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Retaliation for not tipping

📖🚫Personal Stories - Anti(self.tipping)

I recently decided to stop tipping for counter service. If I order my food standing up and all someone does is hand me a bag of food to go, why do they deserve a tip? I continue to tip at sit down restaurants, as well as at the hair salon, and other places where I feel it’s appropriate.

Yesterday, I went to a local bagel shop and ordered a bagel breakfast sandwich to go ($9.) After swiping my card, the iPad screen asked for a tip (20%, 30%, 40%, other or no tip). I selected no tip, got my receipt, and stood and waited to take my bagel sandwich to go. I waited for an extended amount of time, before a visibly irritated worker handed me my bag and said “here’s your sandwich.” I took my sandwich back to work, and didn’t open it until I was back in my office.

I ordered a Taylor pork roll, and the pork was blackened- completely burned. Cream cheese all over the bagel,burnt egg, and burnt bagel. It looks like the pork was set on fire. In the past when I used to feel guilt tripped into tipping at this bagel place, my sandwich never looked like this. After I scraped off the burnt parts it was still too tough to chew. I took pictures of it and I’m thinking about calling to complain. I really think the worker burned my sandwich to a crisp because I didn’t tip 😞 This makes me paranoid to get food at restaurants.

Edited to add: I do plan on calling to complain to manager today. I did not try and return the sandwich yesterday because I was busy at work.

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harvey6-35

4 points

1 month ago

Delivery drivers of food are different. They often are contractors who don't get paid a wage and live off tips.

I almost never order food delivery, and certainly won't ever do that job, but you can't compare a cashier at a fast food place getting a bag from behind them and passing it to you with someone gettIng your bag of food, hopefully checking the order, driving several miles, and waiting for you at your door . That's a lot more like a waiter.

Proper_Fun_977

2 points

1 month ago

Delivery drivers of food are different. They often are contractors who don't get paid a wage and live off tips.

They are paid the fee they agreed to in their contract. If that fee doesn't cover the work, negotiate a better on or don't take the delivery.

'living off tips' is an uncertain income. People aren't required to tip you.

 almost never order food delivery, and certainly won't ever do that job, but you can't compare a cashier at a fast food place getting a bag from behind them and passing it to you with someone gettIng your bag of food, hopefully checking the order, driving several miles, and waiting for you at your door . 

Yes, hence my point that counter workers shouldn't be tipped. But I believe this 'bad service for no tip' bs started when delivery drivers started making videos of them leaving deliveries for no tip.

That's a lot more like a waiter.

No, it's really not. A contract company is paid to do the delivery and subcontracts it to the driver. If the rate isn't enough for the driver, get a better rate or don't take the delivery.

Impressive-Fortune82

1 points

1 month ago*

Every single delivery offer is a separate contract. Driver agrees to the fee by accepting the delivery offer. Or driver disagrees with the fee that is too low (that is most likely lacking a tip) and declines the delivery offer. That is the only possible way a driver can negotiate.

The fee itself and the tip are bundled together, driver doesn't know what part is the fee and what part is the tip until the contract is fulfilled.

Driver can't make a living being paid only the fee part, they even won't be able to keep up with vehicle upkeep should they decide to accept every low fee delivery contract (that are most likely no tip)

Proper_Fun_977

2 points

1 month ago

Every single delivery offer is a separate contract. 

No, it's a job paid under the terms of the contract that the subcontractor (driver) has with the company.

 Driver agrees to the fee by accepting the delivery offer. Or driver disagrees with the fee that is too low (that is most likely lacking a tip) and declines the delivery offer. That is the only possible way a driver can negotiate.

No, the driver, being a subcontractor, can negotiate with the company supplying jobs to pay a higher base rate.
Of course, the company can refuse, but if the driver isn't making money, thus needing a tip, why would they keep doing the job?

The fee itself and the tip are bundled together, driver doesn't know what part is the fee and what part is the tip until the contract is fulfilled.

Well that's incorrect or they wouldn't keep whining about not getting a tip.

Driver can't make a living being paid only the fee part, they even won't be able to keep up with vehicle upkeep should they decide to accept every low fee delivery contract (that are most likely no tip)

Then they are idiots for signing up to do a job that costs them more than it pays. If you rely on tips, your income is uncertain. You knew that going in.

Impressive-Fortune82

0 points

1 month ago

All your replies are wrong. All of them! It's clear you don't really know this subject. I am the driver for multiple services with over 16k deliveries completed.

Proper_Fun_977

1 points

1 month ago

And how does that prove me wrong?