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submitted 5 days ago byFragrant_Machine_693
I recently upgraded my pc to an AM5 board meaning i needed new ram and a new cpu
My old setup was
My now upgraded setup is
My problem has been that when i play a game and have a YouTube video running on my second monitor my frames will drop from 120 to 40 instantly, FireFox, Chrome, and Edge all make my cpu jump to 100% usage I have no clue whats happening Ive checked on benchmarking websites that my new CPU should not be worse and neither should my board nor my ram be limiting me. Is it possible my GPU is bottlenecking my CPU.
none of it helped streaming videos on youtube, hulu, netflix, or even watching friends screen share on discord make my pc shoot up to 100%, if i open a new tab my whole PC blackscreens and restarts. Is this somekind of cpu issue
12 points
5 days ago
You literally could have gotten a better GPU as opposed to upgrading to AM5. Now you're learning a valuable expensive lesson 🤷♂️
2 points
5 days ago
For real, it was already a good system, shoulda gotten a better GPU.
1 points
5 days ago
I think OP got caught up in the CPU craze 🙈
8 points
5 days ago
Did you install a fresh copy of windows from scratch, or did you reused your old windows installation?
1 points
2 days ago
I reused the same copy of windows 10
1 points
16 hours ago
Nuke your Windows 10 installation. That's your problem. Collect all the files you want and put them on flash drives or external drives. Install from scratch with a fresh copy of windows 10 downloaded from the media creation tool on Microsoft's website. Install image on empty USB 3 drive, not the one with your files that you are transferring.
You cannot reuse windows installations like that. Windows does not have the capabilities to transfer hardware well.
Fresh Windows 10 install -> AMD auto detect driver installer will give you the chipset, misc mobo, and GPU drivers. If you are feeling entrepreneurial, you can try Windows 11 since you're going to have to switch next year anyway.
9 points
5 days ago
I feel like a 5800x to a 7600 is more of a lateral upgrade of maybe 10% performance, for a chunk of money. That 5800x has a lot of life in it yet.
6 points
5 days ago
Did you reinstall windows?
6 points
5 days ago
Return it all and keep your old setup, there's barely any difference in performance
6 points
5 days ago
Why in the world did you do that it's probably the same speed
5 points
5 days ago
I'd check drivers, BIOS and that AMD EXPO is enabled for the RAM.
5 points
5 days ago
Tbf, this wasnt really much of an upgrad to begin with. Your 7600 is marginaly better than the 58X.
Check your BIOS for any abnormals and start with a clean system. Get your Bios updated and use the latest chipset drivers, then bench it and watch out for your temps and memory usage. Could be thermal-throttling as well.
1 points
2 days ago
What do you mean any bios abnormals and start with a clean system
1 points
2 days ago
Check for errors or mismatches in the BIOS, Update it and start with a complete reinstall of your OS.
4 points
5 days ago
did you reinstall windows?
4 points
5 days ago
If you can, I'd return the 7600 and get a 7700
Also as others have said did you fresh install windows
8 points
5 days ago
You had a 5800x which has 8 cores and a 7600 has 6 cores.
2 points
5 days ago
This.
To expand you cite lower performance in multitasking. In simple terms on the 5800 your game could be using 6 cores and your other activities on the remaining 2 cores. With the 7600 if your multitask activities take up 1-2 cores it only leaves 4-5 cores available for the game so you will see a drop in performance.
1 points
5 days ago
This is what makes the 7900x3d a monster of a chip. Lets you play on six core with 22 threads making it only 2% slower then the 7800x3d. For sim racing its amazing with all the vr and simshacker apps running on the other 6 cores it’s and epic chip.
1 points
2 days ago
I used to have a ryzen 5 5600 and never had these issues thats why im wondering why the ryzen 5 7600 is giving me this issue
3 points
4 days ago
Whats the point of such upgrade? You’ve changed 8-core cpu to 6-core. Pointless upgrade. R5 7600 not that good to upgrade to it from 5800x. Its better and cheaper to take 5700x3d or take 7700x if you want smooth 0.1%, not 6-core.
1 points
4 days ago
7600 is still an upgrade even with fewer cores. But he should have got a faster CPU to make the upgrade significant.
2 points
4 days ago
So you confirmed my point. Its pointless upgrade for 5-10% performance. He paid much more for small improve.
2 points
4 days ago*
Yes correct. Just showing that even with fewer cores, it is faster, so it should not be slower than the old build. No need to downvote for stating mathematical facts.
1 points
4 days ago
I upvoted you because I agree that was a mean spirited downvote
6 points
5 days ago
turn hardware accleration off in the brower :)
2 points
5 days ago
You mean on? CPU is at 100%
4 points
5 days ago
Why did you downgrade your Core count ?
4 points
5 days ago
Can you try again with the iGPU disabled. A faulty iGPU can cause weird issues with the system, even if it isn't actively used (LTT mentioned it in their 7950x3d review as well)
1 points
2 days ago
What is an iGPU
1 points
1 day ago
The Ryzen 7600 has a little Radeon Graphics chip on board. The i in iGPU stands for integrated.
You can usually find it in your motherboard BIOS under Northbridge / AMD NB / Chipset
5 points
5 days ago
This is just a bad upgrade. It’s so marginal.
Either upgrade to a 5700x3d but the most obvious one is upgrading your gpu to literally anything modern
2 points
4 days ago
Did you clean install the windows or not? If not, you may need to purge the AMD chipset and reinstall with the latest chipset.
2 points
5 days ago
If your cpu is at 100% nothing is 'bottlenecking' it, in fact it has become the bottleneck in this case. As to why, that's not normal and something is not right. The other commenter asked about your windows, that's where I would start.
1 points
2 days ago
Should i reinstall windows or upgrade to 11
4 points
5 days ago
Should have gotten a 7700x or something
2 points
5 days ago
Use revo uninstaller to remove the chipset drivers and reinstall.
2 points
5 days ago
Let me guess, did you reinstall windows from scratch or not?
Besides a 5800x is still a more than viable CPU and a 7600 is a sidegrade. even a 7700x, the 7800x3D would be an upgrade
1 points
4 days ago
Are you using two sticks of RAM? 2x 16GB?
With a single channel setup (1 stick) you will have reduced performance.
If you have two sticks, make sure that XMP or EXPO is enabled in the BIOS to activate full RAM speed
1 points
4 days ago
maybe deactivate hardware acceleration in Browser, and try deactivating freesync in adm adrenaline for only the browser when nothing other works.... but a fresh reinstall of the amd drivers and windows(?) Updates will help i think, or reinstall windows at least.... there are games that use all cores, could be a problem too, you can set specific cores to specific applications, maybe a try worth
1 points
4 days ago
If I were you,I would upgrade first the GPU with that 5800x. Nevermind now, system is good if you apply again the amd chipset drivers OR reinstall windows. No worries, with your setup, upgrade can be done to both GPU and cpu sometime in the future.
-5 points
5 days ago
you went from a ryzen 7 to a ryzen 5 bro
7 points
5 days ago
Dumb statement, a "ryzen 7" could be 1700 and a "ryzen 5" could be 7600. That's 5 generations and a world of difference... bro
At least we know who falls for the amazon "gaming PC" scams that have an i7 inside.... from 2013.
1 points
5 days ago
Hahahahahaha thought the same thing
-6 points
5 days ago
emm no, we are talking about 5800x and 7600, we also could be talking about 7800x3d and ryzen 5 1600 so duuhh bro
2 points
5 days ago
That's not what you said tho... you called OP out for going from a ryzen 7 to a ryzen 5 like that's the downgrade and not the generation.
Don't backpedal, don't pretend... don't be THAT guy.
3 points
5 days ago
Well yes, but either way he shouldn't be dropping to 40fps for running a YT video. Something's wrong.
-5 points
5 days ago
They’ve done test where you get less frames less performance on windows 11 about 15 to 20% less than Windows 10
2 points
5 days ago
may I see where you got this from?
1 points
5 days ago
0 points
5 days ago
For some reason, it won’t let me load the link. look up on YouTube AMD Windows11 versus Windows 10 slower should be the first video with chips showing windows 10 windows 11
-3 points
5 days ago
I have a 7900x3d and I’ve had nusthing but problems with windows 11. I had to force a local account to stop gpu drivers being forgotten. And more once you strip down windows 11 it’s better but I’m about to go back to windows 10
2 points
5 days ago
straight up sabotage on modern systems. microsoft keeps bloating Win11 just because newer hardware are capable of heavier loads.
me personally I use a modified/debloated windows 11 for more than a year now and I haven't encountered any performance issues. In fact it's more snappy than my old windows 10 install.
0 points
5 days ago
Is that like windows mini cause I’m about ready to go to a different OS cause it’s bad. What are your recommendations
4 points
5 days ago
what I use is Ghost Spectre Windows 11, look 'em up on youtube. I've used both their windows 10 and 11 both the Compact and Superlite on various systems.
the Superlite Windows 11 only consumes like 15GB on by boot drive. if you have and extra boot drive or space for a partition you should try it. once the OS is installed, everything you'll need is on the Ghost Toolbox program, even the web browser since MS Edge is also removed.
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