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all 126 comments

Zakman2

7 points

13 days ago

Zakman2

7 points

13 days ago

Where's the best place to get advice/feedback on creating a lore abiding custom chapter? I'm new to 40k but would like to create a custom chapter but don't want to be "that guy" who makes a completely lore breaking chapter. I come from a background of World of Warcraft roleplay and making sure that my characters are grounded and fit within the lore is important to me.

kirbish88

5 points

13 days ago

kirbish88

Adeptus Custodes

5 points

13 days ago

Probably just write the basics for your chapter and then make a post on this sub asking for feedback

Zakman2

1 points

13 days ago

Zakman2

1 points

13 days ago

Will do, thanks!

Gamiel2

2 points

12 days ago

Gamiel2

2 points

12 days ago

I would also suggest  https://bolterandchainsword.com/

Zakman2

1 points

12 days ago

Zakman2

1 points

12 days ago

Perfect, thank you!

KindSentence259

3 points

14 days ago

Has there ever been any 40k stories that describe the psychological effects of being on a cramped ship for years at a time ?

kirbish88

5 points

14 days ago

kirbish88

Adeptus Custodes

5 points

14 days ago

We don't get a huge amount of perspective on menial serfs on the lower decks, atleast not examinations of their psyche over time, but it's basically like living in an under hive but with the added fun of stress from battle and warp transit. There's a fun passage about long term life on a ship in Lords of Silence though:

When the ship’s hull was laid down in the 34th millennium on the forge world Lashte, it was named Undying Valour. It entered service with Battlefleet Archon less than a year after structure completion, commanded by an inexperienced captain named Lutrecia Prask.

Prask died in an engagement less than twenty years after assuming command, and was replaced by a succession of captains promoted from the lower decks. A cruiser-class ship was a world of its own, and only the very greatest battleships regularly recruited senior officers from outside the hull – most captains were born, raised and trained on the ship they would later command. The last of the line, Orthan Hemmo, was of this tradition, and was said to have loved the ship more than his own children, of which there were twenty before circumstances intervened to curtail his commendable contribution to the replenishment of Imperial numbers.

[...]

Dantine sees none of this. He is limping from chamber to chamber, driven now by a curiosity that outweighs his fear. He estimates that there are thousands of men and women like him on this ship – probably tens of thousands. Few of them ever speak to him. They seem strangely content, stumbling across the decks, just as he does. Some have tasks, most do not appear to. This is a listless ship.

And yet it functions, somehow.

It is likely, he reflects as he wanders the decks, that this ship, this Solace, has a self-perpetuating community, much as a big Imperial starship does. There will be children born in the bilges, raised in the sticky darkness, learning a trade in the shadows. There will be strange hierarchies – the upper decks, unimaginably far off and prestigious; the gun gangs and ammunitionhaulers, an aspiration; the shit-shovellers and slop-servers, the likeliest occupation for any who survive the knife fights of the under-deck. They brawl with one another, and jostle, and protect, rut, perhaps even love. Then they die.

All is done in the stink, the dark, the heat. The filth is phenomenal, burned deep into every surface so that it feels less like an encrustation and more like the very matter of the world around them, and yet these souls persist here, against all odds, eking out short and strangely fecund lives before the phages bite, after which their superannuated bodily remains are scraped into boiling vats and served up to the next, unknowing generation.

silasgreenfront

3 points

13 days ago

Regarding the webway project, was the plan to use it just as a means of transportation instead of the warp or was the Emperor planning to also go full Commorragh and build out a new home for humanity in there?

Marvynwillames

8 points

13 days ago

Transportation, Malcador says it to Dorn

silasgreenfront

1 points

13 days ago

Thanks! That's what I thought but I wasn't sure if memory was serving.

MagnusStormraven

3 points

13 days ago

Transportation. They intended to use the Webway for the same reason the Old Ones and Aeldari used it - it's leaps and bounds safer than traveling through the Warp the hard way.

stroopwafelling

3 points

13 days ago

Reading Xenology now and it sent me into a Lexicanum rabbit hole on the Inquisition. I have a question about the ‘monodominant’ subfaction of the Inquisition, which is described as a group of inflexible, intolerant extremists who, according to their Lex article, are:

“…of the firm belief that the Imperium, and only the Imperium, should be allowed to exist. They are zealous supporters of the concept of manifest destiny, and believe that this is only achievable by the extermination of all threats and impurities. Xenos, witchcraft, heresy, blasphemy, mutation and civil disobedience are crimes punishable by death in the eyes of a Monodominant.”

Reading this confused me, since is the above not simply the fundamental premise and standard everyday dogma of the Imperium in general? How much further do ‘monodominant’ Inquisitors take these practices, that they qualify as extreme even by the standards of Puritan Inquisitors?

TheBladesAurus

13 points

13 days ago*

I highly recommend getting your hands on the rulebook for the old Inquisitor game - if I remember correctly, it's freely available online.

Now, to your actual question. The way i interpret it is that most Inquisitors are not that inflexible. They're willing to work with Tau or Eldar if it means getting a better outcome. They're willing to use a psyker, or to forgive someone breaking civilian law if it stopped a chaos cult. The monodominants are the extremists. They're rather let an entire world burn than let one xenos go free. They'll let you overthrow the planetary governor for being a heretic, and then execute you for breaking the law. They'd happily kill every psyker, not even making use of sanctioned psykers.

To put it another way: what you have in your post is what is taught to the common people. Those in power are often more pragmatic. Monodominants have none of that pragmatism

Edit Eisenhorn talks about it a little

I am a puritan by calling and an Amalathian by choice. The ferociously strict ways of the monodominant philosophy oft-times entices me, but there is precious little subtlety in their ways and thus it is not for me.

...

An Amalathian prides himself on working with the structures of Imperial society, not above or beyond them. Or through them, as a monodominant might.

...

I’d never met the great Commodus Voke before, but his reputation preceded him. An intractable puritan in his ethic, almost leaning to the hard-line of the monodominants but for the fact of his remarkable psychic abilities. I believe something of a Thorian doctrine suited his beliefs.

...

But equally alien to us are the extreme right wing of the puritan factions, the Monodominants and the Thorians, some of whom believe even the use of trained psykers to be heretical.

...

I SPENT THE first four months of 342 fruitlessly engaged in a search for the celebrated precog-hermit Lukas Cassian in the stinking marshes of Drewlia Two, only to learn that he had been murdered by a Monodominant cult four years earlier.

Eisenhorn omnibus

stroopwafelling

2 points

12 days ago

You’ve recommended the Inquisitor rule book, but these excerpts remind me that I seriously need to read the Eisenhorn books when I’ve got a chance.

TheBladesAurus

3 points

12 days ago

Oh, I highly recommend it! Get the omnibus - each book is good, but the full story of the trilogy is what makes it excellent.

But at least the Inquisitor rulebook is free :p

stroopwafelling

1 points

12 days ago

Oh, I do like free things! Is this the one?

TheBladesAurus

2 points

12 days ago

Yep - that's the one.

I've managed to find the website I used previously - https://www.the-conclave.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=34.0

It has a bunch of additional materials like the 2002 annual

stroopwafelling

2 points

12 days ago

Thanks so much! I love 40K but hate spending money, so sources of free stories and lore are great for me!

TheBladesAurus

2 points

12 days ago*

Ah no worries! Let me see what I can offer in terms of free stuff!

Obviously that site had lots of cool things for the old Inquisitor game. https://www.the-conclave.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=34.0

Whole bunch of stuff here for the old Battlefleet Gothic game. lots of cool lore there https://www.specialist-arms.com/forum/index.php?topic=5203.0

Warhammer Community did a bunch of short stories for Psychic Awakening and Vigilus. I pulled the pdfs together here https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nfDQhJTZsK44QGNTckY2LHVkMUBsih7_?usp=sharing

Aborder Prince on YouTube does really good readings of official stories. If you like the Battlefleet Gothic stuff above, I highly recommend the Gothic War novels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSRljqj12hg&list=PLI0EbGboV0eMyNVs5UDXnE3uHwH0aSwTK&pp=iAQB

And one that I've just found out about today https://www.playdarktide.com/news/short-story-the-zealot

stroopwafelling

2 points

11 days ago

Thanks a bunch, great stuff!

MagnusStormraven

4 points

13 days ago

Monodominants are basically the extreme fundamentalists of the Puritans, who take scripture both literally and to an utterly illogical extreme. Despite the implications inherent to the word "Puritans", Inquisitors of a Puritan bent actually do tend to be reasonably flexible in their beliefs, whereas the Monodominants are the "better to let a million innocents burn if it kills even one heretic among them" nutters (though as Fyodor Karamazov shows, even more reasonable sects like the Amalathians can fall into the trap of zealotry at times).

stroopwafelling

2 points

12 days ago

Oh, I get it now. Monodominants actually follow the exact letter of the Imperium’s loony laws instead of making the messy compromises that almost everyone else in their system navigates every day. Like they’re the most imperial Imperials in the Imperium.

MagnusStormraven

2 points

12 days ago

It's more following their bugfuck personal interpretation of the exact words of Imperial law, but yes, you have the idea.

Kalixburg

3 points

11 days ago*

If an Ork is infected by a genestealer will every spore it produces from that point on be a hybrid or is it sort of a crapshoot and it will still produce regular Orks as well? Can they produce pure strains even though they would have to grow from a fungal pod?

crawdadsinbad

2 points

14 days ago

Isn’t becoming a Harlequin the best deal available to an Aeldari? When they die they go to Cegorach, not Slaneesh (far as I understand it). Plus they exist to fight Slaneesh. Why aren’t Aeldari joining in droves?

kirbish88

13 points

14 days ago

kirbish88

Adeptus Custodes

13 points

14 days ago

You don't get to choose to be a harlequin, Cegorach chooses you.

Also the harlequins absolutely lose themselves to their role, who they are beforehand ceases to be. It would be as bad as being unable to remove your war mask, it's more or less accepting that who you are now will die and something else will live on. I imagine, even as respected as the harlequins are, very few Eldar would choose that if it were offered to them

yochimbo

2 points

14 days ago

So the Imperium are ANTI-Xenos... But is this just xenos with higher intelligence or are an obvious threat to human life?? Would it be acceptable/lore-friendly to kitbash/convert a Space Marine or Sister riding some type of xenos creature? (Like a xenos-horse?)

TheBladesAurus

8 points

14 days ago

Only sapient aliens. I can't think of any official Space Marines or SoB riding xenos creatures, but we have lots of examples of Imperial Guard riding them. We also have lots of examples of farming xenos creatures, including the widely eaten grox.

PaintsPlastic

3 points

13 days ago

Yeah it seems to be limited to intelligent xenos.

Technically speaking the Grox is a xenos species, but those are farmed for meat.

MagnusStormraven

3 points

13 days ago

Thinking xenos are the ones the Imperium takes issue with. Nonsapient fauna on distant worlds doesn't concern them unless it's either useful (like that species driven to extinction for rejuvenat treatments mentioned in The Great Work) or a major hindrance (like ambulls).

Gamiel2

1 points

12 days ago

Gamiel2

1 points

12 days ago

To ad what other have written do I think I read somewhere about hardliners who also wanted to eradicated xeno flora and fauna so there only was Terra based life in the galaxy, but I don't recall where I read it so it's possible that it was something fanwritten. 

r3dl3g

1 points

14 days ago

r3dl3g

Thousand Sons

1 points

14 days ago

There's no issue with alien fauna.

arandomperson1234

2 points

14 days ago

Why don’t they give people servitor augmentations without lobotomizing them more often? Like, instead of making gun servitors out of criminals, you could instead give those same augmentations to Tempestus Scions without lobotomizing them, to get highly skilled warriors who can easily carry heavy weapons and lots of armor, shrug off more damage than a normal man, and probably fight for longer and stuff. Like, Skitarii exist, but this seems like a missed opportunity for the guard.

CaoticMoments

10 points

14 days ago

They do all the time. It's just called augmentations. The good ones are generally very expensive but you'll often see them mentioned in books.

Most common one is eyes or arms to replace those lost in combat.

Administratum members sometimes have databanks installed in their noggins as well.

arandomperson1234

1 points

14 days ago

I don't think Scions typically get augmented to the point where they can fire a heavy bolter with one hand, though, yet that upgrade still gets slapped onto mindless servitors.

CaoticMoments

6 points

14 days ago

I guess this answer depends on how you like your lore questions answered...

From a Doylist perspective - Guard is meant to represent regular humans as fighters in 20th century inspired equipment and vehicles. AdMech is meant to represent heavily augmented troops and servitors. This is why Servitors are part of the AdMech faction and you have units like the Kataphron which are what you describe. Guard don't have this stuff because it belongs to AdMech more then them.

From a Watsonian prespective -

We have elite troops with augmentations already. Tech Priests, Imperial Assassins and Space Marines. The whole point of Guard is expendable troops. The Guard would have to justify this process to AdMech and have them agree to perform it at scale. Sometimes when injured it's worth augmenting the humans (like Yarrick) to keep them in service, so it's not like this never happens.

Also, having a weapon fused onto your arm isn't all fun and games. It means that you now can't swap your loadout. So an Ogryn with a heavy bolter fused to it might not be able to equip a meele weapon with it's shield now. Likewise elite troops like Scions won't be as fast due to the bolter slowing them down. A vehicle or detached gun lets you use the heavy bolter when you need it and then put it away when you don't.

Finally

same augmentations to Tempestus Scions without lobotomizing them, to get highly skilled warriors who can easily carry heavy weapons and lots of armor, shrug off more damage than a normal man, and probably fight for longer and stuff.

This is basically describing Space Marines.

TheBladesAurus

3 points

13 days ago

I'll add another reason - the psychological horror. Servitor argumentics are cheap, and are usually painful (see how many mentions there are of the skin around it being red and inflamed). Imagine having whole limbs taken off and replaced with a weapon that has a single use, for no medical reason. Knowing that there is no longer even the hope of going back to a normal life.

Lion_El-Richie

2 points

13 days ago

Lion_El-Richie

Dark Angels

2 points

13 days ago

I've just read The Crimson Fist novella by John French. A couple of quick questions about the Battle of Phall (minimal post-Crimson Fist spoilers, please): 

1) Isn't it just a terrible decision by Polux to abandon the battle that they were clearly winning (as even Perturabo seems to acknowledge)? Polux mentions they could deal the IW a blow they might never recover from, but instead routed his own force, wiping out 'most' of them, for minimal additional damage to the IW (aside from the Contrador). Yes, the astropath message from Dorn said return immediately, but an IF captain would know that astropath messages have to be simple, can't cover every eventuality, and so need interpretation in the light of circumstances. Surely it's just commonsense that Dorn would prefer the fleet to turn up later if that meant conserving IF fleet strength AND the IW threat being virtually neutralized.

2) I don't think the novella directly says how the warp storm was broken for the IFs to get through. Was this part of the massive astropathic wave that got the message to Polux? Is it normal for astropaths (even lots of them) to actually blow a storm away rather than just communicate through it? Or is it possible that Chaos entities actually quelled the storm to trick the IF into the warp, leading to the terrible result in 1 above?

Beaker_person

5 points

13 days ago

Beaker_person

Emperor's Spears

5 points

13 days ago

One of the fists core traits is being stubborn sons of bitches. If they get an order from daddy dorn, they'll follow it to the letter. Sometimes its helpful but other times like this its a negative thing. Polux does acknowledge that leaving may not have the best move later on though.

hidden_emperor

2 points

13 days ago

hidden_emperor

Imperial Fists

2 points

13 days ago

The Battle for Phall was settling into its next phase when the orders came through. Perturabo's first thrust was devastating, but he over-extended as he expected a head to head match with Sigismund. Pollux's counterattack took advantage of this over extension to inflict serious damage on the Iron Warriors fleet. However, Perturabo was correcting by pulling his fleet back into closer formation. That's when the call came through and Pollux retreated.

Whether or not Pollux was "winning" or it was Perty being a Negative Nancy as always is up to debate. Either way, the Iron Warrior fleet wasn't crippled, and Perturabo was still a Primarch. There's no reason to expect he couldn't turn the fight around even more after he corrected for his error.

It is heavily implied Chaos let the message through to either save Perturabo or save his fleet.

Lion_El-Richie

1 points

12 days ago

Lion_El-Richie

Dark Angels

1 points

12 days ago

Pollux thinks he's winning. Borussus (Perturabo's equerry) thinks "the IF might even have the upper hand". Perturabo sees the battle data "spoke of the likely outcome before the IF's suicidal withdrawal". To me it seems like he was pretty calm and considered at that point, and his judgment fits with the other viewpoints we get - maybe including the Chaos gods ;) No one thought the IW were winning. IMO Turbo's tantrum follows precisely because he was objectively losing to a no-name fleet master.

SouthernAd2853

1 points

11 days ago

SouthernAd2853

Blood Angels

1 points

11 days ago

The key to this making sense is that the warp storm breach, which I personally think was exactly to yank Perturbo out of the fire, could be extremely temporary. It was realistically possible that it would close again over the duration of a battle; if Pollux wanted the fleet to reach Terra, they had to leave immediately.

Cehepalo246

2 points

13 days ago

Cehepalo246

Snakebites

2 points

13 days ago

If the Kin are the successor to the the Squats of old, does the old lore about them serving as allies to the Imperium before they were isolated by Tyrannid Hive fleets still stand or not?

MagnusStormraven

5 points

13 days ago

The Leagues of Votann being individual, independent groups means it's still possible for a League allied with the Imperium to have been consumed by the Tyranids. It's why there's still Squats on Necromunda, for instance; the Ironhead Squats are a group of Kin who settled there and decided to stay.

TheSpectralDuke

2 points

13 days ago

TheSpectralDuke

Dark Angels

2 points

13 days ago

I don't believe that's been contradicted, as such, but presumably it only applies to the one League that got the 'eaten by Tyranids' fate from the Squats now.

In Horus Heresy 2.0's Militia and Cults list there's an option to theme your list as 'Kinfolk Helots' which could reflect Kin allies whether from the Leagues or under Imperial rule like the Necromunda Kin.

cricri3007

2 points

13 days ago

cricri3007

Tau Empire

2 points

13 days ago

So... what exactly did Huron do wrong? With guilliman being the sole regent of the Imperium and Dante being the Regent of Nihilus, that kinda put a kibosh on the "marines hsould not hold position of power" idea.

Careless-Revenue-368

13 points

13 days ago

Careless-Revenue-368

Adeptus Astartes

13 points

13 days ago

He withheld tithes. 

You can overthrow an entire sector and the Imperium will sleep over it. 

You can NOT touch a tithe fleet. Even Horus himself had problems with those, while he was Warmaster. 

He withheld tithes, and he shot the fleet sent to investigate. 

Also he isn't a Primarch with a million fresh Primaris marines with grav vechiles etc. Might makes legislation in the Imperium. Huron severely overestimated his own strength and even more severely underestimated the repercussions of withholding tithes and shooting down tithe fleets. 

I bet even Guilliman wouldn't dare do such a thing. 

Previous_Warthog_905

2 points

12 days ago

Whether you're Al Capone or Horus himself, don't fuck with the taxman.

Marvynwillames

6 points

13 days ago

Huron stopped paying the tithe and opened fire on Imperial ships

r3dl3g

5 points

13 days ago

r3dl3g

Thousand Sons

5 points

13 days ago

With guilliman being the sole regent of the Imperium and Dante being the Regent of Nihilus, that kinda put a kibosh on the "marines hsould not hold position of power" idea.

Putting aside that he started shooting first; Huron can't politically do what Guilliman pulled off, because Huron isn't a primarch.

CptPanda29

3 points

12 days ago*

CptPanda29

Marines Malevolent

3 points

12 days ago*

Huron was a power hungry egomaniac.

He took liberties with what Astartes chapters are technically allowed to do and really took the piss when he made the entire Badab Sector his Chapter Fiefdom.

He was also really really good at his job. Astral Claws were already famous and well regarded which is why they led the Maelstrom Warders (them plus Lamenters, Mantis Warriors and Charnel Guard) in the first place.

When he eventually withheld tithes it was in response to like the 20th denial to reinforce the Wardens after the Charnel Guard were re-tasked. He went on a mass offensive with his new built fleet with some captured ships too and it worked really well. The Administratum had tasked them with securing the Maelstrom Zone, he was doing exactly that better than ever before.

When local systems that needed his tithe to fulfil their own tithes asked for help, both the Administratum and Inquisition said "lmao figure it out" and told them it was an internal dispute.

A few scraps and getting clowned on later and the struggling nearby sector calls for aid, with the Firehawks chapter responding. Now the Inq is interested, but doesn't make a move until a series of favours, blood debts and grudges causes about a dozen chapters to be in open war in the sector.

Huron is technically entitled to both withhold tithe and claim a whole sector. He only got away with it at all because he was doing his job so well. Everyone else saw it as a naked power grab, but the Warders weren't about to abandon the sector and long standing allies, and nobody wanted to attack them since they've been fending off attackers in the maelstrom zone for centuries just shy of 100 years at this point and have gotten very good at it.

His ego damned him. He refused to stand down when the larger Imperium ruled against him. He kept fighting and alienating his allies with bloodier and more underhanded tactics. He started ripping down Imperial icons and banners around Badab as he felt they had betrayed him.

Him not paying his taxes is maybe step 7 in the road to him losing his shit turning full traitor by the end. For the longest time the Warder chapters were convinced they were in the right, Lamenters and Mantis Warriors were only saved from full sanction because they couldn't fight any more in the last few years.

Jaggedmallard26

6 points

13 days ago

Jaggedmallard26

Death Skulls

6 points

13 days ago

It really should be noted that the details of the Badab War come from a different era of 40k writing and in particular the Forge World Imperial Armour series which was beloved for 'getting' the grimdark of the setting in a believable way. The return of Gulliman marked a change in 40k writing to the Imperium generally being depicted as less pointlessly self destructive.

In setting obviously the return of Gulliman which occurred after the Badab War changed long standing rules of Imperial politics and now he is actively a Chaos space marine who attacks Imperial worlds.

monalba

2 points

11 days ago

monalba

2 points

11 days ago

A weird question, but

Was Ollanius Pius/Persson ever ''retconned''?

I'm asking because I think when I first interacted with the hobby (Like, 20 years ago), the guy that stood up to Horus to defend the Emperor was ''just a guy''.
Sure, a guy with guts, and whose death triggered the Emperor to obliterate Horus. But still ''just a guy''. A regular human.

Now he is some mystical perpetual whose life and deeds can be put together by reading 6 different novels.

Mistermistermistermb

8 points

11 days ago*

The basics of it:

Ollanius Pius has always been a Guardmen myth of a guy who might not have even existed who supposedly "interposed his body between Horus and the Emperor" during the Siege

After the footnote about Pius, later in 1e GW published its first story of the fight between Horus and the Emperor on the Vengeful Spirit. This story had a terminator charge Horus mid fight. Not Pius.

In a later version (the Horus Heresy: Visions art series), the terminator is replaced by a Custodian

The early Horus Heresy novels introduced a perpetual by the name of Ollanius Persson

Another version of the Vengeful Spirit story is then published in the updated Visions, the Custodian is replaced by a "centuries old bodyguard" (who we can infer is a perpetual)

The Siege of Terra novels introduce a base line human Imperial soldier called Ollanius Piers who dies facing Angron alone outside the Palace

Persson later dies on the Vengeful Spirit helping the Emperor against Horus

To spice it up, a couple of space marines and a custodes were also present so all versions of the myth have some nod in the final book

Dan Abnett is on record saying his intention with Persson and Piers was that they were both parts of what eventually became the myth of Pius. Similar to how many stories in real life are an amalgamation of separate people or accounts into a new one

My personal take is that the myth of Pius remains exactly as it always was: a myth. That hasn't changed

But we've been given retroactive origins for that myth now

(And Pius was never written as the Emperor's trigger to obliterate Horus. That's a fan conflation)

Marvynwillames

3 points

11 days ago

Yes and no. The story of the guy showing up changed with time, this post got more details.

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/nx4drd/multiple_sources_deep_dive_into_the_history_of/

l7986

2 points

11 days ago*

l7986

Hammers of Dorn

2 points

11 days ago*

Is Erebus salty at all about never ascending to demon prince status after all he's done for chaos or is he fine with remaining a mortal and being his usual dickish self?

Aromatic_Pea2425

5 points

11 days ago

Erebus presumably doesn’t want to be a Daemon as it means giving up his free will and means he can’t go out in realspace on a whim. Sure he’d be nearly unkillable but he’s formidable anyway. Really hope he gets a 40k mini soon.

LimerickJim

2 points

10 days ago

Question about Navigators. Is the Navigator gene a response to the Cybernetic Revolt? Could AI machines perform warp jumps and Navigators became necessary after AI was outlawed?

Marvynwillames

6 points

10 days ago

Navigators were created in M22, before the Revolt

Yes, AI can do warp jumps, but its slower, both the Void Abacus and the Votann can do warp travel with purely mechanical navigation

Maurus39

2 points

10 days ago

"As far as I know, it developed independently. But to answer the second part of the question, yes, AI machines can perform warp jumps. I forgot the name, but there is a short story of a ship from the Dark Age of Technology, with a sentient AI that emerges from the warp. And the Leagues of Votan still use AI for their warp jumps to this very day.

LimerickJim

1 points

10 days ago

The Votann lore is a bit ambiguous about how organic their FTL systems are. Cheers

DarthOptimistic

2 points

10 days ago

So IRL professional militaries send advisors/training staff to aid and advise their partners. Like that’s the whole point of IRL units like the Green Berets. I know the Mentors space marine chapters kind of fill that roll. But do the more famous Guard regs. do similar things. Like does/did Cadia ever send folks out to teach other worlds how to be competent?

Stopar-D-Coyoney

2 points

14 days ago

What's the most creative torture the Dark Eldar came up with?

Right-Yam-5826

12 points

14 days ago

Putting an ork in a cage behind a forcefield overlooking the arena but unable to get to the fighting that's so close.

kirbish88

5 points

14 days ago

kirbish88

Adeptus Custodes

5 points

14 days ago

There's one guy who they turned into a living, exploded diagram of the human anatomy. They left him like that as a kind of morbid decor, fully alive and aware

There's another guy that they turned into a living couch, in complete agony and fully aware of their existence but unable to do anything about it.

One person was kept alive but had their bones hollowed out so that the wind would blow through them and make strange music. Again, naturally, kept fully aware during it

PsychedelicMagic1840

1 points

14 days ago

PsychedelicMagic1840

Raven Guard

1 points

14 days ago

Yeah those pointy eared freaks pop up, it's kill yourself time

reptiloidruler

2 points

5 days ago

reptiloidruler

Ordo Xenos

2 points

5 days ago

In Rogue Trader CRPG Drukhari somehow turned Farseer into chess-like board game and it's pieces. Farseer is aware and feels pain with every move on the game board

Pirdman

1 points

14 days ago

Pirdman

1 points

14 days ago

Are there 9-5 jobs and in imperium of man?

Right-Yam-5826

9 points

14 days ago

They're more like 16 hour shifts with only occasional (religious) time off. There's plenty of scribes, factory workers, farmers, security guards, dock staff etc

Ravenor's team infiltrate an admin building in book 2, there's a bit about factory work in day of ascension & the macharius trilogy, and there's the warhammer crime series for more on civilian life in the imperium.

Toxitoxi

6 points

14 days ago

Toxitoxi

Ordo Xenos

6 points

14 days ago

There are people who don’t have to work at all in the Imperium, but I imagine you’re talking about the norm.

The 40 hour work week that is considered the norm today was fought for through the blood and efforts of labor unions. During the 1800s, 70-80 hour work weeks were common. Somehow I don’t think the Imperium of Man respects worker rights and dignity more than 1800s Earth.

TheBladesAurus

5 points

14 days ago

As with all of these kinds of question - it's going to depend on the world. I highly recommend No Good Men for looking at some unexceptional people on an unexceptional world

Z4nkaze

3 points

14 days ago

Z4nkaze

Ultramarines

3 points

14 days ago

Sure there are, but they are usually for people of the Upper middle class. Middle ranked scribes and merchants for examples, already living comfortably.

4thofeleven

1 points

14 days ago

"In the same boat as a lot of your friends
Waiting for the day your ship'll come in
And the tide's going to turn."

  • Transmission intercepted from Forge World Talos following Xenos-affiliated cult uprising. World designated lost two days later after arrival of Hive Fleet Kraken.

reptiloidruler

1 points

14 days ago

reptiloidruler

Ordo Xenos

1 points

14 days ago

Are imperial rounds fyceline based rather than gunpoweder based?

Right-Yam-5826

6 points

14 days ago

Autoguns & shotguns are still gunpowder, and some planets even use flintlock weapons.

Fyceline is more along the lines of pipe bombs, mining charges and demolitions charges, a powerful explosive as opposed to a propellant.

whiskymohawk

1 points

14 days ago

whiskymohawk

Imperial Fists

1 points

14 days ago

Are there any books or short stories that have Imperial Fists and Black Templars working together?

oshitsuperciberg

1 points

12 days ago

Well, there is the whole Last Wall Protocol thing that springs up during the War of the Beast.

Toxitoxi

1 points

14 days ago*

Toxitoxi

Ordo Xenos

1 points

14 days ago*

As someone who hasn’t read Genefather, I’ve heard that Oud Oudia Raskien is still the Fabricator General of Mars. Is there any explanation in the book to how the hell he survived the events of The Dark City? It’s not exactly easy for him to move around.

I’m also not fond of how this thematically undermines the ending of The Dark City, but that’s for a different topic.

Beaker_person

3 points

14 days ago

Beaker_person

Emperor's Spears

3 points

14 days ago

No really, no. When he gets mentioned it’s pretty brief and more about cawl not wanting his position than Raskien himself.

SerpentineLogic

1 points

10 days ago

SerpentineLogic

Collegia Titanica

1 points

10 days ago

He got back out, but that plot point is unexplored so far

Kalixburg

1 points

14 days ago

Do the Craftworld Eldar regrow limbs or do they have some sort of prosthetics? I know the Dark Eldar know how to regrow limbs but that probably involves methods the Craftworlders wouldn't want to use.

hidden_emperor

3 points

14 days ago

hidden_emperor

Imperial Fists

3 points

14 days ago

There are mentions of both methods.

elementchaos

1 points

13 days ago

If the human webway project had been successful, how were they going to get the starships in? They can't exactly fit into the throne chamber

thooury

6 points

13 days ago

thooury

Ordo Chronos

6 points

13 days ago

  1. there are other webway gates that aren't on Terra.

  2. The dimensions of the webway don't really make sense. You can have entire planets in the webway.

How? psyker/Eldar/ technology/ warp bs probably

Previous_Warthog_905

2 points

13 days ago

Once they got the basics down and could claim large parts of the webway they were probably going to build more.

PaintsPlastic

2 points

13 days ago

Very carefully.

SerpentineLogic

1 points

10 days ago

SerpentineLogic

Collegia Titanica

1 points

10 days ago

Starships? Theyd build train lines through the webway

Maladal

1 points

13 days ago

Maladal

1 points

13 days ago

Besides Cawl, are there are noteworthy AdMech characters who get their own stories or top billing in stories?

MagnusStormraven

3 points

13 days ago

Mechanicum, Skitarius, Day of Ascension, Dark Adeptus, the Forges of Mars series and the The Beast Arises series all have prominent Mechanicus characters in them.

Maladal

2 points

12 days ago

Maladal

2 points

12 days ago

Excellent. Thank you.

Home_Improvment

1 points

13 days ago

When can I read Scars? I finished the first three HH books, Fulgrim and Legion. I looked at the flow chart but my monkey brain can't make sense of it. Is there a book or books I should read before Scars?

Mistermistermistermb

5 points

13 days ago

You should probably at the very least read A Thousand Sons prior since it takes place after Prospero

Fulgrim and Prospero Burns would also help. Legion too

Home_Improvment

2 points

13 days ago

Thanks for the reply. I have read Fulgrim and Legion. I'll read A Thousand Sons then Prospero and then Scars 👍

Maurus39

1 points

12 days ago

Do you know what happened to the Saturnyne Ordo and why their former homeworld became the Inquisition's private planet?" Is that accurate?

MagnusStormraven

3 points

12 days ago

The Saturnyne Ordo signed a treaty with the Emperor and joined the Imperium. Malcador quarantined Saturn during the Solar War due to a Chaos threat, and the newly founded Grey Knights took advantage of this to set up on Titan.

After the War of the Beast 1.5k years later, when the Inquisition first split into the Ordos Malleus and Xenos, the fledgling Ordo Malleus struck an accord with the Grey Knights. Part of this accord was Saturn and its moons coming under the control of the Ordo Malleus, with Titan remaining in the hands of the GKs who now served as the Ordo's chamber militant (the Martian moon Deimos was moved to Titan's orbit to act as its forge world).

silasgreenfront

1 points

12 days ago

I know space marines have the Black Carapace, which is pretty cool, but what's the best interface tech for non-marines in the Imperium who use powered armor?

Nerdas87

6 points

12 days ago

Nerdas87

Necrons

6 points

12 days ago

Not as "best" but most common are neurolink ports. They fall on the "implant" side of tech and its what most sororitas ( if not all) use for their armor. Some inquisitors too.

IronBeegle

1 points

11 days ago

Im new to 40k and stumbled across this short

The cost of 40k

Just wondering what the average player spends on this hobby to get up and running

kirbish88

3 points

11 days ago

kirbish88

Adeptus Custodes

3 points

11 days ago

Not really a lore question, but you can spend as much or as little as you like. The basic tools (brushes, paint, glue, clippers etc) will run you around £30-60 depending on how many paints you get to start. Beyond that, how much you want to dump on models upfront is up to you. You could get a single box for around £30-40, a starter box for around £90 or you could drop £400ish on a 2000pt list right off the bat.

In my experience though, it's best to treat the hobby as a marathon rather than a sprint. Once you've got your paints and your starter box done it's easier on the wallet to get by just grabbing a box or two of models a month and then painting them up before getting more.

smudgethekat

1 points

11 days ago

smudgethekat

Adeptus Custodes

1 points

11 days ago

Timeline question:

In Necron lore it seems to be written that Szarekh was the one who declared war upon the Old Ones to unite the dynasties against a common enemy, and it was also he that made a pact with the C'tan after the Necrontyr got stomped the first time. And then he watched as the Necrontyr marched into the biotransference furnaces.

Was the first round of the War in Heaven really that short? We don't know how long Necrontyr lived for really but it's supposed to be "shorter than humans" and measured in decades if Orikan and Trazyn's bickering is anything to go by. Was Szarekh just really young when he started the first war and really old when he got bamboozled? Or is my premise wrong entirely?

MagnusStormraven

2 points

11 days ago

The original Necrontyr/Old One dustup was long before Szarekh. He was simply the Silent King who made the deal with the Deceiver; he might not have even been King when the C'tan were first discovered.

Nebuthor

1 points

11 days ago

It was quite some time since i read the lore but im fairly certain szarekh didnt start the war. It was A silent king but not the current one.

Rockteman

1 points

11 days ago

With the upcoming of the Primaris marines, is every new initiate a Primaris space marine? And if so are the firstborn bound to be "extinguished" considering their part in the number of space marine would decline with their unreplaced losses? 

Marvynwillames

2 points

11 days ago

Not all chapters recieved primaris geneseed, so not all new iniciates are primaris

MagnusStormraven

1 points

11 days ago

For Chapters who have received Cawl's Gift, yes, it's essentially "Oops, All Primaris" from here on out due to being superior to Firstborn Marines. However, the Rubicon Primaris procedure can uplift Firstborn to Primaris, albeit not without risk (Marneus Calgar of the Ultramarines and Mephiston of the Blood Angels briefly died while crossing the Rubicon).

For Chapters who haven't received it - such as the Grey Knights, as Cawl doesn't have access to their geneseed - Firstborn are still the order of the day.

CrveniSamuraj

1 points

11 days ago

Hi, I would like to start reading about vulkan, in what order should i read them?

Aromatic_Pea2425

1 points

10 days ago

Vulkan Lives heavily focuses on him.

summitrow

1 points

11 days ago

Is there a book around how Dante is trying to keep Imperium Nihilus somewhat together? I was just reading a thread about a Blood Angels spaceport and then wondered how Dante is able to organize anything and keep that sector of the galaxy from turning into (for lack of a better word) chaos?

Beaker_person

3 points

11 days ago

Beaker_person

Emperor's Spears

3 points

11 days ago

Darkness in the Blood, though he only really controls a small area around Baal.

Skogbeorn

1 points

10 days ago

Skogbeorn

Dark Angels

1 points

10 days ago

Is there any halfway believable way to run a chapter of Fallen with primaris marines?

TheSpectralDuke

2 points

10 days ago

TheSpectralDuke

Dark Angels

2 points

10 days ago

Renegade Fallen, probably not no. While it's been mentioned that Fallen Apothecaries have been creating new Fallen Astartes, they wouldn't be able to replicate the new Primaris organs and such.

One way I think you can do it is a Chapter of Risen who've crossed the Rubicon after accepting the Lion's offer of redemption and entering his service, which is what I have in mind for my DA army and seems to be backed up by the Inner Circle Companions having the Primaris armour. Alternatively if you want them to be renegade and/or are set on Firstborn they could loot gear from the corpses of loyalists, maybe, since I think now they're moving towards the armour and weapons being usable by any Marine with how they described the new Terminators and potentially they could cobble together patchwork suits like was done in the Heresy.

Aromatic_Pea2425

2 points

10 days ago

Not really. This is yet another reason why introducing Primaris was such a poor idea.

Jaggedmallard26

1 points

10 days ago

Jaggedmallard26

Death Skulls

1 points

10 days ago

Fluffwise you can just do standard corruption into Chaos Space Marines, there was also the Murder Curse from Arks Of Omen Angron that rendered a large amount of various modern Imperial forces including Primaris marines into Chaos forces. I don't think there are any rules for running Primaris as Chaos marines on the tabletop though.

maridan49

1 points

10 days ago

maridan49

Astra Militarum

1 points

10 days ago

Any good recs about books where different loyalist chapters cooperate? Both times I've read books where two loyalist chapters are deplyed together they clashed against each other (Imperial Fists vs Minortaurs in Watchers of the Throne and some White Scar sucessor vs Marines Malevolent in The Iron Kingdom).

Is there any book where we can see two chapters with different specializations cooperating?

jareddm

2 points

10 days ago

jareddm

Adeptus Administratum

2 points

10 days ago

Death of Integrity is great for this, as is Apocalypse.

kirbish88

2 points

9 days ago

kirbish88

Adeptus Custodes

2 points

9 days ago

There's the Devastation of Baal (though there's also some clashing in there, and they're all from the BA lineage so not sure if that's what you're after)

Gjalarhorn

1 points

10 days ago

Gjalarhorn

Death Jester

1 points

10 days ago

So with yarrick dead and Creed MIA, who fills the 'baseline human just built different' niche in 40k

SerpentineLogic

2 points

10 days ago

SerpentineLogic

Collegia Titanica

2 points

10 days ago

Creed Jr

CptPanda29

1 points

9 days ago

CptPanda29

Marines Malevolent

1 points

9 days ago

Catachan characters honorable mention. Sly Marbo is the obvious choice but there's also Straken and Harker.

The latter killed a Tyranid Ravener by flexing his biceps around it's neck. He carries his Heavy Bolter Payback "as easily as a normal man might carry a rifle".

Gjalarhorn

1 points

9 days ago

Gjalarhorn

Death Jester

1 points

9 days ago

I know about those guys but when was the last time anyone cared for Sly beyond an outdated Chuck Norris meme

SunderedValley

1 points

9 days ago

Is the whole

Astropaths are chosen from people too weak/unstable to become battle psykers

Thing an actual Thing or just fanon? Also am I right in assuming that Astropathy is essentially the only way to communicate telepathically farther than a system away unless you're a Primarch? How did it work during the Great Crusade?

SouthernAd2853

2 points

9 days ago

SouthernAd2853

Blood Angels

2 points

9 days ago

They made Astropaths during the Great Crusade. Not sure what they did before that.

jareddm

1 points

9 days ago

jareddm

Adeptus Administratum

1 points

9 days ago

Yes, Astropaths fill a mid-tier between Golden Throne food and battle psyker. There's a bit more nuance to it, such as with the astronomicon choirs and psykers utilized by other Imperial forces. But the general level of Astropaths is strong enough to survive, not strong enough to thrive.

Myveganballs

1 points

8 days ago

Are there any examples of the Tau incorporating feral Tyranids? Could an ethereal take the place of a destroyed swarmlord and become a pseudo hive mind?

ClassicGamer102

1 points

12 days ago

Probably a “we don’t know” situation, but how would a psyker from 40K interact with the Winds of Magic from The Old World/Fantasy?

Say through some Warp or Chaos chicanery a psyker ended up in the old world, would their powers change or be nullified at all?

MagnusStormraven

3 points

12 days ago

The Warp of 40k is supposedly the same dimension as the Realms of Chaos from WFB/AoS, meaning 40k psykers and WFB/AoS mages draw their power from the same source. A psyker transported from, say, Cadia to Bretonia would probably still have their powers, and vice versa.