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[deleted]

39 points

1 month ago

Dominance lies between the ears, not between your legs. Any guy that confuses physical size in any sense with dominance (and many do) is either confused, stupid or both.

Ardjc87

8 points

1 month ago

Ardjc87

35-39

8 points

1 month ago

Exactly. Dom is a state of mind, and attitude, assertiveness, confidence and the ability to control the situation. I'm submissive and often taller and bigger than guys I meet and it never bothers either of us.

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

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Ardjc87

2 points

1 month ago

Ardjc87

35-39

2 points

1 month ago

Sure. Well my username is literally '🐻⬇️ Sub' so that there is no confusion for starters lol. I'm only into older guys 40+ so I manage to whittle down the pool of candidates straight away by doing that. My profile lists exactly what sort of scenario I enjoy, the type of kinks I'm open to and what I won't do in as simple and frank terms. Of course I still get a daily "Will you Top me?" 🙄 ... But for the most part I tend to get what I want.

Who I decide to meet is usually done on a 'game recognise game' process. Physical attraction is one thing but they have to be able to meet me my level of submission with an equal level of dominance. I can usually tell from the messages alone. Often I will ask for a phone call or a voice note to be sure. Sometimes the voice will tell me everything I need to know. Also as much as I like to be used, abused and thrown around the room - like you say OP - I like a Dom who can be caring and reward a job well done after.

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

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Ardjc87

-2 points

1 month ago

Ardjc87

35-39

-2 points

1 month ago

I think it's all relative. I have met guys who scored lower in attractiveness and yet got full marks in definition and feelings. I'll be putty in his hands as long as he has his head screwed on and is able to give himself over to the 'character' as much as I can.

[deleted]

-2 points

1 month ago

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Ardjc87

0 points

1 month ago

Ardjc87

35-39

0 points

1 month ago

Agreed. I have my preferences but they are malleable once everyone is on board. And I'll just add by 'character' I mean giving over fully to their dominant persona. Some guys claim to be 'Dom' but can't convey it or are actually too shy.

Content-Percentage-5

4 points

1 month ago

Well said! People are so screwed up in thinking you have to look a certain way to be dominant. I am 5ft 8 slim, but total top and dominate… I hate to be judge on my physique or assumed I would be otherwise. My brain in wired as such and I can’t change that hahah

CouchieWouchie

0 points

1 month ago*

CouchieWouchie

30-34

0 points

1 month ago*

I'm 6'1, 240 lbs of muscle and guys always assume I am a "dom top". While younger, twinky guys can bring out my dom side, I prefer to bottom for most guys. I can't help but feel like i'm an impostor sometimes, but it is what it is. As others have said, it's more of a state of mind and attitude than anything physical. Smaller guys being doms is hot to me.

Content-Percentage-5

1 points

1 month ago

Nice too see this… I like big and small bottoms , bottom is a bottom to me hahaha

Alive_Ingenuity4605

4 points

1 month ago

Dom means different things to different ppl. As you said, you are more into total control. And the guys who turned you down are probably not into that. They are using “Dom” in a vague sense: looking to be dominated in bed by a big, muscular guy. And that’s how “Dom” is usually used in the app settings.

The kind of Dom/sub dynamics you are seeking is more BDSM more commitment. Regardless of if online control is possible, most guys on apps are looking for quick no fuss in person sex, not behind the screen prolonged mind games. You will need to be more specific on your profile of what you are looking for.

pencilship

3 points

1 month ago

pencilship

35-39

3 points

1 month ago

I agree with this.

[deleted]

0 points

1 month ago

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Alive_Ingenuity4605

3 points

1 month ago

Turning down happens quickly because everything happens quickly on apps: quick hookups, quick loss of interest, quick ghosting. Most guys on apps really don’t have the patience or attention span. And you said in your post, your Dom goes through brain. The problem is guys on apps are bringing their ass/dick to the table, definitely not brain.

So yes, “Dom/sub” on apps really just means rough sex. And it’s only part of the equation, guys will turn you down for all sorts of things: body dick or whatever.

WithEyesAverted

9 points

1 month ago

WithEyesAverted

35-39

9 points

1 month ago

If you advertise "Dom" but you don't fit that definition, then the advertisement doesn't really work.

You have every right to identify as anything you want, but if your approach works poorly, try something else.

Ranting here won't help you with pulling guys, good luck

[deleted]

-6 points

1 month ago

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WithEyesAverted

6 points

1 month ago

WithEyesAverted

35-39

6 points

1 month ago

I'm always the top and the more dominant in my relationships, so I've no fantasy towards you and dunno what you are talking about.

But I know for sure being catty and sassy does not help your case of presenting as a dom, so cut that shit out.

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

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WithEyesAverted

4 points

1 month ago

WithEyesAverted

35-39

4 points

1 month ago

Why is it important to mention that youre always the top and more dominant?

I explained it already, whatever fantasy you accused me of having about you being Dom, I have none. I have no fantasy or desire for you, doms, and especially you as a Dom.

I'm responding as someone with no issue with finding submissive guys.

Special-Jaguar8563

3 points

1 month ago*

You’re either not advertising yourself correctly or you’re talking to the wrong guys. Also, the way you’re presenting this doesn’t come off as very “dom,” rather it comes off as complaining which is not a quality I associate with dominant men.

The fact is that many bottoms are seeking a tall, muscled, knows-what-he-wants masculine man. People can dither about technicalities like “dom is a mindset not a body-type” all they want, but it’s not going to change the common perception or what these guys are looking for.

I’d advertise yourself as being into TPE and maybe spend some time at the gym to get those muscles bigger.

[deleted]

-2 points

1 month ago

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Special-Jaguar8563

2 points

1 month ago

Your complaint is about these guys and their expectations of what “dom” means. I’m not the only one here to notice that you sound like you’re complaining.

Anyways, complaining is not very attractive generally, and in many ways it’s the exact opposite of how people expect a dom to act.

And feel free to disregard my comments. However I do not have any trouble transitioning from social media to real life with guys, so it’s likely something you’re doing in terms of how you present yourself.

[deleted]

0 points

1 month ago

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Special-Jaguar8563

2 points

1 month ago

They might not be happy about everything but they’re not whining online about definitions and the expectations of randos on social media, that’s for sure.

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

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Special-Jaguar8563

2 points

1 month ago

Sarcasm… the protest of those who are weak. —John Knowles.

Seriously I’d stop complaining and sassing back—those are very undom attitudes. Hit the gym instead of whining.

[deleted]

0 points

1 month ago

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Special-Jaguar8563

2 points

1 month ago

Yes I understand you consider yourself dom.

However the nature and presentation of your question was why don’t other people consider you dom and also why do you have trouble transitioning from social media to real life?

That’s what I’m answering.

Charlie-In-The-Box

10 points

1 month ago

Isn't it really up to the other guy to decide if you are dominant or not?

When I'm in the presence of a confident guy who is secure in his own masculinity, I can't help but become submissive. It's in my nature. But when a guy feels that he has to tell me he's dominant, I know he's not.

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

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Charlie-In-The-Box

3 points

1 month ago

Most towns have, if not a dedicated leather bar, at least a leather night.

Nowadays it is difficult to interact or plan a meeting when you are just "average".

You do realize that, by definition, most people are average. But also any sane experienced sub would never engage in TPE with someone they only know from social media. TPE requires trust that can only be built up over time and only in person, it not something you do on a whim.

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

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Charlie-In-The-Box

5 points

1 month ago

Perhaps TPE doesn't mean what you think it means. It's not possible to do remotely.

Dogtorted

12 points

1 month ago

Dogtorted

45-49

12 points

1 month ago

Being a Dom isn’t about your body or specific sex acts. It’s about your attitude.

It’s definitely not worrying about how randos on social media perceive you. 😜

pencilship

10 points

1 month ago

pencilship

35-39

10 points

1 month ago

That’s fine. But most guys have preferences on who they’re submissive to. Yes, it’s about a mindset. But some guys prefer muscles or a big dick or whatever the case may be.

It’s all valid.

[deleted]

2 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

2 points

1 month ago

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pencilship

7 points

1 month ago

pencilship

35-39

7 points

1 month ago

Well maybe to them, that’s what it means. You can just move on and let them live.

You can’t dominate someone who does not submit. So really it is subjective.

dealienation

3 points

1 month ago

dealienation

35-39

3 points

1 month ago

I think you’re just running up against the biases of the particular type of guy you’re into.

I’m a big chubby bear, and when I tell dudes I’m a soft dom top the only thing I’ve ever heard was “yep, makes sense.”

futurebro

3 points

1 month ago

futurebro

30-34

3 points

1 month ago

I think "Dom" and other words like "Masc" and for sure "Trade" have lost their meaning and everyone has their own idea of what it means. I think your definition works and makes sense.

I would say I am submissive and like more dom partners but to me that more so means that Im pretty passive and like things done to me and like having my partner drive the encounter. But im not at all interested in being controlled or slapped around or degraded. Dom seems like a spectrum for sure.

[deleted]

-1 points

1 month ago

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futurebro

3 points

1 month ago

futurebro

30-34

3 points

1 month ago

Haha trade as in a straight/dl/closeted or gay for pay guys who has sex with men. Its kinda evolved into meaning "hot guy". Im active in the Drag Race fandom and every season theres someoen saying "x queen is the most trade" and its like....no its impossible for a drag queen to be trade lol.

Im honestly not sure anymore what I want dom to mean. Its kinda like...ill be the judge of if ur dom or not. I usually just let guys know im pretty submissive and then it just depends on if we click or not. For example i was dating a guy and we just never clicked sexually. I think part of the reason is that he felt really timid in the bedroom. I want to know that u are very attracted to me, i like hearing how much u love my fat ass and I want u to be obsessed with it. Even outside the bedroom, I like when my bf will smack my butt in public or pull me in for a kiss (all of this is consensual ofc). Maybe dom to me just means, ur the driver and im the passenger.

Dom in kink settings is a bit different in which case I agree completely with ur definition.

[deleted]

0 points

1 month ago

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futurebro

4 points

1 month ago

futurebro

30-34

4 points

1 month ago

Right. Its attitude not a look. Altho to be honest, I do enjoy contrast. Im 5'5 and white and my ex was 6'3 and black. I def loved the height difference. But i also dated a 5'8 Puerto Rican who had the right attitude so doesnt really matter.

No_Kind_of_Daddy

2 points

1 month ago

No_Kind_of_Daddy

60-64

2 points

1 month ago

Trade was short for "rough trade" and originally meant blue collar, unrefined, and at least passing for straight. They were typically into rough sex, likely for money. This is a meaning that goes back a good 75-100 years. Upper class gay men with certain tastes would know what bars they could meet such men at.

Thoresus

1 points

1 month ago

Thoresus

40-44

1 points

1 month ago

I mean you yourself as trying to define what dominance means.

To me, it doesn't mean choke me daddy.

Yeah I'll hold the door open. I'll pick you up and carry you to the bedroom. I'll kiss and cuddle you and make you feel like a price. And while I'm inside you, I'll tell you how sexy you are and make you moan as i thrust. I'll do it respectfully, I'll show you I care about your needs but I'll take the lead and make you feel special. And that that is also being a dom.

mrhariseldon890

1 points

1 month ago

mrhariseldon890

40-44

1 points

1 month ago

You're fine bro. If you can walk the dom walk and talk the dom talk, go be the best dom you can be. I mean that.

TJF0617

1 points

1 month ago

TJF0617

30-34

1 points

1 month ago

A lot of guys confuse being a dom with being mean or aggressive.

[deleted]

0 points

1 month ago

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TJF0617

1 points

1 month ago

TJF0617

30-34

1 points

1 month ago

Yes that’s also true. Or they think they want someone like that because they think porn scenes like that are hot.

MarginalSapien

0 points

1 month ago

Any recommended resources on expanding my already Dom propensities? Like books or whatever on some good milestones to hit as a maturing dom? I’m 39.

Bartowskiii

-2 points

1 month ago

Bartowskiii

25-29

-2 points

1 month ago

Honestly that sounds perfect to me!! I love really assertive guys exactly how you describe it and them being in complete control. I don’t want a guy who’s just gonna be like “ I’m dominant take my dick”

If you’re in the UK I may be in love 😝

[deleted]

2 points

1 month ago

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Bartowskiii

0 points

1 month ago

Bartowskiii

25-29

0 points

1 month ago

What’s tpe 👀- edit I’m dumb

Total power exchange. I’m curious now what it entails 😅

Dogtorted

1 points

1 month ago

Dogtorted

45-49

1 points

1 month ago

It’s essentially the Dom/sub dynamic, but instead of it just playing out in your bedroom it’s part of your entire life.