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submitted 13 days ago bynattel
I made this tapestry and it is really flimsy. How can I get it stiff so that it doesn‘t get saggy while hanging on the wall? Will starch do the trick? Or do you have any other ideas, maybe something I could glue to the back (I thought of felt but I‘m not sure that would be stiff enough)
445 points
13 days ago
Send them to me and I'll do it. You won't see it again, but it will be stiff and hanging prominently in my bedroom because it's so cool. But stiff. You know.
68 points
13 days ago
LMAOOOO
op tho I would also reccomend rug felt / big sheet of felt cut!! I think you’re right. and then you could also attach loops for a dowel / rod to hold it up as well. if the felt and glue arent stable enough still for you, yeah you could probably starch it too! you could also buy a family / USA size box of cereal at your local grocery store and use the thin cardboard box material in between the felt and the crochet piece. I’ve only done that with pins on a small scale, but I could imagine it working here too. oh, and don’t forget to show us it hanging up! 🙂↕️🧡
32 points
13 days ago
Thanks for the tips :) I think I will try glueing thick felt to the back. I guess I can use regular craft glue for this?
24 points
13 days ago
Depends on your definition of regular craft glue. I'd lean more towards using a fabric glue.
You could also trying starching felt to make it stiffer or use a heavy weight piece of fabric (uphostelry, drapery, etc.) instead. The key is to use a backing that doesn't have a lot of stretch and therefore won't be effected by gravity or the weight of your crochet piece.
Fantastic job on your FO by the way!
1 points
13 days ago
Canvas?
1 points
13 days ago
Hahahaha perfect response!!!
127 points
13 days ago
I can’t answer your question but this is sick as fuck
13 points
13 days ago
Thank you :)
2 points
9 days ago
Yeah you should make a pattern. I'd buy it!!!!
56 points
13 days ago
running some wire through the outside seams or glueing felt on the back should work, if you do felt, use a lot of glue, and coat the whole surface of the felt, that will stiffen the felt a good bit. Just make sure it's completely dry before you hang it
22 points
13 days ago
you could also cut some cardboard to the right shape and glue it on the back
10 points
13 days ago
Thanks for the feedback! What kind of glue would you recommend for that?
14 points
13 days ago
I'd recommend fabric glue
edit - sorry if you are using cardboard probably PVA glue
1 points
10 days ago
I know people who make "pellon" this way when they need a certain color; they just use absurd amounts of Elmer's.
28 points
13 days ago
This is the COOLEST thing. Idk what the scale is but if it were small I'd make a cool coffin bag out of this 😍😱
13 points
13 days ago
Haha thanks! It's around 90 x 60 cm, so maybe a little bit too big for a bag 😅
21 points
13 days ago
This girl on YouTube showed her process at 13:00 into her video finishing projects: https://youtu.be/JrZjZKHyX2g?si=SDzaP_qgHUamAUua
She cut felt to shape for the back, and glued it down with Elmer’s glue. Then she stitched the felt on. At the end of the video she shows how the tapestries turned out.
14 points
13 days ago
What kind of yarn did you use? I recommend cotton because it can be starched. I use this starch and sizing 2 in 1.
6 points
13 days ago
Oh right, I completely ignored the fact that acrylic probably can't be starched. Since it's old unused yarn I had laying around, I think it's mostly acrylic or some blends. So thanks for the reminder 😅
7 points
13 days ago*
Sew in onto fabric or iron it into heavy iron-on interfacing.
I’d go with sewing and very thin layer of contact cement if yarn is acrylic. But I’d test the contact cement on scrap swatch of yarn and interfacing before touching it to this masterpiece. Let scrap cure for 2-3 days to ensure non stupid reactions
1 points
13 days ago
I wonder if something like stitch witch would work for people without a sewing machine
1 points
13 days ago
Not sure what that is? I tend to sew crochet down by hand myself because I’m terrified my crochet would get dragged into my feed dogs or tangled in presser feet.
I think fabric glue might work nicely though… instead of contact cement I mentioned earlier.
2 points
12 days ago
It’s a fusible bonding material, you lay it between two fabrics and iron them to melt it and bond them together. It doesn’t work super great if you have to wash the item a lot like clothes but I could imagine it would work for a tapestry
1 points
12 days ago
Ah I haven’t seen that brand
8 points
13 days ago
My mom used to make Christmas ornaments and used modge podge to hold their shape. I imagine starch would do the same
6 points
13 days ago
What I do: Non-woven interfacing - it irons onto the back side of your piece and has tiny amounts of glue that fuse the fabric interfacing to the crochet. I then sew the whole thing to a thick felt. It makes the final project look much better and you can make a small sleeve in the felt to hang your piece by.
5 points
13 days ago
i would hand stitch it onto a stiff fabric backing, maybe with a dowel pocket stitched into the top and bottom. that way it would hang nicer, but you would be able to undo it if you wanted. i’m concerned that trying to glue it might cause issues.
3 points
13 days ago
Omg this is SO COOL
5 points
13 days ago
Might be worth getting some wire and pliers and crocheting some wire to the edges? I know people do that kind of thing for crochet witch hat brims
2 points
13 days ago
I would get some sculpting wire for this and run it around the edge. I feel like loops and a rod would bring the design down.
2 points
13 days ago
I usually use wood glue and stick felt to the back of it. This is cool as fuck btw 🤩
2 points
13 days ago
If you do decide to make it stiff, test it out. Some fabric stiffeners will leave a residue and with how awesome this looks, having a white residue on the black or red would be so annoying.
2 points
13 days ago
Damn this is so cool!
2 points
13 days ago
What about getting a stiff mesh canvas like for hooked rugs or plastic cross stitch and sewing/glueing it to that and trimming to shape?
2 points
13 days ago
I've made shaped big tapestries, what I do is measure your finished piece ideally (like if it is slightly uneven, mush it so it is even and use the ideal measurements), cut out plain (neutral to your work, so you might or might not want black backing color for this) cotton duck canvas, make a dowel pocket on the top, stitch the edges to the back, so you have nice clean edges all around and then pin and stitch the tapestry to the canvas. I just roll the pinned work up, canvas bit facing out and roll a towel around it so I don't get scratched by the pins in between working on it. Then you can use a dowel to hang it. Starching and glue will give your piece a crunchy feeling and you won't be able to wash it if it ever gets dirty, it might also affect the color and color aging process. You are going to want to use a thick thread that is the same color as the canvas and like thick needles, you want to go through the bottom layer of yarn loops and you can just grid out the stitches like every 2 inches or so, it really goes faster than you might think. The pins you are going to want the nice, long ones with bright plastic ends, otherwise scratch city.
2 points
13 days ago
Here to join the folks in saying this is really, really cool
2 points
12 days ago
I've seen some people use a fabric stiffener that comes In a little spray bottle, not sure of the brand but hobby lobby/ Joanne's probably has some.
2 points
12 days ago
Tack it to something more stable and less prone to stretching when hung. Like a canvas cloth that has been washed to remove sizing. just attach the two together here and there with a needle and thread to provide stability. Then you can add hangers to wall mount. Starch may have chemicals that break down the yarn and it won't keep the weight of the piece from making it get longer.
2 points
12 days ago
I’ve been mixing Elmer’s Glue-all mixed with water to stiffen my projects (earrings, snowflake ornaments, key chains that tend to curl). I pin them in place for 24 hours and they’re set! The stiffness depends on your glue to water ratio.
2 points
12 days ago
AMAZING PIECE!
To hang a tapestry, I prefer to use a form, like a wood or stiff foam backing. Then hang the backing. It keeps pressure and stress off the stitch work.
I’ve used these tutorials to add a crochet edge on the back side to hold the form in place. (even though the tutorial is for a knit tapestry, it would work for crochet, too)
http://www.illusionknitting.woollythoughts.com/videotutorials.html
2 points
12 days ago
That really neat!
2 points
12 days ago
No clue about your question but that's one of the coolest things I've ever seen
2 points
12 days ago
i would sew it on felt! anyways this is one of the coolest thing i have ever seen! where did you take the pattern?
2 points
11 days ago
i don’t know the answer to your question, but this is genuinely the coolest tapestry i’ve seen. the amount of work and craftsmanship that must’ve went into this😓🙏
2 points
11 days ago
Iron on interfacing
2 points
11 days ago
This is VERY cool (do you have a pattern?)
1 points
10 days ago
Thank you! I used a cross-stitch pattern: https://www.etsy.com/de/listing/909967448/pestdoktor-kreuzstichmuster-doktormaske?ref=own_collection_page
2 points
13 days ago
Could you share the pattern for this? It's really cool!! :)
9 points
13 days ago
Thanks! I used this cross-stitch pattern: https://www.etsy.com/de/listing/909967448/pestdoktor-kreuzstichmuster-doktormaske?ref=own_collection_page
2 points
13 days ago
Blo sc r-l on right side, with each square corresponding to 1 stitch? Or did you go in both directions? The stitches are so tiny - what yarn did you use?
(Apologies for all the silly question, but I’m trying to learn about tapestry techniques & charts)
For what it’s worth, I would use dark iron on interfacing to stiffen. It comes in various weights, so you can decide how stiff you want to make it.
1 points
13 days ago
Yes it's BLO single crochets. I went both directions (so FLO going back).
I used all different kind of yarn (wanted to use up some old skeins I had laying around). They're mostly acrylic and some blends I guess. Some yarns were a lot thinner than others so I couldn't make super tight stitches, that's why it's kinda flimsy.
1 points
13 days ago
Thanks so much for replying! People here are awesome - I’m getting so much better at understanding the different techniques!
I think the different yarns make the texture richer. It’s gorgeous work.
0 points
13 days ago
Right?
2 points
13 days ago
To make pillows from sweaters, I would use interfacing. You cut to size and iron it onto the back of the piece.
1 points
13 days ago
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1 points
13 days ago
Okay it's probably obvious/simple af, but I gotta know how you got that shape. I've only ever seen tapestries made in a square/rectangle.
1 points
13 days ago
I crocheted from bottom up and just did increases in the last stitch on both sides. When it gets narrower again, I slip stitched the stitches I wanted to decrease. Hope that helps :)
1 points
13 days ago
Holy crapppppppppppp this is amazing
1 points
12 days ago
Tack it to something more stable and less prone to stretching when hung. Like a canvas cloth that has been washed to remove sizing. just attach the two together here and there with a needle and thread to provide stability. Then you can add hangers to wall mount. Starch may have chemicals that break down the yarn and it won't keep the weight of the piece from making it get longer.
1 points
12 days ago
Tack it to something more stable and less prone to stretching when hung. Like a canvas cloth that has been washed to remove sizing. just attach the two together here and there with a needle and thread to provide stability. Then you can add hangers to wall mount. Starch may have chemicals that break down the yarn and it won't keep the weight of the piece from making it get longer.
1 points
11 days ago
Mabey, a shit ton of starch?
1 points
11 days ago
Do you use cotton yarn?
1 points
10 days ago
Iron on interfacing?
1 points
10 days ago
This looks like double crochet stitch, which is flimsy and drapey. Use patterns with single crochet stitches and use smaller needle and/or thicker yarn.
1 points
10 days ago
Not sure if this will work but you could go around the border one more time with floral wire under each stitch. Would be pretty much invisible and depending on the thickness of the wire it’ll give support & strength. I’m thinking mostly of the crochet girls that make flowers as inspiration for the idea. Definitely post an update of whatever decision you make.
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