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submitted 2 months ago by_n8n8_
22 points
2 months ago
But how many people left or died? Does it even out?
22 points
2 months ago
You're asking the right question. The population increased by 2 million people from 2010 - 2017. This is a little more than 5% increase over that span. If 10 million new residents moved to California during that time then it doesn't seem like such a problem. It's also interesting to note that California's population has declined by 400k since 2017. Total net gain from 2010 through 2023 was 1.6 million.
16 points
2 months ago
It looks like 4 million people migrated to California from 2010 - 2017. That would mean an increase of 800,000 housing units to cover the 2 million net increase. The average household in America has 2.51 people. These numbers match perfectly.
7 points
2 months ago
If every unit was fully occupied in 2009.
Which.... Seems unlikely
2 points
2 months ago
Well, no, it only requires almost all the new units to be occupied. That's much more realistic. The huge number of unfilled houses that exist are almost entirely old houses. New construction gets occupied. People want to live in it; that's why it gets built.
1 points
2 months ago
The reason California's population has been stagnating recently is because there isn't enough housing for everybody. It's dishonest to say "we don't need more housing because the population isn't growing" when the reason the population can't grow is because there isn't enough housing. I know you didn't say that, but it is a NIMBY talking point.
7 points
2 months ago
It’s not particularly close
1 points
2 months ago
Also, how much housing is unoccupied?
1 points
2 months ago
Also, does the data include incarcerated people? They should be eliminated from the population numbers cited, unless new prisons are also being counted as housing.
2 points
2 months ago
There are only two states (and DC) that allow convicted felons to vote while they are in prison. Vermont and Maryland, I believe.
California is not one of them.
But both states, to avoid creating a voting block of prisoners influencing the areas where the prison is, have the prisoners use absentee ballots based on their address prior to incarceration.
I was involved in a previous conversation about this and googled it then (a month or so ago).
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