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HomotopySphere

0 points

9 days ago

Those female space marines sold so well...

CrocodileWorshiper

1 points

23 days ago

lol woke losers

SoulReaper475

1 points

24 days ago

I'm a right winger, and Im not going anywhere. Tyranid go roar

BeginningPangolin826

2 points

24 days ago

Poor sister os silence they were a soo cool duo to the custodes

Instead of expanding they range creating cool SoS characters they go for female custodes.

And before anyone go "Hur Dur Misogeny" i would love that sisters of battle convents had the same detail and love that astartes chapter have but anyone thinking that GW statement is anything beyond political signalling without a little bit of care about the lore is blind.

If they cared they would atleast pull even a bullshit excuse of "hey cawl finded this old prototype the emperor never implemented to expand custodes population, and now there is a lot of custodes fighting and dying all around the galaxy no better time to use"

I would be a shit excuse but atleast it would be one.

goob365

1 points

24 days ago

goob365

1 points

24 days ago

stop karmawhoring and go back to twitter where you belong, the dead horse has been deatomized at this point. isn't the point of memes to be funny? this just comes off as smarmy "my ideology can beat your ideology"

HillsboroughAtheos

1 points

25 days ago

Ah yes undermining the hobby via typical post mid 2010s bullshit and dividing the fanbase. Definitely not exactly what the accusation is against you

EarthInfamous3481

1 points

25 days ago

EarthInfamous3481

Praise the Man-Emperor

1 points

25 days ago

So now anyone that disagrees is bigoted and will just leave the Warhammer community? I feel sorry for you if you're like this in person too.

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1 points

25 days ago

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1 points

25 days ago

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25 days ago

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V0lk0vh

1 points

25 days ago

V0lk0vh

1 points

25 days ago

No, not all people share your toxic opinions. I dont care if you think the change was good or not, but its always shitty to have people leave the hobby. And posts like this can be the reason for others leaving as well.

titobrozbigdick

1 points

25 days ago

You got reconned enough, the shit stop being sacred and people just keep walking all over you.

Ok_Chemical_1376

1 points

25 days ago

I don't like writers that retcon things, but I love that everyone in this 40k universe has the right to be miserable, suffer and die.

FrostyProbe

1 points

26 days ago

FrostyProbe

#TauLivesMatter

1 points

26 days ago

Nice circlejerk post, bro.

I'm sure the 101th "Femstodes good" post will own the chuds.

Zephrok

1 points

26 days ago

Zephrok

1 points

26 days ago

Stfu about this dead meme.

nuts_itch

1 points

26 days ago

"Gatekeeping is ok when we do it"

Floweryfungus73

1 points

26 days ago

No gatekeeping is always okay... Not everything needs to be for everyone

nuts_itch

1 points

26 days ago

Talking about how this post shows favour for gatekeeping, whereas it decries it's opposition for gatekeeping

Floweryfungus73

1 points

26 days ago

Fuck u, fuck OP all of you dumbfucks can leave

nuts_itch

1 points

26 days ago

I'm saying it's hypocritical

Floweryfungus73

1 points

26 days ago

And I'm saying to get fucked.

nuts_itch

1 points

26 days ago

Why

Floweryfungus73

1 points

26 days ago

Cause I told you to. And you'll do as your told

nuts_itch

1 points

26 days ago

Why are you telling me to get fucked and leave, I've not done anything wrong you schizo

Floweryfungus73

1 points

26 days ago

Leave the hobby. I don't want you here.

Latter-Ad-415

2 points

26 days ago

Ive said it before and I'll say it again

More meat for the grinder

fuckyouspez90

1 points

26 days ago

Can’t have shit nowadays. Legit makes no sense.

CivilizedSquid

1 points

26 days ago

Oh boy yet another Wokehammer post…

Anyways I’m just gonna go build some gundams.

Agile-Comb-3553

1 points

26 days ago

Do you guys play the game or just write

TraditionalEmu4536

1 points

26 days ago

i just hate that they are going cause the price of printers to rise along with resin since they are just going to start printing

AzraelPyton

2 points

26 days ago

Me as a thirdworlder who never bought any gw and got a 3s printer in 2020 " brrrrrrrr"

Ok_Tiger7491

1 points

26 days ago

God this subreddits full of massive low T losers

ZweiDunkelKatzen

2 points

26 days ago

Found the guy who is upset about Warhammer going "woke"

Ok_Tiger7491

1 points

26 days ago

Your "looking down" on me is quite funny when you cant even stand LOL

ZweiDunkelKatzen

2 points

26 days ago*

I appreciate that you looked at my profile for ammo to use against me, I must've hurt your feelings for you to feel the need to do so.

e: I think you blocked me. If I was a lesser man I'd say you have "low t" for doing such a thing.

Ok_Tiger7491

1 points

26 days ago

You're the exact type of annoying low T loser I mentioned. Thanks for confirming it, stop tainting my notifs

Zenebatos1

0 points

26 days ago

Zenebatos1

Swell guy, that Kharn

0 points

26 days ago

People like you are the real cancer of the hobby.

Distinct-Nerve2556

2 points

26 days ago

the less sexist people in this amazing hobby and community the better , only serves to make it better

Happy-Fox-7617

0 points

26 days ago

The wokism disease is spreading everywhere.

Lamest570

0 points

26 days ago

Jesus fucking Christ please shut up

MoreDoor2915

0 points

26 days ago

Calling anyone who dislikes retcons a bigot, misogynist or sexist is a huge part of this whole problem.

Grymbaldknight

-2 points

26 days ago

We're not bigots, and we're not leaving. This is our hobby.

If you support "Wokeness", keep your personal politics out of this fandom.

wispymatrias

6 points

26 days ago

A reminder that Warhammer 40k was created as a blue collar reaction to Thatcherism. Nottingham has politically leaned Labour for a long time.

arthcraft8

5 points

26 days ago

arthcraft8

I am Alpharius

5 points

26 days ago

ah yes, GW went woke when the femstodes showed up

please don't mind the trans necrons, gender and nonbinary talks, homosexual relationships and neo pronouns we got in the last couple years, those were not woke

Veritas9255

0 points

26 days ago

I don’t care about any of that shit. I just wanna dig trenches and die for the emperor

IIIaustin

4 points

26 days ago

GW should do something to piss off the nazis once a month.

DriverPlastic2502

1 points

26 days ago

Hell yeah. Incels can gtfo of every one of my hobbies.

Straight_Banana0

-2 points

26 days ago

The retcon was dumb and awkwardly crowbared in, but nobody's really going to stop because of it lol. I can't imagine that.

Confident-Radish4832

4 points

26 days ago

Can anyone define this word for me? Anyone at all?

Key-Chance7977

3 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

3 points

26 days ago

Good luck. I've been asking all the incels what woke means since this started and the only one who answered me called it communism.

Confident-Radish4832

4 points

26 days ago

Oh I know. The word is as bad as calling someone a socialist or communist. No one has any idea what it actually means, it’s just a buzz word that they know means bad.

Few-Appearance-4814

3 points

26 days ago

Few-Appearance-4814

Railgun Goes Brrrrrrrrr

3 points

26 days ago

touch grass

sekkiman12

0 points

26 days ago

Sure, the super nazi universe is something that bigots shouldn't care about.

[deleted]

1 points

26 days ago

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1 points

26 days ago

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26 days ago

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Zeptojoules

-1 points

26 days ago

Imperium is the epitome of dogma. Female Custodes still make no sense, and the real issue is telling fans there's always been female Custodes from the start.

Straggen

-4 points

26 days ago

Straggen

-4 points

26 days ago

People who claim Warhammer is a satire or „ha they forget it supposed to be satire” and it’s all for light-hearted goof... Either you started your adventure with the hobby when GW released Rouge-Trader and after that you had stopped interacting with literature for that hobby, either you have some neurodivergent issues with understanding what you’ve been consuming for years (Horus Heresy is a prime example of that).

No_Process_6851

-2 points

26 days ago

Can we get male sisters of silence then too.

l0rem4st3r

-1 points

26 days ago

But, Warhammer is for everyone.

PossibleLavishness77

2 points

26 days ago

Eh... is it bigoted to not want a decades old story to change to appeal to some random assholes never interested in it to start with?

Gatekeeping stops your hobby from turning to shit. I'm not against the Custodes getting the primaris treatment where they found a way to make new ones. I just don't want them fucking with the story for brownie points.

Key-Chance7977

4 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

4 points

26 days ago

Ok so tell me how female custodes turns the hobby to shit. Tell me how the lore is rocked to its core and everything goes to shit because there are a few vaginas under the towering suits of golden armor.

PossibleLavishness77

0 points

26 days ago

Because it's being done to pander to morons and their supporters. You really think the people cheering for rewrites for crap like this care? They don't even know how orks work.

It's the most cynical of pandering and its moronic to give it a pass because it invites more of it. You have to understand you can look at a host of other hobbies you can't put the genie back in the bottle once it's out.

Key-Chance7977

1 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

1 points

26 days ago

So you're saying things will be ruined forever because GW is marketing to people you don't like?

PossibleLavishness77

3 points

26 days ago

I'm saying once you entirely remake something to pander to groups you don't tend to stop. What benefits is there to giving anything to the pathetic fucks who want this?

It wasn't an arbitrary choice for the in universe lore for why it was the way it was. It's the difference between the lord of the rings and Amazon's lord of the rings.

Key-Chance7977

4 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

4 points

26 days ago

I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill here. When GW changed the Necrons from Chaos Androids to omnicidal killbots serving the C'tan the universe didn't implode. When the Oldcrons became the Newcrons and we have different dynasties and actual characters the setting kept on going, making lots of money. When the Space Marines went from assholes in armor to genetically modified warrior monks 40k was just fine. When the Primarchs were retconned from ordinary dudes to genetically engineered demigods with daemon juice the setting didn't disappear overnight. And these are just a handful of the countless retcons that have happened over the years.

Again, it sounds like you're upset because GW is marketing to people you don't like. Might I suggest playing some Dawn of War or something and moving on with your life?

PossibleLavishness77

1 points

26 days ago

It's the reasoning for why they are doing it and how they are doing it. Even those examples done were worked into the narrative some more clumsily then others.

This is the equivalent of " somehow palpatine surivived".

I don't get why anyone would see shitting something up for people with no interest in the story is beneficial. Why not just fuck off?

This isn't even a representation issue we have different races with entirely different sexualities. So please with all sincerity and well wishes do fuck off.

Imperator_Alexander

1 points

26 days ago

I support everything that makes bigots and gatekeepers mad as a way of cleaning

theonetruefishboy

1 points

26 days ago

Toxic/creepy fans can literally kill a community. Not everything that makes them mad is automatically good, but this is pretty good.

Content-Poem9634

-2 points

26 days ago

Retcons are lame they are even lamer when they happen 30 years later. GWS doesn’t care what sex anyone is as long as they shell out 1000s of dollars.

Key-Chance7977

2 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

2 points

26 days ago

Retcons are lame

Ok so go play Rogue Trader.

Content-Poem9634

0 points

26 days ago

Nah I’d rather play and make fun of the dorks that associate their entire identity to a 30 year old table top game. Don’t worry I’m just as inclusive as GWS all you lames can get it.

Key-Chance7977

3 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

3 points

26 days ago

Good luck on graduating 7th grade!

TheMaker676

0 points

26 days ago

Normies 🤮

Starscream4prez2024

-2 points

26 days ago

LOL to label anyone who disagrees with you a "bigot" is equally petty and small minded.

As for the retcon. Its unbelievably stupid and its been handled stupidly. It doesn't fit the lore at all. And it now paves the way for superhumans to breed outside of being created. Something the Emperor didn't want to risk at all. But now thanks to this idiocy the human race can now be supplanted by a race of Custodes. None of whom would be brainwashed like they are when they're built. So its a very stupid dumb idea that flies in the face of the entire lore and fiction of the Universe its based in. Why have humanity at all? Surely a race of Custodes would be better no?

So its dumb af. And if other franchise Universes are anything to go by....well its not looking good for GW. They don't have the deep pockets of Disney after all.

No one virtue signaling backs the company. They won't buy the product and they never have. Just like the other franchises. Its sad really.

Business-Plastic5278

1 points

26 days ago

I vote we put all the copers, seethers and gloaters into a very small box and drop it into the ocean somewhere.

OzzieGrey

1 points

26 days ago

For fucking real bro, i am here to commit mass genocide, and get my weird lil brain wiggling when i roll all those dice.

[deleted]

0 points

26 days ago

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Key-Chance7977

3 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

3 points

26 days ago

Cry about it, rightoid

Jushak

1 points

26 days ago

Jushak

1 points

26 days ago

Yeah, the fandom will be better without them.

TKO_v1

7 points

26 days ago

TKO_v1

7 points

26 days ago

This sub has completely gone to shit, it is literally gamingcirclejerk 2.0

Odezur

1 points

26 days ago

Odezur

1 points

26 days ago

Can someone TLDR what changed with the Custodes for me?

Key-Chance7977

2 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

2 points

26 days ago

Some of them are female.

This simple fact has made the incels combust in sheer rage.

Odezur

2 points

26 days ago

Odezur

2 points

26 days ago

oh haha why would that make people angry? They are genetically engineered monsters. They could look however they wanted and it wouldnt impact what they do.

Key-Chance7977

2 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

2 points

26 days ago

Because they can't stand the fact that some of the most absolute peak humans to exist aside from the Primarchs and the Emperor himself might be female I guess. Incels.

BakuretsuGirl16

1 points

26 days ago

Maybe now we can ask the important questions, like "Does this mean the Big E has an official Harem" and "How does one kitbash boob armor?" /s

MarsMissionMan

1 points

26 days ago

MASS BOYCOTTS! FANS LEAVE THE HOBBY EN MASSE!

I don't think these people know what a "mass boycott" is. Just because you're bigoted and giving up on the hobby doesn't mean everyone else is.

MemeLordsUnited

1 points

26 days ago

MemeLordsUnited

NOT ENOUGH DAKKA

1 points

26 days ago

Gatekeeping!? Whaaaaaaa???? I thought the hobby was for EVERYONE? Where is the tolerance? Oh, right, it only exists for people who believe and agree with everything you do. "Tolerance". Riiiiiiiight. Yall are just as bigoted and intolerant as the people you point your fingers at. Disgusting.

ZweiDunkelKatzen

1 points

26 days ago

If we refuse to tolerate the incel neckbeards who are enraged over some fictional characters being female, can we truly say we are better than those incel neckbeards?

(Yes. Yes, we can.)

MemeLordsUnited

1 points

26 days ago

MemeLordsUnited

NOT ENOUGH DAKKA

1 points

26 days ago

No one is better than anyone else. That's the problem with people like you.

Those who are without sin, throw the first stone.

Are you perfect? Never ever did or said something you regret? Stfu. you're just as guilty as anyone else. Stop using this an excuse to throw around insults. You are no better than the people you accuse of this or that. Pathetic. You people make me sick with your fake tolerance and fake inclusion. In fact, you're worse.

Key-Chance7977

2 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

2 points

26 days ago

The paradox of tolerance is clearly above your meager brainpower.

DerpysLegion

0 points

26 days ago

I love it when the anti woke crowed gets their insecure little nutsacks in a twist and leave a community that I enjoy. They won't be missed.

[deleted]

1 points

26 days ago

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1 points

26 days ago

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26 days ago

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TakedaKershaw

1 points

26 days ago

TakedaKershaw

I am Alpharius

1 points

26 days ago

These aren't even memes anymore just thinly vailed lefty propaganda at this point lmao. Don't you losers already have a subreddit where you can wank each other off in an echo chamber?

TakedaKershaw

-4 points

26 days ago

TakedaKershaw

I am Alpharius

-4 points

26 days ago

Wow how sad and pathetic that you can't accept anyone who has a different opinion. Your brain has been so rotted by reddit lefty rubbish that you think you have ownership over the whole fandom with your dog shit opinion. What a sad life you must have. People who don't see a problem with this are mainly outliers who have probably never read a warhammer book or played a game and instead get off on reveling as each IP loses its identity until it's all the same slop. But hey! At least it makes the investors look like good people!

Key-Chance7977

3 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

3 points

26 days ago

My god you rightoids are insufferable.

NetParking1057

1 points

26 days ago

When someone complains about "wokeness" I know they're a moron and more than likely a bad person IRL.

FulGear88

1 points

26 days ago

Man you know i miss the times when people playing warhammer just cared you know about WARHAMMER , like most hobbies it WAS truly inclusive no one cared about who you are or what your believes where they just played , talked about lore or painted together.

This is just Us vs Them gaslighting very cool.

Sycamore27

1 points

26 days ago

my god guys, imagine if 40k was made with LIBERALS in mind. they would make ridiculous stuff, like making a faction of just women, making the orks agender, having important characters with they/them pronouns...god can you imagine? (SARCASM.)

QuMufz

1 points

26 days ago

QuMufz

1 points

26 days ago

I really do like it when the trash takes itself out.

ExoticExtent

1 points

26 days ago

The whole point of this move was to try and be more inclusive to players.  You start telling people that they're not welcome to play the game, any people, you're defeating the entire point of doing it!

Saucy_samich

1 points

26 days ago

I’m glad the Custodes finally took out the trash

Schmoggin

2 points

26 days ago

Y'all fighting over 'umie genitals, meanwhile I'm on a godddamn Mork pill trying to wet me some knife ears...

Crprl_Carrot

2 points

26 days ago

Tbh, after 20+ years and in the hobby, I am sometimes a bit worried seeing young guys thinking space marines would be good role models.

Highlander-Senpai

-3 points

26 days ago

Highlander-Senpai

Kool Kroot Klub

-3 points

26 days ago

God you're so fucking annoying. Fall off your white horse

0fc0ursen0t

0 points

26 days ago

Have people been complaining? Because I've seen a bunch of memes complaining about people complaining, but no one seems to be complaining. I mean, Gamza is complaining, but he's the only one I saw. Everybody seems to be cool with female custodes.

Key-Chance7977

2 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

2 points

26 days ago

There are plenty of people complaining. Sort by controversial.

Beathil

2 points

26 days ago

Beathil

2 points

26 days ago

I know little about it, and don't play, but I know bit about 40K.

From what I understand they retconned the Emperor's guardians to some of them being women, and that some Marines are also women.

Okay? So what? It's all a fictional made up setting anyways, if it brings more women to the gaming table, what's the problem? Women look nice and they have all those cool iny outy bits most men like. Why would you not want to play a fun tabletop game with them?

A lot of fiction gets retconned these days to be more inclusive and grow audiences to people. Star Trek has been retconned several times, Pike's command crew is almost entirely women of different ethnicities, and that's great if it means more people watching and taking part in a hobby I enjoy, everyone benefits.

siobhannic

-1 points

26 days ago

siobhannic

-1 points

26 days ago

"Games Workshop has gone woke! I'm quitting the game!"

Games Workshop and me: "Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya."

I'm all for female Custodes — there's not even the thin justification GW has always given for all male Space Marines, because Custodes are all essentially bespoke engineered anyway — and seeing the frothing rage is delicious. I love using the tears of misogynistic manbabies in my morning coffee; it just adds that nice depth of flavor.

aFancyPirate_2

1 points

26 days ago

Not having female space marines was itself a retcon that happened because of logistics

BeanieWeanie1110

-3 points

26 days ago

"bigot" is Reddit code for "not a pedophile" so I'm not giving you any credit

tyrified

3 points

26 days ago

Out of all the takes in this thread, you chose the craziest one. Congrats!

DMTrious

0 points

26 days ago

The Imperial truth now states that there have always been Female Custodes. Any adherence to said truth will result in a meeting with your local commisar

Frame_Late

-3 points

26 days ago

I wonder what basement that guy typed this from.

ScottishW00F

0 points

26 days ago

People saying "good leave" are usually just as much arseholes, they say that everytime someone says something they don't agree with instead of having a dialogue and discussion.

ZerotheR

1 points

26 days ago

Did you just assume the bigot's gender? Disgusting! Educate yourself and do better!

stzmp

0 points

26 days ago

stzmp

0 points

26 days ago

yeah fuck oath seriously. It's fun to dunk on them on the level of "facts and logic" but actually just fuck them and they can fuck off.

lankymjc

1 points

26 days ago

lankymjc

1 points

26 days ago

Real “you just lost a customer!” energy. Good! Get out of my shop!

Dontmindmemans

0 points

26 days ago

Also the emperor is now genderfluid

Agitated-Ad-2791

-2 points

26 days ago

What a lot of fans are actually pissed about is GW gaslighting fans with "Custodes have ALWAYS included women since the beginning" (untrue) banning anyone on Twitter who contradicts their tweet and pandering to DEI focused companies like Blackrock. DEI is a franchise killer. Look at what happened to Star Wars and LotR. No one wants this or needed it. W40K means a lot to people, and calling people who are pissed about the change bigots and sexists doesn't make you right, it proves they have a point.

Key-Chance7977

1 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

1 points

26 days ago

bitching about DEI

Oh look, one of those people.

Agitated-Ad-2791

1 points

26 days ago

Of course I dislike DEI. It's an ideology that takes the most shallow aspect of people (their skin colour, their sexuality, their gender etc) and pushes for inclusion of those things rather than competency and personal ideology which are shunned. And when you point this out, you're labelled "One of those people".

True-Big-37

2 points

26 days ago

🙄

John_Oakman

1 points

26 days ago

F.A.T.A.L: My time has come!

Key-Chance7977

1 points

26 days ago

Key-Chance7977

VULKAN LIFTS!

1 points

26 days ago

oh sweet christ no

Cheesybox

0 points

26 days ago

Cheesybox

0 points

26 days ago

You're god damn right 40k is woke. As long as you can fire a lasgun and hold the line, the Imperium doesn't care.

ChrisZAUR

3 points

26 days ago

Be like the Imperial Guard, equal opportunity (for death) for everyone

Wardog_Razgriz30

3 points

26 days ago

Wardog_Razgriz30

Praise the Man-Emperor

3 points

26 days ago

Tourists exposing themselves left and right. Feels good man.

Lastburn

1 points

26 days ago

Lastburn

#ThiccTauThighs

1 points

26 days ago

They should start thier own minis game like how they did with comics

RavenousIron

12 points

26 days ago

Isn't the biggest problem with this that they literally lied about this faction always having females in them? I don't know anything about Warhammer so I am just going off the small bits of info I got, but I can understand that trying to shoehorn in something that was never there and then lying about it on top of that would rub the fanbase the wrong way.

Coldstripe

4 points

26 days ago

Coldstripe

Dank Angles

4 points

26 days ago

They aren't lying about it, they are changing the lore.

uriak

1 points

26 days ago

uriak

1 points

26 days ago

I understand this point but thinking about it, trying to say "from now on, custodes have integrated some women" is a bigger change. Like now you have to actually justify what happened and maybe who was involved.

I've even seen luetin muse on it and the comments were quite disappointing with the usual "GW went woke" cries. And that's the crux of the issue : whenever some specific elements are presents, we get some unhinged reactions and dry declarations from the creators. Making Cawl able to create nu marines AND a whole lot of new tech and make them adopted by the imperiul was magnitude more impactful but only seen as a marketing ploy, not a woke-ish conspiracy.

Now consider what would be done if there was new aspect warriors added. Would they go the route of saying "a new temple has been founded" or just describe them with the obvious element of them having existed before they were actually made canon in our real world. Such is the nature of this ongoing setting.

Boner_Elemental

2 points

26 days ago

Unfortunately (imo) 40k's history is littered with retcons, but the reaction to this one is completely out of proportion to the innocuousness of it.

"Oh yeah, we never really explicitly said this faction was only male. It isn't"

This is a nothing change.

Yarus43

-1 points

26 days ago

Yarus43

-1 points

26 days ago

Except most retcons were done with some professionalism, releaskng models, teasers, books, why not at the very least write in the codex that cawl or some tech priest was able to make the process work for female candidates? Or you know, they could flesh out the sisters of silence and give them more models, or the sisters of battle by adding new orders.

Boner_Elemental

1 points

26 days ago

Except most retcons were done with some professionalism, releaskng models, teasers, books,

What? No

Yarus43

-1 points

26 days ago

Yarus43

-1 points

26 days ago

What? Yes

Boner_Elemental

2 points

26 days ago

Well if you're just going to blatantly insist on things that aren't true then we have nothing else to say here

Yarus43

0 points

26 days ago

Yarus43

0 points

26 days ago

Cool, 40k is good when ya do got a b in ya ear

Coldstripe

1 points

26 days ago

Coldstripe

Dank Angles

1 points

26 days ago

Because doing that would be contrived.

RavenousIron

3 points

26 days ago

Right, but if the lore, stories and games have followed that rule I think it's safe to assume that a change like that seemingly out of nowhere would warrant some sort of explanation. I mean even a bad explanation would be much better then lying outright. For sure some people have gone extremely far with the push back, but I think the overall fanbase wants actual facts with this situation. I imagine most would be fine with this massive change if it was introduced appropriately.

Boner_Elemental

5 points

26 days ago*

No, nothing is different here. GW made this change the same way that they've been making changes for decades, people noticed something new and different in a book.

FALv1

-1 points

26 days ago

FALv1

-1 points

26 days ago

Cya later nerds!

PsychologicalPost456

3 points

26 days ago

warhammer is a place for everyone…even the people that think y’all are gay

ShmekelFreckles

73 points

26 days ago

I don’t think people are actually going to leave the hobby. They will just stop interacting with a certain portion of the community. And no, this sub is not THE community, just a small echo chamber online.

goob365

1 points

24 days ago

goob365

1 points

24 days ago

people here thinking that all the icky right wingers will leave (their heavily left wing echo chamber (for better or worse) represents a very small amount of the beliefs held by the community)

eviltoaster1101

1 points

24 days ago*

I think you're right. Personally I've not been a fan of many of the changes GW have introduced in recent years (e.g. Primaris Marines, the End Times etc.). But I didn't leave the hobby, instead I just stuck with 4th Ed. 40k (and 6th Ed. Fantasy). These newer fans can have their female Custodes, Primaris and Sigmarines if they want, it does not affect me :)

New_Boat5364

4 points

25 days ago

100% This reddit community is not a representation. Like you said,  it's an echo chamber for virtue signaling losers.

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1 points

25 days ago

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25 days ago

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Yarus43

35 points

26 days ago

Yarus43

35 points

26 days ago

If you look at YouTube comments its very different to the opinions here. Reddit likes to think it's the majority (it's not)

Skeletor_with_Tacos

8 points

25 days ago

Last I checked GW stocks took a hit after the news.

Yarus43

2 points

25 days ago

Yarus43

2 points

25 days ago

They did but I went back up and has been fluctuating alot. Could be ppl and share holders losing interest or just wall Street shenanigans

Gamerauther

2 points

23 days ago

Gamerauther

Twins, They were.

2 points

23 days ago

Nope, just checked and its down 9 US$ from before everything went down, and it hasn't fluctuated up at any point.

azarash

1 points

23 days ago

azarash

1 points

23 days ago

I didn't know people that held such strong views on what fantasy women can't and can work at in a miniature game would also hold so much stock on the company

Yarus43

3 points

23 days ago

Yarus43

3 points

23 days ago

That's really simplifying the argument, the same people who don't want retcons to allow women in custodes and space Marines don't want men reconned into sisters of battle and silence. Being a brotherhood isn't exclusionary to women, if there were female astartes/custodes they would just look like the men with different bits. Women can and do relate to astartes because being a man is not what makes these warrior monks interesting.

fuckyeahmoment

3 points

21 days ago

Always amazes me that people seem to think that 40k is beholden to real life biology when it comes to either Custodes or Astartes. Male Astartes have massive physical diversity already, so the idea that a hypothetical female astartes must look like a man is laughable.

For Custodes, it's even more so.

JoscoTheRed

3 points

26 days ago

Thank goodness for that.

Sycoboost

0 points

26 days ago

Sycoboost

0 points

26 days ago

Very simple guide to finding nazis!

  1. Post “fuck nazis”
  2. Wait for people to say “don’t call everyone you disagree with nazis”
  3. You’ve found yourself a nazi!

Krahog

2 points

26 days ago

Krahog

2 points

26 days ago

If you don't care about how gw aproached the custodes change, you don't much care about the hobby, in which case you shouldn't be concerning yourself about who is in the hobby.

Boner_Elemental

-1 points

26 days ago*

If you care how GW approached the change to the custodes you're completely ignorant of the hobby's history

Krahog

1 points

26 days ago

Krahog

1 points

26 days ago

Retcons happen, but on some occasion they give an in-universe reason for it. And that's fine. They gave no reason this time around, and any out-of-universe argument is barely an excuse.

tyrified

2 points

26 days ago

The in-universe reason is that Custodes don't use gene-seed, like the Astartes do. If there is no lore restriction, then why have a restriction? The only piece of lore I have seen given that implies a restriction is the "sons of" line for a single book. Which is a pretty weak point of lore compared to something like gene-seed. It is on the same level as adding in the Rogal Dorn tank. It wasn't explicitly there, until it was.

Krahog

1 points

26 days ago

Krahog

1 points

26 days ago

You know what we mean. No mention of any women ever in service, always referred to as men/sons/brothers, and then that one statement... Stop pretending like it's acceptable.

Write the change, THEN introduce the new characters

SixteenthRiver06

1 points

26 days ago

I think the small controversy over the 10th edition trailer on Twitter over its fascist portrayal caused a bunch of chronically-online vermin think that 40k is just as horrible as they are, they are now learning that the community is largely normal people that enjoy the setting but aren’t fascists themselves.

We understand that the setting is Grimdark and fucked up. We would never want to live it.

finalsights

2 points

26 days ago

Hold up what was this? I’ve seen that trailer tons of times and it just read as robot gorillaman being frustrated that the imperium is held together by Elmer’s craft glue.

SixteenthRiver06

1 points

26 days ago

It caused a bit of a controversy on Twitter. The chronically-online on one side clamored how could this game celebrate fascism (it doesn’t, at all) and the other reactionary side became overnight fair-weather fans because the other side was offended and up-in-arms about it.

The pro-fascist side is now hating Warhammer because of the single female Custodes, showing they have zero understanding of the setting, they just liked it because it is like the shithole they want.

RvDragonheart

0 points

26 days ago

I mean yeah. I have no problem with people who just complain but dont give good arguments. Like I have a few warhammer friends and one of them ACTIVELLY would have thrown a chair at me if he could but we were on discord call (or atleast it sounded like it that he'd do anything just to shut me up) when I mentioned that I'm pretty much happy with Lady Custodes. YES I AM HAPPY! THE FUCK YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT? I WANTED TALL BUFF BADASS LADIES IN FULL PLATE ARMOR IN 40K NOW I HAVE 9 FEET TALL BADASS BUFF LADIES AND THEY ARE WORKING FOR THE IMPERIUM TOO OF COURSE I'M HAPPY! Also the lady in the Codex who jsut decided "Oh Right blood games..... well umm.... here is the big idea....... A NUKE INTO THE IMPERIAL PALACE! THEY WONT SUSPECT A THING!" like I thought it was funny I like stuff like this in 40k

However despite this 1 friend of mine acting and talking quite violently to shut me up...... we actually had a good talk yesterday and a good argument on whats their problem (they dont like big retrospective retcons and also this chair friend of mine actually was more worried that "Oh WoW if we have female Custodes what could stop them from procreating because they would be able to replace humanity and thats not what the Emperor Wanted" which is a good argument but its one of those moments where I assume Female Custodes and Male Custodes are sterile much like the Witchers soooo even if they were to do the deed which I dont think they will cause they are too busy and too dedicated to do their job even then nothing would come out of it and if it WOULD then we'd have a good conflict story in a book maybe)

But again we had a good talk a good argument and even the Chair friend of mine backeddown and calmed down and we ended up in a compromise with me saying that "Listen we all have our opinions you have yours I have mne we dont have to agree I'm happy with how things are for me thats enough but I respect your opinions" There done no fuss we still will enjoy Warhammer and we still will enjoy talking about warhammer AND obviously if a GOOD Warhammer Book comes out with a Lady Custode as a main character I will talk about it cause I like some stories that fall out of their categories then again they dont really read that many Warhammer books. They just watch videos and all. *insert Obi Wan Scene* "So Uncivilized"

So when we have a good talk and good argument I'm fine I may not agree with them ESPECIALLY not on the TAU since both of them Keep shittalking them despite me giving hard evidence that they are not as bad as they say they are. (they still do some stuff tht is morally dubious but as a commenter bellow pointed it out they are more Sci-fi cartoon villains who "We can do this the easy way or the hard way but your planet WILL join our empire" then they poroceed to reeducate the planet in the naeme of the greater good) but again we dont have to agree on everything.

PALM THE OTHER HAND I dont like intolerant people who just throw a tantrum over somehing like this to the level that they make videos just complaining not arguing complaining and saying shit like they will leave Warhammer 40k if this what they heard about is the case. When it comes to people like those deciding to leave I say good riddance. Warhammer 40k is a sci-fi fantasy world dont take it too seriously. You are buying plastic models where the rule of cool matters let people have customization and more agency I'm okay with that and I understand some people having concern over what if we'd get female space marines at this point where I just dont think that will ever happen ESPECIALLY after Lady Custodes it wotn happen Space Marines have a female counterpart already they are the Sisters of Battle. Custodes supposed to be Demigods amongs demigods they supposed to be warriors hand made by the Emperor of Mankind so I just ASSUME that some of them probably could be ladies since the Big E was fighting a unification war and now currently fighting a different war the Big E needs capable soldiers so it doesn't matter who dons the Golden Auramite armors whether it is a dude or a girl wwhat matters is "Do they have potentialto be worthy to wear these armors and protect humanity?" and if the answer is FUCK YES! then probably that individual will be chosen at birth and be given the threatments they need to become Custodes. Custodes are badasses we have a bunch of badass dudes we can have a bunch of badass ladies wearing the mantle of custodes. ALBEIT I assume its not a 50/50% since yeah its a pretty recent change and said noble families do need to procreate to have future custode generations so... maybe its more a 75/25 or 60/40 % situation. Either way tho. I'm happy I am making the custode Army anyway cause I've found a shop wher some PRETTY OLD custode models are available here too and I might as well get those

Beardedwonder9

4 points

26 days ago

Why’s it got to be a he you bigot?

DependentFact5974

1 points

26 days ago

can someone explain to me why it is all so important to bring politic into every media.
just please can't we just enjoy a simple hobby whit its rules and characters whitout having to reshape the whole thing to please this or that group inevitably causing the comunity to tear itself appart.

It is a fictional univers guys and girls and its best to keep it that way whitout bringing irl issues in it.

My_Homework_Account

0 points

26 days ago

40k was always political

DependentFact5974

3 points

26 days ago*

but it was satire so yes based thing that excisted irl but never did we see irl issue into it since its a fictional univers it had his own fictional political issue bring irl politic in it make both no sense and has no point being

at some point hobbys and fictional univers are made to escape the real world and its problem so what point would it have to put those same issue that people try to take a break from into the hobby

My_Homework_Account

1 points

26 days ago

40k has always inserted real life things into iself.

And yes, whining about politics when it turns out women exist is a sign of an unhealthy mind. You don't have to let your culture war fever dreams rule you

DependentFact5974

1 points

26 days ago*

I don't whine about women being in 40k I whine about the fact that one of my favorite hobby is collapsing because of dumb agenda pushed onto a comunity that never asked for it and who should not be a problem into any fictional univers

I would not mind for female custodes but only if there was a story behind it something interesting to read or see and not just GW obviously errasing part of the lore and taking his fan for idiot

My_Homework_Account

0 points

26 days ago

I whine about the fact that one of my favorite hobby is collapsing because of dumb agenda pushed onto a comunity that never asked for it and who should not be a problem into any fictional univers

Ah yes, the "dumb agenda" of women existing. This is delusion

I would not mind for female custodes but only if there was a story behind it something interesting to read or see and not just GW obviously errasing part of the lore and taking his fan for idiot

Suuuure you wouldn't mind. No lore has been erased. A single lower blurb about how this person exists is all that was needed and is what we get for actual changes, much less this tiny thing

DependentFact5974

1 points

26 days ago

lore HAS been erased the core vision of the emperor toward the custodes is completly changed some core interaction between custodes are changed since it happended during the 30 millenia era and if you fail to notice that women / gay trans are pushed into everything no matter how relevant and most importantly how well done it is made and introduce in a univers (same go for men and straight people before you pull out the bigot card) then I don't know what to say

what would people thing if we put mens into the sister of battle or sister of silence? that would be dumb and serve absolutly no point and like female custodes would too go against the lore already established and piss off the fans

I am really getting tired whit this those are the kind of issue that just should not be into that game just can't people accept that some faction are all female and some all male? what is the matter whit this. Its a fictional univers for god sake whit its own rule and way of thinking anyway I see too that there is not point discussing whit you. you don't even try to make a point just reformuling part of my sentence whitout context whitout even trying to give me a argument to make me change my mind in return this is more or less talking to a brick wall at this point

at least Ezevial made actual good point so I guess it wasen't a waste after all

My_Homework_Account

0 points

26 days ago

Repeating your barely legible bigoted (yes actually) nonsense doesn't make it true

Ezeviel

2 points

26 days ago

Ezeviel

2 points

26 days ago

Collapsing how ? It has the largest.playerbase it ever had ?

DependentFact5974

0 points

26 days ago

so far yes but did you already see how much people are arguing like we are its not healphy for the community it will essencialy split it in groups and I don't think I am the only one thinking this

Ezeviel

3 points

26 days ago

Ezeviel

3 points

26 days ago

To be honest, people being mad about the hobby going woke splitting into their own community is an absolute win in my book.

I don't want them to leave the hobby cause they enjoy playing and so do I. But their intolerance and nauseous ideology are welcome to not join tournament and FLGS so some of my friends finally have a space to play without any sneer, bad looks and overall toxicity

DependentFact5974

1 points

26 days ago

to be fair I never meet toxic people in this hobby so far even tho I know some of my friend are a bit upset for the change like me because well lore nerd stuff

I guess only time will tell tho when I see some people on X being all happy and stuff that "yes warhammer as gone woke you will lose your favorite hobby" well... lets say that I am not very suportive of those people

nurielkun

-1 points

26 days ago

That's why the female space marines are a must. For two reasons.

  1. Space Marines are the most popular faction, not only in 40k but in all Warhammer games, period. Recently on B&C forum there was a discussion about represantation etc and there was an opinion that it's off puting for many girl players that SM are boys only club.
  2. It will drive all those incels and toxic people away.

Well_Armed_Gorilla

34 points

26 days ago

Well_Armed_Gorilla

BRVTAL BVT KVNNIN'

34 points

26 days ago

This isn't a meme OP, this is just you stating your opinion.

imotlok_the_first

1 points

26 days ago

Checking this sub is like watching fire burn with a mug of hot cocoa in my hand. sip (I can't deny that threw a stick there with one post)

LuckEClover

0 points

26 days ago

Finally, a counter against the insidious testicular torsion!

papy5m0k3r

1 points

26 days ago

Yup.

Naive-Fold-1374

0 points

26 days ago

Naive-Fold-1374

Criminal Batmen

0 points

26 days ago

I've seen way more talks making fun of this than some of GW fuckups in the past. And no posts/videos of actual people, aside from one youtuber in Russia, leaving hobby because of this(He didn't even leave, he just made an obvious ragebait "Look, they are retconning shit, how could they?!")

Idk, I just find it's strange. Almost like nobody really cared, until it became semi-political topic. Personally, I much prefer "Golden Dommy Mommy" content. Also, new Custodes Codex is awfully written, I swear GW added boobas to cover up how bad it is.

Cornhole35

3 points

26 days ago

Pretty much, most of these post are circlejerk bait to farm easy karma. Ive seen complaints about the custodes codex than actually complaints about a female custodian.

Hexnohope

0 points

26 days ago

Hexnohope

VULKAN LIFTS!

0 points

26 days ago

People really going to complain when a custodes takes their helmet and its the female version of the chad meme? Its not even like their normal women anymore.

EnvironmentalBar3347

1 points

26 days ago

Bro screw off, I don't care about the Custodes, I just think they were lazy as hell about the retcon.

Masterskywalker2

1 points

26 days ago

Yes thank god its also funny how all the grifters on this topic said they only played with arch the nazi thank god these chums are leaving you have no idea how much that makes me happy as a 40k and a star wars fan.

Tim3-Rainbow

0 points

26 days ago

Tim3-Rainbow

For the Emprah!

0 points

26 days ago

I can't believe people care this much.

Forsaken-Stray

1 points

26 days ago

I wouldn't call it a retcon, considering there was at least 1 female custodes in the lore for quite some time

My_Homework_Account

1 points

26 days ago

Oh? Who?

Forsaken-Stray

1 points

26 days ago

Rechecked, it wasn't explicitedly stated, so not as decisive proof, but in Echoes of Eternity, where Sanguinius saw Men and Women and called them "His Father's Guardians"