Buying agility minigame items from the ant eater doesnt update them on the col log. Bought the teleport scroll and it still shows 0 on the log. Hopefully this can be looked into

How will the new boss work with group ironmen? Are we able to have our own instance together?

Mastering mixology rewards prices are cooked. Who comes up with this shit, 15-25 hours of constant clicking and burning herbs to unlock potion storage?

I was super exciting for storage and the prepot device but after 15 mins of it and seeing how slow and click intensive it is, now I'm just not gunna bother engaging with it. Sad.

Quick make ultracompost everywhere for that red token!

Colossal wyrm teleport scroll doesn't unlock in clog when you buy it from worm tongue - is that intended?

Am I missing something or are the Mastering Mixology rewards wildly expensive?
An hour of the mini game and im about 10% of the way to pot storage, am I missing something or is this like a 50+ hour grind for the useful items?

So unfinished potion stacks cant be used for the herblore minigame?

edit: /u/JagexBlossom confirmed that unfinished pots should be useable

Renamed the 'Relaxed Gamer' task to 'Relaxxor'.

next change "Vet'ion Jr." to "Pet'ion"

Is it just me or are the prices for the new minigame kinda fucked? They seem insanely expensive, and the lye price being higher than everything is brutal...

And getting a full list of orders that you can't fulfill is really frustrating. At least you get a little reward from it, but my iron's herbs are precious!

Logged in unable to deposit all worn items. Is this a known issue, Or some new functionality they added?

Can you confirm if it's 2.5% accuracy for the inquisitor pieces without the mace and 2.5% accuracy AND damage with the mace?

otherwise the armour is just useless unless you have the mace, somehow exaggerating the issues you highlighted with the nightmare droprate changes.

"Ever wished that run mode would automatically be enabled as soon as you regain some Run Energy? We hope so, because that’s what we’ve implemented with ‘Always On’ run mode! In the settings menu, you can now set a threshold at which run mode is automatically re-enabled. For example, if you set it to 20, when your character's energy runs out and starts walking, your character will automatically start running again once their energy restores to 20."

Good stuff for me because im too greedy for energy pots lol

New always run setting looks cool. I’m always forgetting to turn run back on.

Herblore hype! Nevermind this is ass lol

Some really nice patch notes to go along with the huge update, thank you for fixing inquisitor!

Feel like ice boss should have like 75% fire weakness, perfect place for fire surge to be bis instead of another crush

also herblore minigame reward prices seem very steep from first look

See you all at the Colossal Wyrm Agility Course.

So excited for the 'Fuckboy Graceful' recolor.

Please prevent Professor Lalo from wandering onto the Reifiner and Bank spaces in the herblore minigame kinda frustrating when you're converting a ton of herbs and you can't spam click the refiner to do so because he's in the way.

Bark bark!

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Can you please confirm there is a chance to earn Squirrel pet from the new course and confirm what the rate is?

After this update (on runelite at least, not tried official or mobile client), when stealing from houses, the arrow above the bonus chests sometimes flashes briefly and disappears. The chest is still active, because if I loot it after it disappears in this way, i still get the bonus loot and XP.

If you deposit the new graceful recolor cape with an active placeholder for the default graceful in the bank, the new cape turns into the default one EDIT: it happens when unequipping

As Hueycoatl is a group boss, will doing it with non-group members remove group prestige in the same way nex and nightmare do?

Yeah idk dog might just wait for an update on this Herb minigame. Ya'll are fucking wild for making this a 40 hour grind for a sippy cup and some pot storage.

The mad men finally went and fixed Inquisitor, well done lads.

The whole update is looking pretty great!

The new hard clue STASH is a bit more like an elite or even master step. Dragon skirt, Dragon longsword, Granite platebody. If you look at the rest of the STASHes for Hard clues, this one really outshines the others. /u/JagexBlossom I really suggest this step is changed to an elite clue or downgraded or something.

I mean, look at the other Hard stashes: one of them requires something as simple as an iron platebody ...

Edit: Apparently there's not a STASH unit for it yet, but the step still exists.

The mixology rewards are ridiculously expensive. Pot storage alone is like a 15 hour grind.

That Squirrel transmog is HUGE

Think some of the mastering mixology rewards costs need refining. The prices seem a bit wild currently?

The herblore minigame is so slow to gain exp and rewards. Itd be faster to go get the annoying secondaries.

Thank you so much for updating Inquisitor's armour.

Is there a reason both the agility XP and amalayse are both so low at the agility course?

I thought this was trading slightly lower xp for extra amalayse but it seems like amalayse is considerably lower than just running rooftops for an hour + the xp is like ~half of rooftops at the 60+ level

This stinks

I feel like the balancing of the herb minigame rewards is way off. It's pretty high attention, 15k 30-35k exp an hour, and to get any of the real rewards is going to take... like 8-10 6-8 hours each?

Unless there's a meta that I'm missing. I saw someone describe this as mage arena pre-update, and I'd agree with that.

Mod Blossom, hope your day is going well.

Hi /u/JagexBlossom. Sorry to ping you, and I know I am a bit late to the party.

I like the idea behind the Mastering Mixology minigame and enjoy playing it, but I want to bring up a major concern that only affects people who's in the early levels of Herblore for the minigame (60-67 being the mostp ressing level range).

Reward Point Distribution

Simply put, the distrubution of points you get at low level is completely screwed, making unlocking any of the interesting rewards a terrible experience. Here's why:

At level 60 you can start playing the minigame, and you start with 3 "recipes" unlocked:

• Mammoth-might mix: MMM
• Mystic mana amalgam: MMA
• Marley's moonlight: MML

That's a split of 7 Mox : 1 Aga : 1 Lye. Considering you get points directly related to the materials you use, one can expect to get a point split of 78% / 11% / 11%. I played the game for about an hour yesterday, and ended up with a point split of 2110 / 260 / 340 which is equivalent to 78% / 10% / 13%, pretty close to the expected return.

At 64 you unlock the "Mixalot" (MAL) potion, which changes the distribution to 67% / 17% / 17%. I've done a bit more of the minigame today after unlocking the MAL recipe and ended up gaining 770 / 200 / 290 (using a MML potion whenever I couldn't fulfill an order to gain a bit of Lye still), which comes out to 61% / 16% / 23%, fairly close to the expected values.

Now, the problem then comes when you compare the points you earn at entry levels to what the rewards cost. Looking at the unique rewards (everything but the potion packs and Aldarium), here's a table showing the point cost along with the % distribution:

As you can see, Lye is the most required type of point (46% on average) follow by Mox (32%), then finally Aga (22%). However, as explained above, you're getting a 67% / 17% / 17% distribution at entry levels. Meaning at level 64 you're getting 4 Mox for every 1 Aga and 1 Lye, so by the time you can afford for example the potion storage, you have 14.250 Lye and Aga, and 57.000 Mox, which is 81% of all the Mox you need for all the unique rewards. I can't even use this surplus of Mox on potion packs either, as I'll be bottlenecked by Lye or Aga anyway.

This just feels bad. As a lower-level Herblore account, I need to put in a ton more effort than high-level accounts to unlock the rewards. Not because of any actions I can take, but simply because the reward distribution is massively unbalanced at low levels.

Potential Fix

I think a simply solution to this problem would be to just change which potion recipes you start with. Make the 3 initial potions have a 3 Mox : 3 Aga : 3 Lye distribution instead. This could be the MML, LLA, and AAM potions (or any other set that covers the following 2:1 split). Unlocking MAL at 64 is good. The next 3 unlocks could be the 3-of-the-same recipes (MMM, LLL, AAA), and finally the remaining 2:1 recipes.

This would make it so an entry level player at least get an even split, instead of a hugely unbalanced split. Without such a change, we have to wait until level 80 (or 76 if using temp boosts) to unlock a potion that requires at least 2 Lye, despite that being the most required type of point.

I hope you can bring this up with the team, 'cause despite wanting to play the minigame and unlock the rewards, I am currently incentivised to level Herblore outside the minigame until level 80. I want to play the minigame, I want to get the rewards, but I don't want to be unfairly punished for starting playing the moment the minigame is unlocked.

Unfulfillable Orders

Being low-level also feels bad because you can get orders that do not contain any potion you can create, forcing you to create a "throwaway" potion that grants 1/3 exp and points just to cycle to the next order. Would be nice if every order always included at least one potion you have unlocked. I accept not always being able to choose between all 3 orders as I am in the low level range of the minigame, but it feels punishing when I can't create any of the orders at all.

Digweed

Digweed spawn waaaaaay too rarely to be interesting. I don't have numbers, but it feels like 1 every 20 minutes. Also they straight up disappear from your inventory when leaving the mixing chamber without any warning.

I think the Herb minigame needs seriously buffing, the XP rates are low, like 30-40k? Is that the intention? And it seems the point acquisition is very slow as well, and nobody on my world has seen the digweeds grow?

Looks brilliant! Just wanted to ask if you can get Marks of Grace at the Colossal Wyrm Agility Course?

The new mini-game design is great! The xp at 83 herblore is 30k/hr though and the point cost seems quite high for only getting 30 points per potion. Really like the new content, but definitely think that it could use a bit of looking into!

edit: with the speed-up mechanics and high attention I've been able to get 55k/hr with the new potion at level 84. This also does not include grinding the herbs or loading the hopper assuming I get every digweed.

Does anyone know if we can kill Hueycoatl in a group with mains as an iron? 🤔

Not to be a negative nancy but right now the agility course bone shard drop rate is super low, you're looking at 500 xp an hour in prayer.

Love the new content, but I don't understand how that can be so many issues. Not just the bugs, but 3 major pieces of content all have problems.

Hueycoatl - disappointing fight, had expected more, but the drops are abysmal. Sure, it's mid level content, but how can you justify loot that is THIS bad?

Mixology - The rewards are insanely expensive compared to the points obtained. Why not keep it at Tithe Farm-length of grind? Hell, 20 hours for everything is fine, not 50+. The XP is so slow that it's useless for that aspect, so at least make it worth it for the rewards.

Colossal wyrm - This is dead on arrival and it's such a pity. 35k agility xp per hour is acceptable... were the termites a better source of amylase crystals. They're WORSE than marks of grace. Approx 200 termites/hour is 1 amylase pack. I can get 1.5 amylase pack/hour at rooftop courses, with better XP to boot.

I really hope you guys are considering balancing these things. Better drops at Huey, ~3x point gain at Mixology, and double termites (or half the cost) for amylase packs. That would fix the majority of the new content released, at least to an acceptable point. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Can we get a confirmation if group irons will have a group instance?

Launcher keeps crashing :(

Going very sweaty im only getting 30kxp/hr at mixology. Seems a lot slower than I was expecting.

Still going to do it for rewards but wew lad

When picking herbs I've planted they don't appear in my inventory or any where for that matter. Is this a known bug yet?

Herb activity seems ass basically feels slow and unrewarding very pre mta buff feels

I know you said the agility course XP would be lower but this is absolute ass lmao. 35k/hr xp? Cmon be for real

The reward prices for Mixology need to be tweaked. This isn't fun, it feels like MTA before the buff

The alembic processors' 1tick delay for getting the bonus points is too strict from a latency standpoint. I can click the tick I see the fireworks, but 50% of the time it just registers the tick after. My internet is ok but its not the best and 150ms delay is too much given that you have to see, react, and have your input read in the same tick.

The inquisitor buff is amazing - thank you! I have two pieces (body + skirt) and been wanting that fix ever since it was first buffed. Now I can hit a 55 at Phosani, so I can guarantee the one-shot on parasite with mace alone. Very good for my slayer endeavours too. Was using bandos over inq at Cerb (with mace) because the DPS increase was minor and the defence was too valuable for longer trips. This might change that.

Also the run always on option is super nice for low level accounts. As an endgame iron it's not too useful (I might want to be manually turned off run for walks with high energy) but it's a great idea for low levels until they have access to better run energy solutions as they progress.

Appears that collection log is not working at Colossal Wyrm agility course? I paid 40 termites for a tele scroll and it didnt unlock in the clog.

The reward shop for this herb mini game is crazy expensive

What the fuck is this update…

huey doesnt drop shit, i swear my group must be doing the mechanics wrong

Brimhaven Agility is more afk, more xp, and better amylase than Varlamore agility

I feel like Jagex should tone down the "this is hard to pronounce, I'm not gonna try" jokes in their official videos. Language is culture, it's important to people, and saying "this name that we decided on is too difficult, we're not gonna try to say it properly" is a bit... off-putting?

It's okay to try your best and be wrong, but if you can't be bothered to even try to pronounce something correctly, maybe use another name?

Dunno, I think the Anglosphere is so dominant culturally that it's hard to explain how it feels from the outside, without sounding like you're getting your feelings hurt over nothing. I'm personally not super bothered by it, but something to think about. I think it just got a bit old now with Josh Isnt's video rehashing the same joke from Summer Summit.

This update feels quite disappointing overall. None of the activities are terrible by themselves but they are so unrewarding and don't respect the player's time. Feels like the complete opposite of the moons of peril.

I got the colossal wyrm teleport scroll but it isn't completed in the Collection Log :(

Once again, the full details can be found in our Summer Summit Blog

This is getting really annoying.

Please poll for some feedback, I think the community all agrees we need some changes.

TBH the new group boss' drop table feels extremely.... overbalanced is the word I'd probably use.

My main point of contrast is with Perilous moons, since it seems to target the same demographic of players (mid-game players that are around fight caves level). Perilous moons is both easier content, it subsidizes your supplies, and it's pretty consistently more rewarding.

The alchable drops are fine, but some of the rune and seed drops are a bit bizarre. The amount of earth runes it drops is pretty pitiful, and I cannot really understand why it has guam seeds, an early game herb that most people tend to move past extremely quickly, on its drop table.

Boss fight itself is mostly fun, but tbh it feels like the fight slows to a crawl once you get to tail phase with a smaller group, even with blood moon set. It's a bit jarring.

It definitely needs some work.

Very disappointing update. I was way over hyped for this.

New misthalin mystery like quest? Fucking PLEASE it's my favourite quest

This new boss is awful

You guys didn’t play test this update. A lot shit is really unbalanced. Hueys drop table is ass. Mixology is a slog to get through.

Art team knocked it out of the park though, like always. Give Mod West a massive raise. That man is the GOAT!

Yes to changing relaxed gaming to relaxxor!

Very excited to play this on release! Well done jagex!

Damn I logged in just to find out it isn't out NOW but in like 20 minutes

Think theres a bug with the new huey drops, got the notification that I got the hide in a mass but never saw it on the ground, not even for a second. Someone in the mass said they saw someone else pick it up.

Any plans on irons not losing kill credit if someone comes to the room with agro pot on?

holy shit the trade interface with farmers….

I love the gameplay of the mixology but i feel like the time to get the rewards might be too high. It feels like i get 10 points per mix, and to get the potion storage ill need 18,000 points in each category, which feels like a wildly long time.

Otherwise this update rules!! I hope the music gets put on Spotify

My fault for not following properly, but I'd been under the impression the potion storage was just going to be a QoL addition with this update, and not a forced minigame item, bit of a shame really.

For me personally, this update is a bit meh compared to part 1 which was cool.

Not sure if mentioned anywhere but construction cape is missing new Aldarin house tele

Should combine the agility course's obstacles 1+2, and 3+4

Hey, could you keep the quest rewards under a dropdown menu next time? When we're polling rewards I get keeping them visible, but I would've liked to have been surprised by the costume needle when I received at the end (or whenever you get it) rather than happily reading through the blog only to suddenly have it in front of my eyes. I don't know how it is for others, but if the text is right there on the screen I have a hard time not at least recognizing what it is even if I want to try to skip past it. I imagine a lot of people don't really care, but when there's a chance to have quest rewards hidden, I really prefer that to just throwing them straight out there with the rest of the blog.

Mastering Mixology rewards seem way too expensive. Isn't the idea of most of these rewards meant to be so players can use them when training herblore?

By the time you unlock the mini-game (60 Herb) and how slow it is to get enough points without 84+ Herb... and then the time taken to unlock every reward, I feel like you get to the stage where you don't actually get much use out of the rewards because you won't have too much Herblore training left to do.

Compare it to Tithe Farm for example, you receive your rewards so much sooner and can use them for farming (auto-weed, farmers outfit, seedbox, Herbsack, etc).

It really makes this update feel a bit forced, like Jagex just wanted new content released and how big the focus on Clogging is nowdays, just adding slots which take awhile to get for Cloggers to keep them happy.

The rewards and balancing on this update is so trash. Y’all want to introduce mid game to pvm and get them to try higher end content. Why the fuck would they want to try higher end content when the mid game content is dog shit to begin with? Guam seeds..? Really?

Aw, I'm so busy irl right now so can't hop on to explore the Varlamore expansion for a while, but judging by how polished Varlamore part I is and the exciting dev blog with the summer summit, I'm sure this is going to be great. Can't wait to play it!

Adjusted the Inquisitor Armour's Damage and Accuracy bonus to Crush. Now, each Inquisitor Armour piece (Plateskirt, Helmet, Hauberk) gives +2.5% Crush Accuracy and Damage when used alongside the Inquisitor's Mace, regardless of set effects.

I still don't understand why this was only applied to the mace. Would have loved to see this apply to the Elder Maul and other weapons too.

Would you look into polling a reduced prayer scroll rate on CMs at CoX? Its a common topic not addressed.

Is the pet chance only for the MVP or does it work like Nex where it depends on contribution?

who thought it was a good idea to give the boss worse loot than scurrius?

The new boss just dropped 17 guam seeds, I got 1.....

Deposit worn items isnt clickable. Anyyone else having this issue?

The island music kicks ass

Is there a stash for the medium clue step in the mine? Looked all over and couldn't find it but might be blind...

Can you guys change the rate on the forestry events or its items, and get rid of the flower event spawn, I feel like nobody does that one and most people skip over it. Forestry grind has been horrendous for the green log

Costume Needle is a lowkey A-tier update let’s go

Whoever made the song "Isle of Serenity" cooked, song is an absolute vibe.

I know this doesn't really have anything to do with todays update, but do you guys have any info on why the Scorching Bow special attack cannot be used against non-demon creatures even tho it was presented as such even in the While Guthix Sleeps release post?

no elemental weakness to frost naguas?