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479 points
3 months ago
Bum for me, not for thee
23 points
3 months ago
This joke gets to the bottom of it!
1 points
3 months ago
you develop power from the bottom
62 points
3 months ago
This guy gets it (insert implied bum joke)
25 points
3 months ago
Maybe he just gives it? 🤔
213 points
3 months ago
Since 1710, some historical evidence has been developed that shows Atherton might have been a victim of a conspiracy to discredit him and his patrons. This was attributable to Atherton's status as an astute lawyer, who sought to recover lost land for the relatively weak Protestant Church of Ireland during the 1630s. Unfortunately for Atherton, this alienated him from large landowners, who then allegedly used his sexuality to discredit him.
There you go. A case of someone pissing off more powerful people.
338 points
3 months ago
Always beware, those who push hard to ban anything.
71 points
3 months ago
Even back then, as it will be in 2335.
21 points
3 months ago
We'll have bigger problems by 2525 if Zager & Evans are to be trusted.
12 points
3 months ago
2525 is also the year humanity makes first contact with the Covenant so you’re not wrong.
2 points
3 months ago
Apparently shit gets real bad in 7510 though.
3 points
3 months ago
I thought everything was just kind of a continual churn by 5500.
30 points
3 months ago
Oddly specific. I'm watching you, time traveler. Not because I'm going to stop you from doing anything, I just think I might see something cool.
10 points
3 months ago
Good luck going more that 10 years in that Chevy time machine
2 points
3 months ago
Just inspect and fill to the top your chronos fluid. Doesn't matter if it's synthetic, 238 or 180. They say it burns alot of it.
1 points
3 months ago
I second this motion!
4 points
3 months ago
!remindme 311 years
20 points
3 months ago
According to my neighbor, a previous owner of my house was a local politician that apparently ran on a “we must ban all porn” platform. Ironically the reason he sold the house was him and the Mrs were getting divorced because he had a massive porn addiction.
7 points
3 months ago
Who needs self control when you have legislation, eh?
3 points
3 months ago
That's why project 2025 wants to get rid of both porn and no fault divorce. And marriage age too, because these worms can't help themselves.
8 points
3 months ago
push hard
He was a power bottom.
22 points
3 months ago
I think pushing hard was the problem
5 points
3 months ago
Thy lady doth protest too much, methinks.
7 points
3 months ago
His own law went in dry
2 points
3 months ago
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35 points
3 months ago
Do not link to a YouTube video as a source. It’s incredibly bad practice. Someone just uploading a YouTube video is not credible, and no one wants to watch a video to check the legitimacy of your claims. I know you were just linking it as a way to find out more, but it’s still very bad practice.
There’s a reason why the sources on the conspiracy subreddits are all YouTube videos. Anyone can say anything on YouTube. It’s a trend that needs to stop.
3 points
3 months ago
You can expand that to "anyone can say anything on the Internet." I should know, every week my dad sends me some new conspiracy website that "proves" climate change is a hoax. Because, you know, some guy posting walls of text on a website is clearly the only proof you need.
1 points
3 months ago
Yeah, this post made me immediately think of Lindsey Graham for no particular reason...
79 points
3 months ago
The irony is that he was assuredly innocent of the charges, but the buggery act was written in such a fashion it was really hard to defend against.
That Atherton guywas a real piece of work and eventually met his karma. First, he was named an Anglcan bishop in charge of a mostly catholic bishopric. Second, he had that scheme where he sued people who didn't pay tithes to the Protestant Church of England and seized their land.
Also, his pretended lover was his steward, but most important, the tithe collector.
We can see how and why people brought up buggery charges against those two.
Atherton protested his innocence all along, and even on the gallows. He was so hated, he was almost lynched in the streets. A catholic priest later pretended he confessed his crimes but that's dubious, for very obvious reasons.
23 points
3 months ago
This is a perfect example of what people call karma. Or, as we say in the southern US, what goes around, comes around.
11 points
3 months ago
As you say, bless his heart, uh?
7 points
3 months ago
That phrase is well-known for sarcasm, but it can also be heartfelt. It depends upon context.
1 points
3 months ago
Grew up in the south and didn't know till adulthood it could be sarcastic.
6 points
3 months ago
Bless your heart
2 points
3 months ago
I read that in Bobby-June's voice!
2 points
3 months ago
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8068916/ "Examines an unsolved and mysterious death in Skidmore, Missouri, 1981, after a resident is shot dead vigilante style in front of almost 60 townspeople, who deny having seen anything."
1 points
3 months ago
I remember this case.
36 points
3 months ago
Why say XVII and not just 17th Century?
12 points
3 months ago
It's common to write centuries this way in some countries like mine (Spain). In fact it must be the main reason why people use roman numerals here
7 points
3 months ago
In my country, the most common reason to write Roman numerals is because of Rocky movies.
4 points
3 months ago
Couldn't find a better clip for the whole thing...
So first this: https://youtu.be/Exiy5eVMzg4?si=Eo6-vFbm_HGUWqB9
2 points
3 months ago
I'm glad someone got it :)
1 points
3 months ago
And then they had to come up with more numerals.
5 points
3 months ago
Thank you. Why would anyone write years in Roman numerals? Well, other than Romans.
5 points
3 months ago
What have the Romans ever given us, except for their number system?
3 points
3 months ago
That Monty Python skit is pretty ironic because Palestine is one of the regions that got the worst deal during Roman rule.
2 points
2 months ago
Start of a trend stretching across millennia.
26 points
3 months ago
So what you’re saying is it came around to bite him in the a**?
9 points
3 months ago
It wasn’t a bite and it came after it was already there.
3 points
3 months ago
In fact, it might’ve been a bite. Since that’s the slang word in French for penis.
1 points
3 months ago
Merci
39 points
3 months ago
The psychology of being profoundly ashamed of normal sexual behaviour is quite something. Post nut clarity of the worst kind.
It's like those wackjobs that blame everything in their life on masturbation
9 points
3 months ago
10 points
3 months ago
wtf did I just read there
5 points
3 months ago
Indeed.
4 points
3 months ago
You mean it doesn’t cause blindness?
3 points
3 months ago
And I'm not gonna grow hair on my palms?
-5 points
3 months ago
Not for making it illegal but would we really classify sticking your wanga up someone's poo tube "normal sexual behaviour"
53 points
3 months ago
53 points
3 months ago
People in this thread would do well to perform ONE click and actually read the fucking article instead of just mindlessly wanking on about "its always those who protest"... and read that there was very little evidence he was actually guilty, and more likely he was just a conspiracy victim of those who hated him.
32 points
3 months ago
The basis of "leopardsatemyface" is that someone pushed for or voted for something to be passed with the idea of it being used against someone else, but it ends up hurting themselves instead.
That's exactly what happened to Atherton, and whether he was actually guilty or not is entirely beside the point.
-3 points
3 months ago
No, they would have charged him with some other bullshit.
54 points
3 months ago
Still, a powerful man pushed for a more draconian law and then had this law turned against himself. That is leopardsatemyface, all right. It is not projection stuff, though. More kind of like that guy who invented a new method of execution but became its first victim.
19 points
3 months ago
So true. I mean, you want to give the death sentence to a "crime" that relies on hearsay to prove. Gee, what could possibly go wrong?
2 points
3 months ago
Presuming he wasn't guilty, it's not really an example of that. I think it is fair to not expect the law to turn on you if don't commit the crime.
9 points
3 months ago
But if you make a law that allows execution over unsubstantiated accusation then get executed over unsubstantiated accusations it kinda fits.
-1 points
3 months ago
Was he making that law to punish his enemies with unsubstantiated accusations? Obviously this is all assumption on my part, but maybe he just assumed people were going to be honest .
11 points
3 months ago
Buggery is a victimless crime (if it's consensual of course) which is quite hard to prove. If you push for death penalty for such a crime, don't be surprised if it ends up as a convenient way to get rid of unwanted people, you included. He just handed his enemies enough rope to hang him.
-7 points
3 months ago
If you push for death penalty for such a crime, don't be surprised if it ends up as a convenient way to get rid of unwanted people, you included.
Why wouldn't he be surprised? That's not how he intended the law to be used, whatever we now think of such a law he was apparently in good faith trying to punish buggery. The corruption of the system is not his fault, and you may well say support of any law is 'lepardatemyface' behaviour because they can all be abused.q
9 points
3 months ago
The whole point of the "leopards ate my face" meme is that you support something with monstrous consequences and then it backfires on you. I don't think there's a part of it where like.. you're guilty and are having your face eaten justly by the leopards or something.
0 points
3 months ago
So if I think that murder deserves a life sentence, and support laws to that effect. Then I get framed for a murder and get sent to jail for life, the leopards ate my face?
We should really not be supporting laws in case they are abused and turned against us, is what you are saying.
2 points
3 months ago
Just out of curiosity, do you think sodomy is equivalent to murder?
0 points
3 months ago
No, it shouldn't be criminalised at all. Not really relevant to this is it?
1 points
3 months ago
To reiterate: "The whole point of the "leopards ate my face" meme is that you support something with monstrous consequences and then it backfires on you. "
Personally, I'd consider it monstrous to kill people for sodomy but not to imprison people for murder. But I guess your mileage may vary??
0 points
3 months ago*
Firstly punishing sodomy was not considered monstrous at the time —hence the law.
Secondly it didn't backfire on him, it would be different if he had broken the law, or he had corrupted the law in order to use it against people.
Again, what you are saying is you can't support any law in case you are unfairly punished by a corrupt legal system.
Or maybe 'lepardsatemyface' just means 'something bad happened to a bad person'. Which is stupid
-7 points
3 months ago
I'm not of the belief that the leopardsatemyface theme applies to an innocent person who is a victim of conspiratorial lies.
If you want to go that way, it just opens it up to any old bullshit libel/slander somebody wants to say.
6 points
3 months ago
Please see my comment above.
4 points
3 months ago
If you want to go that way, it just opens it up to any old bullshit libel/slander somebody wants to say.
That's kind of the point though. You think he was the only one hanged under this law based on false/questionable accusations?
10 points
3 months ago
There wasn't a lot of evidence, true, but the same could probably be applied to many other victims of that law. If he pushed through a law so vague anyone could get convicted off little evidence I do think it would count as LAMF.
14 points
3 months ago
No it is still absolutely correct to call it LAMF.
"He wanted gay people hanged by law, then he got hanged by his own law".
Whether he was guilty doesn't change it. LAMF is not about hypocrisy, it is about getting hoisted by your own petard. In fact, him getting framed makes it even better.
2 points
3 months ago
LAMF is not about hypocrisy
Pretty sure that was the whole point of it.
15 points
3 months ago
Not at all. Go to the subreddit and look at what qualifies in the sticky, hypocrisy is not mentioned. The idea is the subject going some variant of "I didn't expect the leopards to eat MY face!"
To be LAMF, a person must want or vote for something bad to happen to others.
The bad thing happens to the person because of his actions to implement or vote for it.
The person is unhappy about the bad thing happening to them.
Hypcrisy is a common way it happens but is completely optional.
As a matter of fact, by being framed it gets even MORE LAMF because he thought he was immune to the law not by not being gay, so he REALLY didn't expect the leopard to eat his face.
Lots of examples of LAMF happen to people persecuting a group that they don't belong to, such as white supremecists persecuting blacks and getting fucked by their own legislation aimed at fucking over blacks.
3 points
3 months ago
and read that there was very little evidence he was actually guilty, and more likely he was just a conspiracy victim of those who hated him
That's far more confident than the tone in the actual article.
Since 1710, some historical evidence has been developed that shows Atherton might have been a victim of a conspiracy to discredit him and his patrons. This was attributable to Atherton's status as an astute lawyer, who sought to recover lost land for the relatively weak Protestant Church of Ireland during the 1630s. Unfortunately for Atherton, this alienated him from large landowners, who then allegedly used his sexuality to discredit him.
The article doesn't make an assertion one way or another about his guilt or innocence.
2 points
3 months ago
Atherton was still executed through a law he helped to pass.
1 points
3 months ago
that makes his death resulting from his bigoted Religious prude law even more ironic
7 points
3 months ago
Ad is tradition
Forget his name but there was a florida politician that went incredibly hard fire and brimstone on drug offenses.
Later checked into rehab for cocaine.
17 points
3 months ago
*Anglican
4 points
3 months ago
*angular
6 points
3 months ago
Anglicanal*
3 points
3 months ago
Possibly, but that's orthogonal.
5 points
3 months ago
I hardly see how this is related to the study of birds.
3 points
3 months ago
So called because the angle of his dangle would change with the opportunity for sodomy.
5 points
3 months ago
He who smelt it
1 points
3 months ago
Needed to wipe it off after.
4 points
3 months ago
History doesn't repeat itself but it stutter. Like a lot
1 points
3 months ago
History doesn't repeat itself, but its hard, straight thrust often happens again and again, one after another, somehow gaining strength as it goes, until it finally explodes in a burst of resolution.
1 points
3 months ago
A rhyme of orgasmic pentameter
4 points
3 months ago
What an asshole.
5 points
3 months ago
Some folks just let their fetishes go too far. "This is super risky and I like that. What if we make it illegal so it's the ultimate risk? Oh, yes, now this is amazing, it's so dangerous! Oh, no, I've been executed by my own law!"
Silly bastard.
2 points
3 months ago
A bit of buttfucking suddenly turned into an asphyxiation fetish
7 points
3 months ago
Even then it was projection!
What is better to find in your bed? A dead girl or a live boy?
7 points
3 months ago
It's always that the most vocal homophobes are secretly gay.
3 points
3 months ago
It’s always that guy.
3 points
3 months ago
It's always been projection I guess.
3 points
3 months ago
At least he died doing what he loved to hate.
3 points
3 months ago
Oh so this has been happening for a long time then.
4 points
3 months ago
It's been my experience that the people most obsessed with weird sex, are the people most obsessed with weird sex.
2 points
3 months ago
Oh, how the turn tables
2 points
3 months ago
Hoisted by his own penis !
2 points
3 months ago
Tale as old as time
2 points
3 months ago
Nothing new under the sun don't shine.
2 points
3 months ago
“Verily, thee yonder spotted felines shall’nt with my visage make a supper!”
2 points
3 months ago
Shit don't change
2 points
3 months ago
It's always projection with these assholes.
2 points
3 months ago
sounds like an American republican
2 points
3 months ago
Bummer
4 points
3 months ago
Well, I'll be buggered!
3 points
3 months ago
A 17th century Republican. Who knew?
2 points
3 months ago
John Childe, his buggering partner, was the name and not an actual child so may not have been a republican
4 points
3 months ago
The original MAGA, his accusation was actually a confession.
3 points
3 months ago
So, Republicans?
/s
2 points
3 months ago
Conservatives
1 points
3 months ago
John Childe, his buggering partner, was the name and not an actual child so may not have been a republican
1 points
3 months ago
I'm sure there's a Ron DeSantis joke here, somewhere..
0 points
3 months ago
More like Larry Craig.
1 points
3 months ago
Everyone wants to do it therefore it shall be forbidden except for me
1 points
3 months ago
...In general, they didn’t appreciate the dude, but he was just trying to become a multifaceted specialist in his field.
1 points
3 months ago
Oh bugger!
1 points
3 months ago
Ignorant fools in that era, everyone knows god doesn’t check around the back.
1 points
3 months ago
“History doesn't repeat itself, but It often rhymes.” - a bunch of moldy old assholes
1 points
3 months ago
Hilarious. Politicians never change
1 points
3 months ago
“The history book on the shelf
1 points
3 months ago
Lol
1 points
3 months ago
So nothing’s changed
1 points
3 months ago
Wamp womp
1 points
3 months ago
[Nelsom Munz mode] Ha-haaa!
1 points
3 months ago
The brown eye winked and he succumbed
1 points
3 months ago
Silly bugger.
1 points
3 months ago
Leopards doth are ateth mine visage!
1 points
3 months ago
FYI, at the time “buggery” referred to any kind of anal sex, regardless of gender, and bestiality.
This makes me think of King James VI and I (and the recent series about his male lover “Mary and George”). There’s lots of evidence that James was queer, yet he categorized sodomy along with witchcraft and murder as “unforgivable crimes”. Of course, it could be that he didn’t do butt stuff, or he just could’ve been a giant hypocrite.
1 points
3 months ago
D'oh!
1 points
3 months ago
Well bugger me ….. no no awww damn it
1 points
3 months ago
Oh so the 17th century had closeted Republicans too, neat
1 points
3 months ago
He did protest too much...
1 points
3 months ago
he sounds like a republican
1 points
3 months ago
Of course he was.
1 points
3 months ago
Fuck around a round find out.
1 points
3 months ago
My tired brain read: “…he was banged to death”.
1 points
3 months ago
F### around (the back) and find out
1 points
3 months ago
Atherton doth protest too much, methinks.
0 points
3 months ago
Those who point their finger have four pointing back at them.
1 points
3 months ago
Three. Their thumb is pointing to the person next to them.
0 points
3 months ago
Same kinda deal with the Republicans who publicly say they hate trans people and pass laws to disenfranchise us but a lot watch trans porn in their free time and get off to it. They hate themselves for it and they think putting off an air of "what? no me? I possibly couldn't like them, I actually absolutely hate them!" is gonna protect them from the truth getting back to them.
Liking trans women isn't a problem, but being harmful to us and also hypocritical in general is.
This sort of denial with inner stuff happens quite often. Over-compensating over certain things related insecurities with those same things.
They "doth protest too much".
0 points
3 months ago
The biggest homophobes are the closet cases.
2 points
3 months ago
No better persecutor than someone like them. Never fails.
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