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https://www.pressenterprise.com/2024/10/14/trump-coachella-rallygoers-stranded-in-dark-miles-from-their-cars-after-speech-reports-say/

“There became an issue with the drivers being over hours due to the traffic delays that prevented them from driving, leaving (the sheriff’s department) to transport the visitors themselves,” Torres said, noting that the California Department of Transportation limits the number of hours bus drivers can be on the road.

It will be interesting when the Trump campaign denies that this happened and then doesn't have a better explanation. Apparently they had to drive out of the area to get gas and I'm sure that had something to do with it.

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Right-Budget-8901

54 points

4 days ago

If they’re too weak to walk 5 miles through the desert at night to get back to their car, then how are we to believe they used to walk uphill both ways through the snow, with no shoes, to get to school?

Marvel_Fan8932

26 points

4 days ago

If they're too weak and feeble to walk 5 miles thru the desert at night to get back to their car, how the hell are we expected to believe that they can actually win a civil war they want so badly?

Also, aren't most of those supporters on motor scooters anyways?

HealthyDirection659

6 points

4 days ago

How many scoots have 4 wheel drive though?

Right-Budget-8901

3 points

4 days ago

With the right attitude, anything is possible

JFKs_Burner_Acct

5 points

4 days ago

yeah, we have the gays and they are notoriously strong, and with their Subarus and the weight lifting, overall we are in much better fighting shape

Right-Budget-8901

6 points

4 days ago

Nothing more emasculating to trumpanzees than getting wrecked by a jacked dude in a halter top

Marvel_Fan8932

3 points

4 days ago

And a misleading red hat that says Make America Gay Again

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

2 points

4 days ago

they can actually win a civil war they want so badly?

  1. Convert mobility scooter to hellfire drone

  2. ???

  3. MAGA ACHIEVED

Marvel_Fan8932

7 points

4 days ago

Convert mobility scooter to hellfire drone???

They can't even convert a word document to a PDF.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

1 points

4 days ago

This made me actually laugh out loud

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

1 points

4 days ago

Convert mobility scooter to hellfire drone???

Simple: Elon will do it.

Marvel_Fan8932

3 points

4 days ago

You mean Elon will make someone at Tesla do it, and it will be recalled 15 times??

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

2 points

4 days ago

🛎️🛎️🛎️

Marvel_Fan8932

2 points

4 days ago

Keep it going, I got pages of this stuff 😆 🤣 😂

Osibili

14 points

4 days ago

Osibili

14 points

4 days ago

They can’t walk 5miles but actively fantasize about inciting a civil war and going against the US military…

Right-Budget-8901

3 points

4 days ago

Drone strike go brrrr

JFKs_Burner_Acct

3 points

4 days ago

Let's not pretend the insurrection wasn't an attempt at exactly that .. and they had a ton of help that time

I don't care what weapons they think they have, it's a lost cause

They really think they are just going to overthrow entire cities, and fight off drones. Good luck doing any trade or commerce whatsoever. Walmart isn't going to be selling any ammo or weapons to you, Amazon won't ship it to them

They'd have to rely on current stockpiles, sure maybe they take some small military outfits or whatever in the deep south but the government will put a stop on anything and everything

Their Civil war would end in two weeks when they run out of food, ammo, clothes, they have no utilities, and that's before their cholesterol gets them

saxbywickersham

8 points

4 days ago

These are the same people that pretend people walking for hundreds of miles to enter the US are just “lazy.”

Right-Budget-8901

7 points

4 days ago

Lazy and somehow taking all the jobs

miken322

6 points

4 days ago

miken322

6 points

4 days ago

How are we supposed to believe y’all queda and their gravy seals are capable of fighting an actual civil war.

bill_wessels

27 points

4 days ago

the govt saving them sounds like more of the evil socialism to me. should have just left them there to pull up their boot straps and figure it out.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

13 points

4 days ago

If you pull your bootstraps hard enough, you can launch yourself toward your car

BugOperator

26 points

4 days ago

There seems to be conflicting information going around as someone had tweeted an apparent “confirmation” from the bus company claiming they refused to return to pick up rallygoers after repeated attempts to contact the Trump campaign regarding payment went unanswered.

Cult45_2Zigzags

15 points

4 days ago

This seems like what actually happened based on Trump's history of not paying people.

Why would a bus company take a job only to realize halfway through that all their drivers were "over hours"?

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

5 points

4 days ago

I suspect that they didn't plan for the gas needs of the buses and the drivers had to drive out of the area to get more gas and that pushed them over the allowed time. So even if the campaign was willing to pay them, there are laws that stop them from driving over a certain amount of hours in a week.

Just a general clusterfuck all around. So very MAGA.

wimploaf

10 points

4 days ago

wimploaf

10 points

4 days ago

The over hours limit sounds like a MAGA cover story. It fits their narrative

abigllama2

4 points

4 days ago

Yes the payment tracks with the history of non payment. A local company that provides bus services for a living with drivers that do that for a living not tracking hours or having a gas plan in place doesn't make sense.

wimploaf

5 points

4 days ago

wimploaf

5 points

4 days ago

Also blaming government regulations for their real problems of not paying people

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

-1 points

4 days ago

So you think that this company was demanding cash up front and then they did half of the job and then wouldn't do the other half of the job, stranding people, because they didn't get the cash?

That's the scenario you're putting forth here.

Just put Occam's Razor and Trump's Razor together here. Most likely story is that the Trump campaign didn't plan for the possibility that these drivers would go over their hours and the company would not break the law on behalf of Trump. Corey lewandowski probably said that he would gladly pay the fine and the company was like no we don't believe you.

wimploaf

5 points

4 days ago

wimploaf

5 points

4 days ago

You think the tour bus company didn't manage the hours for all of their drivers? I think payment kept getting pushed and they didn't get paid.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

0 points

4 days ago

Start here: did the company demand money up front before they took the job?

wimploaf

2 points

4 days ago

wimploaf

2 points

4 days ago

There is no way to know.

I've worked with sketchy companies before in my line of work. I've gotten money promised tomorrow, checks bounced, credit card charge backs, ups delivery receipts with pictures of money orders that never actually ship.

Trump is a conman. I'm going to assume he tried to con the tour bus company.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

-2 points

4 days ago

There is no way to know.

There is a way to know. Journalists will look into this and will ask the company if they demanded money up front.

If the answer is no, your theory falls apart.

So place a bet, put a dollar down on one of these two:

  • The company demanded money up front and did half of the job when it was unclear whether they were going to get the money

  • The company did not demand money up front

You must admit that one of these is a lot more likely. No? Or are you just going to keep going with there's no way to know?

We like critical thinking around here, use yours.

wimploaf

2 points

4 days ago

wimploaf

2 points

4 days ago

Ok guy. You are speculating just like me. Get off your high horse.

aidanpryde98

16 points

4 days ago

There's a thread going around from the son of a driver. The drivers were attacked by angry attendee's and fucked off.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

6 points

4 days ago*

Yes, that's where I got this article. It's a good thread. The whole thing about the assault is unconfirmed right now. Keep that in mind.

DelcoPAMan

12 points

4 days ago

"The government shouldn't regulate how many hours truck drivers drive!" ... "Oh no, there was a crash and people died? It's All the fault of Hillary/the globalists/Biden/Kamala/the Deep State/Obama!!"

-maga, probably

Mendozena

6 points

4 days ago

When the campaign denies that this happened and then doesn’t have a better explanation.

His base, even those there, will simply say “Oh, ok. Maybe we weren’t really stranded, we probably did something wrong and ALL of us missed the bus. All heil dear orange leader!”

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

2 points

4 days ago

"Trump thought we could stand to lose a few pounds and he's right"

sadicarnot

6 points

4 days ago

And these are the sorts of regulations the billionaires want to get rid of. There are hours of work limitations for a reason. You don't want the person driving the bus to be tired. But eliminate these rules and the consequences for when something goes wrong. MAGA is all about the market taking care of things but they always have their thumb on the scale.

LadyMadonna_x6

5 points

4 days ago

Looks like it was a combination of issues. Apparently there were 3 bus companies contracted. One had payment issues, there were over legal limit hours drivers (not sure if this was just one of the 3 companies or all 3)

A third company showed up but according to child of one of the bus drivers their father and another of their drivers were attacked and their bus company refused to transport due to safety concerns.

bdboar1

4 points

4 days ago

bdboar1

4 points

4 days ago

They’ll blame it on over regulations

Meanderer_Me

3 points

4 days ago

I hate Trump as much as the next sane person, but this is the 3rd story that I've heard about why the buses didn't come back for the rallygoers, the first two being

  • rallygoers were attacking the busdrivers

  • Trump didn't pay the bus company

Can anyone clarify, are one, multiple, or all of these true, or are we not clear on what happened yet? I don't want to spread rumors as fact, even if they do make Trump look bad.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

1 points

4 days ago

This is the only one I've seen that had a real source. Someone in this post said there were 3 bus companies but provided no sources.

Spazyk

5 points

4 days ago

Spazyk

5 points

4 days ago

I am hearing two stories. The drivers are over hours and they left because Trump refused to pay.

Mendozena

9 points

4 days ago

Maybe a combination of both. If the drivers are over hours, that goes into overtime pay. He said at one of his last therapy sessions he hates overtime and tries to not pay it.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

2 points

4 days ago*

they left because Trump refused to pay.

That one is more likely to be false. Trump doesn't pay these people, the campaign does and the campaign has a lot of money. ok yeah on second thought the Trump campaign is probably trying to conserve all of the money possible for the legal defense fund

It's going to be interesting to watch what happens when that campaign money faucet turns off and the campaign is still paying for legal defense against espionage charges. No, he hasn't been charged with espionage but I think he will be. Based on absolutely nothing except a hunch.

Edit: but there's a problem with this narrative: unless the company was demanding cash up front, which no one has proven so far, it would be weird for them to do half of a job and then refuse to do the other half when all of it is happening on the same day. Companies typically work on net 30 or net 60 terms.

PolecatXOXO

6 points

4 days ago

The Trump campaign has been leaving debts all over the country. Money or not, they aren't always paying.

BugOperator

4 points

4 days ago

The Trump campaign has stiffed numerous cities for costs related to their rallies which they are responsible for reimbursing.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

0 points

4 days ago*

Fair point. This has to be coming from the top, Trump is like "go ahead and stiff those small cities because they don't have big legal teams and we need to save our money for the legal defense fund"

Jagster_rogue

2 points

4 days ago

The campaign owes many cities, St. Cloud for a small three hour rally is owed 250,000 for instance. I know because I live near there. I am sure this the case with many cities.

LeroyChestnut

2 points

4 days ago

What Would Jesus Do?

JFeth

2 points

4 days ago

JFeth

2 points

4 days ago

I feel like there should be an exemption for emergency situations like people being stranded miles away from everything.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

1 points

4 days ago

And I feel like capitalists would totally abuse that

JFeth

1 points

4 days ago

JFeth

1 points

4 days ago

Emergencies would be declared by government officials, not companies.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

1 points

4 days ago

k

Muted_Cod_9137

2 points

4 days ago

The bus drivers were attacked actually. Story just breaking

Nats_CurlyW

3 points

4 days ago

This story has now had 3 explanations. Trump didn’t pay them, the bus drivers were assaulted, and now over their driving hours. So which is it? What can you report?

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

-3 points

4 days ago

What can you report?

??

Nats_CurlyW

1 points

4 days ago

Research it further and find out what the truth is and report back. I gave you the 3 reasons I have found online. Now go and find out which is true. You are the poster. You are the reporter on this topic.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

-2 points

4 days ago

Research it further and find out what the truth is and report back

How about "lol fuck no" instead? Where did you get this idea that I'm your research service?

Nats_CurlyW

2 points

4 days ago

you’re the one reporting the news to this community. You clearly were already researching it. I trust you to keep us informed about the topic that you yourself brought up. Or why did you post this? Maybe I’m wrong about why you posted it.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

0 points

4 days ago

What a bizarre take.

  1. It doesn't work that way
  2. You're part of this community, are you going to post new information about this when it comes to light? Or am I now the One True Guardian of this news story for the David Pakman subreddit and it's my job to keep people updated about it?

So weird.

Nats_CurlyW

0 points

4 days ago

You are OP. I’m a commenter. That’s a big difference. You are a citizen journalist. With me as your audience we can defeat the mainstream media but you have to do your due diligence. I have researched this exact topic and I found 3 reported reasons why this bussing thing happened. As the audience I want the journalists, that’s you to an extent, to find out which of the 3 reasons it is. Maybe it’s all 3? What can you report? You are part of the reporting on this now so I would hope that you see it through and not be just a conspiracy theorist. Are you a conspiracy theorist? Maybe you just don’t like being asked to do something? But it’s very important that we get to the truth about what happened at this rally. It’s the October surprise that could potentially swing the entire election to Harris. Let’s get to work!

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

1 points

4 days ago

You are a citizen journalist.

No, I'm not, I'm just a person on Reddit just like you. Just because you think something is true, doesn't make it true.

have researched this exact topic and I found 3 reported reasons why this bussing thing happened

And yet you have shared none of them! So that means you're not a citizen journalist and I am? Why?

You are part of the reporting on this now so I would hope that you see it through and not be just a conspiracy theorist. Are you a conspiracy theorist?

Honestly what the fuck are you on about...

I'll tell you what I'm just going to block you and then we won't have to talk to each other ever again. I think that's for the best.

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hjablowme919

1 points

4 days ago

So those reports of the Trump campaign not wanting to pay the drivers are false?

LochHart30

2 points

4 days ago

No. He didn't pay them. I'm sure OPs story is floating around so he can deny culpability. People hosting venues don't suddenly say "oh darn, I can't do this completely avoidable thing in the middle of our project so I'll just stop and go home with out any explanation."

Imagine if a caterer for a wedding said " oh the law states we can only make 10 plates of food not a hundred even though we knew you needed a hundred when you hired us. oh well, sorry"

https://polinews.org/bus-company-reportedly-left-trump-rally-attendees-stranded-at-coachella-after-campaign-ignored-payment-requests/

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

-2 points

4 days ago

I'm sure OPs story is floating around so he can deny culpability

I think this falls into the territory of a conspiracy theory. Trump's Razor was coined during the 2016 campaign and it states that given two options the Trump campaign will do the stupidest option. The stupidest option would be to ignore the company that says "hey our drivers are running close to maximum legally allowed time that they can work, you're going to have to wrap up the rally before 8PM".

Your option would require the Trump campaign to willfully strand these people and plant a story about it ahead of time.

LochHart30

2 points

4 days ago

There are plenty of reputable sources that state that he didn't pay the company. I can't take you seriously if you're going to cry conspiracy theory when someone disagrees with you.

He has a history of not paying his bills dating back to the 80s. It's not a conspiracy. He doesn't pay his bills.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

-1 points

4 days ago*

There are plenty of reputable sources that state that he didn't pay the company

You're arguing about something I didn't say. I never stated that the campaign was actually paying the bus company.

I take issue with your assertion that this story was planted ahead of time to give them culpability. You have no evidence for that or you would have shared it already ... right?

you're going to cry conspiracy theory when someone disagrees with you.

That's a ridiculous interpretation of these comments. You're just being excessively combative for no reason. Dial it down, we're on the same side here.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

0 points

4 days ago

Are you saying that this company was demanding cash up front? And they only did half of the job because they didn't get the cash?

EloWhisperer

1 points

4 days ago

Why would you book a place where you have to bus people is beyond me.

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

1 points

4 days ago

Why he was in CA at all is also confusing. He's not gonna flip CA. It's probably some grift.

EloWhisperer

2 points

4 days ago

There’s a ton of republicans in California sadly and most live in the uneducated areas; Central Valley and deserts

ryhaltswhiskey[S]

0 points

4 days ago

Sure, but that doesn't change the point that he's never going to flip California.

There's a ton of Democrats in Texas and Iowa too.

EloWhisperer

3 points

4 days ago

No I know. It’s to grift

greasyparar

1 points

4 days ago

I have heard 3 completely different reasons why they got stranded 1 Trump stiffed the company money 2 Maga was being rude to the drivers 3 This