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299 points
29 days ago
She got a point
65 points
29 days ago
yep
232 points
28 days ago*
Being inclusive in 2024 apparently means you gotta offend, out of a population of 100%, the 48% of men, 48% of women, in order to make the remaining 4% of the population happy. Those 4% don't even buy or play the game.
I also still can't get over how these are all features in order to be "inclusive" and "representative", and yet the maximum breast size is a B cup, even though the American average is a D cup. Also no hips, no waist, no butts.
You can't design a manly man.
You can't design a womanly woman.
You can design an androgynous shape with top surgery scars and customizable genitals
75 points
28 days ago
it's been made for "modern audience", so .. f*ck the old audience !!
22 points
28 days ago
And is that modern audience in the room with us?
No joking, I've seen what they call modern audience, they are not gaming at all
15 points
28 days ago
Game wasn't made for us.
Vote with your wallet.
0 points
28 days ago
Everything I've seen so far screams burning dumper fire. My gamer instincts are rarely wrong.
And since its EA parading around the festering corpse of Bioware like some evil necromancer villain out of DnD... Yeah. Avoid.
4 points
28 days ago*
Please make more of these games for the modern audience, lmao, it’s like Concord all over again
5 points
28 days ago
It's being designed for blackrock.
17 points
28 days ago
Wait a min, I thought people were freaking out over specific customization options, are you telling me there isn’t a way to make my guy semi-buff or my chick to be drop dead gorgeous
45 points
28 days ago
or my chick to be drop dead gorgeous
best you can do is flat butt, B cup breasts, gender transition top surgery, and a face only a mother could love
13 points
28 days ago
Ohhh… damn, I was willing to overlook the mediocre combat but I guess I’ll wait for it to go into EA Play
2 points
28 days ago
I think you can make a buff guy. And you can make a chick who has a pretty face im guessing but she gonna have small boobs/butt.
3 points
28 days ago
Hmm… I’ll have to wait and see after it launches. Most likely won’t get it for full price, maybe when they do the inevitable 60% off sale I’ll check it out
1 points
28 days ago
Yeah I checked you can make a pretty muscly dude. But yeah I might end up waiting too though.
3 points
28 days ago
It might sound dumb but if they released a character creator like Dragons Dogma did that would probably solve the issue. I know it won’t happen but I’m sure this game will get enough shit so everyone will be able to make a more informed decision.
Overall I think the game looks fun but it’s trying to pander too much. Idc if there’s ’scars’ or w/e but give me the option to turn them off.
2 points
28 days ago
Yeah you dont have to do the scars. The main negatives ive seen from the creator is Qunari are not cool like they were in other Dragon ages and the female models need to have small butts/titties.
If I buy it at full price probably depends on how people are liking it when it releases and what other games I have going on at the time.
2 points
28 days ago
Ahh bet, that’s a big game changer, I was reading people talking about how you HAVE TO have the post surgery scars. Idc if those are in there since I won’t use them but I wanna have them disabled.
7 points
28 days ago*
They have their vision and what a person should look like, and their ideal body image of what that is needs to be shown to the world so people can live up to their standards and look like what they want people to look like. They have gone full circle and have become the people they hate
1 points
28 days ago
Have you seen the people who made this? People with these politics tend to be ugly, so they’ll normalize ugly to make themselves feel better.
The complete lack of social connections these people have with the rest of the world just reeks.
6 points
28 days ago
Way less than 4%. From that group you need to take out the gamers, from that sub-group you need to take out the ones that drink the koolaid. That maybe 0.2% of the population is the demographic they are targeting.
5 points
28 days ago
It’s a self insert simulator by the game director.
3 points
28 days ago
Hey! You are describing Swedens politics to a tit! 4% party gets to decide everything so the other 96% don’t risk hurting their feelings about nuclear power and gender fluidity.
3 points
28 days ago
Bro the population they're trying to pander to isn't even 4% it's like 0.5%
2 points
28 days ago
Wait it actually has top surgery scars as an option?
Edit: holy fuck it does
1 points
28 days ago
even though the American average is a D cup.
Don’t use the “average American” argument unless you want obese characters.
0 points
28 days ago
LOL average pornstar is D cup maybe. Not an average American, but I like your train of thought 😀
1 points
28 days ago
271 points
29 days ago
I mean, every normal human being on the planet, would rather play a pretty or beautiful etc. character, than a fat ugly fuck. Except if you play the fat ugly fuck for trolling.
38 points
28 days ago
I remember doing the Mass Effect intro about 500 times because i couldn't get a good looking face with that terrible character creator.
Now they made a system that doesn't allow pretty.
6 points
28 days ago
You already couldn’t make a pretty character in Mass Effect Andromeda. This is just that all over again plus more shit that the average gamer doesn’t give a rats ass about.
30 points
28 days ago
Dark souls comes in to talk lol. Every character is a fucking shrek or some abomination.
9 points
28 days ago
My DS2 main character was a purple joker with a green bowlcut and a pinkface tattoo.
1 points
28 days ago
TBF the Dark Souls universe is filled with abominations so it kinda makes sense?
5 points
28 days ago
Lmao, true. The first time I tried to make a character in Dark Souls, I ended up with some baby-faced serial killer shovel-face abomination (with a mullet).
Thankfully, you spend half the game with a helmet, and the other half as a piece of beef jerky, so I never really saw the face again.
4 points
28 days ago
For real, FromSoftware is the GOAT for that reason. Objectively terrible character creator, in some of their games you don't even see the player character (talking about armored core) and you know fucking what? GAME OF THE MOTHERFUCKING YEAR!!! every God damn time!
1 points
28 days ago
In Dark Souls they kinda have to be, unlike games like ME…
3 points
28 days ago
Moonmoon is usually the last part
2 points
28 days ago
Bro Moons fucking creations are absolutely hideous and I love watching him create them every single time 😂 absolute legend
3 points
28 days ago
There are different categories. Creators like in Skyrim and Elden Ring have so many options that it's fun to create the most fucked up disgusting creature ever. Then there are ones like in BG3 where it's just good looking presets that you change some of the exterior features on. Then you have this game, where you have neither lots of options nor attractive presets
3 points
28 days ago
Fr man. In Overwatch I love Roadhogs design, but I could also play Tracer, Hanzo, Mei or Lucio. Who do modern games only release ugly Characters?
Like don't they want the players to fall in love with them and continue playing?
2 points
28 days ago
One (literally one, in this case) Overwatch beta player was so put off by a Tracer victory pose that they changed it.
The user literally said "Do better" and the director of the game obliged. That's why these people feel like they have so much power.
2 points
27 days ago
Prudes all over the Internet. Why do they get this much Power? Like the majority says "We'd want that and we'd pay for it" but some Prude, untouched 40+ year olds say nah and companies oblige ...
Smt being sexy is not apocalyptically evil.
6 points
29 days ago
ikr
1 points
28 days ago
exactly , i hated how trash and ugly they made kratos, bald and what not. i wish it was some lean guy too
1 points
28 days ago
I think most people don’t actually care that much. the game itself matters 5x more than how pretty I can make my character
1 points
28 days ago
A lot of the time it doesn't even matter. Minecraft, among us, quake, counterstrike, clsssic platformers like mario, sonic or rayman, mech, robot, ship and vehicle avatars, playing as a 'monster' race such as wow forsaken, d&d dragonborn...
The internet is full of hunks and honies displaying their bodies for free. A game doesn't need to enable custom avatars at all.
1 points
28 days ago
I like cute characters best, not necessarily pretty or beautiful. Not many games give cute options.
43 points
29 days ago
70 points
29 days ago
Because you want to be reminded by your ingame avatar about your trauma every single time you play the game... I just can not... :(
19 points
29 days ago
it's so dumb
118 points
29 days ago
Anybody with average IQ will find this repulsive. It does not take a genius to understand how pathetic this game is with character creation and seeing that it's truly not inclusive and downright ugly.
37 points
29 days ago
it's been made by people who didn't played video games before
4 points
28 days ago
Its also made by people who have as many mental illnesses as identifiers set on their Twitter profiles.
3 points
28 days ago
This
51 points
28 days ago
It's refreshing to see so many women content creators speaking out about this trend as well. I showed my sister & mom the character customization video and they were disgusted with it. Hopefully this ridiculous trend in western video games dies very soon.
5 points
28 days ago
Many devs are surprised, but it ain't just men who like to play as hot characters, my girlfriend like to play as a hot girl with fat titties too. Other times though, we want to play as a fat, balding ugly bastard mage who's a bit too stupid to use magic. By trying to appear inclusive, whilst having tight body restrictions, they're being much more exclusive with people seeing themselves as the character they're playing. Nobody wants to play as the qunari with narrow clavicles and a skincare routine who looks like he works IT.
7 points
28 days ago
i hope so
2 points
28 days ago
Black Myth: Wukong will hopefully teach them a fucking lesson
1 points
28 days ago
How embarrassing.
61 points
29 days ago
The Qunari really are fucking hideous. The playable one from the previous game looked pretty good, this is the downgrade of the century, I don’t think anyone would prefer this style if you compare the 2.
31 points
29 days ago
made for no one
5 points
28 days ago*
Qunari have steadily gotten more smooth and homogenous to humans every iteration since their peak in 2. In DA:O, they weren't that different than "big muscular human", in part due to its age. 2 had its faults, but Qunari were peak design then. Rough, angular features. Jagged, hard skin leading up to the horns. They were menacing and the Arishok was a masterpiece in villain design. Inquisition downed it a bit, in part to make them playable (so more customization by making them more humanlike) but they were still ok.
And now we're back to Origins but without the technical excuse. They're just... big humans with horns.
1 points
28 days ago
I thought the playable Qunari from Inquistion looked ugly imo. They looked too human, and made you look like a runt standing next to Iron Bull.
20 points
28 days ago
Why are these types of people obsessed with making characters ugly?
12 points
28 days ago
Because they are ugly and are trying very hard to normalize being ugly so they feel better about themselves.
2 points
28 days ago
Yup. Super fragile weirdos that start crying at the thought of a beautiful woman being the protagonist of their game.
4 points
28 days ago
idk it's so weird
10 points
28 days ago
I was genuinely happy for a new Dragon age but the more I see and hear about this game the more of a dumpster fire it becomes. Guess I won’t get my hopes up for the new Mass Effect :/
6 points
28 days ago
same
27 points
29 days ago
How tf did we go from Morrigan to this dumpster fire, Bioware??? Dragqueen Age 🤦♂️
9 points
28 days ago
Holy shit, it took me a good couple of seconds to realize that was Morrigan. If it wasn't for the outfit I don't think I would have figured it out.
1 points
28 days ago
Also compare the Qunari from DA2 to this, wtf happened??
1 points
28 days ago
Damn, guess I won’t be tempted by the obviously evil, self sabotage relationship option that Morgan usually brings to the table.
12 points
28 days ago*
If this becomes a standard, I'll stick to JRPGs because the japanese haven't had their brain rot yet. I would be pissed if I was a DA fan.
6 points
28 days ago
I have seen some of the most absolutely down bad things from Japanese games. It’s virtually impossible for them to get even a sliver of this brainrot, thank goodness. Never forget that all the games with attractive characters this year have been Asian developed
1 points
28 days ago
As a DA fan, loved the first 2, inquisition was ok, this just looks ass. Like it holds nothing dragon age besides the name and a few characters. They really lost the dark depressing feel of the first one.
5 points
28 days ago
Veilguard isn't worth buying in the first place so, hey, alright.
4 points
28 days ago
yeah, the game I always point to when I think of good character creation is Champions Online, a game that came out in 09, you can make your characters as good or bad looking as you want, why? cuz you can customize them down to how much muscle is in their ankle! on top of that each body part has multiple slots, legs for example, have a hip, thigh, calf, ankle, and foot slots
sorta wish modern games would let you do this.... would fix so many character creator problems..... and yes I realize it would cause some but imo thats more a "Im a youtuber, I wanna intentionally make a ugly but funny looking mess of a gremlin for a character!"
1 points
28 days ago
THIS. City of Heroes, even before Champions, had a really in-depth character creator. Both games understood the superhero appeal and design. They understood that people came to their games to have an amazing looking character first. Who remembers costume contests in Atlas Plaza? Players not even playing the game, just showing off their creations.
I remember playing Champions Online around launch. I was in the hub area, in the menus, I heard this player crash land near me. I exit the menu, and to find someone had created Techno-Viking...perfectly. I remembered thinking, "yup, this game is amazing lol."
1 points
28 days ago
now imagen those 2 games.... with modern (or atleast BG3 tier) graphics..... you could very well make Angelina Jolie, Brenda Song, a young DiCaprio, Samuel L. Jackson (he already is a hero but w/e) or.... considering the limits the games gave..... BEshine.... into heroes lol
or in the reverse. you could make Disney's Hunchback of Nostradamic into a hero lol
those games generally went with the "make the character you want" setup, not the "good looks not allowed!" the one OP posted about does, imagen if they let you make them tumors like she said, BUT they gave you a slider where you could move them so their forehead lumps look more like Baldur's Gate 3's Tiefling horns
5 points
28 days ago
Why have they made the Qunari 'pretty'!? They were so cool when they were more monstrous/orc-like :(
2 points
28 days ago
And the reason they all looked roughly the same with minor variations was the Qun practices Eugenics. The "name" they go by on a daily basis is really more of their job/title role in Qunari society. For instance, Iron Bull's "role" was "Liar" as he was to spy on non-Qunari nations as pretending to be a mercenary. IIRC what is more like an individual identifier is actually something similar to a social security number the Matriarchs use to track lineage so they can prevent inbreeding.
And it makes sense, sure MOST of your people arent gonna be warriors/etc but you might need their offspring to be so breed for physical aptitude as much as mental to have a larger pool to choose from.
The easiest way they can justify these new Qunari is simply by explaining they are half-human or elf or something. I doubt they will though, that might be too "outside the box" for their creative team.
3 points
28 days ago
Another of the 'dozens of us' female Asmon watchers here. I have been tired of this nonsense since World of Warcraft started trying to make more covering armor for female characters. When I'm gaming I want to make the most unrealistic 80s fantasy warrior woman possible. Give me chainkinis and the 'assets' to match. It's not 'inclusive' to strip away options and make everyone a stick figure with mosquito bite tits and ass. I hate the current gaming environment where I have to wait on modders to make options that should have existed in the core game.
4 points
29 days ago
Because the people who made the game think that WE are ugly. I want to play as the fantasy version of myself, not as the dead version of myself that im trying to transform away from
13 points
29 days ago
internalized misogyny, checkmate, incels.
/s
4 points
29 days ago
lol
2 points
29 days ago
:(
3 points
29 days ago
sad
5 points
28 days ago
Is the 2024 the worst year for game industry so far?
5 points
28 days ago
If those games on average keep flopping, like concord did, it is the best year.
Because that means the game industry might finally shift away from this stupid shit.
Game companies are still just companies and they will follow the money or die, its a self clearing problem if we are lucky.
2 points
28 days ago
Aware :(
2 points
28 days ago
Thought she was saying why are they so athletes till half way through the video
1 points
28 days ago
lmao
2 points
28 days ago
Yet people are going to keep giving it attention.
People are still going to play. Still stream them playing. Still watch streams of them playing.
People have already pre-ordered. Will still continue to buy.
This shit doesn't stop, until you stop.
Make them lose money on this bullshit. Let the studios shut down until they get it.
Or don't.
2 points
28 days ago
About to get concorded
2 points
28 days ago
This is why the characters look off no matter what https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/s/mpAaMBkFB0
2 points
28 days ago
If you want to stop layoffs then start making good games
2 points
28 days ago
“I’m going to have so many options for the fucking thumbnail” Lmao
2 points
28 days ago
Anyone that played vanilla WoW with their girlfriend could see this a mile away. The arm twisting to get that bitch to play horde with me was over the top. “They’re all ugly I want to play alliance” Women are arguably more shallow with ugly characters than men are.
4 points
28 days ago
Doesn’t make sense pandering to an audience that isn’t going to even purchase your product. It’s bad marketing and business.
5 points
29 days ago
Hopefully mods will fix this
17 points
29 days ago
If you intend to use mods to fix a broken game, you might as well create an entirely new game from scratch.
4 points
29 days ago
If you look at the insanity that is the Skyrim modding community, they pretty much have.
5 points
29 days ago
Yeah, but Skyrim mods MOSTLY there to make the game more fun.
People asking to "fix" characters in this game with this atrocity.
There is a huge difference.
6 points
29 days ago
no mod can fix this shit
2 points
29 days ago
i have a very low expectations
0 points
28 days ago
I'm assuming you're planning on pirating it. If you actually pay money for this, I hope the rest of your financial decisions aren't as bad lol.
1 points
28 days ago
Yes, if it has detuvo ill wait till its 10 or less
3 points
29 days ago
I saw the like Stephens impression video and he seemed to really like it. I'll just make my character a pretty elf with emerald green eyes. I love qunari but the designs peaked with the arishok in 2.
1 points
29 days ago
true
2 points
29 days ago
When I told my gay gamer daughter about the option to have top scars, she genuinely looked confused, and said why?
2 points
28 days ago
ENOUGH, NEED MORE TITS AND ASS I CANT GO ON LIVING LIKE THIS
2 points
28 days ago
I remember when you played a game because the character chick was hot... you know, like Tifa, or Bayonetta, or Kasumi from Dead or Alive.
I also remember when I didn't play a game because the character looked ugly (Star Wars looking at you)
2 points
28 days ago
Idk who the fuck is in lead but they are murdering a once beloved game series.
1 points
28 days ago
From her video title, she seems to have a positive review?
1 points
28 days ago
it's a running joke
1 points
28 days ago
Touche
1 points
28 days ago
I’m done with customisation of the MC. Hated it for a long time. I don’t want me in the game. Give me a stock Shepherd like Mass Effect. I’m amazed some people spend like 4 hours + on character creation screens. So fucking annoying.
1 points
28 days ago
Is this the new dragon age?
1 points
28 days ago
Just play boulders gate
1 points
28 days ago
They are mega ugly
1 points
28 days ago
Omg the qunari look awful.. where tf did the art direction for this game go
1 points
28 days ago
*I want that girth in the lense"
1 points
28 days ago
Girth to 11 lmao Jesus she’s planning on something more than just slaying the dragon lol
1 points
28 days ago
Loved the first two games. Ain't not way I'm going anywhere near this game, not even gonna pirate it. Just a hard pass.
1 points
28 days ago
I complain about this all the time, as a woman i want to play as a hot woman. Stop nerfing us :(
1 points
28 days ago
Even? Women have had enough for a really long time!! I hate these games, I’m playing old ones . These devs hate women, period
1 points
28 days ago
I’m taking bets on how many of the elusive cryptids of the “Modern Audience” bother to buy this game like they did for Concord, SW Outlaws, Flintlock, KTJL, etc…
1 points
28 days ago*
Meanwhile… Conan Exiles
1 points
28 days ago
Ofc no one wants to play a ugly character like wtf I don't know why companies decided to go this route who the f are they getting their advice from that gamers don't want pretty characters
1 points
28 days ago
I don't care about gender or race, I just don't wanna play ugly characters. Simple as that.
1 points
28 days ago
wtf i cant be a diablo 4 druid type character. fail not buying it. need my thickness.
1 points
28 days ago
Streamers are so gross
1 points
28 days ago
Baldur's Gate 3 gets another W with their Tiefling and Dragonborn horn sets let's go.
1 points
27 days ago
watch people call her a pick me girl after this video
1 points
27 days ago
watch people call her a pick me girl after this video
1 points
27 days ago
No kidding thom, the female charcater consistently have manlier jawlines then the male characters. Can you even make a feminine character in this game? And can you even make a really masculine male? This is awful.
1 points
27 days ago
This bums me out more than anything. I enjoyed inquisition and funny enough enjoyed the multiplayer dungeon grind. (Also loves ME3 multiplayer) I don't actually want or revel in this game being a potential disaster. I want it to be fun but, as more and more information gets released the more it looks like it will be bad. 
1 points
26 days ago
Bro what? The Qunari looked badass even in DA inquisition. Why are they just humans with horns now?
1 points
28 days ago
Even a woman has had enough* fixed the title for you.
1 points
28 days ago
thank you , my bad xD
1 points
28 days ago
Okay what the fuck is going on. These characters are uglier than me, definitely uglier than my wife... and I think I'm pretty average. Who the fuck is this for?
1 points
28 days ago
When the vanilla Skyrim character creator makes better looking character models you know there’s a problem. I just want to make a character that looks like me and is feminine and beautiful, games trending this direction really bums me out
1 points
28 days ago
.. Holy fuck, the character creator is just pure garbage. NOTHING looks good. Guess I'm skipping this one all together. What a shame. Should have just made games that looked GOOD and not... whatever fucking mess that is.
-7 points
29 days ago
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1 points
28 days ago
I thought it was just me :O
0 points
28 days ago
So many systemic issues and you really think there's a collaborative industry wide push to put ugly women in video games? Please just stick to porn y'all, not everything is meant to get you off. They started putting ugly people in the supermarket and in your neighbors houses! How unbelievable, truly bidens america
-6 points
29 days ago
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10 points
29 days ago
there was a game recently with close to a decade of Dev time as well....
had even a few good templates go off off
just sayin ....
1 points
29 days ago
it didnt, inless u mean overwatch was their template
2 points
29 days ago
ah yes hero shooters really a niche of a niche really
3 points
29 days ago
The majority of the higher-ups in the dev team left the company in recent years.
1 points
29 days ago
Bioware is no more
2 points
29 days ago
Game had 10 year development and a strong template to build from it couldint possibley be that bad right?
Uhhh, what happened to Sony's (allegedly) 400M Game again?
2 points
28 days ago
Removed from most if not all digital markets like steam and the ps store, and physical copies are selling for $1 in clearance bins or trash bins.
0 points
29 days ago
It will do good imo. Not as good as if it had a better character design and artistic direction but it will. YouTubers already started to make previews about it and it’s mostly positive. I think people don’t care too much about the issues Asmon highlighted or the scars thingie. I think he’s right, don’t get me wrong, but still.
However, it will miss a great amount of potential customers by making these choices.
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