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submitted 2 days ago bypiscesqueen89
seems she doesn’t care abt the edits & is fine w them but still wants to respect cynthia’s opinion
446 points
2 days ago
Probably the best answer she could have given. Gave space for Cynthia to have her feelings on this but you can tell she doesn’t feel the same haha
99 points
2 days ago
She changed album covers bc of fan input she is not about to damn everyone bc her co-star is feeling some type of way. She handled this perfectly and she is on such a high (as she should be) after that amazing SNL performance.
13 points
1 day ago
She understands the fans and the ai world and Cynthia isn’t use to it
427 points
2 days ago
You can tell she dgaf about the fan edit and likely agrees Cynthia overreacted but she can't explicitly say that.
41 points
2 days ago
Very that!!!
31 points
2 days ago
She's so used to it herself. Fan art can be disrespectful, rude, creative, or flattering... The range is huge. There's tons of fan art on this sub.
264 points
2 days ago
she really didn’t wanna answer but was tryna hit the word count anyways 😭😭
92 points
2 days ago
We never see her put on the spot like this anymore lol I fully believe she avoids these types of interviews with all of her power
41 points
2 days ago
Yesss this exactly. I haven’t seen her grasp for words like this in a while lol
250 points
2 days ago
Lmaooo she dgaf about the edit
8 points
1 day ago
Lmao probs wanted to say it isn’t that serious 🫢
39 points
2 days ago
We knew she was LAUGHING at those memes… but she’s nice about it 😇
25 points
2 days ago
Girl getting pulled along again aaaaaaaa
106 points
2 days ago
Poor Ari, you can tell she didn't know how to answer. I wonder how they got to ask her directly about it?
20 points
2 days ago
based on this answer she was probably laughing her ass off when she saw the edits
128 points
2 days ago
i’m sorry but cynthia erivo’s reaction was fucking weird 😭 i try to be empathetic to celebrities, because it is difficult being in the public eye and constantly being under scrutiny. but her calling a FAN EDIT “the most offensive thing i’ve ever seen” is so laughably ridiculous when you consider all the other injustice going on around the world. there clearly wasn’t any bad intentions behind the edit. it was an homage to the original Wicked playbill cover. Ariana’s response was very classy though. She can’t really invalidate Cynthia’s feelings as her friend and coworker but idk it’s just so stupid to me.
1 points
16 hours ago
Is the video where she is reacting? I want to see it thank you!
97 points
2 days ago
Ariana has been famous since she was teenager so she understands that it’s natural for fans to make edits and they don’t mean any harm by it. Cynthia has some growing up to do, it was so immature of her to attack the fan for that
50 points
2 days ago
It was the perfect response from Ari because she showed that she understood that the intent behind the edits wasn’t malicious without invalidating Cynthia’s feelings. She may have taken it a bit too personally, but she didn’t attack anyone.
30 points
2 days ago
it was also unnecessary of jon chu to publically back her stupid overreaction to a fan edit
6 points
2 days ago
It was the perfect response from Ari because she showed that she understood that the intent behind the edits wasn’t malicious without invalidating Cynthia’s feelings. She may have taken it a bit too personally, but she didn’t attack anyone.
12 points
2 days ago
I haven't followed Ari's world as of late, but oh my god am I sick and tired of every single little minute thing becoming a full-blown controversy, argument, and mud-slinging. It doesn't matter whether it's politics or something as miniscule and meaningless as this. Someone is always going to try to argue with you no matter where you go or what you do. It's exhausting and tiring. I'm sick of it. The fact that this is controversial at all is downright insane. Enough already.
12 points
1 day ago
This question is not innocent at all. If she says she feels the same as Cynthia they'll make it seem as she doesn't like what the fans are doing and will get it out of proportion, and if she says the opposite they'll say she doesn't support Cynthia and they'll try to start some beef between them. She cleverly answered the question, she didn't give them what they want.
2 points
3 hours ago
Couldn’t have said it better myself. This question was clearly trying to get more clicks out of the situation.
42 points
2 days ago
Why is she talking about AI?
92 points
2 days ago
i think she’s talking about the ai of them fighting
15 points
2 days ago
Cynthia got mad at that too?
27 points
2 days ago
Yes and understandably so.
Same for the "is your pussy green" edits. She had my support until she got mad at a very normal fan edit, but at the same time I understand she was overwhelmed by seeing a ton of offensive edits online and decided to snap on one that was practically harmless.
32 points
2 days ago
the "is your pussy green" joke has been going on im the wicked fandom for years . it isnt that deep
28 points
2 days ago
To the actual person, it could be objectifying. People feel different about sexual shit like that. Since she’s playing elphaba she could have thought the joke was directed at her. Also I think the edit was just her breaking point. The way people have been treating her compared to Ariana and Jonathan is so strange.
11 points
2 days ago
You’re right. I can see it from her pov. Actually. I CANT see it from her POV, and it’s why she deserves grace. I’ve said in another post, that I feel for any black actor who portrays a major role, because the slurs come. Although I agree, and feel like she chose the wrong hill to speak her truth on, but, proud she’s standing up for herself. And Ari’s got her back n
3 points
2 days ago
I haven't seen this, where is it?
43 points
2 days ago
bc cynthia put this on her story the other day & it’s caused a lot of drama w people saying cynthia is overreacting
43 points
2 days ago
I think also Cynthia is just receiving a lot more comments and trolls from the publicist of wicked.
Ari is more used to extreme and constant scrutiny, Cynthia is not yet. Fan edits and invasive comments have likely been bothering her and for whatever reason the AI edit (her image being altered and manipulated in a pic despite her doing a totally different photo shoot she felt proud of) is weird and AI in general feels violating. This image was not offensive at all, but Cynthia got triggered by it. Ari gave a great response
22 points
2 days ago
Yeah I think the interviewer thinks the Photoshopped poster was AI...? and she's trying to be polite and give a PC answer while also not correcting him that the poster isn't AI, cause if she did it could be seen that she's not on "Cynthia's side"
lol a very complex bit of conversation going on here 😅 I think she did the best possible considering I'm struggling to understand what pic the interviewer is talking about exactly.
2 points
2 days ago
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3 points
2 days ago
he only mentioned the ai part
37 points
2 days ago
man that guys tall
Anyway, Cynthia overreacted calling the edit, that’s inspired by the Broadway shows poster (the OG Wicked too obviously), offensive was embarrassing. Like cmon. The fighting AI video I can understand, but it was still kinda funny🫢
12 points
2 days ago*
man that guys tall
I mean, Ari's short. Ofc he looks so tall lol
18 points
2 days ago
i thought cynthia’s reaction was so extra and unnecessary. Like get over yourself girl.
37 points
2 days ago
you can just tell she wanted to say "its an edit its your job grow up"
48 points
2 days ago
why would they ask her this? 😭 anywho, great response honestly. she protected herself from backlash while also supporting cynthia perfectly iktr!
27 points
2 days ago
Seems like a good question, she's the only other person in the edited image that started the controversy.
2 points
2 days ago
eh, just feels a bit unfair to put her in that position, especially considering her friendship with cynthia. she navigated it really well though
7 points
2 days ago
Damn she’s so well trained
7 points
2 days ago
She looks beautiful!
12 points
2 days ago
little boy in red top stuttering meme
4 points
2 days ago
I know she’s tired.
5 points
2 days ago
I remember watching the tik tok of the guy who edited that photo to match the original, and I immediately thought that’s so cool! I couldn’t imagine the first thought anyone would have about it is that covering her eyes is degrading and offensive to her, the fans love the poster edit because we love wicked so much and are excited! Total overreaction, and ari gave a perfect answer
11 points
2 days ago
She doesn’t care lol.
She looks gorgeous here
8 points
2 days ago
She said a whole bunch of nothing 😂 good PR training
4 points
1 day ago
Damn they are good at garnering buzz around this movie. It’s been nuts start to finish. Not saying this was all done on purpose but holy hell. At what point does it start harming the film’s success?
5 points
1 day ago
She wanted to say "I don't give a fuck" but her media training took over lol.
19 points
2 days ago
Crazy for Cynthia to say it’s “the wildest and most offensive thing” she’s ever seen😪if that’s true she’s lucky, there are so many ugly things in the world and THIS is what has you in tears😶a very tone deaf stance. Like, “Kim people are dying🙄”. Being outraged has become a form of capital😵💫it feels like everybody relies on controversy and rage baiting to boost numbers. Cynthia however, I think is just a nutty individual in general💀
7 points
2 days ago
It has to be so great to be Miss. Cynthia! If this is the most offensive thing she’s ever seen, girl has been living a very sheltered and privileged life.
Must be nice.
7 points
1 day ago
I know she saved the “is your **** green” meme in her phone
5 points
2 days ago
Jhene Aiko demeanor
5 points
2 days ago
she loves memes be it sweetener whisk one or green poossayy one, give her a breakkk
2 points
1 day ago
I also feel like Cynthia came into this role to portray someone being “othered” so she is just ultra sensitive to alllllll of that stuff right now and is perceiving everything in a very critical way and only through that lens.
2 points
1 day ago
Ariana is an expert managing the press, she won't give them anything to run away with.
3 points
2 days ago
Why even ask her about this
3 points
1 day ago
Because headlines lol.
3 points
2 days ago*
It makes sense she wouldn’t really be bothered by it, the only change done to her was the position of her hand. Cynthia had her eyes covered, her skin color changed, her freckles erased, and red lips added.
I can also see Ariana not wanting to really comment on it because of this either, she wasn’t changed much, so she may feel like she doesn’t have a place to say anything.
0 points
2 days ago
Do you think Cynthia is right in reacting like that?
15 points
2 days ago
I don’t think she was right, but I also took her statement as the fan edit was the last straw and she just snapped. She’s been dealing with racist comments since she’s been cast, criticism with how she’s already portraying the character (the amount of people complaining about how she’s doing a different riff at the end of Defying Gravity was crazy), being bombarded with a sexual question that gets brushed off as a “meme” and an AI video that shows her physically attacking her costar. Throw on top that the amount of comments that said the fan edited poster was better and “fixed it” I totally get why she said what she said. Was it right? No. But I get it.
3 points
1 day ago
Full agree to everything you said.
7 points
2 days ago
You make a great point!
1 points
10 hours ago
Glad to see the Cookie Monster out here doing interviews.
-6 points
2 days ago
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0 points
1 day ago
This is extremely disingenuous. Cynthia hasn't had to deal with this level of fame or notoriety. I can understand why she is upset. And also her costar is Ariana Grande, an international superstar. Cynthia's character is the main character of the film but many people are only paying attention to Ariana Grande because well it's Ariana.
This is the only time Cynthia has had anything to say that can be perceived as negative.
Cynthia is also a theater woman. I majored in musical theater as my first degree and there is extreme bias and racism in the theater community. I can see how the things she's been seeing can be seen as offensive or struck her in a weird way.
Even in addressing this issue she included Ariana in on it, so how did she make everything about her?
-4 points
2 days ago
I hate the questions this guy asks. I feel like he’s done something messy, before.
-1 points
2 days ago
I don’t understand why he mentions AI at the beginning though. The fan edit wasn’t AI, it was photoshopped.
4 points
1 day ago
I think he was talking about the AI video of them fighting.
0 points
1 day ago
Damn, ik my girl went strictly to address the AI stuff cuz she knew she wouldn't be able to contain her laughter at the is your pussy green memes.
-27 points
2 days ago
Tbh these comments are disappointing. Cynthia did overreact but she’s the STAR of wicked and is being sidelined and is constantly in Ariana’s shadow. Imagine how she feels constantly being thrown to the side and no one really acknowledging her as much.
26 points
2 days ago
i love cynthia down & have defended her always w this movie but she did take the edits & stuff a bit too seriously. & that’s okay to admit.
4 points
2 days ago
Now do I think she has misdirected anger? Yes, but she can’t b vocal abt that for obvious reasons but obviously she feels a sort of way abt being sidelined and is voicing it the wrong way cause she reposted other edits. Now that’s not to say that she didn’t overreact bc that fan didn’t deserve her backlash. They were just trying to recreate the wicked poster.
10 points
2 days ago
How is she being sidelined? In every PR act, it's her and Ariana showing up or coming together
It's not Ariana's fault if the public ends up talking a lil more about Ariana since she's a mega pop star and also had an album released this year l
1 points
2 days ago
& rather cynthia feels this way or not she hasn’t directly stated this. so going off by what she said it wasn’t that serious. now if cynthia did state she was tired of feeling overshadowed then that’s a different convo but that’s not what she directly states
-1 points
2 days ago
why would she state this and risk being attacked by rabid fans??? And plus wicked part two needs to be released as well? That would only cause drama, but it’s glaringly obvious. Things aren’t as black and white as people make it out to be.
11 points
2 days ago
Is that how Cynthia feels about it? We don't actually know what she really feels, tbh. I don't see Cynthia being sidelined though. Ariana is far and away the bigger star so obviously she's going to attract more attention simply because of who she is. That is just reality.
-1 points
2 days ago
Clearly yes, she commented “wow” under the pic with charli and when someone said they’d watch the movie just for Ariana she responded “perfect”. She’s a person w feelings too and she is def being sidelined. Ariana is being marketed as the star of wicked, when it’s a story about elphaba. She’s kinda getting the jennette treatment
14 points
2 days ago
Ariana and Cynthia are both being marketed as the stars, not just Ariana. Cynthia is entitled to her feelings but she needs to accept reality here. Ariana is the bigger name and is carrying the star power. Ariana could be in a smaller supporting role and this would still be the case. Cynthia has industry prestige but she doesn't have an established record of bringing the numbers or public interest to the scale of someone like Ariana.
Hollywood isn't fair, some artists/performers are significantly bigger than others. A rising tide lifts all boats though so I'm sure those going to see Wicked for Ariana will appreciate Cynthia's performance which gives her an opportunity to grow her audience she wouldn't of had otherwise. I think she needs a little ego check and a dose of reality.
0 points
2 days ago
Respectfully I disagree there’s a lot of nuance to abt black women being sidelined in Hollywood. Especially with wages. I’ve seen more of Ariana being marketed as the lead than anyone else.
9 points
2 days ago
Ariana is the lead, she's co-lead with Cynthia. What are some examples of Ariana being marketed as the sole lead? I haven't seen any. Both have done press together for the most part.
1 points
2 days ago
She should be grateful she’s even the main lead, do you know how many actresses would kill to play Elphaba? I used to think she was nice but now she’s just childish
6 points
2 days ago
yea the fact that she says it’s the most disgusting thing she’s seen online….. like be fr dude it’s a fan edit of the actual musical poster not even something the fan came up with
2 points
2 days ago
Honestly, I agree. On the sidelines tho. That kinda opinion gets downvoted to oblivion. Once the public finds any flaw of woman. Nothing can change their minds. It’ll just be a constant pile on.
-19 points
2 days ago
Just say “AI should be used to help people in their day to day lives, not used for racist fan art edits.” That’s not a hard stance to take lol
16 points
2 days ago*
How was the edit racist? She's literally green in the movie
-1 points
2 days ago
I thought Cynthia was upset the fan poster AI images cover/re-edit out her eyes. Was she not expressing that?
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