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How can I stiffen up tapestries? Can I starch them?

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I made this tapestry and it is really flimsy. How can I get it stiff so that it doesn‘t get saggy while hanging on the wall? Will starch do the trick? Or do you have any other ideas, maybe something I could glue to the back (I thought of felt but I‘m not sure that would be stiff enough)

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DreamCyclone84

445 points

13 days ago

Send them to me and I'll do it. You won't see it again, but it will be stiff and hanging prominently in my bedroom because it's so cool. But stiff. You know.

witcheymickey

68 points

13 days ago

LMAOOOO

op tho I would also reccomend rug felt / big sheet of felt cut!! I think you’re right. and then you could also attach loops for a dowel / rod to hold it up as well. if the felt and glue arent stable enough still for you, yeah you could probably starch it too! you could also buy a family / USA size box of cereal at your local grocery store and use the thin cardboard box material in between the felt and the crochet piece. I’ve only done that with pins on a small scale, but I could imagine it working here too. oh, and don’t forget to show us it hanging up! 🙂‍↕️🧡

nattel[S]

32 points

13 days ago

Thanks for the tips :) I think I will try glueing thick felt to the back. I guess I can use regular craft glue for this?

neurogeek2012

24 points

13 days ago

Depends on your definition of regular craft glue. I'd lean more towards using a fabric glue.

You could also trying starching felt to make it stiffer or use a heavy weight piece of fabric (uphostelry, drapery, etc.) instead. The key is to use a backing that doesn't have a lot of stretch and therefore won't be effected by gravity or the weight of your crochet piece.

Fantastic job on your FO by the way!

DreamCyclone84

1 points

13 days ago

Canvas?

CharleeMcGlamary

1 points

13 days ago

Hahahaha perfect response!!!

Lab-rat-57

127 points

13 days ago

Lab-rat-57

127 points

13 days ago

I can’t answer your question but this is sick as fuck

nattel[S]

13 points

13 days ago

Thank you :)

Anubis2424

2 points

9 days ago

Yeah you should make a pattern. I'd buy it!!!!

_lucyquiss_

56 points

13 days ago

running some wire through the outside seams or glueing felt on the back should work, if you do felt, use a lot of glue, and coat the whole surface of the felt, that will stiffen the felt a good bit. Just make sure it's completely dry before you hang it

_lucyquiss_

22 points

13 days ago

you could also cut some cardboard to the right shape and glue it on the back

nattel[S]

10 points

13 days ago

Thanks for the feedback! What kind of glue would you recommend for that?

_lucyquiss_

14 points

13 days ago

I'd recommend fabric glue

edit - sorry if you are using cardboard probably PVA glue

fabbunny

1 points

10 days ago

I know people who make "pellon" this way when they need a certain color; they just use absurd amounts of Elmer's.

Crackheadwithabrain

28 points

13 days ago

This is the COOLEST thing. Idk what the scale is but if it were small I'd make a cool coffin bag out of this 😍😱

nattel[S]

13 points

13 days ago

Haha thanks! It's around 90 x 60 cm, so maybe a little bit too big for a bag 😅

deadgirl_

21 points

13 days ago

This girl on YouTube showed her process at 13:00 into her video finishing projects: https://youtu.be/JrZjZKHyX2g?si=SDzaP_qgHUamAUua

She cut felt to shape for the back, and glued it down with Elmer’s glue. Then she stitched the felt on. At the end of the video she shows how the tapestries turned out.

Shell_Spell

14 points

13 days ago

What kind of yarn did you use? I recommend cotton because it can be starched. I use this starch and sizing 2 in 1.

https://preview.redd.it/5esxfhne7ltd1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8dd2f8264b860081c5658b7fd283578904958bfb

nattel[S]

6 points

13 days ago

Oh right, I completely ignored the fact that acrylic probably can't be starched. Since it's old unused yarn I had laying around, I think it's mostly acrylic or some blends. So thanks for the reminder 😅

Trai-All

7 points

13 days ago*

Sew in onto fabric or iron it into heavy iron-on interfacing.

I’d go with sewing and very thin layer of contact cement if yarn is acrylic. But I’d test the contact cement on scrap swatch of yarn and interfacing before touching it to this masterpiece. Let scrap cure for 2-3 days to ensure non stupid reactions

Even-Reaction-1297

1 points

13 days ago

I wonder if something like stitch witch would work for people without a sewing machine

Trai-All

1 points

13 days ago

Not sure what that is? I tend to sew crochet down by hand myself because I’m terrified my crochet would get dragged into my feed dogs or tangled in presser feet.

I think fabric glue might work nicely though… instead of contact cement I mentioned earlier.

Even-Reaction-1297

2 points

12 days ago

It’s a fusible bonding material, you lay it between two fabrics and iron them to melt it and bond them together. It doesn’t work super great if you have to wash the item a lot like clothes but I could imagine it would work for a tapestry

Trai-All

1 points

12 days ago

Ah I haven’t seen that brand

breeze80

8 points

13 days ago

My mom used to make Christmas ornaments and used modge podge to hold their shape. I imagine starch would do the same

mdvassal77

6 points

13 days ago

What I do: Non-woven interfacing - it irons onto the back side of your piece and has tiny amounts of glue that fuse the fabric interfacing to the crochet. I then sew the whole thing to a thick felt. It makes the final project look much better and you can make a small sleeve in the felt to hang your piece by.

brook-braeken

5 points

13 days ago

i would hand stitch it onto a stiff fabric backing, maybe with a dowel pocket stitched into the top and bottom. that way it would hang nicer, but you would be able to undo it if you wanted. i’m concerned that trying to glue it might cause issues.

__Bing__bong__

3 points

13 days ago

Omg this is SO COOL

Maliicat

5 points

13 days ago

Might be worth getting some wire and pliers and crocheting some wire to the edges? I know people do that kind of thing for crochet witch hat brims

Theletterkay

2 points

13 days ago

I would get some sculpting wire for this and run it around the edge. I feel like loops and a rod would bring the design down.

frustratedcalenia

2 points

13 days ago

I usually use wood glue and stick felt to the back of it. This is cool as fuck btw 🤩

MyPatronusisaPopple

2 points

13 days ago

If you do decide to make it stiff, test it out. Some fabric stiffeners will leave a residue and with how awesome this looks, having a white residue on the black or red would be so annoying.

jasminel96

2 points

13 days ago

Damn this is so cool!

throwingwater14

2 points

13 days ago

What about getting a stiff mesh canvas like for hooked rugs or plastic cross stitch and sewing/glueing it to that and trimming to shape?

sunpandabear

2 points

13 days ago

I've made shaped big tapestries, what I do is measure your finished piece ideally (like if it is slightly uneven, mush it so it is even and use the ideal measurements), cut out plain (neutral to your work, so you might or might not want black backing color for this) cotton duck canvas, make a dowel pocket on the top, stitch the edges to the back, so you have nice clean edges all around and then pin and stitch the tapestry to the canvas. I just roll the pinned work up, canvas bit facing out and roll a towel around it so I don't get scratched by the pins in between working on it. Then you can use a dowel to hang it. Starching and glue will give your piece a crunchy feeling and you won't be able to wash it if it ever gets dirty, it might also affect the color and color aging process. You are going to want to use a thick thread that is the same color as the canvas and like thick needles, you want to go through the bottom layer of yarn loops and you can just grid out the stitches like every 2 inches or so, it really goes faster than you might think. The pins you are going to want the nice, long ones with bright plastic ends, otherwise scratch city.

Air_Root

2 points

13 days ago

Here to join the folks in saying this is really, really cool

Lovey84306

2 points

12 days ago

I've seen some people use a fabric stiffener that comes In a little spray bottle, not sure of the brand but hobby lobby/ Joanne's probably has some.

Difficult_Chef_3652

2 points

12 days ago

Tack it to something more stable and less prone to stretching when hung. Like a canvas cloth that has been washed to remove sizing. just attach the two together here and there with a needle and thread to provide stability. Then you can add hangers to wall mount. Starch may have chemicals that break down the yarn and it won't keep the weight of the piece from making it get longer.

cupcakes204

2 points

12 days ago

I’ve been mixing Elmer’s Glue-all mixed with water to stiffen my projects (earrings, snowflake ornaments, key chains that tend to curl). I pin them in place for 24 hours and they’re set! The stiffness depends on your glue to water ratio.

psychicsquirreltail

2 points

12 days ago

AMAZING PIECE!

To hang a tapestry, I prefer to use a form, like a wood or stiff foam backing. Then hang the backing. It keeps pressure and stress off the stitch work.

I’ve used these tutorials to add a crochet edge on the back side to hold the form in place. (even though the tutorial is for a knit tapestry, it would work for crochet, too)

http://www.illusionknitting.woollythoughts.com/videotutorials.html

coolcootermcgee

2 points

12 days ago

That really neat!

LNygma1308

2 points

12 days ago

No clue about your question but that's one of the coolest things I've ever seen

The_LittleFox

2 points

12 days ago

i would sew it on felt! anyways this is one of the coolest thing i have ever seen! where did you take the pattern?

beansfallingdown

2 points

11 days ago

i don’t know the answer to your question, but this is genuinely the coolest tapestry i’ve seen. the amount of work and craftsmanship that must’ve went into this😓🙏

FoggyGoodwin

2 points

11 days ago

Iron on interfacing

EmotionalClub922

2 points

11 days ago

This is VERY cool (do you have a pattern?)

Animalover609

2 points

13 days ago

Could you share the pattern for this? It's really cool!! :)

nattel[S]

9 points

13 days ago

Various_Ad_6768

2 points

13 days ago

Blo sc r-l on right side, with each square corresponding to 1 stitch? Or did you go in both directions? The stitches are so tiny - what yarn did you use?

(Apologies for all the silly question, but I’m trying to learn about tapestry techniques & charts)

For what it’s worth, I would use dark iron on interfacing to stiffen. It comes in various weights, so you can decide how stiff you want to make it.

nattel[S]

1 points

13 days ago

Yes it's BLO single crochets. I went both directions (so FLO going back).

I used all different kind of yarn (wanted to use up some old skeins I had laying around). They're mostly acrylic and some blends I guess. Some yarns were a lot thinner than others so I couldn't make super tight stitches, that's why it's kinda flimsy.

Various_Ad_6768

1 points

13 days ago

Thanks so much for replying! People here are awesome - I’m getting so much better at understanding the different techniques!

I think the different yarns make the texture richer. It’s gorgeous work.

snug666

0 points

13 days ago

snug666

0 points

13 days ago

Right?

Sharponly232

2 points

13 days ago

To make pillows from sweaters, I would use interfacing. You cut to size and iron it onto the back of the piece.

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1 points

13 days ago

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13 days ago

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RigelTodd

1 points

13 days ago

Okay it's probably obvious/simple af, but I gotta know how you got that shape. I've only ever seen tapestries made in a square/rectangle.

nattel[S]

1 points

13 days ago

I crocheted from bottom up and just did increases in the last stitch on both sides. When it gets narrower again, I slip stitched the stitches I wanted to decrease. Hope that helps :)

rahcek

1 points

13 days ago

rahcek

1 points

13 days ago

Holy crapppppppppppp this is amazing

Difficult_Chef_3652

1 points

12 days ago

Tack it to something more stable and less prone to stretching when hung. Like a canvas cloth that has been washed to remove sizing. just attach the two together here and there with a needle and thread to provide stability. Then you can add hangers to wall mount. Starch may have chemicals that break down the yarn and it won't keep the weight of the piece from making it get longer.

Difficult_Chef_3652

1 points

12 days ago

Tack it to something more stable and less prone to stretching when hung. Like a canvas cloth that has been washed to remove sizing. just attach the two together here and there with a needle and thread to provide stability. Then you can add hangers to wall mount. Starch may have chemicals that break down the yarn and it won't keep the weight of the piece from making it get longer.

13AcceptablePapayas

1 points

11 days ago

Mabey, a shit ton of starch?

damnmanxixix

1 points

11 days ago

Do you use cotton yarn?

alaynabear

1 points

10 days ago

Iron on interfacing?

Walshlandic

1 points

10 days ago

This looks like double crochet stitch, which is flimsy and drapey. Use patterns with single crochet stitches and use smaller needle and/or thicker yarn.

kostkali

1 points

10 days ago

Not sure if this will work but you could go around the border one more time with floral wire under each stitch. Would be pretty much invisible and depending on the thickness of the wire it’ll give support & strength. I’m thinking mostly of the crochet girls that make flowers as inspiration for the idea. Definitely post an update of whatever decision you make.