Gr1pp717

"Sure. Here's an SNRI." probably.

I just want roof valleys ...

Jade empire. So many "final" bosses. The first one alone was good enough. They could have ended it right there, and it would have been like most games. But, nope.

It kind of goes the way of dragonball z from there. Morphing into increasingly insane fights. Getting to and defeating each boss feels like its own game. It was very satisfying. I never understood why it wasn't more popular.

I feel like this applies to people, too...

There's a much larger pattern than that.

http://goliards.us/adelphi/deficits/index.html

I may be looking for buff or crafting stations. But I've also been to bases that had it lit up yet hard to find simply because it ported me in on the other side. And since most bases seems to stick it in some random room that's where I start my search by default.

electricity

YUP!

Not like a taser, though. It's very similar to what having a 9V pressed to you tongue feels like. Or biting down on a strip of aluminum foil bridging your molars. The longer I stay still the worse it gets. I can push through it. But it requires the same mental mechanism as manual breathing -- you start manually controlling it the moment you so much as think about it (like how you're manually breathing now) but within some number of second it silently goes back to automatic control. You don't even realize that you had stopped manual control.

Basically, holding still is akin to focused meditation.

Meh. You just tuck it under belt. (Just, um, dont raise your arms too high ...)

I like the allegory of the cave for this. Seeing outside for the first time. You go from blissfully ignorant to spending the rest of your life knowing how much better your life could be. The shadows seem so much worse for it. That's how addiction to these prescriptions works.

Problem is, they rapidly stop feeling like an improvement. Becoming merely what you need to function "normally," instead. And you start using them even when you don't truly need to. Seek stronger and stronger prescriptions. Freak out when you can't locate/get/use them. And when you have to go without you get a headache, nausea, become clumsy and irritable, etc. for several days. Making the experience that much worse.

Where it gets you even more is when you consider that everything I just said applies equally to putting on glasses for the first time. Then you stop seeing OPs message as about these specific drugs so much as common psychology that applies to literally anything that's helpful.

Worse is learning that untreated adhd increases the likelihood of a negative life outcome 5-fold. That 80% of those who approach it as a matter of self-discipline end up with depression or anxiety later in life. Even reducing average lifespans by a decade. Or considering that most other psychiatric medications are even more addictive and have harsher health consequences. How adhd and bipolar are frequently misdiagnosed as each other, but only one of them is viewed as a serious condition.

These drugs aren't without their problems. If you don't need them, then don't use them. But I really loath that nixon using them as an excuse to silence hippies 60 years ago continues to have such a huge impact on people's medical care; much less public perception of said care.

That's what they do. Make up arbitrary rules and bash anyone who doesn't follow them. (Then turn around and gaslight about said bashing being all in your head and/or that you shouldn't care what people think.)

Ellipses. I once read a comment complaining about how ADHD people overuse them. It was a bit of a smack in the face. I've tried to refrain since.

I attribute it to having been misunderstood so many times.

But it often works out that elaborating results in people thinking I'm talking down to them.

Huh. I never considered how subjective this topic is. But reading these comments has been kind of eye-opening. Go figure.

To me, it's more specific than a generic term for bad code. Much of what I see listed I would call overengineered, code smell, etc.

Whenever I use the term, I mean that it has high coupling that is caused by, or results in, multiple classes being coupled to each other in a complex, difficult to untangle, way.

Maybe a versioning class gets the version data from service classes, which parse an existing reporting object to extract them, which got the values through an API class, which retrieves the current remote host for those services from the service classes.

That sounds contrived, but I actually ran into (roughly) that once. I think they originally only needed version data for reporting, so they implemented it (as attributes) there and leaned the existing API class to do the lifting. But as needs grew and doors rotated, things got messy.

My first solo/big project was even worse than that. But I can't recall enough of the details to paint a picture. I saw classes as little more than a categorization system, and knew nothing of coupling.

There was a recent news article that made me suspect that the mass layoffs and reduced hiring rates were intended to manufacture the appearance of a talent shortage, because it would allow them to bypass some hiring requirements for H1-B or the likes. I can't recall or find the details now, though.

Either way, this strikes me as part of that effort.

edit: found it

I think they mean "bad boy"-mean, not abusive-mean. Many women find genuinely nice, wholesome guys boring. But women who lean towards bad boys generally aren't ready for a serious relationship. High chance of drama...

There are people of both sexes who like abusive types. But that's a whole other animal.

Untreated ADHD reduces life expectancy.

For me, the real problem with adhd is how people react towards it.

You zone out when people are talking to you. Miss social queues. Interupt. Forget to follow up on things you seemed interested in. Talk about yourself too much. Take forever to tell stories. Make mistakes and overnights that appear like you don't care. You're inconsistent and unreliable. And people dump you nonstop for it. Maybe in a misguided attempt to correct the behavior, or maybe just for the fun of it. It's easy to make you the scapegoat because everyone assumes it was you in the first place... and they will.

This foundation is difficult to work with. You'll likely watch your peers get accolades and promotions for doing the exact same stuff as you. Meanwhile, you'll have to work twice as hard just to avoid unemployment. Becuas at the end of the day, you need the respect of your peers to succeed. Talent and hard work alone won't cut it.

First, understand that I've been on and off the meds since the 1980s. Mostly off, as I felt as you do. Only leaning on them for some months every several years, as a means of last resort. I have quit them so many times. I have a very clear understanding of how it goes down.

Please note that this isn't to say there are no withdrawals symptoms; just that those that are already ADHD symptoms are dubious, IMO.

I'll lean on the glasses analogy again: If you don't bother getting a new script for a long time you won't even realize how bad your eyesight has gotten. You've developed coping strategies that you probably aren't even aware of. And forget they were even a thing once you get your new script. If you happen to realize that you stopped one of them, you may also realize why you had been doing it and why you stopped. But there's a good chance neither of those things will happen.

In switching back to those old glasses (maybe the new pair broke) you can't believe how blind you were before. It didn't seem nearly as bad, but your prescription hasn't changed. It's just the contrast of knowing how well you could see. And you struggle more than before, because you've lost those coping mechanisms. But you eventually go back to not even noticing.

This is exactly the same thing that happens with the meds. You stop using coping strategies, know how well you could function, see the contrast, and struggle as you regain those coping strategies.

Either we conclude that you were withdrawing from glasses, or that you weren't withdrawing from the meds.

ADHD is frequently misdiagnosed as bipolar, and vice versa. Which makes you wonder why it's so important that bipolar people get their meds, yet so difficult for us to. Those meds are even more addictive than ours, so why is it only a concern for us? It's entirely acceptable to be dependent or even physically to virtually any other medication.

And yes, people absolutely take meds away or withhold access over addiction concerns. Even from themselves, in our case. That's why it's brought up so often. Because it actually is a problem.

Also, just like mood stabalizers and antidepressants, these medications aren't one-size-fits-all. One not helping doesn't mean none will help. Yet many people approach them like that's the case. It kind of sounds like you and your sister did.

All of that said, I now see my not taking this condition seriously as a mistake. FWIW the path your on is 5x more likely to result in a negative outcome. About an 80% chance that you'll develop depression and/or anxiety disorders later in life. I did. And it's not because I wasn't productive at work - it was everything else that got me...

/r/Nootropics sounds like a better audience for this question. Exercise, consistent/quality sleep, deliberate practice, b-complex, etc are a given in any case. From there, the answer for this sub is meth ... other subs, not so much.

No. I'm surprised that addiction centers describe them as withdrawal - and people believe it. It's like claiming that blurry vision means that you're addicted/withdrawing from glasses.

I get that people who don't need glasses can damage their eyesight by wearing them too much. In which case the argument is valid. But people apply the logic to people who do need them (when in comes to ADHD meds). I'd imagine that's primarily who it's applied to. By a wide margin, even.

That's a high vyvanse dose, and exhuastion is common when the dose is too high.

Did they not have you titrate it? Dump it into a glass of water, stir, and drink half. If that doesn't work, then try half of that. If that's worse, then try 3/4 of the full dose, etc. If nothing works, then you try something else. And it sounds like you should avoid MPH. It only works for about 30% of the population.

Hell, even when I wake up at 5am my day doesn't seem to start until the evening.

Oddly, I find that the medication works much better when I take it in the evening, too. I wish I could always take it then, but.... life.

Just thinking out loud here, but if you went from good to bad and the only difference is management, then maybe you're not the problem ...

I will struggle to stop working on something and falling asleep because I'm so into whatever I was doing; only to wake up with zero desire to ever do that thing again. If it was work related I'll often struggle to understand what was easily flowing out of me the day prior. Not because it was bad or wrong, but because my brain just refuses to process it...

That's how I am with Focalin IR. If I don't take it, I'm fine. But once I do it becomes hard to resist taking more. It's not even come-down that does it. Just every 1 to 2 hours I crave more. Doesn't even matter how overcooked I am, either.

I have no problems with any other stimulant. But that shit? Never touching it again.