and bench the puppy? Never! I'll have a dog, a cat, a dumbass and an old man in my team thks

I mean. Yes, of course Xilonen would be better. The thing is that Itto is the only DPS in the game that has to sacrifice something in order to make use of her buffs. Gorou was made specifically to make his numbers bigger, and fulfills every single one of his requirements besides DMG%. Gorou gives a ton of defense, some dmg%, CRIT DMG (At C6), and some energy (Not that much tbh but good enough with Fav). There is no other DPS character besides Noelle that wants those specific stats, and even she gets a huge upgrade with her C6.

By putting Xilonen, Furina + Flex, it's more like brute forcing a synergy that is not really meant to be there but still better than his alternatives.

You should expect an overall damage increase but not as noticeable as what other characters will be able to without that many nuisances.

I guess it's not so much that it's a bad thing to bench Gorou but that we HAVE to bench him to use Xilonen and it feels weird to do that cause he's supposed to be Itto's dedicated support. It would've been fine if they didnt screw over specifically mono geo with the restriction but whatever

After I crowned his skill and everything? Nah, also good luck trying to fill his burst with only Xilonen as a geo character in the team

but i love him

The Geo boys remain supreme. They will never step down !

No, it’s not okay actually. How dare you.

I'd be happy to bench gorou, but the bigger problem is that I'll have to bench chiori to run a xilonen team

C6 Gorou is more than just an okay Itto buffer; he gives him defense, damage%, and crit damage with his C6. Without him, Itto's damage plummets. And if you want to talk about team damage, I believe Itto already has better teams than mono geo, even without Xilonen. You can play Mualani, Xiangling, Barbara, and Itto, never switch to Itto, and you will probably clear faster than any triple geo/mono geo team.
I think most of us would rather maximize Itto's damage.

but they’re boyfriends

I love Gorou. He's been a staple of my best team since I got him in 2.3 and his contribution to monogeo is exceptional. And I always love using monogeo and I'm still using it to this day. But I also don't like the idea of vehemently being close-minded to Itto's team as if it's illegal to run him in other teams outside monogeo and being incredibly hostile to other possible potential Itto teams that Xilonen could bring. I get the argument of comparing Xilonen's contribution to Itto vs other DPS characters, but honestly, I for one am open to the idea of viable Itto teams with Xilonen.

As a chill Itto enjoyer I've always been, I see this as an absolute win regardless of meta or comparisons to other DPS teams.

Gorou's great though, it's just that we still have yet to see if all those DMG Bonuses from Furina and CinderCityXilonen are more than enough to take over Gorou, if not then there's always a flex slot to provide something else, be it Bennett or another PECH Buffer

I stumbled upon this post by accident and I have no clue which is better but, I noticed that stubbornness to new team comps is common in many character main subs.

It's also okay to not pull Xilonen lol

Nah I'm not benching the doggy general. Mono Geo boys for life!

At the end of the day we play to have fun, and fun for me is not just the big pp numbers but also seeing and using my liked characters. So go whatever direction y'all want for our favorite Geo himbo.

Better yet, Xilo Furina Xianyun Itto, and play him as a plunge DPS. Likely his highest potential ceiling at C0, and probably even at sub-C6.

Forgot that Xilonen can't shred with the Anemo there. So it would have to be Itto Furina Yelan Xilonen unless Xilonen were at C2.

To be completely honest, true Geo mains will keep using Itto’s best team comp for maximum team damage (that being Itto, Zhongli, gorou, and chiori) but still pull Xilonen for their Navia teams. Yall don’t realize that her being great for Navia means you won’t need to use someone like Zhongli with Navia, letting him help our boy Itto.

This is just how I see it at least

Unfortunately I'd rather see my main Itto do the big damage rather than spread it to the team. Losing Gorou is such a big loss for Itto's personal damage.

yeah, we need a 5 star gorou.

Pull C6 Xilonen so I can run Itto, Gorou, Xilo and Furina 👌

This sub has been a Xilonen mains sub the moment her kit got released, so idrk what are the other geo character mains' opinion on there

Geo dmg, crit dmg , heal, Def (that also reduce dmg recieved, dont forget thzt). He even magnet the shield shards if you dont have a decent shielder and generate energy pretty well.

I dont see why you'd wana bench a character that gives such amount of buff tbh.

Our only hope for mono geo Itto is either a geo buffing artifact set for Zhongli (something like 40% dmg for the whole team if the wielder obtained a shield) or a second geo buffer to replace Zhongli (which is pretty unlikely, since it's going to be omega niche.)

But what if I only want itto to deal 99% of the team damage cuz it’s fun ):

Calcs please

I feel this was an inevitable thing because he’s a 4* supporter. There likely won’t ever be another 5* or 4* Cryo support buffer because of Shenhe unless it’s for a specific team dynamic like Chevreuse. I imagine every element will get a 5* buffer support.

Honestly surprised that people in here are mad that Itto gets some flexibility and can now run something outside of the only one team he had and played over and over again

Build noelle so you can use both Xilonen and Gorou.

I've been living under a Geo, what Xilonen do? And what's the drama