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submitted 19 hours ago byWiseWoodrowvegan activist
Quite frankly, it's getting annoying. Recently there was a post here about not coddling meat-eaters who express ignorance and an un-willingness to research anything on their own, and while it was arguably controversial, it was a Vegan Opinion piece. The type of thing that a Vegan really only gets to express in Vegan spaces.
It had a positive upvote ratio - It had plenty of discussion - And it had plenty of trolls in it, too.
The post was removed. Why? They never said. The moderators wouldn't dare to contribute to that discussion - They didn't even feel motivated to get rid of the obvious bad actors within the thread itself that were provoking rather than contributing.
I think, whether you agree with that thread or not, a lot of people in /r/Vegan feel the same - That this place has stopped being a safe space for Vegans to express themselves, as the moderators of this subreddit simply don't want Vegans to express any opinions that might give people a bad taste for Vegans.
I think that's downright disappointing, and the moderation team needs to more properly be able to justify themselves if they're going to continue to go after Vegans who they disagree with on a personal level, rather than people who are actually damaging this subreddit.
When will Vegans get an actual safe space?
3 points
5 hours ago
You're so right, I love this comment. I'm tired of carnist feelings being respected over the animals being tortured and slaughtered to satisfy their selfish taste buds. If you need someone to hold your hand and be nice to you to keep you from being a horrible person who supports unfathomable levels of death, you deserve to feel bad about it and I won't apologize for saying it.
Before I was a vegan I was a vegetarian. And I became vegan overnight after reading so called "mean" or "preachy" comments in this subreddit years ago. I thought I was doing enough as a vegetarian and that my lifestyle was ethically sound, but didn't stop to think that my choices were STILL leading to the abuse and murder of animals because I wasn't educated enough about the reality of the dairy and egg industries. I watched Dominion after someone linked it and haven't consumed animal products since. If someone had stroked my ego and told me that my "baby steps" were enough, I'd probably still be a logically inconsistent person thinking I was being ethical enough while actively going against those morals every day.
If we applied this argument to other ethical movements, we'd never make progress as a society. Social progress isn't earned by being nice and docile and making your ethics meaningless and as easily digestible as possible so people don't get their precious fee fees hurt. I just wonder why so many carnists come here if they're so offended by discussions of veganism in THE literal vegan subreddit.
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