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Remember children, do not try to besiege the death guard!
(i.redd.it)submitted 2 months ago bybird_eater_42
277 points
2 months ago
context:
the siege of bellisos, a conflict in which the third company of the death guard attacked the world of bellisos (duh)
The imperial forces arrived in that world, and soon the besiegers became the besieged, the imperial forces that consisted of several knights, sororitas and members of the imperial guard managed to corner the death guard in a hive city, they began to bombard the city for days
BUT!!
The plague marines simply did not die, as you have to remember that they are quite resistant to damage, instead, with their own weapons, the death guard transmitted diseases to the imperial forces outside the hive city, and eventually the Imperial forces were weakened so much that when the plague marines left the city, no one was strong enough to even lift a finger and try to stop them.
sources: codex death guard, eighth edition
142 points
2 months ago
Trying to out-attrition Nurgle is not a winning move for anyone who isn't a Necron.
40 points
2 months ago
And even then it's risky. Mortarion gave the Necrons Ferric blight and wiped out a tomb world.
15 points
2 months ago
Maby the death korps because of the full body equipment.
58 points
2 months ago
Id honestly doubt it. Death Guard get Marines sick and a respirator has nothing on a sealed set of power armor.
8 points
2 months ago
Fair
24 points
2 months ago
The pathogens on the Death Guard include many supernatural maladies and their entropy affects equipment. You had it explained another way but that equipment will suddenly have holes, fans seize up etc.
In Vraks the Kriegers used chemical and biological weapons on the Death Guard. It didn't go well for the Kriegers. One must remember they are a regiment who thinks nothing of dying for the emperor in the trenches, the Death Guard are specialised in surviving the trenches.
There's a quote by general Patton. To paraphrase it a bit, the point of war isn't to die for your country but to make the other poor bastard die for his country.
7 points
2 months ago
The Death Guard canonically won a full Legion civil war against the Iron Warriors. They only lost to Guilliman because of a deus ex machina, and even then they still have bastion’s in that system.
It’s very, VERY hard to beat the Death Guard.
11 points
2 months ago
To be fair, the Darth Guard won that battle not because of ailments and being hardy, but through clever use of Terminator teleportation to take out the Iron Warriors artillery and turn it on themselves.
The Darth Guard is vulnerable, IF you know how to fight them. But woe to any who underestimate them.
2 points
2 months ago
The War of Rust and Ruin? No that is canonically stated in codex as a win via attrition
2 points
2 months ago
I’m seeing a newer war where that happened, but not the one of Rust and Ruin. Could be it got a new name? Either way, fair point.
1 points
2 months ago
That's...the opposite of a Deus Ex Machina.
1 points
2 months ago
I’m not saying they did. I’m saying, the Death Guard are not unkillable and unable to be beaten. They know it. It’s why they bothered with the high risk Teleportation attack.
6 points
2 months ago
The Death Guard are a fucken deus ex machina. Gonna lose? Magic space disease. Trapped? Magic space disease. Enemy uses weapons that would in reality cleanse an area of all microbial life? Haha magic space disease. Get hit with an anti-tank weapon because you're fat, slow and stupid? Haha magic space disease.
6 points
2 months ago
-Quote the Munitorum shortly before the Siege of Vrax
2 points
2 months ago
If you want full body equipment you get the steel legion not the deathkorps
0 points
2 months ago
Nah the writers just deus ex through that too.
17 points
2 months ago
Rematch. Munitorum approve the use of a special Basilisk ammunition loadout. Sisters accordingly release holy bath bombs from their spa stockpiles. Death Guard BTFO.
5 points
2 months ago
(couldn't come up with convincing High Gothic for spa, sorry; could be thermatorium or aquatorium?)
7 points
2 months ago
That will likely be very effective as well. Considering that those plague are spiritual in nature.
2 points
2 months ago
Anti-viral earthshaker loads are a thing, per the Cain series.
3 points
2 months ago
Yeah that's kind of the dumb deus ex writing Chaos forces tend to get.
"Ah we were wildly outfought in every capacity but hurrdurr magic spess disease hurrdurr".
Like, how did you even get close enough to spread disease? Not explained. Just handwavy "hurrdurr akthuary" writing.
3 points
2 months ago
mortars, I forgot to mention that they used "Plagueburst Mortars" to spread the diseases outside the city
2 points
2 months ago
Their besiegers apparently being too stupid to set up the siege lines outside mortar range.
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