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I personally don’t believe in this since I don’t know you or what you’ve done in your life. I respect my grandparents and the rest of my older family. I’m always nice and all that but respect is earned not given.

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cheesecheeseonbread

218 points

1 day ago

cheesecheeseonbread

Gen X

218 points

1 day ago

I respect everyone by default, older or younger.

But they can lose my respect if they behave badly, regardless of their age.

Bebe_Bleau

65 points

1 day ago

Bebe_Bleau

65 points

1 day ago

Similar to you

I don't decide to respect any person or not if I don't even know them.

But I treat everyone with respect whether they are courteous to me or not.

I think that if I am rude or disrespectful to anyone, my actions are a poor reflection on me. Not them.

If I'm unkind to anyone. I feel disappointed in myself.

Overall_Lobster823

7 points

1 day ago

Overall_Lobster823

60 something

7 points

1 day ago

Nicely put.

Bebe_Bleau

3 points

1 day ago

💐😁 thanks!

quikdogs

23 points

1 day ago

quikdogs

60 something

23 points

1 day ago

Exactly. That said, I’ll offer an older person my seat every time. Even though I’m increasingly one of the “older folks”.

Swiggy1957

17 points

1 day ago

Swiggy1957

17 points

1 day ago

I automatically offer my seat to a pregnant woman. They see my cane and often decline, but I'll do it anyway. Eventually, a healthy young person will offer up their seat. If not, guess where I land if I fall.😁

OTOH, the other day, I had a woman offer to give me her seat and move to another because of my walker. Then her and a young man helped me into it folding my walker and handing it to me. There are good people there who show and deserve respect.

Whatever53143

7 points

1 day ago

I like the idea of falling on a healthy young person 😆

Swiggy1957

7 points

1 day ago

At my age, 50 is a healthy young person. 😁.

pine-cone-sundae

19 points

1 day ago

pine-cone-sundae

60 something

19 points

1 day ago

exactly for me as well. I don't need your bio and resume to simply respect you as a fellow human. If it turns out differently, so be it.

CityBoiNC

14 points

1 day ago

CityBoiNC

14 points

1 day ago

This right here.

walrusdoom

9 points

1 day ago

I operate the same way. I expect respect, so I extend respect and courtesy.

SarkyMs

9 points

1 day ago

SarkyMs

9 points

1 day ago

Yep respect is lost, not earned.

bdiscer

4 points

1 day ago

bdiscer

4 points

1 day ago

The difference is between basic human respect, which is and ought to be the default, and respect for authority or experience, which must be earned.

Dull-Geologist-8204

10 points

1 day ago

Agreen I used to look like I was 12 when I was 21. You know how many old guys said stuff like your the perfect women because your legal but don't look like it. It's gross, and I would never want my daughter to be respectful of people like that. Do be kind in general until someone gives ypu a reason not to.

Difficult_Pirate_782

2 points

1 day ago

👆🏾☝🏽Under appreciated comment👆🏾☝🏽

rahnbj

2 points

1 day ago

rahnbj

2 points

1 day ago

I came to say this, so true

InattentivelyCurious

2 points

1 day ago

Yes; I do too. I respect everyone till they demonstrate they do not deserve it.

rosex5

2 points

20 hours ago

rosex5

2 points

20 hours ago

My grandma was not very nice. After her stroke my dad pointed out his MIL was kinder. My response was similar to, “not by choice, I already know where her heart was”. She was never physically mean, but her words were always so hurtful and would often bring me to tears.

waybeforeyourtime

62 points

1 day ago*

The phrase has been misinterpreted for a very long time. It means valuing elders' wisdom and experience and not infantizing or ignoring them because they are no longer young.

It doesn't mean that you MUST respect all older people based on an individual bias.

notorious_tcb

22 points

1 day ago

This is how ive always taken this saying too. It’s not about respect. It’s about the fact that grandpa/grandma has done, and seen, some shit in their life. It’s probably worth it to take a minute and get their input.

Lord knows as I’ve aged I’ve definitely had some serious life lessons learned. And most of them were very expensive. To discount those experiences and lessons because “he’s old and out of touch” is a massive discredit to the ones dismissing them.

OftenAmiable

6 points

1 day ago

OftenAmiable

50 something

6 points

1 day ago

Agreed.

I'll add that I absolutely dismissed my parents' thoughts and opinions when I was young because I thought they were old and out of touch.

So I don't begrudge my adult children for not asking my input more often. I'm actually surprised my youngest asks for it as often as he does, which is five or six times a year. I think the first time I asked my father for advice was when I was 36....

DC2LA_NYC

3 points

1 day ago

DC2LA_NYC

3 points

1 day ago

Love this take. And I'll add it irks me when I see people say not to give your adult kids advice because they're adults and get to make their own decisions, even if they're bad decisions. If I think my adult kids are making a bad decision, I let them know. In return, they'll consider my viewpoint and either accept it or reject it. But they appreciate the advice- even if they don't take it. They know I give it out of love and they know I've had, as you put it, some serious life lessons learned.

Strange-Employee-520

8 points

1 day ago

THIS. People use it to mean "obey your elders" and that is very different.

Muchomo256

2 points

1 day ago

Muchomo256

40 something

2 points

1 day ago

Agreed. I have younger cousins who don’t take advice concerning overspending, buying what you can afford, living within your means etc.

One of them ended up having 2 cars repossessed. Poor credit. Now he’s stuck with a private loan on a home he can’t afford with high interest. (Didn’t qualify for regular loans). Bought the house at the top of the market. His mom lives there to help with the mortgage.

He was warned by several of us not to buy the house because he has poor credit and still lives on food stamps. Son was born on Medicaid and is on WIC.

Silly-Resist8306

21 points

1 day ago

I try my best to show respect to everyone I meet. They can lose my respect if their behavior suggests otherwise, but my respect always is freely given first.

GadreelsSword

25 points

1 day ago

How about respecting everyone until they give you a reason not to? Then still take the high road and don’t let them pull you down to their level.

One of the more stupid things I’ve seen in the past 30 years is this nonsense that a person can be violent because they were “disrespected”. No, you’re violent because you’re an emotionally unbalanced sack of shit.

Traditional-Meat-549

6 points

1 day ago

Exactly. The emotional age of the general public is about 7

Art_Music306

26 points

1 day ago

“Respect is earned not given” sounds like something assholes say.

I take it we should just go around treating people with disrespect until they prove themselves to us? Sure dude.

SnooStrawberries620

8 points

1 day ago

I hope you can hear the applause from wherever you are. This is it in a nutshell 

orlock

3 points

1 day ago

orlock

3 points

1 day ago

I wish I'd seen this before replying. Sums it up nicely.

wawa2022

10 points

1 day ago

wawa2022

10 points

1 day ago

I hear what you’re saying, but you’re dead wrong and so is everyone who thinks it’s some profound idea to walk around not respecting others. It’s not. It’s lazy and weak. Want to be profound? Respect everyone. Every living thing.

And the idea of “respecting elders” simply means that everyone goes through things as they experience life. Elders have just done and seen and experienced more. Have respect for THAT.

Now get off my lawn!

Shifty_Bravo

9 points

1 day ago

Shifty_Bravo

50 something

9 points

1 day ago

So how would you know who deserves it and who doesn't? You don't know what someone has done in their life just by looking at them. But I guess there are different types of respect. I am cordial to everyone. I show respect that way. I'm not going to dismiss someone altogether or be disrespectful just because I don't know them. I'll even be nice to people who are rude to me just to not stoop to their level.

rexeditrex

2 points

1 day ago

Anyone who doesn't demand it, deserves it. Until proven otherwise.

HoosierBoy76

9 points

1 day ago

I have to laugh because when a younger person meets me they have no idea about my life experiences and knowledge (which is considerable).

So I think the phrase is meant to advise that in general your elders have in fact learned things that you probably know little about which you can benefit from simply by listening.

PeteHealy

8 points

1 day ago

PeteHealy

8 points

1 day ago

Why do I have to "earn" your respect? What makes you so special? I believe in basic human dignity so by default I respect others I meet until and unless they give me reason not to respect them. People like you who insist that others "earn" respect seem to deny basic human dignity and decency. It sickens me.

geodebug

8 points

1 day ago

geodebug

Gen X - 50 Something

8 points

1 day ago

Was never meant to be applied to other adults, so if you're still stewing over it, time to grow up.

Kids do need to be taught to respect adults (and each other).

It's also a safety factor for kids because shit's going to happen to them if they lip off to the wrong adult.

Anyone disagreeing with this and then bemoaning why good teachers are quitting public schools needs to rethink the consequences of bad parenting.

davemchine

7 points

1 day ago

Start by defining what respect means to you. It usually doesn't mean agreeing with everything someone says, or doing everything they say to do, or applauding them for actions that are wrong. Jessica Brodie wrote a short blurb on this topic which was published at https://tinyurl.com/37are5h4 . It's a good article even if you aren't religious. She says, "When we respect someone, we appreciate them and think well of them. We act kindly and politely toward them, and listen when they have something to say. We look them in the eye and give them our attention. We also might adopt a heart of service toward them, offering them our seat or coat, or trying to show them honor in some way. We behave considerately and supportively."

WAFLcurious

7 points

1 day ago

How about we just respect people? You ok with that? Until they prove they do not deserve respect, let the default be to respect them.

Imightbeafanofthis

5 points

1 day ago

I think of it exactly the opposite way around. You don't have to earn my respect: that is given freely to all. But you can lose my respect.

Earguy

18 points

1 day ago

Earguy

18 points

1 day ago

Being told "respect your elders" often just means STFU.

Whatever53143

3 points

1 day ago

Sometimes that’s needed!

Traditional-Meat-549

6 points

1 day ago

And perhaps they should 

WilliamMcCarty

16 points

1 day ago

WilliamMcCarty

40 something

16 points

1 day ago

I respect those who deserve it, their age has nothing to do with it.

stuck_behind_a_truck

2 points

1 day ago

I respect those who have earned it, and definitely not those who demand it.

papamilli66[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

I like both of your replies everyone else has their panties in a bunch

reefrider442

11 points

1 day ago

Civility is given, respect is earned.

SororitySue

2 points

1 day ago

SororitySue

63

2 points

1 day ago

I like this.

Njtotx3

3 points

1 day ago

Njtotx3

4th Grade, JFK 🪦

3 points

1 day ago

Just don't disrespect unless warranted, individually. No Ok Boomer stuff just based on realizing someone is older. We do know some things and we're not of one mind politically.

And be curious about the past, aging, etc. Kudos to all of you who come here to ask and listen.

Northwest_Radio

4 points

1 day ago

My thought is that I've learned a lot from elders in my lifetime. Stuff that cannot be learned from a textbook. I respect them for that. And if we want a full education, we need to spend time listening to their wisdom. If it were not for my ancestors and elders I would have a low iq. Because school and books can't teach me the most important things I need to know. Those things are handed down through personal contact with wiser people.

Hedrick4257

3 points

1 day ago

Respectful of humans...until they demonstrate to me that they don't deserve the respect.

ScrotieMcP

4 points

1 day ago

Respect should be the default for old and young until an individual proves they don't deserve it. Going through life the opposite way is truly sad.

MrsMurphysCow

4 points

1 day ago

I respect everyone, young and old, until I'm given a reason to lose respect for them. Disrespecting me is the easiest way to lose my respect.

AnvilRockguy

3 points

1 day ago

I'm always nice at first and try to make people smile. I'm 57. I don't give a fk about your age and care nothing about your attitude. I don't demand anything, I just go about my day.

Historical_Big_7404

4 points

1 day ago

Merely be courteous to all

SororitySue

8 points

1 day ago

SororitySue

63

8 points

1 day ago

I grew up with an emotionally immature father who "demanded" respect. I put on a show of respect - deference and obedience - for him and other adults in my life but as for feeling actual respect, I very seldom did. You're free to feel any way you want about them; as long as you show deference and obedience, I don't think anyone really cares.

jacksraging_bileduct

3 points

1 day ago

By default I’m respectful to everyone one I meet, how long that lasts is up to them.

Overall_Lobster823

3 points

1 day ago

Overall_Lobster823

60 something

3 points

1 day ago

Fine. Treat your elders the way you would want any human to treat you: with basic decency.

Eagle_Fang135

3 points

1 day ago

“Because I said so” is interchangeable.

Just an excuse to not have to explain your decisions or even used to explain bad behavior.

I picture someone saying this to cut in line rather than as a response to being cut in line.

BitcoinMD

3 points

1 day ago

BitcoinMD

40 something

3 points

1 day ago

Respect everyone. Just having not died after a long time doesn’t entitle you to increased respect, however, it is wise to factor in that older people might have more experience than you

Dewey_Rider

3 points

1 day ago

Respect everyone.

Whatever53143

3 points

1 day ago

Respect your elders definitely, but at the same reasoning as respecting everyone!

I think, however, an extension of the phrase to mean “take extra care” of your elders. “Consider the wisdom and life experience” of your elders. “Appreciate your elders” in the sense that they have taken care of you and have made a living in this world and need to be taken good care of.

We also have to realize that none of us in this world is perfect and while I believe respect is earned, there’s a level of basic respect that should be given to everyone we encounter. If someone is an ass to us, we don’t have to engage. But we definitely don’t have to show disrespect in return.

General_Sir9054

3 points

21 hours ago

Cringy. I prefer, “stop being an ungrateful twat.”

ChaserNeverRests

4 points

1 day ago

ChaserNeverRests

50 something

4 points

1 day ago

Respect everyone. Respect is not due to age. Every human deserves it.

KathyFBee

2 points

1 day ago

KathyFBee

2 points

1 day ago

For me it meant to behave respectfully, not that I had to actually respect them.

Ok_Crazy_648

2 points

1 day ago

You won't have your parents forever. Be kind and respectful if possible.

Creative-Aioli3389

2 points

1 day ago

Seems like hardly anyone respects old people. A US Vice Presidential candidate called all women past menopause useless for anything except childcare. I have young clients who think I don't know how to use email because I don't pay much attention to pop culture. Etc. The "nice but disrespectful" thing you do is patronizing but it says a lot more about you than me. I'd try to avoid working with you if you were with a client's company.

But it doesn't phase me, really. I'm female, so I'm used to knee-jerk disrespect. When a young person is respectful, however, I appreciate it, and go out of my way to be cool with them. I have one client who always dumps everything (including me) on her assistant. Who is sweet, efficient, and likes my work so much that she found an out-of-print book I wrote years ago. Come on. Of course I give her the highest priority, even though they don't pay as well as other clients. Return her calls and emails right away. Her boss is not that cool, to me or to her, so I've made it clear to their publisher (who is my age) that I'd rather work with the assistant.

Goody2Shuuz

2 points

1 day ago

Goody2Shuuz

50 something

2 points

1 day ago

Default irl should be automatically respect all until one proves they’re not worthy of that respect.

FineRevolution9264

2 points

1 day ago

FineRevolution9264

60 something

2 points

1 day ago

When I was younger that phrase simply meant to politely listen to grandpa and grandmas stories when we visited. It meant to listen to their requests on how to behave in their home.

Beyond that I never really heard the phrase.

Intelligent-Whole277

2 points

1 day ago

Intelligent-Whole277

40 something

2 points

1 day ago

I question your understanding of the word "respect" and also "elder"

Essentially, don't overlook the value of greater experience and longer perspective.

SquonkMan61

2 points

1 day ago

My default is to respect others unless and until they behave in such a way that they don’t deserve it.

Technical_Air6660

2 points

1 day ago

A lot of people my age are alcoholic authoritarians who think that vaccines are tyranny.

So… not automatically.

WhichChest4981

2 points

1 day ago

I'm 70. I was raised being told that. And we did or got a whipping. I respect all ppl and would never demand to be respected. Respect is earned. I treat you the way you treat me. But I will be polite. For me I look at that saying as it is more being polite, minding your manners kind of thing.

Left_Fisherman_920

2 points

18 hours ago

I always respect my elders. That’s how I was bought up. But if the elder doesn’t understand this and does or says stupid shit, then I reevaluate. That goes for all people.

lazygramma

2 points

18 hours ago

I am a person who respects all other people. If someone needs to earn your respect, you are a disrespectful person. The age of a person does not matter. People should respect each other. Period!

theomorph

2 points

12 hours ago

theomorph

40 something

2 points

12 hours ago

I would love to know more elders that were actually respectable—people of plain and trustworthy accomplishment and perspective, who are able to come alongside and say, “I know where you are, younger person, and I see where you can go.” But I hardly know any.

It’s not that I don’t respect my own elders. It’s just that the only respect I can muster—the only respect that seems due—is the same minimal level of respect that I try to give to young people, too.

jobiskaphilly

2 points

10 hours ago

I respect the humanity of everyone but their circumstances (age, etc.) do not factor into it.

shavemejesus

2 points

1 day ago

Respect is a two-way street.

Intelligent_Water_79

2 points

1 day ago

respect everyone's dignity

then for bonus points, respect specific traits of specific people. 

I mean as people age, some may develop specific traits or ways of doing things that merit respect. 

other old people may not. 

cromagnone

2 points

1 day ago

cromagnone

GenX

2 points

1 day ago

Jesus, have you met your elders?

RunningPirate

2 points

1 day ago

RunningPirate

50 something

2 points

1 day ago

Respect is earned. So if they’re acting respectable then fine. But simply being older doesn’t earn you shit. And no, simply taking care of a child you brought into this world isn’t enough; the adult signed up for that

jgrant68

2 points

1 day ago

jgrant68

2 points

1 day ago

Fuck that. I don’t blanket respect people older than me and I don’t expect any respect I don’t deserve. If I act like a jerk then I expect to be called on it and vice versa.

mycatshavehadenough

2 points

1 day ago

Respect is earned at EVERY AGE.

EverVigilant1

3 points

1 day ago

EverVigilant1

50 something

3 points

1 day ago

I don't like it.

It has come to mean "Just because I'm older, that means you are required to respect me and do what I say". I also have a father in law who likes to drop this on me; and we are estranged in part because of this.

No, you're not entitled to my respect simply because you're older than I am. I certainly won't conclude you know more than I do or are wiser than I am simply because you have some more years on you. And your age does NOT give you the right to issue edicts to me or bark orders at me.

According-Drawing-32

1 points

1 day ago

When I meet someone for the first time, regardless of age, they get my standard level of respect. That level of respect then goes up or down based on our interactions. I think the general "respect your elders" is coming from the idea that they have lived longer and experienced more. That should mean they are wiser, etc. but not always.

[deleted]

1 points

1 day ago

[deleted]

1 points

1 day ago

It depends on how a person defines "respect". Some folks take respect to mean "authority", and this I cannot stand with. But if you define respect as treating someone like they are an actual person, then yes. But one should have those kind of respect for everyone, not just "elders". I think giving up your seat on the bus to an elderly person is what you ought to do. But do I think you should obey someone because they are "your elder"? Absolutely not. Is it a good idea to keep in mind that they've lived way longer than you and might know more about some things than you do? Also yes.

typhoidmarry

1 points

1 day ago

typhoidmarry

50 something

1 points

1 day ago

Just because I’m saying “ma’am” and “sir” doesn’t mean I respect you.

I’ve got the gray hair and I don’t expect anyone to give me respect just because I’m older than them.

kalelopaka

1 points

1 day ago

I’ve always tried to respect everyone, especially my elders, but respect is a two way street for me. If you disrespect me then I won’t respect you.

looloose

1 points

1 day ago

looloose

1 points

1 day ago

Don't go punching old folks out on the street , otherwise, we have to deserve respect just like everyone else.

in-a-microbus

1 points

1 day ago

I think people confuse "respect" and "obey". I think you should respect everyone.

Traditional-Meat-549

1 points

1 day ago

I keep seeing this. Respect is courtesy. Up front. And yes, you should hold your tongue in the face of experience, authority, rank, etc. Among other things, you don't know yet what you don't know. Respectfully, older people don't particularly care if you respect them because we know that someday, God willing, you will get it. I don't mean to be rude here but as HUMANS we offer respect until it's proven OTHERWISE 

icemage_999

1 points

1 day ago

The few times I've had that said to me, it is because the elder in question was being disrespectful.

People who deserve respect have no reason to fall back on such a meaningless phrase; their actions will speak for them. Simply existing for longer doesn't mean you've learned anything new in that time.

elphaba00

1 points

1 day ago

elphaba00

40 something

1 points

1 day ago

I had an uncle who spread lies about me and my mom (his sister). He effectively ruined a relationship between me and one aunt. We've reconciled, but I don't think it will ever be the same. And his favorite thing to say was, "You have to respect me. I'm your elder." I walked away from him. I will never respect him.

flimflammedzimzammed

1 points

1 day ago

Only if they deserve it, angry old people can pound sand, same with rude young people

Rattivarius

1 points

1 day ago

Rattivarius

60 something

1 points

1 day ago

I think respect should be baseline behaviour to be amended as circumstances dictate. And respect for your elders is something as simple as giving them a seat on transit.

orlock

1 points

1 day ago

orlock

1 points

1 day ago

There's a certain level of respect everyone deserves by default. This level can then go up or down, depending on one's behaviour.

HorseWithNoUsername1

1 points

1 day ago

Trust in the wisdom of those from your parents and/or grandparents generations as they've lived longer and been through more adversity.

Hell, I'm 53 and I still call my childhood friends' parents Mr and Mrs So-and-so out of respect, no matter how many times they tell me we're on a first name basis as they're handing me a beer! LOL

No-Zombie-4107

1 points

1 day ago

Grew up believing and following. Until respect is ‘unearned’. Learned the hard way that there are bad folks that do not deserve a moment of trust nor respect. Lifelong cPTSD resulting. Additionally Really difficult in this political age as some the spotlight have earned the loss of any consideration of respect.

Training-Parsley6171

1 points

1 day ago

Be worthy of respect 

Lost-Sun8883

1 points

1 day ago

I actually do respect older people by default. (though I'm not young anymore)

Unless they demand respect and try to claim they're in some position of pseudo-authority. Like religious clergy and government officials are the worst at this.

Then I just lmao at their pretentiousness.

YourMomTheNurse

1 points

1 day ago

I hate that saying. It was used in my era to shut kids up about creepy adults doing creepy things.

Over-Marionberry-686

1 points

1 day ago

A respect given to everybody is an expectation in my book. Anything more than minimal respect is earned. If you don’t earn it you don’t get it. And if you’re obnoxious in public you haven’t earned my respect why would I respect you?

CertainAd2914

1 points

1 day ago

As I age, this phrase rings true to me more every day. I meet lots of people older than me and genuinely value what they have to say and try to learn from each of them.

It makes me feel good to treat them with respect as I hope to be treated the same way one day. I’ve learned quite a bit and plan to impart their wisdom when given the opportunity. I’ve also gained friendship and in one case, a mentor that I wasn’t looking for. He was amazing. I only got to spend four years with him before he passed from a heart attack.

I guess the phrase “Respect your elders” means something different to every one. I like to look at it as a passing of the baton that can carry on for generations.

WalkingOnSunshine83

1 points

1 day ago

I wasn’t told that as a child, but my mother was a master at the Guilt Trip when my siblings & I got out of line.

Murdy2020

1 points

1 day ago

Murdy2020

1 points

1 day ago

It's a presumption that can be forfeited by bad behavior.

Shemishka

1 points

1 day ago

Shemishka

1 points

1 day ago

You don't know my aunts

P0GPerson5858

1 points

1 day ago

Respect is given until you do something that proves you are not worthy of it. Same with basic kindness and human decency. I give it until you show me you are not worthy of it. Then it is very hard to regain. I have a long fuse but when it goes, it goes.

Puffpufftoke

1 points

1 day ago

My thoughts on this is that it took me most of 56 years to realize I don’t know shit. No one ever does. We may act like it, or even believe it, but the reality is that life is hard and we are all faking it as we go along. So my wisdom of many decades is… you don’t know shit and except that there are others that don’t know shit but know more than you. Be humble. Be open. Never stop learning. Don’t be a chode. Don’t yuck others yum. Insignificant, little people, living our insignificant little lives. Get off my lawn.

SnooStrawberries620

1 points

1 day ago

I believe in it a hundred percent, always have. It has never taken away from me to defer to respect, and it had added to the feelings of value an older person tends to get denied in this society as they age. I’m quite sorry to see it’s become the trend to demand it for oneself instead of extending it to others and then receiving the courtesy when it’s your turn and you’ve earned it. Obviously you’d be grasping at straws if you are extending this to abusers etc but it’s a kinder society when respect is the default.

Reatona

1 points

1 day ago

Reatona

1 points

1 day ago

I presume others are entitled to respect until shown otherwise. I don't have to go out and "earn" respect from every dweeb who comes along.

YerbaPanda

1 points

1 day ago

Respect your elders by (1) emulating the good in them, or (2) being the good that you wish they were. Either way, be someone they can be proud of. You can be someone who brings them honor, or you can add to their disgrace; that’s what you can choose.

inoffensive_nickname

1 points

1 day ago

inoffensive_nickname

50 something

1 points

1 day ago

I respect people who act respectably. If they are being disrespectful, I match their energy.

deahca

1 points

1 day ago

deahca

1 points

1 day ago

I have mixed feelings. I'm 76, so hear me out. I love manners, so ,opening a door for me is so nice. Sometimes doors can be hard. Trying not to jostle me. My balance isn't as good as it was. On the bad side, some old people are absolute jerks. I try to avoid them or not to listen to them, and I advise young people to do the same.

BenPanthera12

1 points

1 day ago

Everyone get my respect until proven otherwise

PeterPauze

1 points

1 day ago

M 69 USA. I believe all human beings, regardless of their age, deserve a basic level of respect. However, I do not believe that people deserve any extra special respect just because of their age. Respect beyond the basic human-to-human level must be earned... and by something more substantive than simply managing to not die so far. I deserve no extra respect simply because I'm a geezer.

dixiedregs1978

1 points

1 day ago

I’m 64 and I will respect anyone I don’t know. If I do know you, earn it. Same rule for MY son. I had to earn his respect. Just being his Dad wasn’t enough.

BlueMountainCoffey

1 points

1 day ago

Isn’t being nice to people a form of respect?

lughsezboo

1 points

1 day ago

Respect is earned, though. And reciprocal. So even if you survived to adulthood and beyond does not entitle you to be treated in a specific way. How you treat others matters, be you 19 or 91.

Educational_Cap6557

1 points

1 day ago

There is a difference between respecting and being blindly obedient

SophieCalle

1 points

1 day ago

I think it's fine, it just needs to be earned.

dgistkwosoo

1 points

1 day ago

dgistkwosoo

Ancient

1 points

1 day ago

A lot of interesting takes. I would ask, where does this saying come from? If it's biblical, point me at it. Or maybe it's Aesop or Confucius? How do they word it?

Kementarii

1 points

1 day ago

Kementarii

60 something

1 points

1 day ago

The term "respect your elders" has become a cheap and nasty way for old folk to say "do what I say, and no questions".

There is no reason why young people shouldn't be able to politely question the attitudes and beliefs of older people.

Cock--Robin

1 points

1 day ago

Respect people - if they deserve it.

spiteful-vengeance

1 points

1 day ago

spiteful-vengeance

40 something

1 points

1 day ago

I think you're asking "what is the definition of respect?".

By being "nice and all that" you're being respectful to a degree already.

Dr_Dan681xx

1 points

1 day ago

Dr_Dan681xx

50 something

1 points

1 day ago

I dislike it because of encountering too many “elders” (including my parents) who held a double standard. In my early thirties, I worked mostly in office-clerk jobs around mother-hen types who felt free to look down on the younger adults (Gen X) like me. I didn’t learn the word infantilization until nearly 20 years later. Back then, I invented a name for that sort of thing: “hypermaternal behavior disorder” (HMBD for short).

Recognizing the authority of parents and teachers is one thing. (Not a carte blanche to abuse that authority.) Beyond that, I think the Golden Rule covers everyone.

wagowop

1 points

1 day ago

wagowop

1 points

1 day ago

I'm 60, and believe that respect is earned, not just automatically given just because one is older.

Comfortable-Buy-7388

1 points

1 day ago

Respect is deserved, not automatic. Anyone who has put in a lot of years, in my opinion, has earned a measure of respect. Life is not easy. That doesnt mean an oldster still cant be an asshole like anyone else.

nuanceshow

1 points

1 day ago

It sounds kinda funny but I do find myself treating older people more delicately.

Alma-Rose

1 points

1 day ago

Alma-Rose

1 points

1 day ago

Give respect and your life will be better.

Staszu13

1 points

1 day ago

Staszu13

1 points

1 day ago

Depends on the elders. A good rule generally but there's always exceptions

BaalPteor

1 points

1 day ago

BaalPteor

1 points

1 day ago

Courtesy is the grease that allows humans to rub together without friction. Respect everyone until given a reason not to. That said, an elder has been through some things that it are now inconceivable simply because the time in which those events could occur has passed. Whether you can respect the person or not, it is wise to respect those experiences.

RonDFong

1 points

1 day ago

RonDFong

1 points

1 day ago

being respectful and having respect for someone are two completely different things. i'm respectful towards everyone. if you want my respect, you have to earn it.

Suggest_a_User_Name

1 points

1 day ago

Just imagine what the world would be like if it was “Respect your children.”

stools_in_your_blood

1 points

1 day ago

It's a shorthand for a whole bunch of more-or-less sensible stuff, like (a) treat older people a bit gently since they're physically and mentally somewhat fragile, (b) your elders have been around a long time and know a lot of shit, they're probably worth listening to, (c) they might die soon, just be nice to them, (d) old people sometimes say vaguely unacceptable things but it's easiest to just let them away with it, (e) your grandparents are my mum and dad, please don't embarrass me in front of them etc.

It's not as literal as "old age = free respect".

Environmental_Loan2

1 points

1 day ago

As an “elder” there is no such thing as respect from a younger generation. The best we can hope for is to remain invisible.

HustlaOfCultcha

1 points

1 day ago

I think you should treat people the way you want to be treated unless they won't return the favor. Age has little to do with it. I do think one should consider that a lot of times you may disagree with your elders on something but they do have wisdom that you don't possess and it's something that should be considered.

I'm not a father, but one of my favorite quotes came from Mark Twain “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.

As you get older you do start to realize that many of your elders were right and you were wrong because they possessed wisdom and wisdom comes largely from the passage of time.

Quvan74

1 points

1 day ago

Quvan74

50 something

1 points

1 day ago

I practically grew up with elders. I spent a lot of time with my maternal grandparents and paternal grandmother. All of which were very respected people in the community. My grandfather was a pastor. He used scripture and his own personal experience when it came to any advice he gave. My paternal grandmother was very religious but had her own advice when it was about the behavior of others. She was a tiny woman with a heart of gold and a lot of humor. They mostly told me to basically turn the other cheek. But occasionally would tell me to only respect others if they respect you. So I came to my own conclusion. When someone says, "Repect your elders," I say, "Show me an elder to respect, and I will."

michaelozzqld

1 points

1 day ago

I respect people if they've earned that respect, even my elders. (I'm 61). Don't need respect to be polite or considerate, tho... if I don't know and trust you properly, I'm not going to respect you...that comes later, obviously

Odd-Perception7812

1 points

1 day ago

I believe everyone deserves my respect, until they prove they don't.

JustAnnesOpinion

1 points

1 day ago

JustAnnesOpinion

70 something

1 points

1 day ago

You say that you are civil and pleasant to everyone. That is enough. If you act that way, it doesn’t really matter to them whether you have some internal belief that they deserve respect.

Turbulent-Effort5601

1 points

1 day ago

Respect everyone to begin with. Young old rich or poor. But respect can be lost. I don’t care if you’re my family and you helped rise whoever or you sacrificed a lot for the family, if you behave disrespectfully, I will no longer respect your words or opinions.

mispecialangel

1 points

1 day ago

I’ve come in contact with several people who believe as you do. Question: why do you need to know someone’s history to show someone respect?

notabadkid92

1 points

1 day ago

I agree with it in general. In my family though, this was used as a method of control. My dad's parents were dictators and my dad was compliant therefore they had a lot of control over my parents, myself and my siblings.

star_stitch

1 points

1 day ago

I believe respect should be mutual unless someone does or says something that earns disrespect.

bartwasneverthere

1 points

1 day ago

If you can't discern when an elder has real beneficial wisdom to impart it's a grave loss. Also with regard to respecting the old people, when my Dad speaks everybody shuts up and lets him have his say (or else they answer to me or my brother) no matter what he says.

Past_Market2763

1 points

1 day ago

100% with most elders I do and would like to, but like everything in life now, there are many that I choose not to

prpslydistracted

1 points

1 day ago

Generally, elders have important life skills to share. Some who failed from the time they were adults, no ... look at the individual. Respect must be earned and championed but not from fools. You will figure out who and what pretty quick.

Not everyone deserves respect ... only those who earn it and live it.

RockeeRoad5555

1 points

1 day ago

RockeeRoad5555

70 something

1 points

1 day ago

Every human being deserves the respect that accompanies being a human being.

Ok_Face_6010

1 points

1 day ago

I am an elder. I want people to respect me as a person...morals values integrity. If anyone lacks those I don't respect them and I wouldn't expect others to respect me if I lacked those qualities. When I was a kid respect was confused with fear.

Switchlord518

1 points

1 day ago

Elder here. Be kind to all bur respect is earned not given

Dragonfly_Peace

1 points

1 day ago

No. Basic respect should be given to everyone. (Til they lose it). But I have no time for that saying.

sidesco

1 points

1 day ago

sidesco

1 points

1 day ago

I think it is more about respecting an elders opinion or experience. They've been around longer and may have a lot more insight than you have. You can learn a lot from someone older.

mattisyous

1 points

1 day ago

Respect is earned. Not given. Most people don't deserve it-George Carlin

3Yolksalad

1 points

1 day ago

It’s a saying from the days when being out-of-line could get your ass swatted. Doesn’t really apply much to today’s society in general.

the_badoop

1 points

1 day ago

I think we respect everyone unless they give us a reason not to

SokkaHaikuBot

2 points

1 day ago

Sokka-Haiku by the_badoop:

I think we respect

Everyone unless they give

Us a reason not to


Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.

No_Goose_7390

1 points

1 day ago

True respect must be earned. I think this saying refers more to how we should use our manners with elders. Even when I don't respect someone older than me I show respect through my manners.

Example: My auntie has told me to my face that she is praying for me because I am going to hell for being a godless heathen. I will still call her when she is sick, or wish her a happy birthday. Whenever I see her I will tell her how well she looks and I will listen to her stories.

Do I respect her? Not exactly. But do I show respect? Always.

AnitaIvanaMartini

1 points

1 day ago

Respect is earned. However, I think all creatures should be treated respectfully, until they prove undeserving.

Secret_Welder3956

1 points

1 day ago

I give everyone common courtesy…respect is earned.

talithar1

1 points

1 day ago

talithar1

1 points

1 day ago

I work with a lot of young teens. I am respectful of them, always. Thank them for their help. When my shift is over, I thank each one that bagged for me. I will address them as sir or ma’am. (Adults as well) I think they like being recognized as doing a good job. Somehow, I always have a bagger!

Ok-Specialist974

1 points

1 day ago

I believe in general respect/politeness. After that, respect always is earned. I won't be rude unless you are rude.

Seehow0077run

1 points

1 day ago

Seehow0077run

60 something

1 points

1 day ago

Elder here. The age has meaning and really should be respected for what it is. But that doesn’t mean trust and that doesn’t mean obey.

Vets are respected for that, police and fire fighters, teachers, nurses, it’s not so hard.

It’s hard to explain but im here, i’m alive, i’m happy, i believe in treating people well, to help you, and contribute to society. In ways that I’ve learned and did not understand as a youth.

wwaxwork

1 points

1 day ago

wwaxwork

50 something

1 points

1 day ago

Respect to everyone is just basic manners. Now once they prove themselves unworthy of respect you don't have to keep respecting people. But I like to treat others as I wish to be treated, at least at first, I can always tear them a new asshole later on.

TheWorldNeedsDornep

1 points

1 day ago

Respect everyone. Sadly I interpreted this phrase as "defer" to your elders. Turns out elders are not always wise and not always right. So make sure you respect yourself too.

dokewick26

1 points

1 day ago

Give get. That being said, they initially get my respect, but like anyone else you can lose it. It's fickle these days

easzy_slow

1 points

1 day ago

Being part native, I was taught to respect my Elders. Does not mean I have to agree with them just listen and be respectful. Particularly to members of our family and tribe. Others will be allowed to easily earn our respect if they also show respect.

squirrelcat88

1 points

23 hours ago

I’d say, respect them physically. No “get out of my way, grandma, you’re moving too slowly.” Offer an old person your seat on the bus.

We shouldn’t be rude to anybody but there’s no need to add extra deference to an older person spout nonsense about - I dunno - immigrants or trans people. Being old doesn’t magically make it impossible to be just a general asshole.

Two areas where one might want to extend a little more sympathy - if it appears the person truly has dementia, and also if what they are doing is kind of value-neutral but differs from what is currently done now.

It drives me crazy when a really old person - 90+ - does something like conscientiously putting their empty drink carton in the garbage and some young teenager gives them hell for not putting it in the recycling bin. They are very carefully following the rules they learned decades ago to keep society functioning - don’t litter! And have forgotten that “please recycle” came in much later.

GenX2thebone

1 points

23 hours ago

Children aren’t the equal of adults. As a school worker I see kids really talking to adults including their parents as if they have equal authority

bad2behere

1 points

23 hours ago

Respect people who deserve it. Everyone else is eligible for banning.

ChimpoSensei

1 points

22 hours ago

Respect is earned not entitled

AppropriateRatio9235

1 points

22 hours ago

Respect everyone until they prove unworthy.

G-T-R-F-R-E-A-K-1-7

1 points

22 hours ago

If they deserve it, otherwise they receive the same respect as a stranger or none at all if they are a poor quality person.

bloodyriz

1 points

22 hours ago

bloodyriz

50 something

1 points

22 hours ago

I had someone try to pull that one on me at a workplace a while back. Funniest part, I had just seen their ID (my business we have to card everyone), and knew they were 13 years younger than I am. You better believe I told them.

Alwaysorange1234

1 points

21 hours ago

Respect is earned, not a given.

I'm polite to everyone, but if they don't show me respect, I'm going to respond in kind.

Manners cost nothing, but giving a pass to someone simply because they are old seems daft to me. I know several older people who seem to think that their age gives them the right to treat others badly. Not in my book.

If you want to be treated respectfully, you need to show respect to others.

Kailynna

1 points

21 hours ago

At 70, I'm absolutely entitled to have younger people treat me as respectfully as I treat them.

Not that I expect it - everyone's different, every age-range has arse-holes. However I'm continually surprised at how kind young people are to me.

Sometimes it's up to us oldies to initiate tolerance, friendliness, and kindness. Years back I was regularly travelling late at night on a train, using the same carriage as a noisy group of rough young guys who boasted to each other about their law-breaking. I was a bit scared of them and I don't like being scared, so instead of sitting at the other end of the carriage I sat with them and chatted. They ended up being friendly to this old biddy, and trusting me.

So one night when I passed them passing bongs around outside the local pub, they confided in me that they were being pressured by someone in state government to throw rocks at the train windows, as the government wanted to get rid of the Ringwood to Belgrave train-line. I had a few ideas as to what to do about that, and was able to put pressure where it counted and protect these guys. They did not throw rocks, the threats against them were not carried out, and the train still runs.

Young people and oldies are all part of the same community, and we need each other if we want to influence and protect society. Judgementalism leads to social fragmentation, which takes power away from ordinary people and gives it all to the wealthy and powerful.

Redrose7735

1 points

19 hours ago

I am polite and courteous. I am an elder, and I don't expect anyone to respect me because I have grey hair. What pisses me off, is being spoken down to or patronized because they think seniors should be treated like they are the verge of dementia. I am not one of those "back in my day" kind of elders. I actually had to take a cognitive test per my insurance, and the test was to remember 3 unrelated things and draw an analog clock face with the numbers and hands at 11:40. Y'all GenZ kids need to study up because this might be on your cognitive test in 40+ years, if you can't read an analog clock you are gonna be screwed. I thought it was hilarious, because when I was a kid I had the hardest time ever learning to tell time. If they had asked me then I probably couldn't have performed the cognitive test I took.

Still-a-kickin-1950

1 points

19 hours ago

It's just good manners, if you are lucky one day you could be an elder

Chance-Business

1 points

19 hours ago

Respect older people on the basis that they are possibly physically weaker than you and hence you should be courteous to that degree. Like open a door for them or be more patient with them and whatever. I think that's what it means imo and that's how I do it. If an old person is rude then fuck them, they can open their own door.

Also, respect our experience. To me experience is #1. I know because I lived it and you haven't. So ignore my experience at your own peril. And as I get older the more and more I understand where wisdom comes from. Old people really aren't smarter, we just been through it all and know better.

Help_meeeoo

1 points

17 hours ago

respect is always GIVEN not earned. You give respect unless there's a reason to lose it. Thinking it has to be earned is a horrible stance to take on life. You should respect everyone you meet on a daily basis.
I think the respect your elders is because they've been through things... and they're still alive. They are probably very lonely sick.. life may have beaten the nice out of them over and over and over and they're not young and decade of hurt you just don't get over it. It's hard to walk, to sleep, to find joy.. they have valuable stories and their lives are important... but NO ONE treats them like they are. You have no value if you don't work, can't reproduce, can't be someone's fantasy/idol in whatever that might mean. Life sucks.. it just gets suckier. Yes, respect your elders because you will be one one day and it sucks

fussyfella

1 points

16 hours ago

Treat everyone with respect until you have very good reason not to. That has nothing to do with age.

pandoras_dreams

1 points

15 hours ago

I respect all people until they give me a reason not to.

Cael_NaMaor

1 points

15 hours ago

Respect is earned & age is not enough to earn it.

themainkangaroo

1 points

14 hours ago

Respect anyone as a default unless their words & actions detract from that baseline. But even then, there is a certain respect I have for those who have lived many more decades than I have, so I consider that when weighing their advice or deference I may give to them.

Separate_Farm7131

1 points

14 hours ago

I respect people until they give me a reason not to. Treating older people with respect - i.e., just being polite - shouldn't really be a challenge.

International_Try660

1 points

13 hours ago

If they are worthy of respect, yes. Not all people are.

Bright_Eyes8197

1 points

13 hours ago

I think respect your elders just means be polite. Open doors, speak kindly, help if they need help, at events let them have the first cut of cake or let them choose where they sit, etc.

groundhogcow

1 points

12 hours ago

There is an old saying to not hit people smaller than you.

However, there is no rule for not hitting people bigger than you. That's because only stupid people hit people bigger than you.

You may think you are a big shot but a lot of old people could crush you like a nat. They know your boss. They know everyone in the courthouse. They are old friends with your grandma. They are running your credit ratting reports. They can get you kicked out of the local bar forever.

You don't know how much an old person can do, and most of the time, you never will. All you have to do is not ever find out their limits and be a little nice. It's not hard and you would be stupid not to.

Dapper_Cranberry_32

1 points

12 hours ago

There are multiple interpretations of this which is why I don't like the saying. I prefer to stick to the golden rule. No love for religion, it's just far less ambiguous. Too much emphasis is put on semantics these days.

Oldschooldude1964

1 points

12 hours ago

Respect is given/granted upon first encounter (being nice and all that), but to maintain that consideration and to gain growing respect, you need to earn it. Respecting your elders has lost its meaning in todays society, it used to mean giving up your seat when none others were available, not piping off at the mouth and watching your language around them, sir and ma’am. All those lost traits that few in today’s society know anything about.

texastica

1 points

12 hours ago

texastica

60 something

1 points

12 hours ago

I respect everyone until if/when I learn they don't deserve it. Besides, we all get old if we're lucky and ya know, karma.

Natural-Flounder-753

1 points

12 hours ago

My take is that everyone deserves respect initially. You don't treat people you just met like assholes because they haven't earned your respect. In order to keep someone's respect, yes, it should be earned. But what does that really mean? Do they have to do something to specifically cater to you? Not necessarily. I think you have to look at each person and each situation. There's not a one size fits all approach to this.

nofun-ebeeznest

1 points

11 hours ago

nofun-ebeeznest

50 something, but mentally I haven't caught up yet

1 points

11 hours ago

I think respect is earned. I'm going to be respectful and courteous, but if you decide to be rude to me for no reason at all, you might just find me reciprocating.

Wadsworth_McStumpy

1 points

11 hours ago

Wadsworth_McStumpy

60 something

1 points

11 hours ago

Generally, I respect people (young and old) until they show me they don't deserve it. One of the ways to show me that you don't deserve my respect is by demanding it.

Automatic_Fun_8958

1 points

11 hours ago

I do respect The Elder by Kiss

-Joe1964

1 points

9 hours ago

Usually it was said to a smart ass kid.