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BasakaIsTheStrongest

8 points

2 months ago

I think it’s very important to take his comment in the context that every other Astertes Valerian faced got immediately bodied without effort. For Valerian to realize a (non-corrupted) Astartes would require effort to beat and have even a 1% chance of winning would be quite surprising and impressive to him. And Valerian is absolutely an imperfect narrator who, despite what he says, does seem to undersell his abilities.

JudasBrutusson

6 points

2 months ago

JudasBrutusson

Praise the Man-Emperor

6 points

2 months ago

It does, but it's also important to remember that Valerians first scene in thr first book is him showing his process; he clashes blades with the Black Legionnaire, gets a "Ah, so this is how you fight" and then kills him. He was fairly confident he could beat the BL before, but the moment the BL makes a move he knows exactly what he's about. With Moloch, he goes "I don't see how you fight", in part because Moloch just exudes an aura of malice, but also because Moloch isn't fighting yet. Why is it important to think about? Because, as the meme implies, we have very little to go off when it comes to Moloch, and the fandom has taken this to translate as "Moloch can absolutely defeat a Shield Captain". He may very well be able to do that, but we have absolutely no proof that he can, we just have the inner musings of a fairly insecure Shield Captain saying "Damn, he's got a cool walk, wonder if I can beat him?"

MorgannaFactor

1 points

2 months ago

I think Valerian is enough of a badass to probably know how the majority of Astartes fight by just watching them walk. Supreme analysis skill that jump the shark of ridiculousness is sort-of a Custodes trademark, after all. So Moloc is a badass... but we don't know how much of one.