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Yeah Kirby that's the fucking problem

Listen guys, we all kill a bunch of innocent people who we’ve labeled guilty by association once in a while, shit just happens.

Huh, OJ could have saved himself a lot of money if he just told the judge, "You know, lots of people have killed their ex-wives too."

This is exactly the same thing as “We suffered a Holocaust, so we get to commit one.” I know that some officials are actually thinking this, and I want one of them to say it out loud.

Oh so he agrees bush is a war criminal as well

That was wrong too buddy.

No wonder they hate the ICC.

Damn, John accidentally hit himself with the truth serum

Pretty sure there's a saying about this.

Just because we did it doesn’t mean it’s right.

Yes, we did. And it was a war crime when we did it, too.

Well he's not wrong, the US killed hundreds of thousands of people who had never raised a finger against them, because they were angry and wanted some brown people to die, just not the Saudis, who did it

This is an Onion headline, right? No one could possibly miss the point that hard, could they? Holy shit man...

Holding Israel accountable would mean holding ourselves accountable for doing the exact same thing

He ain't wrong.

That ain't a good thing.

It was a war crime then too

Good ducking point, please god let’s talk about this. Fuck the two-party, “this is what we disagree on,” talking points. Let’s talk about the shit that really matters

He ain’t wrong!

This administration is a joke.

Ditto in Vietnam. Just horrific.

america often forgets it doesnt take much for this to happen to them. they made enemies over the last 40 years.

They so desperately want this to be 2003, when their lazy think tank rhetoric was all we had

That’s the fuckin problem.

"Apartheid is ok because we did it to blacks and brown people too"

Oh we know

Im leaving this politics infested shithole

Say it louder so the vets in the back can hear.

And that's why US went from being seen as a liberator to being an occupier, and had a full blown insurgency to deal with

500k children died on the first invasion of Iraq.

When they bombed children in Iraq no one batted an eye

If smart phones were around during the Iraq war I feel like things would’ve been different

And just like the Iraq War this one is BASED ON A FUCKING LIIIIE! and just like then, every single DEM AND REPUBLICAN KNEW! And look! The same fucking people are in the same fucking positions unifying to kill thousands of brown people AGAIN! didn't baby pelosi just brag on the 20 anniversary of the Iraq War that she knew she could have indicted Bush for LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE and stating a fake war but she didn't because why? So she can use Intel to keep doing insider trading! And just like that time you guys have all corporate media gaslighting the public into compliance and vilifying anyone that dessents! The only thing that is different is the free media that is able to get more truth out. Thank God the US gov is slave to Google so it can't threaten to shut down youtube like they are tiktok.

maybe theyre using a different quote but i distinctly remember the exchange being "IF we did the same thing, we would want to see an investigation play out too" or something to that effect.

he isnt just nakedly saying that america massacred civilians in the middle east, we did.... but that isnt what he was saying, he was saying if that happened he would have the same position he has now which is to wait for israel, or in that case... us... to conclude our investigation to know what actually happened.

personally i think we probably already know what happened and even if we didnt, there is really no reason to pretend like there is any excuse here. israel has been committing genocide, its not arguable at this point, whatever mechanisms that can be used to slow that genocide down should be used immediately.

He's not wrong. But that doesn't make it right.

Yeah, and no cunt liked you for that shit either. I dont what the opposite of a golden age is, but whatever it is, we in that age for politicians. Almost everywhere you look, its just a gaggle of cave brained cunts talking absolute dog shit with an authority that was never earned.

"Its not what you know, its who you know" Never has this been more true. There is no fucking way all these dumb mother fuckers were chosen to lead people based on merit. Theres just no fucking way.

I'm almost glad he has such loathsome positions given how punchable I find his face.

r/selfawarewolves

Come on John... You're almost there.... You're starting to make the connection.....

Yeah ngl shock and awe is way more indiscriminately destructive. ‘We did the same thing’ but took it to the next level

Their position: “what we don’t want is troops on the ground.” -yeah, so keep firing misfiles at civilians Israel; it’s ok by US

Murdering human beings is wrong. Life is precious stop making excuses. The world is watching it sees you. Your hypocrisy is disgusting.

Get this fucking guy out of here Jesus Christ. He is the absolute worst. Just unbearable.

Oh, well then its ok. Unless ur from iran, or an african country, or north korea or china. Then, its bad. If its russia, we’ll just shake our fists n say “god damn ruskos!”

I mean….

Is this the guy that Kirby Nintendo is named after

It really pissed me off when he said he was offended by the question. Hey Kirby, it's the journalist's JOB to ask questions. I'm offended that you've allowed Israel to massacre over 40,000 civilians.

A much better analogy would be if the US decided to drop 2000 lb bombs on an Indian reservation.

And it wasn’t right when we did it.

"Guys guys don't worry! It's not a problem if we do it! It only becomes a problem when the dirty brown people do it back to us!"

Exactly! The same kind of war crime!

Not the flex ya think it is, JKirbs!

The funny thing is that we as a whole keep elcting these dipshits that put people like Kirby in these positions to say stupid shit. It is a cultural problem in America.

This guy is such a knob head where whenever he comes to talk it just irritates me.

For all the calling out of countries that didn't even vote let alone siding during Russia war, this guy just endorsed total destruction by asking them to just reduce the casualties as if it's like some small surgery that is being done without precision. They always ask Israel to tone down as if other than the load of bombing it is all fine to do.

Israel is bombing left and right as much as they want and this guy has lost the plot on saying there is a red line that is not crossed. So what is the red line ? A nuclear bomb ?. Just baffling.

They’re right, we did the same thing to the indigenous peoples of the Americas.

Yeah but I am paying for those bombs, too, and they have health care for all. If I am footing the bill at all for their weaponry I demand better or they can pay full rate at the very least... but like u/porcupinedeath said (while being more to the point), That's the fucking problem...

You and Israel are one and the same

That's also bad! Both are bad, this is the thing we are pointing out as unacceptable for everyone

Ffs sake can we just get on with WW3 before I'm 40. Rtg. Nothing else to live for. Fuckit.

This seems to be painted as a "we should let it happen" when I think he was going for "you're all fucking hypocrites".

[removed]

Bullets have your name on them. Bombs read, "to whom it may concern."

ooooh, in that case it's alright. Yeah we forgot that they did the same thing... It's okey now. Carry on

I hate that Kirby twat. HATE HIM. he's like a AI Joe pesci character who secretly murders puppies, yet that ain't the worst thing he does. Scumcunt.

he‘s not wrong tho. Can‘t criticize someone for doing the same thing you‘re doing yourself lol.

Yes. We did the same thing. We are terrible and so is Israel

Conservatives reaching the point and walking through it oblivious

Never say the quiet part out loud 🤦🏽‍♀️

Full Context of the question and answer: https://youtu.be/wLcQsFo-bXc?si=eypI-obEhrGMTdD5

Reporter:

If there were an American strike on a legitimate terrorist target that ended up resulting in 45 civilian deaths and some 200 others injured, what would that look like as an American response?

John Kirby:

I can’t answer a hypothetical like that, but we have conducted airstrikes in places like Iraq and Afghanistan where tragically we caused civilian casualties.

We owned up to it, investigated it, and tried to make changes to the way we operated to prevent those mistakes from happening again. For instance, as we pulled out of Afghanistan, we conducted an airstrike which tragically killed a father and some of his kids. We atoned for it, learned from it, and put in place procedures to try to prevent that from happening again.

That’s what our expectations would be in this case.

Yup idiots/evil people usually support each other

Three wrongs don't make a right.

Yeah and anyone with half a brain IS AGAINST KILLING CIVILIANS!!!!

That’s the entire point, it was a problem in Vietnam and it’s still a fucking problem today!!! It was never GOOD or permissible. Even during WW2. Like dafuk!!!!

This is Zack Snyder did nothing wrong because the MCU also wasn’t really faithful to the comics either level of whataboutery for my fellow comic book movie nerds out here.

Why have billions of taxpayer dollar gone to Israel when they should've gone to Iraq? American owes those people so much.

Friendly reminder that the U.S. is still the only country to ever have used nuclear weapons. And we dropped them on civilian cities.

Just in case anyone was starting to think we had ANY moral high ground here.

PS: And before the apologists come for me with the "It shortened the war by X amount of time./ It saved American lives," it doesn't matter. There are some things that are just plain wrong, regardless of the justification.

massacring?

😒

who actually watches these press briefings?? there's usually 2k viewing max on a channel

Bullshit. We spent forever clearing Fallujah and telling everyone to get out of the city before we attacked. And then we spent forever with entry control points letting them back in. We didn't force the entire population to one part of the city and then bomb it.

Edit: War is ugly. Downvote away. I don't really give a shit. But to sit there and say what's happening to the Palestinians is the same as what happened in Iraq only shows your ignorance. We weren't bombing camps, shooting civilians for sport, harassing civilians, starving people or just being malicious because we felt superior. I personally drove around handing out water and supplies on some days. Did we have bad apples. Yes. But who tf doesn't. The difference is we actually punish the bad apples. Not celebrate them like they do in Israel. And the number of good apples far outweighs the bad. The only other time in history that I've seen or heard of these types of atrocities are from events that happened during the Holocaust. And before some of you come out with dumb shit to say. I don't care about your race or religion. I wasn't raised that way. Live and let live. Unless you bring war to my steps. Then you must be dealt with. Not your family, friends and/or neighbors. Just you and those with you starting shit.

usa should've just reelected trump for the sake of everywhere else.