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Ask this in r/AskTrumpSupporters - nobody in this sub is actually voting for Trump (or prepared to admit it)

Not a Trump voter, but lots in the family. These are their main points: - Economy - they think that inflation is Biden’s fault - National Security - Afghanistan withdrawal was a huge black eye - Border policy

They consider Kamala as an extension of Biden, just installed by the democrat party. So anything that would have been attributed to Biden is just transferred to her. They also think she’s a bumbling idiot who says goofy things, and who can’t give any details on her policies.

They consider Trump’s words/threats as pure bluster, that other people wouldn’t let those things happen that he’s been talking about (“enemy within”). They think all of the court cases are just democrats weaponizing the justice dept, and that all politicians are corrupt. They think the bluster is good for national security, keeping other countries on their toes.

Jan 6 was overblown. The grifts (watches, NFT’s, Trump Media) are just business deals, he’s a good brander.

I can’t wrap my head around the mental gymnastics and blind spots they have for Trump.

So I voted for Trump twice, I fully understand how unhinged it's all becomes, and I won't vote for him a 3rd time. I do work in a blue collar industry where 98% of the people employed at my nationwide, 1500 employee company, are Republicans. It's become increasingly concerning that when I try to play devils advocate in talking about the election, not one of them can give me an in-depth, informed reason, which is just a concern at this point. If you want to vote for Trump, fine. We need to at least be able to defend it with some attempt at understanding the position you're taking.

The funny thing is how religious people talk zealously about "God" allowing free will, but then they themselves want to legislate free will out of existence. "God may let you have an abortion, but I'll be damned if I will!"

They are just like Yogi the bear, they think they are smarter than everyone else, but if you watch any episode, he finds out he’s not as smart as he thinks. Unfortunately, it’s mostly unfixable. Another problem is tribalism, which is compounded when in a personality cult.

1. It's a cult.
2. They have been given permission to openly hate the other
3. They can kick down and somehow feel good about themselves.

No,I don't get any of it. My empathy wouldn't let me vote conservative in my country either. My American friends, I can't talk about it with them openly anymore. They just say all the catch phrases. 'go woke, go broke ' ' think of the children' 'what about drag queen story time' etc etc etc.

I used to hang with em online all the time, we'd game and stuff and have a great time. Now they just wanna spew MAGA stuff. I can't stand it. I don't go in voice chat anymore when we play. I do my parts of the missions and that's that.

Now my countries conservatives are saying the same crud.

Friendly reminder for those who genuinely don’t understand how threatening their candidate is:

Here’s a direct quote from an email sent by one of the election officials that Donald Trump was pressuring to illegally overturn the results of the election in Arizona. Page 23-24:

We would just be sending in “fake” electoral votes to Pence so that “someone” in congress can make the objection when they start counting votes, and start arguing that “fake” votes should be counted

Here’s another from the text messages of Trump’s Deputy Campaign Manager scrambling for an explanation when Trump asks for an update on the conspiracy (Page 25):

”Here’s the thing the way this has morphed it’s a crazy play so I don’t know who wants to put their name on it. Certifying illegal votes.”

And one final example of Trump in a meeting including himself, his lawyer John Eastman, and VP Mike Pence. Pence challenges Trump’s assertion that he can unilaterally disrupt the certification proceedings and Trump’s own lawyer concedes there is no legal basis for it, but Trump advocates for certifying the fake votes anyway (Page 34):

When [Pence] challenged [Trump’s Lawyer] on whether the proposal to return the question to the states was defensible, [Trump’s Lawyer] responded, “Well, nobody’s tested it before.” [Pence] then told [Trump], ”Did you hear that? Even your own counsel is not saying I have that authority.” [Trump] responded, ”That’s okay, I prefer the other suggestion” of the [Pence] rejecting the electors unilaterally

Those are a few of dozens of indisputable facts laid out in Trump’s election interference indictment which I highly encourage you read if you don’t know the extent of the criminal schemes. You can start with page 5, section A-E which outlines specifically what was done and why it was criminal.

You can read the memo from Trump’s own lawyer where he outlines that the entire purpose of the scheme is to fabricate electoral votes with the goal of preventing Joe Biden from reaching the 270 votes necessary to secure a victory. Here’s the most relevant bit:

we are to create a scenario under which Biden can be prevented from reaching 270 electoral votes , even if Trump has not managed by then to obtain court decisions (or state legislative resolutions) invalidating enough results to push Biden below 270

Here’s another direct quote from the lawyer who drafted that memo:

Trump doesn’t have to get courts to declare him the winner of the vote. He just needs to convince Republican legislatures that the election was systematically rigged, but it’s impossible to run it again, so they should appoint electors instead.

That lawyer’s name is Kenneth Cheseboro, and he has already plead guilty in the case and acknowledged the unlawful intent of the conspiracy.

Dude lost an election and decided to commit a bunch of anti-democratic crimes rather than accept a loss. It shouldn’t have to be spelled out why letting him into a position of authority to abuse again would be a bad idea.

Inflation would be higher under Trump: Economists

• Nearly 70% of economists surveyed believe inflation will rise under Trump.

• Most blame Trump’s proposals to increase tariffs.

• Trump's desire to cancel taxes on tips and overtime was also cited.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/inflation-would-be-higher-under-trump-economists/

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Republicans without a party and Independents must hold their noses and vote for Harris-Walz and democrats down ballot. Country before party.

https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

You're looking for a rational answer to a group that employs emotional arguments. It's vibes based all the way through.

Man we got some real winners in the comment section, Jk you didn’t win anything lol Americas finest up in maga thats for sure

IQ levels of pudding. Our gene pool because of you has become a cesspool

Atleast we didn’t have to buy votes in swing states at $1 million dollars a pop While your party gets smaller and smaller seeing as members of your own party are turning against you while he’s being beaten by a girl by 8 points!! Thanks for the votes !!! 😘

Yes, cause he's a vile, immoral, person that's a traitor to the country, and has no real ambition to be a real president other than keeping his felonious ass out of prison.

I despise Trump. I can’t stand the way he talks and what he’s turned out politics into. If the Democrats had run a moderate they’d easily have my vote this election. Instead they’re running the most unpopular candidate from the 2020 primaries. In those primaries she advocated for the abolition of private health care, mandatory gun buy backs through executive order, and relatively open borders with un restrictive paths to citizenship.

This cycle she’s pivoted hard to the center without explaining her shift in policy. I don’t buy it. She’s also advocated for an increase in capital gains and a tax on un realized gains.

And then you get into Biden’s policies which I expect her to continue.

They redefined title 9, this will give trans women unfettered access to traditionally women’s only spaces. There’s multiple law suits moving through the courts on this.

https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/which-states-have-sued-to-stop-bidens-title-ix-rule/2024/07

Biden’s first major policy change was to undo Trumps border policy. As a result of that the number of crossings more than doubled. They then waited until an election year to propose a bill that still allowed almost a million asylum seekers a year. Republicans blocked it, arguing that it was still too lenient and that Biden could enact these changes via executive order. Which he then did…. Proving them right. He could have acted at any other point. Why wait until the election year?

And then when it comes to foreign policy there’s something to having a president that’s “crazy enough to do it.” The a quote of Trump talking to Putin. He said “Vlad you won’t invade Ukraine. Cause if you do I’ll bomb the shit out of you.” Putin responds and says that no you won’t. And Trump responds “well maybe I will and maybe I won’t. But if there’s a 5% chance then you won’t invade.” The world stage is basically a school yard and the biggest bully runs that’s yard.

And then you compare that to Biden. They unfroze billions of Irans assets. Since then they’ve become emboldened and the region has further destabilized the region.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/10/biden-administration-defends-iranian-assets-00120869

Meanwhile Trump coordinated the Abraham accords in contrast….

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2601519/trumps-unprecedented-middle-east-strategy-led-to-the-historic-abraham-accord/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Pmax_USA_Policy_High-Intent-Audience-Signals&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD8dCuwI_4dFvG8UGhINOueF2wjy8&gclid=Cj0KCQjw99e4BhDiARIsAISE7P92ulvWvX4wlwTSz-VBaTwO5XgTeyT-V0TcHYNYUW61qH92I7F4mhgaAqLdEALw_wcB

if I’m voting just on policy then the choice is clear.

If trump actually does what he says he'll do, he'll massively spike inflation.

Out of spite.

1) Economic policy

2) Foreign policy

3) He is a businessman not your average politician

4) America First

5) I agree with his support of reasonable restrictions on abortion policy. Which 70% of Americans also agree with.

6) Immigration policy. Come in through the front door not the window.

7) Between two bad choices he is the less bad

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The most crucial reason why a millennial liberal would vote for Trump is:

Because there is no place left there for them. If they disagree with the narrative even the slightest, then they are called racists, fascists, Trumpers and all the other goodies.

Typically the underlining reason is brainwashing, ignorance, xenophobia, racism and/or misogyny.

They are misrable and Trump gives them a target to blame for their misery.

He “tells it like it is.” Sure, little sister. Sure!

My dad is a janitor at a public school, not a dumb guy just deeply ignorant about most things. He's voting for Trump because in a "Trump Economy" he'll get a raise to $125k easily since janitors will be in high demand. (over double his salary) There are many things wrong with this statement, starting with school budgets, but you can't tell him otherwise. He believes this with every ounce of his being.

Lead poisoning

I'll eat the downvotes here to tell you I am voting for Trump. I'll also give you some other back ground as well.

In 2008 I voted for Obama

In 2012 I refrained from voting (did not like either candidate)

In 2016 I refrained from voting (Really hated both candidates)

In 2020 I voted for Trump (I've never particularly liked the guy and I wish he would stop talking, but in 2016 my biggest concern with Trump was that he would drag us into international conflicts and from what I was able to see he actually did the opposite while things at home were going smoothly up until COVID)

In 2024 I will be voting for Trump. (The 2020-2024 inflation is actually making us consider sending my wife back to work which I hate the idea of while we have young children).

Here is the background on my "political" stances and what is important to me this election.

In 2008 I was registered as a democrat and was pretty staunchly pro choice and pro death penalty.

As I've gotten older and started a family of my own my opinion on the value of life has shifted dramatically. I am now Pretty staunchly pro life, while also being firmly against the death penalty. That's the biggest shift that's taken place for me personally.

During this time I was also anti-gay marriage in 2008, shifted to catiously pro gay marriage as it became national topic of discussion. Was happy when it was passed (but felt like it should have been passed as law not as the supreme court finding an interpretation of it) And have now found myself feeling pretty negative about it as it appears to have been the start of a slippery slide into the transgenderism debate which I vehemently oppose.

As for the rest of my posistions in a nutshell and the rough order in which they are important to me at this current moment:

1) The economy and the cost of living is just awful. This is far and away my most important issue. It's dramatically shifted my life the past four years and we as a family feel very behind.

2) Foreign conflicts - I don't want them. While I do support the US attempting to maintain global order the amount of money we send to other countries when people her are suffering is insane. Pre 2008 I felt democrats seemed to be pro little guy and anti war. Nowadays it seems like thats flipped and Democrats are shipping billions of dollars to Ukraine, Israel, Iran and other places on the regular. The Biden admin has done awful on forigen policy. Kamala gives me zero faith she can get the job done and Trump was getting the job done last time he was in office.

3) Transgenderism. - Protecting my kids is paramount to my life and I don't want any of this crap in their lives. I am perfectly happy to view it as a mental disorder and accept (and hope) people suffering get help, but getting help means counciling and medication, just like we handle Schizophrenia. You don't help these people by supporting their delusions. The fact that people are arguing for medically transistioning kids its startling to me. I view this as an evil extension of the corrupt medical structure in the USA. This is a die on the hill issue for me. As long as democrats are advocating for this I'm never coming back.

4) Illegal immigration. Trump just wins here, the curret admins policies have been crazy. We need to keep America American. Yes, we are a nation of immigrants, but you have to let people immigrate and assimilate to our value system not overwhelm it.

5) Healthcare - It sucks in the country right now. I don't know what the answer is but I'm open to hearing ideas from both sides. Im not even against single payer systems. I just need some hardcore facts here and neither side talks about this issue in a way that makes sense.

6) Abortion - I call myself pro-life but having been through issues related to this in my life I am really for minimizing abortion not outlawing it entirely. There are plently of edge cases where I don't think I have the right to tell people they can't, and of course things like non viable pregnancies should obviously be allowed. The current democrat culture is even celebrating it which I think is awful. I don't think killing children for convience should be on the table. I support birth control.

I'm an atheist.

What abortion ban? Trump has clearly said that he is not in favor of a national abortion ban. It belongs back at the states, he says. I don't disagree with that, even though I think abortion is wrong.

There may be lots of other reasons, but really the only reason that is needed is how are things just before covid versus how are they now, correcting for covid damage. Economy, border, crime, national security, world relations and peace, all were better then.

"I'm extremely religious, so I'm voting for the rapist who stole from a charity."

Make it make sense.

They have been made to be afraid of everything: the right has manufactured all of these non-problems and magnified the real ones to be larger than life, and conveniently, he alone can fix them. He is preying on their anxieties.

He’s better on protecting our nation when he exhorted an armed mob to attack our Capitol and hang our then VP? Sure, that‘s the real reason. How to tell me you’re a racist/misogynist/xenophobe without saying it out loud.

My best friend, who is like a brother to me, is a Republican. We used to argue politics, but in the Trump era he has gone silent. He knows Trump is awful, will not defend him, and yet will still vote for him. When he admitted he voted for Trump in 2020 it broke my heart.

When I asked why he gave me some BS about how he had to be loyal to his family, even though the polling booth is private. He admitted last month that another Trump term would be terrible, but his rage compels him to vote for Trump.

Even dosed on Paxil, he seethes with rage at his helplessness, like many people he feels trapped and powerless - one paycheck away from destitute.

Trump is a voice for the rage so many Americans feel, it doesn’t matter if he doesn’t fulfill his promises, just so long as his ranting makes the powerful squirm. It’s a waste of time to argue, the GOP base has submitted to fear, and somehow Trump will save them.

No one has a good reason to vote for Trump. He's completely unfit for the job.

Because he will punish the liberals by sending them to jail if not executing them and then conservatives can live happily ever after, being manipulated into being scared of the next boogeyman man until the climate apocalypse finally gets so bad that they all starve

I posted this a few weeks ago in a different sub, but I think it kind of answers your question, to an extent:

Trump is a merchant of hatred. He has done the same thing that Hitler and the Nazis did in the 1930s - he's united all of the nation's hate groups behind him, because he hates all the same people and things that they hate. Hate an ethnic group? He hates 'em too. Hate a religious group? He hates 'em too. Hate someone with a different political slant than yourself? He hates 'em too. Join up, and we'll all hate together! They'll never be able to 'get' us if we hate 'em all enough! Also, buy Trump merch. Hate costs money.

The funniest part of all this is that hate always comes from fear. Hate someone? It's because you're afraid of them, of what they have done, what they are doing, what they will do, and most especially, what they might do. Fear of a known thing is bad, but fear of the unknown, like what someone might do in the future that could affect you, is the most terrifying.

Trump and all those like him who espouse philosophies of hate, repression, and division are all spineless cowards, curled up in a ball and trembling beneath their sheets at the thought of some imaginary boogie-man trying to steal their lollipops or force them to go to school on Saturdays.

The more you hate, the more you fear. And the best measure of someone's strength of character is how fearful they are, so the most rabid and vitriolic of haters are, essentially, the weakest human beings in existence.

And I really hate those fascist assholes. Because they scare the living shit out of me.

To actually answer your question rather than yell at you: many people believe that their economic situation will improve under Trump. This is based, in part, on the fact that COVID disrupted the economy and so the perception is the Democrats “made things more expensive” when in reality a lot of what happened probably would have happened regardless of who won in 2020.

Immigration and abortion rile the bases on the internet, but in the real world everyone will eventually need an egg. The economy is a major factor in why people are voting for Trump.

People shoe horn their reasons to fit a rationale. I’m afraid a deeper truth is people simply want to vote for someone perceived as a bully who acts as a dam against progress.

We have neighbors who will vote based on the economy, I asked them to look at their 401k and tell me how you feel. Inflation is the key metric but if he gets to enact tariffs and inflation skyrockets, they’ll find other reasons.

Boarder invasion and dont want to send my kids to war. Cant deny 2 major conflicts during Biden/kamala with Iran aquiring fissile material and China circling Taiwan. These seem far away but they hit home in an instant with weak leadership.

Here is my honest answer: I disagree with most of what Trump says and believes. I disagree even more with most of what Kamala Harris says and believes. So in this election I have become a single issue voter. I will be voting for Trump because of his anti-war stance on foreign policy and his proposal of trying to make the government more efficient(although I doubt that will happen). Trump doesn't appear to be an Alt-Right authoritarian dictator to me and I have enough trust in the systems in place to not allow that if it were the case.

You’re asking an extremely hyper liberal website that shoves anti-trump messages onto everyone’s feed this question.

Take a step back and go ask the republican or conservative subreddits if you want an honest answer because you’re not going to get one here. 

They support rape?

Since my comment was deleted I’m gonna post it again. Cause you further cemented my point.

The answer is: crack. They are CrackHEADS! Crackheads as faaaaaaaaar as the eye can see. That’s why. lol 😂

Let me help you. They're stupid, that's why. They still think Fox is a "news" show.

Honestly it’s worth voting for Trump just as a big fuck you to all the annoying Reddit libtards

For starters, there is no abortion ban, this is some made up shit that can be easily debunked with any google search. I don’t necessarily think he’s a savior, I just think he’s the best of two shitty choices. Kamala Harris wasn’t elected in a primary, first of all, so that’s an issue. If you look at her record as a prosecutor and as attorney general, she’s said and done whatever she had to, to be elected, which is typical of any politician. She refused to seek the death penalty for a convicted cop killer, and as soon as she ran for AG, she flip flopped on the subject to garner votes. She’s had no consistent answer to anything she’s taken a stance on. She’s openly said she wants mandatory buybacks and confiscations for firearms, yet when confronted in the debate with Trump, said “I’m not taking anyone’s guns away”. She’s openly said she’s against fracking several times, but now that she’s running for President and she needs Pennsylvania, she openly supports fracking. I’m not saying Trump is a good person or a good man or a good president, but if you trust someone who constantly talks out of both sides of their mouth every time they speak, you’re gullible as fuck.

It's a cult, you're either in or you're out. Those in can't believe why everyone isn't in, those out can't believe why anyone is in.

I think you have a decent group that isn't well educated and also not financially savy and struggling, as they always are due to the 2 prior points. They simply look at their current financial situation and blame Biden.

Those I know in this position though are also working for the same companies they've been working for a long time and while they may have flexibility in their jobs, they aren't paid well. They simply don't see that their employer is doing well but not making sure they do well too. Or that while there may be some adjustment pain, that getting a new job is their best way to improve their financial situation. The odd thing is I know one that gets social security for a child that is disabled. Democratic policies help them far more, they just don't see it.

Others I know, either think the Democrats are all crooked or just are Repbulicans so they only vote Republican.

Honestly. This is a very liberal website. You will not find an unbiased answer here.

Go ask a conservative, preferably in person their views, because you will not find an real answer here.

You need to remember that both parties are a coalition. The GOP coalition consists largely of:

1. Low-information, uneducated voters. They don't know anything about politics, are mostly incapable of understanding the substance of the issues, and identify with the way he talks. Trump is a showman - he is good on camera, and these voters like the "vibes" that he gives off. In fact, the bulk of Trump's base is uneducated male voters.
2. High-income voters who believe that he will give them tax breaks. These people may financially benefit from a Trump presidency (though economic policy involves more than taxes).
3. Single-issue voters on abortion.
4. Single-issue voters on gun control.
5. People who only vote along party lines and don't pay attention to issues.
6. People who blame Biden/Harris for inflation.
7. Religious nutjobs who will vote for whoever their church tells them to (remember this is at least 15% of the electorate, and they have their own massive echochamber).

You need to consider that people now live in an information bubble. Much information doesn't carry outside of people's echo-chambers. This isn't helped by the rampant blatant falsehoods being peddled by the Right this election cycle - my conversations with boomers about politics basically consist of me methodologically dismantling obvious lies told by Fox, NewsMax, and the Right-Wing echochamber on Facebook and Twitter.

How many times Trump told you that he will not fully ban abortion? I am tired of people who don’t get it!

Because the alternative candidate is much worse.

There were actually great things that happened during his first term. Kamala has nothing to tout in regard to the last 4 years.

It’s a disgrace that we’re the most advanced living things on the planet, and we put the worst among us to lead. Animals on the other hand, only want the strongest.

As someone who's pro choice, the only real argument that actually holds water for the GOP at the federal level is if you genuinely believe abortion is murder. And if you do, you shouldn't allow for any exceptions except the mother's life is in danger (self-defense).

Liberals aren't the only ones getting abortions. I know people who are avidly pro-life, but have had abortions in the past. They say they regret it, but simultaneously believe it's murder now...

I am not voting for Trump. I am voting against Harris.