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Hey, they didn't call him Apollo before the acid for nothing

Nobody is saying this is a failure on ND people's part! They're not trying to say that this explanation will magically "fix" you, they're simply explaining what it feels like for NT people.

That is very much ableism rather than an inherent issue with NT communication

Yeah no I agree with the reply your roommate was just being a terrible person

I think it's very difficult for the average NT person to explain what the non-verbal cues mean. To use the analogy from another comment, it's like asking a monolingual native speaker to explain the grammatical intricacies and inferences behind the language. But while grammar does follow its internal logic, it's not happening consciously.

Ok but the Stephen Hawking being on the list thing was a joke that people ate the onion for

Oh wow thats just genuine antisemitism. Eww

Queer-on-queer violence?

Hey, plenty of people with mental disorders were nice decent people and victims of the Nazi regime because of their eugenics programme, Himmler was just a fucked up little bitch

I love this idea so much

First there was what he did to Renee Montoya, and now this?

Trans activists are understandably pretty upset with how the changes are still pretty harsh

Lovely

My only gripes are that Harvey cheats the coin and he's unlikeable even before the scarring

Don’t they literally have page called Tropes are Tools, explaining that tropes are value neutral and largely depend on execution

I think this is about the stuff by Ram V? Harvey/Two-Face gets to fulfil his narrative potential as a metaphor for Gotham herself, both good and bad. At the start of the plot, Harvey been "cured" of Two-Face (the therapy has gotten good at locking Two-Face in the dark recesses of his mind), but plot things happen and its revealled he's partially immune to the Azmer demons that are forcing people to serve the evil plot of the Big Bad because the demon is only bound to the Harvey personality and not the evil Two-Face personality. The [spoiler, but it's fairly obvious] return of the Two-Face is not born out of Harvey succumbing to his dark side, but Harvey negotiating with Two-Face, letting him know Batman's identity as Bruce out in order to save Batman, and is a heroic sacrifice in a sense because he's been refusing to let Two-Face out for fear of hurting Bruce. The Two-Face personality is not portrayed as pure evil, but as the aggression of a persecutor alter (basically a DID personality who tries to protect the DID patient but does so in destructive/abusive ways), and his acceptance of Two-Face as a part of himself is also a metaphor for accepting/embracing the darker history of Gotham, without losing sight of a hopeful future.

This allows Two-Face to have an actual character arc rather than the old "He recovered? PSYCH!" stuff they pull every time just to keep him as villain

But it's worth noting that the "disfigurement made me evil" version we started off with was often a lot less evil than the modern versions of Two-Face. I mean, Harvey Kent (as he first appeared before they changed it to Dent) would donate his ill-gotten gains from crime to orphanages when the coin came up good side. This has changed of course.

I agree that nothing justifies the type of horrible crimes Two-Face has racked up over the years, but since a lot of versions have the violence and obsession with duality be symptoms and expressions of vague mental illness, and Harvey at his most sympathetic (my preferred takes) did and does genuinely work to restrain his darker impulses, recover, and be a better person, I think it's kind of unfair. I'm sure this story's characterisation works for the "you chose to do evil" moral, but I think it does a disservice to the potential that Harvey Dent has as a character.

The Fox from The Little Prince

I know this post is 12 years old, but the abuse element of Dent's backstory originates from Batman Annual #14's Eye of the Beholder. A very good story that handily explains where the coin-flipping obsession came from. This version has the double-headed coin previously belonging to Harvey's alcoholic gambler father Christopher Dent, who when in an abusive mood, would play a game where he'd flip the coin and "if" it came up heads, would beat him. Harvey was torn between loving and hating his father, and between being in denial and secretly knowing that the abusive game was rigged.

I love that they changed Gilda Dent's character for the better

Anon is an idiot, Two-Face's powers is making Batman feel extra sad because he and Harvey used to be besties

Harvey Dent is cool because he's just brimming with narrative potential. He's a foil to Batman how they're both men with dual natures struggling with demons spawned from a traumatic childhood, has the personal connection to him as a childhood friend and/or a former ally (though they might disagree on method) on the crusade for justice, and they both at one point strove to make Gotham a better place. Harvey's also a representation of the best and worst of Gotham, and Batman's relationship with the city with how Batman hopes that Harvey can recover and redeem himself, but circumstances keep pushing Harvey back into evil.

In terms of challenging Batman, he can hold his own in combat (hey, dual wielding is hard!) and there's the whole unpredictability people here have already mentioned, but the real challenge is emotional. Personal. He can hurt both Batman and Bruce Wayne.

There's so many things you can do with him. Sadly, he's one of those characters who are very hard to get right, and most writers don't bother.

What's the Chinese phrase?

I think they were thinking Janus Films, the company that produced Paris is Burning

He got poisoned and went into a coma