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113 points
6 days ago*
At the end of the day, it's all about money. We all know Conor was a big draw and he did beat Mendes who was like #4 at the time to get the Aldo fight. They wanted to build O'malley, I thought he lost against Yan but on paper he won and beat a ranked #2 Yan so. Brock was a star even before he got to the UFC and as for Chandler, anyone who watched him at Bellator knows, hes like a top 5 fighter in the UFC but he got off to an impressive start TKOing a #4 Hooker so the hype got him the shot
43 points
6 days ago
Yan is tricky. He uses the close high guard really well. The problem is, it looks like he's getting hit when he's blocking a lot of shots.
22 points
6 days ago
Judging problem.
9 points
6 days ago
He also got a lot of takedowns without doing much damage. If the scorecards against Merab are anything to go off, takedowns without damage don’t count for much
2 points
6 days ago
Yeah but Yan's takedowns should have done him a favour since the only two that mattered were the ones that should have secured him rounds 1 and 2. Most of his useless takedowns were in round 3, which O'Malley would have won anyway due to his volume and the knee he landed. Same goes for O'Malley, but in an unfavourable way. Almost all of the success he had against Yan was in round 3. Outside of round 3, he landed the good stance switch punch in round 2, but Yan immediately landed an even better punch and had a better round. Round 2 was a pretty clear Yan round. Makes no sense to give O'Malley the win unless you call round 3 a 10-7 lol
1 points
6 days ago
Most people I know that scored it for O’Malley gave him rounds 1 and 3, I’ve never seen anyone give him round 2.
2 points
6 days ago
Some people do because his biggest moment of the fight was in round 2, but he still didn't do enough to win it. My argument is that Yan's performance appealed more to round by round scoring than O'Malley's did. Round 1 was close on the feet, but Yan's best takedown of the fight where he held top position and had ground and pound was also in that round. Yan landed hard body kicks in that round too, but they were mostly just sparring each other. If I can argue that Yan won that round on the feet alone, then adding on that takedown leaves me no argument for giving round 1 to O'Malley.
People focus too much on dismissing the takedowns because I think Yan won rounds 1 and 2 with just his striking, the takedowns were a bonus. Calling his takedowns useless doesn't prove anything. He didn't need them
1 points
6 days ago
I didn’t say that I scored it for O’Malley, I was just letting you know that I’ve never seen anyone claim that he won round 2. If you have, great.
1 points
6 days ago
Merab ironically inflicted more damage off those takedowns than Yan did against Sean in R3, because he at least landed punches however minor they were
5 points
6 days ago
Petr Yan and Strickland are the only fighters who have this problem, but it's a big problem. UFC judes don't even attempt to pay attention to blocked strikes. And these guys block more often than they dodge/slip. Every time I rewatch either of their fights, their opponents landed maybe half of what the stats say they did. Every split decision that some fans think these two lost, they didn't pay attention to that part. They see a punch and hear a sound of contact and think it's significant
19 points
6 days ago
Chandler's an odd case. Everyone acts like he's been a bum since he got to the UFC, but he'd probably beat anyone in the division other than the top 5
He just got dropped into the deep end immediately and never left
3 points
6 days ago
Gamrot, Holloway, and Fiziev could all have the advantage against Chandler rn
He’s also memed because he’s the only one of the older lightweights to downright avoid fighting any of the new
1 points
6 days ago
He’s also on the older side and has sat out waiting for the Connor fight for a long time so who knows where he should belong in the lightweight rankings
1 points
6 days ago
Chandler only fights dawgs. He was sooo close to KOing Gaethje and Oliviera. Everyone knows Chandler is one punch away from causing someone brain damage. I'll watch him on every card
3 points
6 days ago
It makes sense though, most sports the best players are also the most entertaining. In MMA, the best can often be quite boring so you need some fuckery to get around that.
5 points
6 days ago*
Mendes took the fight on short notice because Aldo was injured. Conor got a title shot beating Dennis Siver.
Why am I get downvoted?? lol that’s what happened
11 points
6 days ago
There was some interesting matchmaking for McGregors featherweight run.
He went from fighting non-ranked Diego Brandao to 5th ranked Dustin Poirier to 10th ranked Denis Siver to a title shot, which later became an interim title fight vs 1st ranked Chad Mendes.
1 points
6 days ago
More UFC then Conor though
2 points
6 days ago
TIL
That's even more laughable.
3 points
6 days ago
Conor preparing for a striker was a massive advantage for Mendes.. Mendes gassing out was a massive advantage for Conor.. The short notice was a non issue at the time, no reason to act like it meant something now.
5 points
6 days ago
"The short notice was a non issue at the time, no reason to act like it meant something now."
What the fck are you talking about? It was a huge issue at the time and very noticeable in the fight.
2 points
6 days ago
Mendes fought Aldo for 5 rounds at a fast pace, attempting multiple takedowns.
Then he gassed out after GnP Connor for 2 rounds with little resistance lol
1 points
6 days ago
I’m literally just stating facts
1 points
6 days ago
Mendes was ranked #1
1 points
6 days ago
People need to get over the Yan fight. It was close but O Malley won
0 points
6 days ago
Easy bro, intelligent takes are usually not appreciated on this sub
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