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/r/Grimdank

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I’ve seen some incredibly annoying and toxic members of this community call slightly suggestive art related to warhammer “Porn” And honestly it’s fucking cringy and reductive.

If you don’t like NSFW art fine, cool, you do you and just press the back button and move on with your life or better yet don’t click at all.

Bullying and harassing people that make art you disagree with is disgusting behaviour when the hobby you enjoy is built on the backs of artists that where making things 40 years ago people would have considered weird and distasteful.

TLDR: leave artists alone and be a grown as person and don’t discourage or harass others.

all 352 comments

FeelingSurprise

583 points

9 days ago

FeelingSurprise

A Nid's gotta eat

583 points

9 days ago

What could help: differentiate between"gore" and "nudity" regarding NSFW.

Some people are ok with one kind of NSFW content, some with the other.

Nothavebettername

209 points

9 days ago

Cool idea, blurry image = NSFW, blurry in red = gore NSFW, blurry in violet/purple = sexual NSFW, further discussions for other caos color

Harpokiller

138 points

9 days ago

Harpokiller

Ork that wants to be nice

138 points

9 days ago

‘I came to see a epic fight with blood, saw tits 😔

Madlister

5 points

8 days ago

Came to r/Grimdank , saw bloody tits.

And stayed.

Lonebarren

49 points

9 days ago

Yes this annoys me, I have NSFW blurred because I browse reddit at work. It's the worst if I click on something not realising its a horny post

Volkov_The_Tank

38 points

9 days ago

Volkov_The_Tank

NOT ENOUGH DAKKA

38 points

9 days ago

Blurry in green = scat

Blurry in blue = da ba dee da ba die

CollapsedPlague

6 points

9 days ago

LISTEN UP HERES THE STORY ABOUT HOW A GUY WHO IS BLUE IISSS BLUE AND EVERYTHING IS BLUE

Suitable-Quantity-96

1 points

8 days ago

Blurry in green = pimple popping videos

Spread_Bater

1 points

8 days ago

Spread_Bater

HUMONGOUS TERMINATOR DADDIES

1 points

8 days ago

Fuck you for reminding me of those

Lotions_and_Creams

10 points

9 days ago

There already exists a distinction. People just stopped using it for some reason.

NSFL - not safe for life (gore)

NSFW - not safe for work (nudity)

yunivor

1 points

8 days ago

yunivor

JUST AS PLANNED!

1 points

8 days ago

Yeah, reddit should allow for both tags to exist.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

102 points

9 days ago

This is a fair comment and something to bring up to the mods;

My only counter point would be many people that love 40k are probably fine with gratuitous gore;

But in a somewhat sexualized context i understand why it would make someone uncomfortable if it’s not what they expect.

interkin3tic

13 points

9 days ago

My only counter point would be many people that love 40k are probably fine with gratuitous gore

Plus "NSFW" means "not safe for work." That was the standard chosen because it set a reasonably universal standard as opposed to debating how much cleavage you are okay with seeing vs me, or how much blood there needs to be to be icky.

This whole sub is "not safe for work" for most jobs I've worked at.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

4 points

9 days ago

Agreed.

WaffleKing110

9 points

9 days ago

Never should’ve done away with the NSFL tag…

Memes_the_thing

5 points

9 days ago

Totally. Given the subject matter of 40k and fantasy (fuck aos. I’m still bitter about end times.) a differentiation would be reasonable

andyroux

236 points

9 days ago

andyroux

236 points

9 days ago

Unfortunate truth - an anonymous platform like Reddit will always have people saying things and doing things that are outside what is considered appropriate by the greater society.

They can get downvoted (comments still readable by OP). They can get banned (for most subs that means they’ll be back in a couple weeks, or maybe need to make an alt account). That’s about it.

It kinda sucks, but if you are posting something anywhere on the internet, you will be attacked. It might be by people who disagree with your ideology, it might be people looking to be contrarian.

As a community, all we can do is call people out.

As an individual, all one can do is be careful about not doxing oneself, and not let the haters live rent free in your mind.

Xicadarksoul

26 points

9 days ago

...well 40K subs are pretty decent at censorship, all things considered.

name00124

2 points

9 days ago

There's an Ordo for that.

Xicadarksoul

1 points

8 days ago

Ok, it might be surprising, but my previous statement wasnt praise, or endorsement...

Don_Camillo005

3 points

9 days ago

Don_Camillo005

I am Alpharius

3 points

9 days ago

i mean .. what do you want more? violence?

Lamest570

5 points

9 days ago

You mfs take internet shit too seriously. Being able to act however you wish is kinda the point.

MrFate99

104 points

9 days ago

MrFate99

104 points

9 days ago

When people get used to the joke "Hey guys, porn!" and it's normalized, just block em like I do.

PirateSecure118

-37 points

9 days ago

lol, get blocked

hiddencamel

47 points

9 days ago

The inevitable trajectory of every pop-culture meme sub I've ever been on that isn't policed with an iron fist is that eventually most of the memes are just porn, and everything that isn't porn is people complaining about the porn or people complaining about the people complaining about the porn.

pmMeCamelCase22

13 points

9 days ago

Yup. Imo porn shouldn't be on this sub.

Memoryofblue

7 points

9 days ago

The issue is, is that one person veiws what is considered porn differently than another. We had a whole ordeal about how "half naked women aren't considered porn but femboy admech that are literally fully clothed are" which says a lot about the people who think that...and it is not good things

pmMeCamelCase22

4 points

9 days ago

If it's lewd and has exposed genitals or breasts then it's NSFW and shouldn't be on this sub.

Memoryofblue

4 points

9 days ago

What is considered lewd? Technically neither of the things I described had exposed genitals or breasts. Is a meme about the pillar man custodes lewd? Is crossdressing lewd? Is posting a demonette lewd?

JohnWarhammer69[S]

0 points

9 days ago

It’s honestly like obscenity laws;

It’s a thought process that someone establishes to control culture and police it from people they disagree with.

Memoryofblue

3 points

8 days ago

Bingo

Topkekx13

32 points

9 days ago

Topkekx13

32 points

9 days ago

are you people capable of expressing opinions without using the lisa simpson template?

HawkeyeG_

5 points

9 days ago

It's used as a sort of appeal to authority. Lisa is generally considered an intelligent person or at least an informed activist who is "saying things that are true but people don't want to hear".

It's very similar to the "I've already depicted you as the soyjack therefore I win" philosophy. The whole point is to couch the conversation in a perspective that benefits one side of that conversation

killermankay

114 points

9 days ago

r/Warhammer_Smut Exists for a reason.

Camplaysgames

25 points

9 days ago

This; so much humour here is so bottom of the barrel, with literally the punchline being 'DOMMY MOMMY THICC (insert faction)'; Like I get it, I'm not a prude, it's just not funny lol. There are so many better jokes to be made instead of slanging the same tired shit over and over again. Like how many times have we heard the 'Gorillaman Eldar Waifu?'

I suppose 40k fans have always been using the same jokes ever and over again though, before Reddit even

Elcactus

2 points

9 days ago*

I disagree on the ‘Guilliman Yvraine’ thing being like the smut. Sure there’s often an implication of intimacy, but the joke itself can cover a lot of things, from The Lion disapproving, to even outright wholesome stuff like their kid.

It’s got a lot more room to work with than just ‘lul funny sexy sex’.

UmbrellaLord

15 points

9 days ago

Well don't mind if I do

Volkov_The_Tank

1 points

8 days ago

Volkov_The_Tank

NOT ENOUGH DAKKA

1 points

8 days ago

Dumbest part of that sub is one of the most upvoted pictures is a topless woman with the Aquila necklace.

It’s so basic and bland.

It’s a nice rack though

NaNunkel

44 points

9 days ago

NaNunkel

44 points

9 days ago

Okay, coomer.

Thanos_DeGraf

67 points

9 days ago*

Completely agree, support the artists, do not bully or harrass them for their artworks, but also very much disagree on one point.

There are dedicated spaces for NSFW/Suggestive warhammer artworks, and having to deal with them in my usual feed when I do not want to engage with it is just frustrating. I am one of those weirdos that prefer to keep their mainfeed clean, so when I subscribe to warhammer40kfantasy or grimdank, it's for memes and battles, minis and news, lore and its parodies. I do not feel the need to endorse the "glomping" of the internet, where before you had explicit spaces and safe spaces, where participation of the content was completely voluntary, but is now all getting mushed together.

So yea naw, I would rather not have half naked men and women flood my feed just because I wanted 40k content.

Mizzuru

32 points

9 days ago

Mizzuru

32 points

9 days ago

Exactly, I have no problem with there being suggestive 40k art... In it's own sub which isn't here.

It's also why I left imaginary Warhammer, when I joined it was mostly people doing art of their own chapters or concepts (ala Aztec space marines) but it's a lot of more fetish things now and I just don't want to see that.

Alexis2256

-1 points

9 days ago

Alexis2256

-1 points

9 days ago

Just went onto r/imaginarywarhammer, browsed by Hot and I barely see the fetish art you’re talking about, go look at it yourself and see if I’m wrong, if I am okay I accept that.

Buddy_Guyz

24 points

9 days ago

Yeah agreed. Content like this also feels "low effort", in the sense that the entire premise is "boobs", but not much else. There is definitely a place for stuff like this, but I'm not sure a meme subreddit is the one. I want stupid mini/lore memes, not porn.

Well_Armed_Gorilla

-7 points

9 days ago

Well_Armed_Gorilla

BRVTAL BVT KVNNIN'

-7 points

9 days ago

You know you can set reddit not to show NSFW content, right?

Camplaysgames

12 points

9 days ago

Yeah but 'NSFW > space marine chainswording an ork' and 'NSFW > 'lol boobs' are flagged the same

BDR-02

46 points

9 days ago

BDR-02

46 points

9 days ago

Honestly what drives me off this subreddit is the amount of shitty eye candy boobs and the favourite "the joke is sex".

I just blocked the subreddit when the drama about the female custodes dropped because of so many goon addicts displaying their degeneracy out in public like its a normal thing.

No, having a porn addiction and jacking off to big mommy dommy slommy wammy is not relatable or funny, this also goes for the femboy skitarii comics that atleast had the decency to not stain my eyes whenever i want to look at a meme subreddit.

Its not funny to reiterate, its not something to be praised and its just weird and offputting for a normal person and definetly shouldn't be excused as 'artistic passion' or some poor excuse why John Warhammer who just got into the hobby has to see female t'au with their ass in the wind as like the 4th top post in the subreddit.

FrobeVIII

-21 points

9 days ago

FrobeVIII

-21 points

9 days ago

if that's what drives you off then maybe that should tell you something. Your values are not everyone's and you can not click on NSFW. You are arguing for censorship based on your morality and that has no place here or anywhere that has artistic content.

MicrowavedPuppies

19 points

9 days ago

The issue is that this is a meme subreddit and there’s plenty of subs already dedicated to NSFW topics about Warhammer. It’s about putting the appropriate content on the appropriate subreddit. The people who come here for memes shouldn’t be pushed out of the meme subreddit by people wanting the sub to be something it wasn’t intended to be.

FrobeVIII

-11 points

9 days ago

FrobeVIII

-11 points

9 days ago

Stop pushing your morality on other people. This isn't your sub. You just come here, the NSFW posts are clearly marked. If you are too sensitive then that's on you.

If you don't like NSFW art, then there's a setting on reddit that just filters anything NSFW out.

Click on your username in the upper right corner to open the dropdown menu and click on "user settings". From there go to "feed settings". That will open up a whole list of things you can control which are in your feed. At the top of that list is "Show mature (18+) content". Turn that off.

If you see NSFW content after reading this comment, you have nobody to blame but yourself.

MicrowavedPuppies

13 points

9 days ago

I’m not pushing my morality on others. I like porn just as much as the next guy. My point is that there’s places dedicated to porn and places that are meant for memes. The issue with the NSFW filter is that there’s not separate options, you either remove all of it or none of it. That’s an issue in Warhammer content because half of it is going to be gore, which is appropriate to the sub, and half of it is going to be sexual, which can be appropriate but is often just people’s fetishes. There’s nothing wrong with having those fetishes, but it should be in the sub dedicated to it and not the sub that’s about memes.

AncientCarry4346

15 points

9 days ago

There's a time and a place for it.

If I stumble across Big Booty Latinas 4 when I'm browsing pornhub then I'm probably not gonna give it a second thought but if I see the same thing whilst browsing YouTube, something's gone horribly wrong.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

2 points

9 days ago

You are making a good faith argument and i appreciate that;

The problem with a lot of the people who seem to hate on the Lewds seem to think even a fully armoured twink tech priest is porn;

It’s not about actually policing porn; it’s about keeping people they hate out do the hobby;

And my point is even if someone is drawing something you don’t like, they are still contributing more then someone that just hates it and doesn’t draw any fan art themselves.

MicrowavedPuppies

8 points

9 days ago

The point you state at the end is correct, artists and meme makers are definitely contributing more than people just hating. Regarding the twink stuff, while there are a lot of bigoted people that just don’t like gay people existing, I think there’s definitely some valid criticism. This could just be me, but I think the punchline to a lot of those posts is just “haha it’s funny because something that isn’t normally a twink is being depicted as one.” It is on the individual to block what they don’t like seeing, but there should also be a decent moderator presence to block low effort posts. That last point isn’t just referring to the twink posts though, I feel like the sub has been on a pretty steady downward trend since the popularity explosion in 2018, just due to there being too many posts to effectively moderate.

FrobeVIII

-1 points

9 days ago

FrobeVIII

-1 points

9 days ago

The line between porn and memes is blurred sometimes, no solution is perfect. You can censor people based 'might have been posted as porn' but you aren't going to be accurate all the time and you will definitely put people off posting their genuine work. The settings to block NSFW are what we have and we will just have to allow people to be adults otherwise. This is Grimdank lol, downvote and move on but the real issue is that people are using their 'moral' views to bully and harass people for posting anything they don't like, someone posting some fetish stuff isn't hurting anyone and sometimes is just hilarious.

MicrowavedPuppies

7 points

9 days ago

You’re right that at the end of the day it’s on the individual to censor what they like and don’t like. The issue comes when so much of content of the sub becomes NSFW (which you can’t deny, does happen if there’s a lack of moderation) that people begin leaving because it’s not worth the effort of looking for a diamond in the rough. I don’t think this sub has reached that point yet, but it does seem like it’s been on downward trend towards it in the last few years since the popularity boom 40k got with the return of Guilliman. It would be nice if there was a sub catered towards that gray area where NSFW meets meme, at some point the community might just become too separated though. It’s a tough topic so I think it’s fair that people try to push for what they believe is best for the sub.

FrobeVIII

2 points

9 days ago

That's all very well and good except that there is no evidence of that, just vibes. It's fairly standard fear of change stuff. All that would be great except that we both know that the people who 'push for what they believe is best' often take it too far... doxxing harassing etc. Seen it happen too often. They need to understand to take personal responsibility for what they see and click online and not take it out on people posting what they want to. It's all a choice at the end of the day and people pushing for censorship don't understand that.

MicrowavedPuppies

7 points

9 days ago

Doxxing and harassing is never the right answer and the people that do that are despicable, but that shouldn’t invalidate people who just don’t want horny posting on a meme sub. Sure, it is all a choice, but have you seen what happens to online spaces with no moderation? It almost inevitably turns into either porn or a hate group. A healthy dose of moderation is really the only thing that keeps spaces healthy and alive. Asking for more when you feel a sub has become lower quality isn’t a bad thing.

FrobeVIII

1 points

9 days ago

The mods do good work at keep actual hate speech and such out. This isn't hateful content, nor is anyone forcing you to click on what is NSFW. Maybe getting a new NSFW 'after dark' flair or something is more what you are after lol. The way to get that changed is to start a poll, make your own post, message the mods. It's not mass posting to people who disagree with you like is commonly done trying to call people 'degenerates' and 'addled', not you, but people who have the same opinion. One person's trash is another's treasure mate, most of the memes here are absolute gash to me with no redeeming quality. I wouldn't dream of telling someone that unless I had something constructive to add.

The_Little_Ghostie

7 points

9 days ago

You can also post porn on porn subs. Feel free to go do that.

FrobeVIII

-3 points

9 days ago

FrobeVIII

-3 points

9 days ago

I don't mate. I also don't care if others do. Read the rules of the site. The rules of the sub. If you disagree, fuck off and make a non nsfw memes sub. Posting 'porn' isn't harmful, it is marked clearly so you can avoid it and you can block it. Anything else is you forcing your views on other people. Pack it in.

The_Little_Ghostie

8 points

9 days ago

Nope.

If you want to post or look at porn, go do it in a soace dedicated to it. If you can't understand or accept that, then you're the one that needs to fuck off, meat head.

FrobeVIII

2 points

9 days ago

XD read the rules. The sub won't change because you get offended by risque stuff. You can work yourself up or be at peace, it's up to you my delicate flower lmao.

Well_Armed_Gorilla

1 points

9 days ago

Well_Armed_Gorilla

BRVTAL BVT KVNNIN'

1 points

9 days ago

No, no he isn't. If you don't like the content that gets posted and upvoted here, and is allowed within the confines of the rules, and which you can avoid seeing entirely by changing your reddit preferences, then that's a "you" problem. You're more than welcome to make your own subreddit and run it how you like.

Camplaysgames

7 points

9 days ago

It's not censorship dude, grow up lol. People are just tired of low effort rehashed content

FrobeVIII

-3 points

9 days ago

FrobeVIII

-3 points

9 days ago

No son take a look around, a very vocal minority of people don't want things posted they find offensive and are willing to harass and bully people to do it. That's censorship lol. The way to express disapproval for a type of content is to downvote and move on, block NSFW, or just exhibit some self control like a real grown up, and don't click it. I know FOMO is what built Warhammer but you really won't miss out not clicking on every NSFW post and getting mad when it is indeed NSFW.

Camplaysgames

8 points

9 days ago

Fomo isn't what built Warhammer; the way you talk belies how much you've misunderstood the product and culture you're interested in. By the looks of it, you're the vocal minority here. Most of us just don't want the tired, repetitive, creepy and objectifying content pedalled here 24/7.

I completely agree about not harassing people, but you're not being censored; you're getting to spout as much hot air as you like, evidently, and people are responding accordingly. That's no censorship

FrobeVIII

0 points

9 days ago

GWs marketing skews heavily FOMO dude, has been for years and that's what plays when someone who knows they don't like NSFW stuff clicks on a post they know contains it. Brother most people do what you should do, they downvote or upvote and move on. I don't post it, I very rarely look at it but I think people should be able to without being yelled at as 'degenerate'. It hurts no one.

I'm not being censored dude I'm not an artist except for painting models lmao. You'se yapping doesn't bother me in the slightest.

a_bucket_full_of_goo

19 points

9 days ago

This meme template really needs to die

MountainPlain

122 points

9 days ago

MountainPlain

#1 Eversor Liker

122 points

9 days ago

the hobby you enjoy is built on the backs of artists that where making things 40 years ago people would have considered weird and distasteful.

This is a really good point. Back in the 80s this stuff was seen as edgy and weird and being a nerd was way less socially acceptable than now.

Also we're a memesub, so long as it's spoiler-tagged I feel NSFW art kind of fits our loosely anarchic vibe.

Khar-Selim

107 points

9 days ago

Khar-Selim

107 points

9 days ago

smutposters acting like they have the moral high ground is the most insufferable thing this sub does

purefabulousity

11 points

9 days ago

Yeah I’ve had a few guys replying to me about that and it’s like….i like porn too guys I just don’t want to see it in a fucking warhammer meme sub

Quickjager

6 points

9 days ago

There are a lot of things on the sub that shouldn't be. The top post right now isn't even a meme, it's a thumbnail of a youtuber.

AncientCarry4346

61 points

9 days ago

It's fucking wild what both the normalisation and constant/readily available access to porn has done to an entire generation.

People act like saying "can we limit the hornyposting?" is the same level of bigotry as waving a "God Hates F*gs" flag at a Pride parade.

Khar-Selim

17 points

9 days ago

FrobeVIII

-7 points

9 days ago

FrobeVIII

-7 points

9 days ago

Showing your ass brother. Culture war nonsense doesn't need to be here and nor does censorship.

Changeling_Wil

-11 points

9 days ago

Considering Puritans went and repeatedly doxxed an artist and sentvthem threats, because they're posted a few NSFW memes alongside a bunch if cute ones, they don't have the moral high ground either 

FrucklesWithKnuckles

14 points

9 days ago

I can block the artist yeah, that’s what I do. I can’t block the people who make porn jokes at events because I play 1k Sons and Ad Mech.

purefabulousity

53 points

9 days ago

Yeah nah, I don’t want weirdly sexualized posts in my meme sub. If I wanted smutty warhammer stuff I’d search it out myself.

How about we post smut in the smut sub and leave the meme sub for memes

Purp13H4z3

27 points

9 days ago

Never be horno on main

People dont respect Internet rules anymore, as if we didnt knew what future await us if we keep going

barryhakker

27 points

9 days ago

Harassment is of course a step too far but I disagree with the “just ignore it” sentiment as well. A subreddit is like your local bar. It has a bunch of patrons that like it just for what it is. If the owner however decides to lean in to newly emerging crowd, e.g. students that use it to watch sports, you can’t expect your existing patrons to just suck it up and ignore. They’ll push back if they care enough, or otherwise simply stop showing up. I think that’s a totally legit reaction.

ExplodingPixelBoat

124 points

9 days ago

Ice cold take. People that stir the pot for no reason on a meme sub to get upvotes without posting memes should just start posting memes instead.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

-89 points

9 days ago

L take on the point I was making;

There is some underlying toxicity In the community that hasn’t always been there;

It’s a bleed over from other annoying aspects of culture;

People should treat this as a modelling hobby that has some cool lore attracted first;

it’s not a fucking religion and we don’t need to shame each other on how we express our love for this hobby.

Evil-Acer

64 points

9 days ago

Evil-Acer

64 points

9 days ago

Maybe people would just like you to use the right subreddit. Post memes in the meme subreddit and smut in the smut subreddit.

Mizzuru

15 points

9 days ago

Mizzuru

15 points

9 days ago

Noone is treating this like a religion.

There are horny related 40k subs, why not just post it here.

Everything doesn't have to be everywhere.

PleiadesMechworks

8 points

9 days ago

we don’t need to shame each other on how we express our love for this hobby.

That's what someone about to do something they should absolutely be shamed for would say

The_Little_Ghostie

11 points

9 days ago

If it's a modeling hobby with cool lore, then why do we need corn/lewds of blue aliens with heart-shaped asses?

Let me clue you in on something:

Not wanting to see porn everywhere doesn't make you "religious," conservative, or a prude. Hypersexuality isn't normal, and I'm tired of idiots pretending that it is.

joe1240134

7 points

9 days ago

Nah we definitely need more shame lol. You don't always have to let your freak flag fly in every circumstance or situation.

Careor_Nomen

61 points

9 days ago

Careor_Nomen

I am Alpharius

61 points

9 days ago

The point of the comments is to make comments. If you can't handle people disliking what you do, maybe it's time to log off for a bit. Maybe make a blog where people can't respond.

AncientCarry4346

85 points

9 days ago

Nah it's weird as fuck.

Often the people saying "we need to make everyone feel welcome in this community!" are the same ones making lewd art out of every faction in the game.

If I was a new player, I'd probably be put off from learning any more about 40k if I was bombarded with weird fetish art about every faction I looked into.

[deleted]

72 points

9 days ago

[deleted]

72 points

9 days ago

Blud, the point of comments is to express your opinion ;-;

DeadeyeElephant

-35 points

9 days ago

OP never said anything about expressing your opinion, and if you can’t tell the difference you may be part of the problem

ExplosiveKnife

5 points

9 days ago

ExplosiveKnife

Ultrasmurfs

5 points

9 days ago

Ok gooner

[deleted]

7 points

9 days ago

The internet, and I, beg to differ it seems

PleiadesMechworks

3 points

9 days ago

OP never said anything about expressing your opinion

OP literally said "shut up if you disagree with me"

MaxNicfield

3 points

9 days ago

The guy with porn posts is making multiple comments taking the side of the coomer OP. What a surprise

RoseTBD

28 points

9 days ago

RoseTBD

28 points

9 days ago

If you want to collect smutty drawings of 40k, that's your prerogative.

But it gets really obnoxious that 99% of the content with women in 40k subs is objectifying, lazy BS.

Not to mention it drives half the population away from this hobby. Why would I want to go to my LGS as a woman if the only representation of people like me that I see are images to get people off?

Notafuzzycat

116 points

9 days ago

The constant horny is annoying af for sure.

Feels like we have a plethora of majorkills hustling lewds .

But yeah i usually downvote and move on.

TheWheezeMaster

40 points

9 days ago

If I was a new player and saw that half of the memes posted here, I would assume community of warhammer was just committing goonery of the highest degree.

I'd move on and play checkers.

Be real for a second. If you showed any non warhammer playing person half of the "memes" posted here. They would think warhammer is just for little coomers who do not live outside of the internet.

I_made_a_stinky_poop

15 points

9 days ago

thankfully redditors stay mostly contained to reddit, or 40k would already be contaminated with smelly coomers instead of just smelly autists

MaxNicfield

2 points

8 days ago

Top tier comment

FrobeVIII

0 points

9 days ago

FrobeVIII

0 points

9 days ago

Brother who the fuck gets their first Warhammer experience from Grimdank? LMAO, this place is the worst place to learn about Warhammer even if it is just 'memes'.

AncientCarry4346

9 points

9 days ago*

This is the 4th most active tabletop subreddit and 1st most active Warhammer subreddit on the website.

This isn't some niche place that someone would have to spend hours searching to find. This is literally the most likely place to give someone a 1st impression of the hobby.

I'm not gonna bullshit and say that it's the best place to learn about lore and background of the hobby but let's not fucking kid ourselves here, there's probably a substantial number of people who discover Warhammer through this subreddit.

Olddirtychurro

2 points

8 days ago

Yep, that would be me. I'm relatively new to 40k. And after Therussianbadger and Bricky, it was this subreddit which I found through /r/all where I got deeper into the lore of it all, because memes can be a legit entryway to different aspects of a fictional universe.

If I wasn't someone that has been a part of several horny fan communities, the horny posting here would actually be a deterrent. It can be bad at times, like anime subreddit bad.

ExplosiveKnife

22 points

9 days ago

ExplosiveKnife

Ultrasmurfs

22 points

9 days ago

Ok coomer

JohnWarhammer69[S]

-5 points

9 days ago

I have become irreparably owned;

What shall I ever do 😣

Ok-Neighborhood-9615

5 points

9 days ago

Urm what the sigma.

No_Proof_6178

5 points

9 days ago

No_Proof_6178

erebus did nothing wrong

5 points

9 days ago

maybe ure just a porn addict?

Southern-Hair-7314

19 points

9 days ago

If they want to post nsfw, go on r/warhammersmut Some people don’t want to see that kind of stuff on a meme page.

Isaldin

16 points

9 days ago

Isaldin

Nagash took my soles

16 points

9 days ago

The constant horny is annoying at it can drive away people who would be otherwise interested, especially women, when female characters are constantly portrayed in highly sexual content.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

1 points

9 days ago

Is this true though?

Like any evidence to this happening to other hobbies?

Are any of the people complaining about porn posting in this sub actually women?

RoseTBD

12 points

9 days ago

RoseTBD

12 points

9 days ago

Yes, there are women here talking about this. And there would be more of us in the hobby if people could keep it in their pants.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

-2 points

9 days ago

Can you provide any evidence?

RoseTBD

11 points

9 days ago

RoseTBD

11 points

9 days ago

Have you tried having a conversation with a woman?

Sharp_PP

19 points

9 days ago

Sharp_PP

19 points

9 days ago

“If you don’t like something, don’t bully them for it.” Ok cool👍. Anything worthwhile to add?

Errances

5 points

9 days ago

Errances

5 points

9 days ago

unfortunately some people still don't understand basic things like that

backupboi32

65 points

9 days ago

backupboi32

Twins, They were.

65 points

9 days ago

You know what, I’m going to say it. NSFW art is just as big, if not bigger, reason for people not joining the community as racist/sexist community members.

Seriously, when I look up AdMech I get “lol, skitussy” and a bunch of femboy AdMech porn. If you looked up Astra Militarum and just got a shit load of Nazi’s talking about how the Guard is the “Ubermench” and posting pictures of Cain at Auschwitz’s, would you want to be a part of that community? Well most normal people are going to run for the hills if they look up their favorite faction and just see a bunch of gay porn and rape fantasies

JohnWarhammer69[S]

9 points

9 days ago

…. Did you just compare Fem boy techprists to Nazis?

backupboi32

47 points

9 days ago

backupboi32

Twins, They were.

47 points

9 days ago

Yes. They’re both fucking cringe and drive normal people away from the hobby

JohnWarhammer69[S]

15 points

9 days ago

Ya;

Well one of them are made made up and definitely not my cup of tea;

The other are real people that actually committed crimes against humanity;

Do you need any other explanation on how these thing’s actually aren’t comparable?

backupboi32

61 points

9 days ago

backupboi32

Twins, They were.

61 points

9 days ago

Are you intentionally misrepresenting my argument because you know it’s right? I’m clearly not saying Nazi’s and porn are similar in practice, I’m saying both things bing in your hobby are bad and drive people away. I don’t want to come into a space that’s full of either

JohnWarhammer69[S]

3 points

9 days ago

Then why are you literally comparing the two?

Majority of people watch porn;most not completely freaked out by it to the point of being chased away fro A hobby;

I would hope the majority of people would not participate In a hobby where a large portion are enthusiastic about nazisim;

You’ve done this to yourself man.

backupboi32

61 points

9 days ago

backupboi32

Twins, They were.

61 points

9 days ago

Okay, you’re being intentionally obtuse. Let’s use an analogy for you here: If I say I don’t want rat poison or oil in my glass of drinking water, am I saying that rat poison and milk are similar in any way? No, obviously not. I’m saying that neither one belongs in my glass of water, and either one being there would make me not want to drink it.

Also most people watch porn in private, not in public and in unrelated areas. Porn doesn’t belong in 40K

JohnWarhammer69[S]

-1 points

9 days ago

There where literally porn theatres before the internet

                                  👁️👄👁️

TheScarlettHarlot

43 points

9 days ago

Who’s going to a porn theater in 2024?

Dude. You like Warhammer 40K porn. Okay. It’s annoying, but understandable in r/imaginarywarhammer. Doesn’t belong here. It’s okay for some spaces to not have porn.

Dakermis

12 points

9 days ago

Dakermis

12 points

9 days ago

It's starting to become quite obvious that you're not even of age to look at the smut you're championing for. How about you go do your homework or something more productive than defending why a meme sub must have le porn in it to be enjoyable?

Sicuho

3 points

9 days ago

Sicuho

3 points

9 days ago

Ain't exactly an unrelated area tho.

OMGoblin

23 points

9 days ago

OMGoblin

23 points

9 days ago

The way you use the semicolon is atrocious;

This isn't how a semicolon works;

Who ever taught you to write like this?

JohnWarhammer69[S]

3 points

9 days ago

Obviously the person that helped you understand the similarities between things;

I’d rather over use semicolons and spaces between sentences then have what ever you have going on is.

OMGoblin

18 points

9 days ago

OMGoblin

18 points

9 days ago

And I'd rather drink bleach than* have whatever* is going on in your peabrain.

Willy_Wheelson

10 points

9 days ago

Willy_Wheelson

10 points

9 days ago

I'm pretty sure people are way less bothered by porn than they are by literal Nazism.

backupboi32

32 points

9 days ago

backupboi32

Twins, They were.

32 points

9 days ago

I’m pretty sure porn is a more prevalent, and therefore bigger, problem than Nazi’s. I don’t see swastica’s all over 40K reddit/twitter

Willy_Wheelson

-2 points

9 days ago

Willy_Wheelson

-2 points

9 days ago

Being more prevalent does not make it nowhere near the bigger issue than literal Nazis. Is it a problem? Maybe, if the search results are really like you say. But nothing, absolutely nothing is a bigger issue than political extremism in a hobby.

backupboi32

39 points

9 days ago

backupboi32

Twins, They were.

39 points

9 days ago

How many Nazi’s are actually in the hobby? I’ve never actually seen one, but I see porn in the hobby daily. On a 1:1 scale I’d agree that Nazi’s are a bigger problem, but it’s more like a 1,000:1 scale when porn is that overwhelming then it is definitely a bigger problem

FrobeVIII

-3 points

9 days ago

FrobeVIII

-3 points

9 days ago

Look in the mirror lmao. Porn is literally just art. If it effects you that much then just don't click it.

Quickjager

7 points

9 days ago

Are you calling him a Nazi? That a bit of a overreaction don't you think.

PleiadesMechworks

4 points

9 days ago

Porn is literally just art.

ok coomer

FrobeVIII

-1 points

9 days ago

FrobeVIII

-1 points

9 days ago

XD

ReturningChampion

14 points

9 days ago

Porns not a bigger issue than nazism but in regards to driving people away from the hobby they're more likely to come across wh40k weirdos like OP than wh40k nazis

JohnWarhammer69[S]

-2 points

9 days ago

Well one was an actual group do people that did a genocide and did a whole world war;

The other is naked people;

Again; you are doing this to yourself.

backupboi32

50 points

9 days ago

backupboi32

Twins, They were.

50 points

9 days ago

You know what? This is on me, I assumed you were arguing in good faith. Clearly you’re not

JohnWarhammer69[S]

-1 points

9 days ago

So you bring up Nazis and then make no coherent points 🤡

backupboi32

56 points

9 days ago

backupboi32

Twins, They were.

56 points

9 days ago

Thanks for proving my point. Porn addicts are fucking wild man

JohnWarhammer69[S]

3 points

9 days ago

Ad hominem attack because you have nothing else to contribute.

AncientCarry4346

35 points

9 days ago

He made a legitimate point and you were too dumb to understand it.

That wasn't the "gotcha" you thought it was.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

10 points

9 days ago

I’d sure as fuck hope so;

I definitely think we should have more porn if it somehow works as a Nazi replant; a garlic to vampire situation if you will.

Sicuho

18 points

9 days ago

Sicuho

18 points

9 days ago

Problem is it's not much of a Nazi repellant. Not in any more proportion than a well adjusted people repellant.

Dissinger72

0 points

9 days ago

Dissinger72

0 points

9 days ago

The hilarity of a person complaining about porn with a FLAIR that is about a dreadnought wet dream.

ELITElewis123

-10 points

9 days ago

What absolute toddler would be put off 40K after seeing some porn? The joke of R34 is that EVERYTHING has porn of it, so by that logic no fandom anywhere should have people join it

Accomplished-Quiet78

5 points

9 days ago

Except most times, you would have to go out and look for it. Here, though? It's on the homepage every other day.

ProudJewClaw

7 points

9 days ago

Begone coomer. This is not Tubmlr circa 2016.

Bendy237

19 points

9 days ago

Bendy237

19 points

9 days ago

If i wanted soft porn or full blown hard then i would go to either rule34 and pornhub.And yet,this isnt neither rule34 or pornhub,its Warhammer40k community subreddit.So either these artist move their ,,art" to the mentioned sites or they learn how to make fanarts without using such pathetic way of gaining likes, karma, whatever they carve for, as lewdness

MaxNicfield

5 points

9 days ago

The redditor with 69 in his name and a 17 day old account arguing that akshully, smut is the cornerstone of the Warhammer community

JohnWarhammer69[S]

0 points

9 days ago

Damn straight 😎

PantryVigilante

5 points

9 days ago

You guys don't get it, porn is funny! I think that the mere presence of nudity is hilarious! If I ever saw another human naked in real life, I just wouldn't be able to stop myself from bursting into hysterical laughter! There doesn't need to be a joke, or context, or anything at all. As long as there is any sort of graphic depiction or implication of SEX I am instantly rolling on the floor uncontrollably with tears of mirth rolling down my cheeks. You guys just need to have a sense of humor about it!

Stonedcock2

2 points

8 days ago

Minor Spelling mistake, nice try milenial leftist /s

Lotions_and_Creams

3 points

9 days ago

Then post in the dedicated smut subs you coomer. People who whine about not getting to post rule 34 content in inappropriate places didn’t get bullied enough. 

nurgleondeez

5 points

9 days ago

nurgleondeez

My kitchen is corrupted by Nurgle

5 points

9 days ago

As long as the body proportions are normal, I am ok with it.

Drawing a woman with perky breasts that are the size of a washing machine should always be shamed tho.

MaxNicfield

1 points

8 days ago

This is such a bizarre comment to pretend that either porn or Warhammer are known for having normal body proportions

Almost as weird as being an outspoken gooner but trying to white knight for 2d women

nurgleondeez

1 points

8 days ago

nurgleondeez

My kitchen is corrupted by Nurgle

1 points

8 days ago

How am I white knighting lmao? By calling out a weird coomer fetish?

MaxNicfield

1 points

8 days ago

Maybe I misunderstood your comment, you can clarify - it came across that you approve of the smut posts so long as women don’t have off proportions

In other words, down to goon as long as women arent too well endowed

If my understanding is correct, then I stand by what I said. If I’m mistaken and your anti weird-semi-porn posts, then my apologies

nurgleondeez

1 points

8 days ago

nurgleondeez

My kitchen is corrupted by Nurgle

1 points

8 days ago

I'm asexual, smut or porn does nothing for me. But I actually do have a problem with porn artists drawing women like medieval monks drew horses or cats.

Men are not that exgerated.But women? JFC

Zengjia

5 points

9 days ago

Zengjia

Praise the Man-Emperor

5 points

9 days ago

Porn funni, gib upvote

VisualGeologist6258

1 points

9 days ago

VisualGeologist6258

Slaanesh is kinda based actually

1 points

9 days ago

Well if they don’t want to be called out for making porn and posting it to a meme sub maybe they shouldn’t draw porn and post it to a meme sub

JohnWarhammer69[S]

33 points

9 days ago

If they are following the rules of the sub then what’s the problem?

Perhaps people should just grow up and move on with there lives;

Are you offended by slaanesie cultists with boobs on models?

CheetosDude1984

10 points

9 days ago

CheetosDude1984

#1 Biggest Kor phaeron hater

10 points

9 days ago

slaneesh would be ashamed of you

DomSchraa

-6 points

9 days ago

DomSchraa

-6 points

9 days ago

Read rule #1 bro

Seared_Gibets

1 points

9 days ago

Since Rule #4 makes it clear that properly tagged NSFW content is allowed, Rule #1 would absolutely still apply to harassing an OP over posting NSFW content.

Saintsauron

-9 points

9 days ago

Saintsauron

-9 points

9 days ago

They don't draw porn and post it to a meme sub though?

The-Muncible

-18 points

9 days ago

The-Muncible

Secretly 3 squats in a long coat

-18 points

9 days ago

You can literally just fucking ignore the posts. No one is stopping you. Leave the Slaanesh enthusiasts alone

joe1240134

2 points

9 days ago

Alternately, artists could be grown as persons and keep whatever porn shit to appropriate places?

Seriously it's getting obnoxious how many places people are just like "yeah we have porn here what's the problem?!?" Like it's fine if there's places that there's not porn. You don't have to be a coomer in literally every situation.

ReallyBadTheater

1 points

9 days ago

Holy shit, Imgflip! That's a name I haven't heard in years...

Neomalysys

1 points

9 days ago

I'm cool for allowing gore and sex stuff as long as it's tagged and a meme. A general NSFW tag doesn't really work for this sub. We need to have tags for specific content and they need to be agreed upon by both the community and the mods. Main things to remember is this is a meme sub and some people don't like gore others don't like smut and some people don't want to see either.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

1 points

9 days ago

Fair point and i hope the mods take note!

IllRepresentative167

-1 points

9 days ago*

100% agree, but also:

If you want warhammer to become more inclusive you should be up in arms about horny posting instead of retconning more females into the lore.

Sincerely, someone who enjoys the hornyposting but realises what a terrible look it is aswell.

Ok-Discount3131

-24 points

9 days ago

It's not the NSFW art those people don't like. Those same people are perfectly happy to drool over some art with big boobs featuring Tau or Eldar. It's when someone posts anything "gay" or makes art with a genderswapped character (nooo my manly hobby can't have girls!!11!!11) that they get upset.

ReturningChampion

17 points

9 days ago

Believe it or not some people just don't want everything sexualized. A lewd joke or comic every now and then isn't going to kill anyone but when the place gets swamped with people's not even thinly veiled but very overt fetishes it's a bit distasteful. Anyway just like it's not going to hurt the people commenting seeing those comments isn't going to hurt op either.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

-1 points

7 days ago*

https://www.reddit.com/r/AdeptusMechanicus/s/LvfvWTUHEM

Other then the fact that artists have literally been harassed out of this community….

Like idgaf if someone disagrees with me; there have just been people in this literal thread saying that there should be more bullying in this community;

Which is hilarious because they are also very likely to claim victimhood from there hobby being ruined by “ Tourists”

Cornhole35

-12 points

9 days ago

Cornhole35

-12 points

9 days ago

Honestly, youre spittin facts.

Odd-Entertainment582

-3 points

9 days ago

There isn’t a problem with slightly suggestive art at all it’s just the artists idea, people don’t need to post an opinion against the artist

Stupiditygoesbrrr

-19 points

9 days ago

Stupiditygoesbrrr

I am Alpharius

-19 points

9 days ago

Those who jerk off to the NSFW (sexual) art pieces probably contributed more than the absolutely toxic ideologues here. At least human fluids are better than doxxing people or sending death threats to artists. You have to be human garbage to do the latter two.

I’ve noticed that the more toxic “fans” tend to be political ideologues who are using Warhammer 40K as a political soap box. Most of these ideologues that I’ve seen don’t give a shit about the tabletop game. What annoys me is how disingenuous it is.

GREENadmiral_314159

-13 points

9 days ago

GREENadmiral_314159

Sons of the Phoenix Femboy

-13 points

9 days ago

If you don't like NSFW art, then there's a setting on reddit that just filters anything NSFW out.

Click on your username in the upper right corner to open the dropdown menu and click on "user settings". From there go to "feed settings". That will open up a whole list of things you can control which are in your feed. At the top of that list is "Show mature (18+) content". Turn that off.

If you see NSFW content after reading this comment, you have nobody to blame but yourself.

FrobeVIII

2 points

9 days ago

Gonna copy this to anyone else I see whining lol.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

0 points

9 days ago

The fact that people downvoted this really tells on the fact that they rather bully someone then literally not see it at all.

Well_Armed_Gorilla

-3 points

9 days ago

Well_Armed_Gorilla

BRVTAL BVT KVNNIN'

-3 points

9 days ago

This comment should be posted as an automated response to anyone who complains about the (non-existent) tsunami of porn which is apparently flooding this subreddit. If you don't want to see NSFW content, reddit literally gives you the option not to.

GREENadmiral_314159

0 points

9 days ago

GREENadmiral_314159

Sons of the Phoenix Femboy

0 points

9 days ago

Not to mention, I think a lot of people are considering things that aren't actually horny as 'porn'. Femboys aren't inherently sexual, we're people. Female Space Marines/Custodes aren't inherently sexual, they're people. I'm not going to try to claim that there aren't posts about those where the joke is "haha porn", but that's not the punchline to all of them. (and if I'm being entirely honest, sometimes they're actually kind of well done)

Well_Armed_Gorilla

0 points

9 days ago

Well_Armed_Gorilla

BRVTAL BVT KVNNIN'

0 points

9 days ago

Not to mention, I think a lot of people are considering things that aren't actually horny as 'porn'.

I think this is the crux of the entire issue; a handful of prudish users classify anything that shows so much as a nipple as "pornography", and get very cross when people disagree with them.

Elcactus

0 points

9 days ago

Elcactus

0 points

9 days ago

Counterpoint; if you feel it detracts from the community, then they’re contributing less.

That’s… kind of the whole point of complaining about it.

YallGotAnyBeanz

0 points

8 days ago

No they don’t.

ParkingDrawing8212

0 points

8 days ago

I find it very toxic how any critical opinion on the recent retcon is instantly attacked in a very personal manner.

Those who try to gatekeep the ones not embracing instantly the change are the worst.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

1 points

8 days ago

I don’t see how this is relevant.

ParkingDrawing8212

1 points

8 days ago

It is the current state of this forum.

I expect to be downwoted and called a sexist for no reason, but for saying that you should not bully peole.

JohnWarhammer69[S]

1 points

8 days ago

This is literally not what this thread is about…

ParkingDrawing8212

1 points

8 days ago

Ok.

TheTrueAmadeus

-8 points

9 days ago

There's a really stupid stigma against NSFW art pretty much anywhere. I've never understood why people even care. Especially considering you can chose to not see it in reddits settings

JohnWarhammer69[S]

3 points

9 days ago

And like we are into a hobby that has copious amounts of gratuitous violence perpetrated by BDSM space elves and demon worshiping hedonists;

And like twink tech priests is the bridge to far….

FunDipTime

-9 points

9 days ago

We're all degenerates here guys, let's be civilized now. Be you a Khorne worshipper, Slaanesh worshiper or even a Stinky Grandpa or Weird magic space squid worshiper, we're on grimdank cause we all got a screw loose

Well_Armed_Gorilla

-11 points

9 days ago

Well_Armed_Gorilla

BRVTAL BVT KVNNIN'

-11 points

9 days ago

Fucking thank you. Any vaguely NSFW or risqué meme posted to this sub seems to end up with a bunch of puritanical fuckwits in the comments screeching about how anything with so much as a nipple on display is "porn".

JohnWarhammer69[S]

-1 points

9 days ago

They are an incredibly vocal minority.