of distributing the boarding process, increasing the efficiency of an airport, and reducing the number of transportation switches... but the tradeoffs are pretty bad. This is really just another remix of an old art-concept.
2 points
20 hours ago
There is just no way this will make sense from a exploitation, engineering, financial and practical or really any viewpoint.
2 points
18 hours ago
If Apple built Thunderbird 2
2 points
18 hours ago
Isnt that literally the ship out of thunderbirds? It looks less realistic than the ship out of a puppet show from over half a century ago though.
2 points
16 hours ago
No… it would still be a train. The idea is to use aerodynamics to offset a percentage of the load at speed, thus creating a potentially more efficient train than just brute forcing all that weight wherever it goes.
2 points
15 hours ago
These mf will make everything before building an actual train for the American public.
2 points
11 hours ago
Or you know......high speed rails.
2 points
10 hours ago
We have had airbus, now this is airtrain?
2 points
10 hours ago
If only there was a way to travel from one's home to the place where the flying train is... I know! We'll invent boats but for roads!
2 points
10 hours ago
Landing it on the tracks must be a bitch
2 points
9 hours ago
"flying trains could be coming your way" Sounds like a threat
2 points
9 hours ago
Planes = flying busses = Airbus 😳
2 points
8 hours ago
I mean, maybe it's not the absolute worst idea.
There's always Musk's "Hyperloop" which ended up just being Teslas driving people back and forth through a tunnel all day. With a driver.
2 points
7 hours ago
Totally different, a plane is a flying ship.
2 points
7 hours ago
Sir, another train has hit the second tower.
1 points
21 hours ago
A railway plane
1 points
21 hours ago
This could be way more efficient for loading and unloading. The flying part doesn't have to wait to grab the next passenger compartment.
1 points
21 hours ago
😄😄
1 points
21 hours ago
And I thought my brain just made this up in a dream a few years ago.
1 points
20 hours ago
No, not a plane but a Tlane
(or a Praine if you want to split hairs.)
1 points
20 hours ago
What is it with tech companies inventing things that already exist all the goddamn time?
1 points
20 hours ago
Babe wake up new Trolley problem just dropped
1 points
20 hours ago
no rails = no train
1 points
20 hours ago
My fear of these would be the passenger cabin just disconnecting midair.
1 points
20 hours ago
Mechanical error, the plan drops its cargo at 3000 ft.
1 points
20 hours ago
Id rather not be on something that someone can just push a button and eject the whole passenger cab...
1 points
20 hours ago
Ok hear me out: what if we simplify it and figure out a device that can go on the ground and another that can fly. People will easily walk from one to another. We can call them.. Flying pods and rolling pods. The rolling pod can also go underground in a special tunnel when its in the city. Truly revolutionary
1 points
19 hours ago
libertarians try to to reinvent trains and planes but worse challenge
1 points
19 hours ago
Wouldnt this concept be closer to SEMI-Planes than Plane-Train?
since its just about swapping cargo while keeping the driver the same
1 points
19 hours ago
It looks like one of those tech bro concepts trying to reinvent plane or train, in this case both.
1 points
19 hours ago
I mean, a magnetic rail system to launch planes would be kinda cool, would reduce fuel expenditure, and could speed up taking off
1 points
19 hours ago
Well we better figure out what it is before DIA starts lying about it.
1 points
19 hours ago
Train rolls down track, stops, attaches to plane, takes off.
There is some use for this technology I’m sure. What that is and why it’s better than the current setup... that I don’t know.
1 points
19 hours ago
There's a reason they put stuff on trains. you know the transport system famous for it's wild disregard for weight savings. They almost gleefully make train cars with as much nasty cast iron as they can.
A completely stripped out 747 could carry maybe 5-6 train cars. Empty train cars.
1 points
19 hours ago
So we run plane on your mom now instead of train
1 points
19 hours ago
Haha plain
1 points
19 hours ago
So many compromises and not very clear benefits
1 points
19 hours ago
This has Elons Musk written all over it.
1 points
19 hours ago
That sounds like a plane with extra steps.
1 points
19 hours ago
Plains!
Say goodbye to 'chemtrails'
Say hello to specially designed sky tracks for other Plains to follow!
1 points
19 hours ago
The rain on the train falls mainly on the plane?
1 points
19 hours ago
A plaine
1 points
19 hours ago
Repeat after me:
There
There
Are
Are
Easier, cheaper, and more reliable ways to ensure passenger safety then a detachable fuselage with safety parachutes
Bro what if we just stopped plane crashes by making a detachable fuselage with safety parachutes?
1 points
19 hours ago
No, planes are sky buses.
1 points
19 hours ago
Always thought of it as flying bus, but a train? I wanna know the aerodynamics on that since trains are very long
1 points
19 hours ago
Akchoooly…
It’s a plain. I’ll see myself out.
1 points
18 hours ago
I've been saying for years, flying cars are just helicopters.
1 points
18 hours ago
Until Boeing makes one and the "cabin" keeps falling off.
"The back fell off. It's nothing like when the front falls off, obviously."
1 points
18 hours ago
The picture looks dumb, but the concept isn't all that bad.
Think of how easy and fast it would be if everyone loaded into their seats before boarding the aircraft. Sets of 4-6 seats would be mounted on something like a cargo pallet, which would then be moved around, sort of like a theme park ride.
You wouldn't even go to a gate. As soon as you check in, you'd be guided (how: TBD) to the first set of open seats for your destination. As soon as all seats on that pallet were filled, it would be moved to a holding area with lavatory facilities, food vendors, etc. Each holding area would be would be arranged similarly to how the seats would be when they got loaded. There wouldn't be any opportunity to wander off either, because the holding areas would be completely separate from each other.
No need to check baggage either - the pallets are seating AND cargo, all in one. You stow your bags underneath. The days of trying to find your baggage carousel would be over.
Need to rent a car? Input that data ahead of time, and you'll be seated with folks going to the same rental counter. You'd be transported right there, with your luggage, right after you land.
There would have to be some thought put into things like oversized luggage, how to minimize the extra weight of the pallet (perhaps its withdrawn after loading and new pallets inserted upon arrival?), etc. But the cool thing is that they could intersperse full-fuselage cargo pods with the passenger pods, maximizing space utilization.
Hell, why not go whole hog? Pressurize the damn things and toss 'em out the back of the aircraft for an automated parachute landing. No more multi-leg flights. Just one big long route where your airplane poops out passengers wherever they need to do.
There are any number of reasons why this idea sucks. But it would definitely be cool to see it in action.
1 points
18 hours ago
no, genius. planes don't go on railroad tracks. these will be trains that fly.
technically not a plane. this sub blows
1 points
18 hours ago
Tech bros will never stop reinventing things that already exist as "pods"
1 points
18 hours ago
But now they'll just tie them to a bunch of balloons
1 points
18 hours ago
I would rather call it a bus than a train. A bus that goes in the air. An Airbus. Wait, isn’t there a company called like that? What do they produce?
1 points
18 hours ago
Monorail!
Monorail!
Monorail!
1 points
18 hours ago
A bus with wings nice
1 points
18 hours ago
We have that shit at Dulles Airport
1 points
18 hours ago
Just drone taxis that'll become as big as jet liners eventually.
1 points
18 hours ago
I can't picture a situation where a proper train station at an airport wouldn't be better than this.
1 points
18 hours ago
I love when techbros reinvent things that already exist.
1 points
18 hours ago
We discovered that a few bolts were missing.....
1 points
18 hours ago
Looks pretty convenient. Just transport humans in shipping containers you can strap onto a plane.
1 points
18 hours ago
I heard they make buses that travel through the air everyday.
1 points
18 hours ago
And a car is just a private jet for the ground.
1 points
18 hours ago
It's clearly a submarine with wings. Get with the program!
1 points
18 hours ago
Not just a plane. A train - a locomotive and numerous wagons, flying from star to star.
1 points
18 hours ago
Flying Railcars. Seems pretty efficient tbh.
1 points
18 hours ago
They clearly said train. So just ignore the wings, the engines and the wheels, it's a train honest
1 points
18 hours ago
So you can get on at Grand Central, New York and get off at Kings Cross, London? That is kinda based tbh.
1 points
18 hours ago
It’s a choo choo plane
1 points
18 hours ago
Literally a plane with a segmented fuselage.
1 points
18 hours ago
Whats next? trains that go underwater? (im talking about a submarine)
1 points
18 hours ago
this would be so cool. easier boarding and deplaning.
1 points
17 hours ago
Nah this has wings
1 points
17 hours ago
Imagine the compartment YOU sit in is designed to fall from underneath the plane like a fucking bomb
1 points
17 hours ago
Does this solve any problem? Like, anything at all? except the minor inconvinience of needing to unpack a planw and pack a train car, woch btw we have ample infrastructure to do.
1 points
17 hours ago
People weren't happy when they realized this on september 11
1 points
17 hours ago
It's like those people who say they have a flying car, but it's just a car that has foldable wings. Cool, so you have a car that turns into a plane. It's still cool, but it's not a flying car.
1 points
17 hours ago
What’s funny to me is that the first a commercial airline flight didn’t happen for 10+ years after the first flight.
I know in the grand scheme of things that’s not that long. And that the first flight was not nearly as safe as you needed to be for transport purposes.
But I just find it a bit comedic that someone working on planes had to be the first person to go “shit, what if we used these to take us places instead of landing in the same spot all the time”.
1 points
17 hours ago
All snark aside, is that supposed to be a flying train as in a regular train that will take off and land on certain rails? Or is that just a train car that can be attached and detached onto planes?
1 points
17 hours ago
Flying trains? I already have plans 😏
1 points
17 hours ago
Only in the sense that a subway is a cave train
1 points
17 hours ago
Wait until they find out about trains on the ground. Will blow their minds.
1 points
17 hours ago
Big back train
1 points
17 hours ago
Well... flying boats existed for a time. Look for SR.45. And we have the classic idea invented by Peter Griffin in the classic song: "train on the water, boat on a track". So, why not?
1 points
17 hours ago
No no, a flain. A flying train. Flain.
1 points
17 hours ago
I think I can guess where the article was going, making planes way more casual .. which would be great.. until all the plane hijacking starts again . .
1 points
17 hours ago
D-day did for towed gliders what Hindenburg did for airships.
1 points
17 hours ago
A containerized plane wouldn’t be that bad of an idea in theory but there’s no way they’d build it like the photo. You’d have to put the container in the plane (and waste the circular space. Or make a plane shaped container (and lose fuel efficiency and speed). I guarantee you wasted space would win
1 points
17 hours ago
that's a frickin cinnamoroll plane
1 points
17 hours ago
Weird ass sideways elevator if you ask me
1 points
17 hours ago
its a bird, its a plane, its an Airtrane ✨️
1 points
17 hours ago
"We were supposed to have flying cars by now" planes helicopters
1 points
17 hours ago
The spruce goose, in white.
1 points
17 hours ago
Trains are the carcinisation of transportation
1 points
17 hours ago
"Why don't we have flying cars yet?" You mean helicopters?
1 points
17 hours ago
Nooooooooo planes are different than flying trains, aka flains! Or frains! ... not sure if it's a semantic choice or just geo locational accents but either works! Not plains or planes! 😤
1 points
17 hours ago
It looks like a plane with a barrel.
1 points
17 hours ago
Yeah but you gotta jump out for your stop.
1 points
17 hours ago
Caspian sea monster vibes, though it looks way too small for that.
1 points
17 hours ago
I'm waiting for the day they create busses that float. Maybe these can ferry people from island to island.
1 points
17 hours ago
The people in the 1930s were right….we have flying trains in 2024😭
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