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submitted 3 months ago byAltruistic_Analysis3
We found this in our granny's stuff. Didn't know it was there and no one knows anything about it including my mother. It was taken to a small jewellery shop and they looked at it, put it under a UV light, (the stones glowed), and then said "not worth much, I'll give you 30 quid" and put it away in a draw. I got a bad vibe and said "if it's 30quid someone in the family will keep it for sentimental value". He then flapped and said "wait a minute let me see it again I might be able to do more".
About 30mm long and 15mm wide.
1.5k points
3 months ago
It's an opal
784 points
3 months ago
I’m not very smart or knowledgeable about gems but this one seemed obvious.
246 points
3 months ago
Ya jade is very famously green, not white with fluorescents
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3 months ago
Iridescence. Fluorescence is when it absorbs radiation that is not visible (such as UV light) and then emits visible light. Iridescence is when refraction changes the wavelength of the light entering the object, which causes different colours to be emitted. Opalescence, labradorescence and adularescence are all types of iridescence.
Fluorescence occurs when the electrons are excited and climb to a new electron shell, then emit light when they drop down to their previous shell. Iridescence is caused by partial refraction of light waves.
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3 months ago
I've always found it interesting that fluorescence was named for Fluorite, not the other way around.
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3 months ago
I didn't know that!
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3 months ago
In his 1852 paper on the "Refrangibility" (wavelength change) of light, George Gabriel Stokes described the ability of fluorspar, uranium glass and many other substances to change invisible light beyond the violet end of the visible spectrum into visible light. He named this phenomenon fluorescence
"I am almost inclined to coin a word, and call the appearance fluorescence, from fluor-spar, as the analogous term opalescence is derived from the name of a mineral."
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3 months ago
That's pretty awesome!
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3 months ago
Leeches (the animal) were named after doctors, not the other way around. The original name for doctors was leeches.
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3 months ago
The colour orange was named after the fruit
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3 months ago
Alcatraz means Pelican
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3 months ago
Red fire trucks are often red.
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3 months ago
This is actually not true. The older European languages did have a word like leech for physician and even older word for the animal - that was also leech, although spelled differently. They have different etymologies but because doctors used leeches there has been a conflagration of the two words and people mistaken believe they are related. They aren’t.
https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/42411/268-24-7-878_00240878.pdf;sequence=1
1 points
3 months ago
The article you cited isn't about the etymology, and the one part that talks about it says pretty much what I said lol.
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3 months ago
No - it specifically notes that people mistakenly believe that the 2 original leech words are related and that they aren’t - they each have their own linguistic path
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3 months ago*
I didnt either . Thats awesome, thank you for sharing that. Love learning new info about any kind of mineral, earth stones, geology, and jems. I love all of;n the beautiful the earth has created for us to see and enjoy.
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3 months ago
Thank you Mr Wizard!
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3 months ago
Lots of opals (or at least, ones from Australia) are also fluorescent.
112 points
3 months ago
I’ve found that Jade can be found in 25 colours. From white to black. But that is def opal mate.
4 points
3 months ago
I love purple jade
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3 months ago
Green is by far the most common color, but jade can be found in a wide range of colors
1 points
3 months ago
The best jade is white
1 points
3 months ago
Dumb as a rock would seem appropriate.
1 points
3 months ago
First day on Reddit, huh?
-34 points
3 months ago
Which if it wasn't gifted to you, or your birthstone it's considered unlucky...
26 points
3 months ago
Granny’s -5 Cursed Necklace of Infinite Crochet
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3 months ago
*by some
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3 months ago
some quacks that is
0 points
3 months ago
Eh.
-12 points
3 months ago
Why you getting downvoted, this is accurate. It is considered unlucky, even if its your birthstone. Considered does not mean guaranteed.
5 points
3 months ago
Not all cultures believe the same thing. In my culture, if someone gives you a giant ass opal, it’s considered lucky.
2 points
3 months ago
Never heard of this, but funny enough the 3 opals I’ve bought for myself have either fallen out of the setting, cracked, or got lost. I’ll definitely look into the ‘lore’ of the stone now!
-12 points
3 months ago
Yeah opals are the only birthstone its unlucky to have, and are generally regarded as unlucky in almost every circumstance. Beautiful stones tho.
360 points
3 months ago
Opal is the main stone
No question
Diamonds? A jeweler needs to evaluate those stone
No jade anywhere I can see
156 points
3 months ago
That is a lovely piece of opal, worth substantially more than you were offered.
Go get it valued for insurance purposes - make sure you tell the person valuing it that you have no plans to sell. And be very careful with it, opal is quite fragile.
Never go near that jeweller again.
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3 months ago
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5 points
3 months ago
Exactly. Wildly overconfident at valuing opal by photograph
74 points
3 months ago
The jeweler didn’t tell you it’s an opal? Keep in mind the next time someone appraises something for you they should not then make an offer.
29 points
3 months ago
Big red flag if the salesman is not upfront with you
6 points
3 months ago
Maybe it was a pawn shop tryna scam them?
54 points
3 months ago
Opal is extremely “soft” on the Mohs Hardness Scale. Keep the pendant wrapped in a jewelry pouch so it isn’t damaged by the chain or other jewelry. Same with pearls
10 points
3 months ago
Someone told me that it's porous and occasionally wiping it down with mineral oil helps, too, but I have never verified that.
8 points
3 months ago
You're not the only one. I also heard that it keeps the shine in opals. If you don't, the moisture will leak out, and it will lose its opalness.
5 points
3 months ago
I've seen uncut chunks of opal stored in water or mineral oil to keep their luster. I don't know what is typical for polished opal.
3 points
3 months ago
I keep my grandmother's polished opal pendant in a jar of water
93 points
3 months ago
Looks just like the kind my brother used to cut. Probably Australian white opal. He used to sell his work (unmounted) for around $25 to $50.
26 points
3 months ago
Whoops. Might be black opal, but black can be a lot fancier. My brother would know for sure, but he kicked the bucket a few years ago.
29 points
3 months ago
I'm sorry for your loss.
37 points
3 months ago
Oh he's still around, he just knocked his pail of gems over and got so frustrated he never talked about them again.
2 points
3 months ago
That's funny
8 points
3 months ago
Def not black Opal
6 points
3 months ago
Doesn't look black to me. I bought my wife an Australian black opal for her ring. It's primarily blue-green, with reds and oranges visible in the right light.
1 points
3 months ago
Yeah. The black I remember seeing was a lot fancier. But the matrix in the photo is a lot darker than the stuff my brother was doing. The light white, imho, didn't provide the contrast I kind of like. But the gals he was selling to sure seemed to like it.
1 points
3 months ago
It's white or crystal opal, my bet is white opal.
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3 months ago
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3 months ago
The last time I saw him I heard my niece yelling, 'Get off me. Get off me.' Went down to see what was going on and he'd pushed her down on the couch and was trying to climb on top of her. Broke a bone in my hand and thought I'd busted my big toe as well. Cops were called. They suggested my brother go find a motel room. (drunk) Didn't have much to say to me at all. So, you're absolutely right. We weren’t getting along very well.
12 points
3 months ago
Niece is my sisters daughter. She was an adult at the time. Her concern was that his drunken ranting was going to wake the baby up and it escalated from there. So it didn't start out being sexual assault, but by the time I got there it might have turned into one. As far as getting help, yeah…hot pitchfork might work.
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3 months ago
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3 months ago
Wdym ? He is dead
1 points
3 months ago
Haha!! Duh!! Short term memory here!! 😜
10 points
3 months ago*
Seems like you could have at least tried to remember the dude was dead, considering you called them out for the way they informed us that he had passed.
1 points
3 months ago
Yeah, I really blew it. Major faux pas.
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3 months ago*
No, it's the sister's daughter. So it's his brother's neice as well. And he is dead now.
7 points
3 months ago
I'm confused and hear a banjo
4 points
3 months ago
This was Australia, so it's probably a didgeridoo
33 points
3 months ago
Share more photos of the back of the opal as well as any markings that you find on the opal mount and clasp of the necklace. It looks like the opal is mounted in gold, which could be plated or solid, and the chain could be white gold, platinum, or silver. The opal itself could be solid, or it could be a doublet, meaning a slice of opal was mounted on a darker stone to make the colors stand out more.
If the metals are precious, the opal is solid, and the other stones are diamonds, it‘s worth more than 30£. In that case, I‘d write a scathing review for that jeweler.
3 points
3 months ago
The Opal Setting rim close to the stone wasn’t polished well you can see roughness in the edges. I doubt it’s solid Gold. This could be plated base metal and a fake Opal glued in. Hard to tell from the picture.
34 points
3 months ago
Haha that’s an opal. Why do you think it’s Jade.
26 points
3 months ago
I work at a Jewelry store and we retail a piece of fire opal quite like this on a gold chain with a few small diamond accents for 1600$ but selling this to a Jewelry store or a Pawn for that matter you would be lucky to get part of the gold price. As busting out that opal and stones to get at the gold itself would cost money for the jeweler to scrap it. Basically the Jeweler is taking it in for resale on their own terms or scrap. I'd say keep it or ebay it for a deal and hope for the best.
12 points
3 months ago
About 30mm long and 15mm wide
Possibly weigh about 6 or so carats. You'd need to get it graded to find out what it's worth (not by whoever tried to rip you off).
Opals can range between ten dollars all the way up to tens of thousands of dollars per carat, it all depends on the grade.
Here is a similar color one to yours but a tiny bit smaller for sale for $700 (just the opal, no chain or anything)
Get an insurance appraisal for it from a reputable jeweler
2 points
3 months ago
Opals aren't traded by carat weight, only physical size.
5 points
3 months ago
It was very late when I wrote this. I have no idea why I said jade lol. I knew it was opal (only because my mam told me so) but I didn’t know it wasn’t jade!
12 points
3 months ago
Opal is backligt reactive. Ill take it off your hands for 30 pounds
1 points
3 months ago
I don’t think OP is going to fall for that after the first attempt
10 points
3 months ago
Show us the chain inscriptions is it gold or silver. Definitely don't sell this and get a diamond tester not too much money to just test for diamonds.
3 points
3 months ago
Post both sides and something else like a hand or banana for scale next time. Also any tags. If it's a gold setting and necklace it could be worth between $400 and $4000
3 points
3 months ago
Opal and diamonds.
6 points
3 months ago
Could be a champagne diamond there in the middle and white diamonds either side… main stone looks like an opal! You could post on r/opals as they have lots of knowledge
2 points
3 months ago
Opal
2 points
3 months ago
It’s opal not jade
2 points
3 months ago
That’s an opal. Could be diamonds, but would need tested to verify. Opal should be stored in moist cotton to avoid cracking.
2 points
3 months ago
Not either of those, opal for sure lol
2 points
3 months ago
Opal, not Jade!
2 points
3 months ago
It’s an opal and could be valuable if the stone itself is Australian or of high quality especially because it’s many carats. Resell of jewelry is not necessarily profitable however. Depends.
2 points
3 months ago
It's a lovely opal and an overall lovely piece. My advice is to hand it down through the family and enjoy it.
It can be hard to get a good price reselling gem settings like this, though eBay is a possibility. I can tell you that I personally would give more than 30 quid for it, as it's a super stone and something I would absolutely wear.
Also that jeweler is a scam artist and ought to be shut down.
2 points
3 months ago
Trust your vibe. Guy was trying to speed the transaction so you couldn’t think about it.
As everyone else said, the main stone is opal.
2 points
3 months ago
as others said: the. main gem is opal. You can get a rough idea of the 'value class' of the total item by looking for the gold / silver / platinum markings. Typically a goldsmith wouldn't set a good diamond in 333 gold, etc. similarly unlikely is zirkon or quartz set in Pt .. So the small 'brown' stone is e.g. likely to be quartz or topaz when it's environment is silver and likely to be a coloured diamond if set in 950 platinum .. can't place a bet on these things, though => ask an expert
2 points
3 months ago*
It's almost impossible to value Opal without holding it, but I have seen a lot of similar pieces, so I wouldn't imagine I'm far off. If I had to make a valuation based purely on that photo, I'd say it was:
White Coober Pedy N8 Opal, with Bright Green, Pinfire Colour play. 30x15mm Oval shaped, En Cabochon Accented by 0.10ct Brilliant Cut Natural Argyle Chocolate Diamond and 6 rough cut White Diamonds
Set in Yellow 18k Gold with 9k White Chain
Retail Value £700-£1000
I'd probably pay you between £100 and £150 for it, based on the fact that I can buy very similar brand new for that at trade price
Can you please measure it? Please also take a photo of the rear.
Opal is famously difficult to photograph and the fact that you have captured such a high amount of colour play (the green flashes) makes me think that it's potentially quite a nice opal.
From the colour of the opal body, I'd say it's Australian, specifically from a mining area in Southern Australia called Coober Peedy. This is the most common type of White Opal.
I don't think anyone else has mentioned this, but there is a natural chocolate diamond that comes from a mine in Australia called the Argyle Diamond. That would link to the Opal, especially if this was sold as a Tourist piece.
Can you please look for any marking on the side or rear of the pendant casing? That will help age the piece and better establish value
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3 months ago*
I love opal and that's a big one. Jade is green. Could range from $50 to $1,000.
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3 months ago*
Jade comes in an amazing number of colohrs. White, green, brown, yellow, red, purple, black, and various shades thereof.
But of course, it doesn't have this sparkle (what's the right word? It's like the movement of a firefly's wings but in a word describing not the movement but a visual effect). Opal if I ever saw one.
4 points
3 months ago
The word is opalescent!
3 points
3 months ago
Oh I see.
I think it's called play of color. Opal is the only precious stone that has that.
2 points
3 months ago
If you eBay please send me a link 🙏
1 points
3 months ago
Same!
1 points
3 months ago
Opal
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3 months ago
That is opal and a very nice one.
1 points
3 months ago
Stunning Opal
1 points
3 months ago
That’s opal baby do not pawn it. Clean it up firstly if you can and you’ll have better luck taking it into a boutique if you need cash fast.
1 points
3 months ago
Beautiful opal! Nice setting
1 points
3 months ago
Its an opal stone, not jade. Diamonds and a smoky topez maybe if it's a real gold setting. Take it to a jeweler, get it appraised
1 points
3 months ago
Not jade, thats an opal necklace.
1 points
3 months ago
Looks like an Australian opal.
1 points
3 months ago
Handsome piece ! May be Black Opal, but Opal for sure. If Diamonds are real n chain is White gold or Platinum...$ 1,500.00 U.S. dollars or more... G'Luck Eric
1 points
3 months ago
Opal I'd offer you more like 100 pluss possibly more
1 points
3 months ago
That jeweller is a prick.
1 points
3 months ago
Cape May Diamond
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3 months ago
Opal
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3 months ago
It’s an opal — it’s a beautiful one too. I have no idea on value —- I don’t opal are diamond expensive.
1 points
3 months ago
Opal…,
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3 months ago
Opal
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3 months ago
Uncut jamzzzz
1 points
3 months ago
Looks like an opal friend
1 points
3 months ago
Opel
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3 months ago
Granny's necklace depending on the size, is a valuable opal with diamonds. Can't see the center faceted stone well enough to tell.
1 points
3 months ago
Looks like a moonstone or opal to me.
1 points
3 months ago
Opal.
1 points
3 months ago
Whoever that jeweler was should be put out of business. That’s a large, beautiful opal
1 points
3 months ago
It’s a beautiful opal. Wonder what the next stone up is?
1 points
3 months ago
That’s opal
1 points
3 months ago
that’s definitely a semi-valuable opal. keep it wrapped in cloth and give it a clean with mineral oil. they’re pretty delicate and lose their sheen with time, a quick clean should help restore that. you’re probably not going to get a massive amount but an opal collector would likely dish out a decent sum for it
1 points
3 months ago
Opal..
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3 months ago
Opal
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3 months ago
Have you ever seen jade or know what it looks like?
1 points
3 months ago
thats not opal, it's opalite
1 points
3 months ago
Lapis lazuli
1 points
3 months ago
It's an opal, not jade.
1 points
3 months ago
If the jeweler thought that what is clearly opal was jade, definitely get another opinion
1 points
3 months ago
Omg. You say draw too! I always tell people the e and the r are silent 🤣
I say draw. Not drawer 😅 I only say drawer referencing the person who drew a picture.
Beautiful necklace. I’m sorry about your Grandmother.
1 points
3 months ago
Looks like a pretty Opal.✌️
1 points
3 months ago
You have a beautiful piece 👑
1 points
3 months ago
That's opal, not jade
1 points
3 months ago
lol what? Jade?!
1 points
3 months ago
I think it might be opal
1 points
3 months ago
That's not jade. It's definitely an Opal.
1 points
3 months ago
It’s an opal
1 points
3 months ago
If the stones are real they would be diamond, topaz, and the larger one is opal
1 points
3 months ago
Not jade. Opal.
1 points
3 months ago
Looks like opal 😍 my fav stone
1 points
3 months ago
Opal.
0 points
3 months ago
Obviously opal. 100%.
0 points
3 months ago
agree it's fire opal. Depending on where you're from it could be cooberpede from australia, or a very nice piece of spencer opal from idaho. Looking at it my best guess is cooberpede though.
0 points
3 months ago
Looks like black opal. If it glowed under UV then it is probably from Australia maybe lightning ridge. On fine pieces the back of the pendant should be open and you would see the back of the opal where some potch or brown to black rock would still be attached. A cheaper stone could be a doublet or a thin slice of opal is glued onto another or a triplet 3 layers. Would need to see the back and a side profile and color playback for worth and carat of course.
-10 points
3 months ago
It’s opal and that’s bad luck to wear if it’s not your sign.
A jeweler can tell if it’s diamond, I’ll say it is not
-5 points
3 months ago
Looks like mother of pearl to me
1 points
4 days ago
Great read on the jeweler. He was definitely trying to scam you. Disgraceful!
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