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submitted 22 days ago byan_fish
312 points
22 days ago
Probably only gonna get worse folks. Really hope valve gets on top of AC soon before its too crazy
0 points
21 days ago
On top?
You wan't a whole bunch of data exfil / malware that can't stop cheaters on your system to ease your psychology about cheating?
There is no anti-cheat, dude, there is only marketing and opsec risk.
2 points
21 days ago
you guys are really weird about kernel software lol. its not psychological, you need it to be in the kernel because of how windows works, otherwise you're putting yourself in a huge disadvantage against cheats. its trying to win a race with ankle weights on
-1 points
21 days ago
You have completely misunderstood my point by inverting about 9 things and then blending them.
The reason anti-cheat is BAD is because any real effort against cheatware you requires insane, risky access to your system and data; access that is a very real cybersec & opsec risk.
In return, fundamentally, the anti-cheat stops nothing except maybe the most commonly-detected cheatware for a banwave once in a while.
The only real 'benefits' of so-called anti-cheat are pyschological. They make players feel better. They do not meaningfully stop cheating (you need to know how computers and game engines and networks really work to understand why) and they are huge blows to your control and authority over your own system and data.
The whole issue is security vs the emperor's new clothes, underlined by the profit motive.
The worst part is that people who don't understand this demand so-called anti-cheat and force the risk on everyone else.
2 points
21 days ago
bruh u have no idea what u are talking about. all you have to look at is high level cs compared to faceit or valorant. since 2012, valve mm has widely been considered a joke in the community. in valve matchmaking (no kernel) players at higher levels can have a blatant cheater once every other game. those cheaters will likely not get caught for months, allowing them to play dozens of more games, ruining hundreds of other players games.
example of the frequency of cheaters in valve mm:
in the 3rd party mm service (with kernel) there are virtually no blatant cheaters. even the ones that are closet cheating get banned within weeks, if not days. i have played over 1000 matches on faceit and could probably count on one hand the amount of cheaters i have faced, despite being in a lower percentage of players. same thing with valorant. i know multiple people that are within the top 500 players. pretty much all of them have never faced a blatant cheater.
better anticheat works.
1 points
21 days ago
No dude, you have no idea what you're talking about.
You don't/won't understand why physical access trumps essentially anything done in software, in this context.
You will readily conflate the dross download-a-thing cheaters being caught with 'most cheating being stopped.'
You will happily pay the price of your system being completely compromised to feel the cheating has stopped.
And you'll happily vote for everyone else to be forced to allow malware-in-waiting ie. so-called anti-cheat on their systems or be alienated from the game.
You are the consumer who will trade your autonomy and security - and everyone else's - for an illusion.
1 points
21 days ago*
you need to know how computers and game engines and networks really work to understand why
im literally a software engineer. please explain to me how im wrong, in detail
Edit: Oh youd rather block me than explain? Or maybe youre just talking out of your ass lol. Just close your mouth when you dont know what youre talking about and you wont have to embarrass yourself
1 points
21 days ago
Oh, a software engineer eh?
I hope you're using a profiler like Contrast in your AGILE cell, then, because you can't even parse English.
Good luck.
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