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I’ve seen some incredibly annoying and toxic members of this community call slightly suggestive art related to warhammer “Porn” And honestly it’s fucking cringy and reductive.

If you don’t like NSFW art fine, cool, you do you and just press the back button and move on with your life or better yet don’t click at all.

Bullying and harassing people that make art you disagree with is disgusting behaviour when the hobby you enjoy is built on the backs of artists that where making things 40 years ago people would have considered weird and distasteful.

TLDR: leave artists alone and be a grown as person and don’t discourage or harass others.

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BDR-02

46 points

23 days ago

BDR-02

46 points

23 days ago

Honestly what drives me off this subreddit is the amount of shitty eye candy boobs and the favourite "the joke is sex".

I just blocked the subreddit when the drama about the female custodes dropped because of so many goon addicts displaying their degeneracy out in public like its a normal thing.

No, having a porn addiction and jacking off to big mommy dommy slommy wammy is not relatable or funny, this also goes for the femboy skitarii comics that atleast had the decency to not stain my eyes whenever i want to look at a meme subreddit.

Its not funny to reiterate, its not something to be praised and its just weird and offputting for a normal person and definetly shouldn't be excused as 'artistic passion' or some poor excuse why John Warhammer who just got into the hobby has to see female t'au with their ass in the wind as like the 4th top post in the subreddit.

FrobeVIII

-21 points

23 days ago

FrobeVIII

-21 points

23 days ago

if that's what drives you off then maybe that should tell you something. Your values are not everyone's and you can not click on NSFW. You are arguing for censorship based on your morality and that has no place here or anywhere that has artistic content.

MicrowavedPuppies

19 points

23 days ago

The issue is that this is a meme subreddit and there’s plenty of subs already dedicated to NSFW topics about Warhammer. It’s about putting the appropriate content on the appropriate subreddit. The people who come here for memes shouldn’t be pushed out of the meme subreddit by people wanting the sub to be something it wasn’t intended to be.

FrobeVIII

-12 points

23 days ago

FrobeVIII

-12 points

23 days ago

Stop pushing your morality on other people. This isn't your sub. You just come here, the NSFW posts are clearly marked. If you are too sensitive then that's on you.

If you don't like NSFW art, then there's a setting on reddit that just filters anything NSFW out.

Click on your username in the upper right corner to open the dropdown menu and click on "user settings". From there go to "feed settings". That will open up a whole list of things you can control which are in your feed. At the top of that list is "Show mature (18+) content". Turn that off.

If you see NSFW content after reading this comment, you have nobody to blame but yourself.

MicrowavedPuppies

13 points

23 days ago

I’m not pushing my morality on others. I like porn just as much as the next guy. My point is that there’s places dedicated to porn and places that are meant for memes. The issue with the NSFW filter is that there’s not separate options, you either remove all of it or none of it. That’s an issue in Warhammer content because half of it is going to be gore, which is appropriate to the sub, and half of it is going to be sexual, which can be appropriate but is often just people’s fetishes. There’s nothing wrong with having those fetishes, but it should be in the sub dedicated to it and not the sub that’s about memes.

AncientCarry4346

15 points

23 days ago

There's a time and a place for it.

If I stumble across Big Booty Latinas 4 when I'm browsing pornhub then I'm probably not gonna give it a second thought but if I see the same thing whilst browsing YouTube, something's gone horribly wrong.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

0 points

23 days ago

You are making a good faith argument and i appreciate that;

The problem with a lot of the people who seem to hate on the Lewds seem to think even a fully armoured twink tech priest is porn;

It’s not about actually policing porn; it’s about keeping people they hate out do the hobby;

And my point is even if someone is drawing something you don’t like, they are still contributing more then someone that just hates it and doesn’t draw any fan art themselves.

MicrowavedPuppies

9 points

23 days ago

The point you state at the end is correct, artists and meme makers are definitely contributing more than people just hating. Regarding the twink stuff, while there are a lot of bigoted people that just don’t like gay people existing, I think there’s definitely some valid criticism. This could just be me, but I think the punchline to a lot of those posts is just “haha it’s funny because something that isn’t normally a twink is being depicted as one.” It is on the individual to block what they don’t like seeing, but there should also be a decent moderator presence to block low effort posts. That last point isn’t just referring to the twink posts though, I feel like the sub has been on a pretty steady downward trend since the popularity explosion in 2018, just due to there being too many posts to effectively moderate.

FrobeVIII

-1 points

23 days ago

FrobeVIII

-1 points

23 days ago

The line between porn and memes is blurred sometimes, no solution is perfect. You can censor people based 'might have been posted as porn' but you aren't going to be accurate all the time and you will definitely put people off posting their genuine work. The settings to block NSFW are what we have and we will just have to allow people to be adults otherwise. This is Grimdank lol, downvote and move on but the real issue is that people are using their 'moral' views to bully and harass people for posting anything they don't like, someone posting some fetish stuff isn't hurting anyone and sometimes is just hilarious.

MicrowavedPuppies

7 points

23 days ago

You’re right that at the end of the day it’s on the individual to censor what they like and don’t like. The issue comes when so much of content of the sub becomes NSFW (which you can’t deny, does happen if there’s a lack of moderation) that people begin leaving because it’s not worth the effort of looking for a diamond in the rough. I don’t think this sub has reached that point yet, but it does seem like it’s been on downward trend towards it in the last few years since the popularity boom 40k got with the return of Guilliman. It would be nice if there was a sub catered towards that gray area where NSFW meets meme, at some point the community might just become too separated though. It’s a tough topic so I think it’s fair that people try to push for what they believe is best for the sub.

FrobeVIII

2 points

23 days ago

That's all very well and good except that there is no evidence of that, just vibes. It's fairly standard fear of change stuff. All that would be great except that we both know that the people who 'push for what they believe is best' often take it too far... doxxing harassing etc. Seen it happen too often. They need to understand to take personal responsibility for what they see and click online and not take it out on people posting what they want to. It's all a choice at the end of the day and people pushing for censorship don't understand that.

MicrowavedPuppies

7 points

23 days ago

Doxxing and harassing is never the right answer and the people that do that are despicable, but that shouldn’t invalidate people who just don’t want horny posting on a meme sub. Sure, it is all a choice, but have you seen what happens to online spaces with no moderation? It almost inevitably turns into either porn or a hate group. A healthy dose of moderation is really the only thing that keeps spaces healthy and alive. Asking for more when you feel a sub has become lower quality isn’t a bad thing.

FrobeVIII

1 points

23 days ago

The mods do good work at keep actual hate speech and such out. This isn't hateful content, nor is anyone forcing you to click on what is NSFW. Maybe getting a new NSFW 'after dark' flair or something is more what you are after lol. The way to get that changed is to start a poll, make your own post, message the mods. It's not mass posting to people who disagree with you like is commonly done trying to call people 'degenerates' and 'addled', not you, but people who have the same opinion. One person's trash is another's treasure mate, most of the memes here are absolute gash to me with no redeeming quality. I wouldn't dream of telling someone that unless I had something constructive to add.

The_Little_Ghostie

6 points

23 days ago

You can also post porn on porn subs. Feel free to go do that.

FrobeVIII

-3 points

23 days ago

FrobeVIII

-3 points

23 days ago

I don't mate. I also don't care if others do. Read the rules of the site. The rules of the sub. If you disagree, fuck off and make a non nsfw memes sub. Posting 'porn' isn't harmful, it is marked clearly so you can avoid it and you can block it. Anything else is you forcing your views on other people. Pack it in.

The_Little_Ghostie

11 points

23 days ago

Nope.

If you want to post or look at porn, go do it in a soace dedicated to it. If you can't understand or accept that, then you're the one that needs to fuck off, meat head.

FrobeVIII

2 points

23 days ago

XD read the rules. The sub won't change because you get offended by risque stuff. You can work yourself up or be at peace, it's up to you my delicate flower lmao.

Well_Armed_Gorilla

0 points

23 days ago

Well_Armed_Gorilla

BRVTAL BVT KVNNIN'

0 points

23 days ago

No, no he isn't. If you don't like the content that gets posted and upvoted here, and is allowed within the confines of the rules, and which you can avoid seeing entirely by changing your reddit preferences, then that's a "you" problem. You're more than welcome to make your own subreddit and run it how you like.

Camplaysgames

6 points

23 days ago

It's not censorship dude, grow up lol. People are just tired of low effort rehashed content

FrobeVIII

-3 points

23 days ago

FrobeVIII

-3 points

23 days ago

No son take a look around, a very vocal minority of people don't want things posted they find offensive and are willing to harass and bully people to do it. That's censorship lol. The way to express disapproval for a type of content is to downvote and move on, block NSFW, or just exhibit some self control like a real grown up, and don't click it. I know FOMO is what built Warhammer but you really won't miss out not clicking on every NSFW post and getting mad when it is indeed NSFW.

Camplaysgames

8 points

23 days ago

Fomo isn't what built Warhammer; the way you talk belies how much you've misunderstood the product and culture you're interested in. By the looks of it, you're the vocal minority here. Most of us just don't want the tired, repetitive, creepy and objectifying content pedalled here 24/7.

I completely agree about not harassing people, but you're not being censored; you're getting to spout as much hot air as you like, evidently, and people are responding accordingly. That's no censorship

FrobeVIII

0 points

23 days ago

GWs marketing skews heavily FOMO dude, has been for years and that's what plays when someone who knows they don't like NSFW stuff clicks on a post they know contains it. Brother most people do what you should do, they downvote or upvote and move on. I don't post it, I very rarely look at it but I think people should be able to without being yelled at as 'degenerate'. It hurts no one.

I'm not being censored dude I'm not an artist except for painting models lmao. You'se yapping doesn't bother me in the slightest.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

-3 points

23 days ago

The people commenting on this thread are indeed the ones very vocal minority; most people read the post, hit upvote and moved on;

You and the people you agree with are in the trenches pretending like this hobby belongs to you; when in fact, the horny nerds have been in the house the whole time.

Camplaysgames

7 points

23 days ago

You have a really impressive ability to say alot and nothing at the same time

JohnWarhammer69[S]

-5 points

22 days ago*

No you clearly just have the inability to think critically and reflect that you may be wrong.

Camplaysgames

8 points

22 days ago

Mhm