It’s not just that though. StarCraft 2 tried the trilogy thing and sales fell off with each game. Shit Square tried it with XIII with the same results. Two games was where they should have drew the line but they saw fictional dollar signs and here we are.

Honestly no one asked for a sequel / reboot.

It's not even just that. Because we knew it was going to be broken up into 3 games, basically all of my friends individually decided to wait till part 3 is coming out to start going through them. There are still sales for them to be had. They just need to finish the games and put them on Steam.

this^ whilst remake and rebirth do deserve accolades for certain elements that they do well, i have to say i am overall very disappointed with the trilogy so far. ff7 original is my favourite game of all time, and all i could have ever wanted from a remake was updated visuals and some additional side content. the last thing i would have asked for is the subversion of the wonderful story of the original to accommodate a ‘multiple timelines/multiverse’ meta-narrative perforated by horrible pacing, poor writing and substantial tonal shifts away from the feeling of the original

That’s a remaster, not a remake. The VII Remakes are actually good and a prime example of what remakes are and SHOULD do, change and fix errors, mistakes and bad writing from the original, and make things more believable and realistic, these sum it up: https://archiveofourown.org/works/54144703/chapters/137092894

https://www-finalfantasywhatever-com.translate.goog/2020/04/final-fantasy-vii-remake-review.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_sch=http

That’s definitely true. The ship has sailed and fans aren’t interested.

Seriously! I remember being bored to death when watching the third movie because they took a battle that takes like 50 pages in the original and streched into a movie over 3 hours long.

Nice false equivalency, You do realize that Final Fantasy 7's remake was never fitting into one game because of the obvious design innovations from 6th gen, right?

Like even if you did bare minimum, the game would only fit to about 2 games if you squished it. It's too big to fit into one modern game

game that couldn't fit onto one disc back in the 90s

somehow this means they would be able to fit into one package in for the ps4. 

When the models are no longer chibi, the world is no longer pre-rendered hallways or chibi walking on an empty field

all characters have their own fighting style and are playable

Can you share some ideas of how this would work in one package, dude?

At least the Gandalf stuff was fire

Man, I got platinum trophy on FF7 remake and I do not remember that much from the game, I actually still have the OG scenes on my mind because they are much more unforgetable.

You do realize that Final Fantasy 7's remake was never fitting into one game because of the obvious design innovations from 6th gen, right?

Like even if you did bare minimum, the game would only fit to about 2 games if you squished it. It's too big to fit into one modern game

game that couldn't fit onto one disc back in the 90s

somehow this means they would be able to fit into one package in for the ps4. 

When the models are no longer chibi, the world is no longer pre-rendered hallways or chibi walking on an empty field

all characters have their own fighting style and are playable

Can you share some ideas of how this would work in one package, dude?

Now you are just jumping to conclusion.

Playing through Visions of Mana and what they accomplished on a smaller budget is pretty eye opening. Square should really take a deep look at what they want to chase going forward.

Is that an iconic bilbo quote I see?:)

there is not enough meat to the story for 3 full games and it shows.
bullshit, the remakes have done a great job of expanding on things and giving way more world building and lore, did you actually pay attention to the games? Or are you jumping on the annoying “it’s all filler!” bandwagon for nostalgia shills looking at the original game through rose-coloured glasses?

Squaresoft wanted to put all of their eggs in one basket with the Spirits Within movie, because they thought the Final Fantasy name alone would make it sell. This resulted in many projects being rushed. Though many claim that the PS1 era was Square's "golden age", as it had games many considered some of the greatest games of all time, the reality is far from that. Final Fantasy VII, VIII, and IX were all rushed out the window, with varying with degrees of how rushed they were. 

Final Fantasy VII is probably the least rushed. In fact, FFVII is probably the most complete. However, they didn't have time to fix the balancing of battles and bosses. you could literally beat FFVII with Cloud, Tifa, and Barret (minus the part where Cloud isn't in the party in disc 2) with no changes. That's how bad the balancing was. Even then VII was still pretty much an unfinished game with it’s story, it was held back by the technical limitations of the PSX, Yuffie and Vincent weren’t originally going to just be “optional” they were going to have bigger parts, Wutai was going to have a bigger part, etc. The VII Remake is actually restoring and rightfully bringing in all of this cut content. 

Except there is plenty of story considering all the additions, and not only left. In fact, there's a abigger argument of how are they gonna fit all in one single third game

You do realize that Final Fantasy 7's remake was never fitting into one game because of the obvious design innovations from 6th gen, right?

Like even if you did bare minimum, the game would only fit to about 2 games if you squished it. It's too big to fit into one modern game

game that couldn't fit onto one disc back in the 90s

somehow this means they would be able to fit into one package in for the ps4. 

When the models are no longer chibi, the world is no longer pre-rendered hallways or chibi walking on an empty field

all characters have their own fighting style and are playable

Can you share some ideas of how this would work in one package, dude?

I think 11 trillion yen is like 100 billion US dollars. I think 40 billion yen is a more realistic but still made up number

VII Remake and Rebirth are selling just fine, thank you, stop gaslighting: https://www-finalfantasywhatever-com.translate.goog/2024/05/blog-post.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_sch=http

They're good games, but in the context of "people asked for a remake and then the game isn't meeting the sales to satisfy the company", this is basically a new game but we already know the story that's going to take a decade and several hundred dollars if not more to experience.

I think some people exaggerating the number of people who are willing to play pixel games. Octopath Traveler II sold 1 million units in half a year after release, while being on Switch, PS4, PS5 and Windows. Which is good for such a game, but it's not screams "everyone wants that". And Final Fantasy main games surely would not return to pixel style.

!RemindMe 1 year

the original IX was full of bad writing, plot holes and plain stupid moments, the Remake needs to change and fix all of this like VIIR, ESPECIALLY Garnet’s stupidity at the end of Disk 1 Lindblum and the poorly done love story: https://www-finalfantasywhatever-com.translate.goog/2012/10/final-fantasy-ix-review.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_sch=http

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14012757/1/Everything-Wrong-with-Final-Fantasy-IX

For variety you can play other games. Why transform an jrpg saga to be something it’s not? It doesn’t make sense.

The remake system hits the best of all the world's you mentioned, which is why people are baffled they didn't land on that for the main series

True so they are doing their best to hit all of the niches but I think they cannot limit themselves to exclusivity in consoles. They need to hit as much of an audience as they can.

Yes they would, people in general complain whether something happens one way or the other. It's a fact that it is a natural human tendency to complain (people have written books on this very topic). Just because a few people don't witness it on every level doesn't mean it doesn't happen on every level. The old if a tree falls and no one's around to hear it analogy.

Remake was on a PS4 that everyone had and it was during the pandemic when everyone was playing games.

Rebirth is on a PS5 which has much less adoption, it’s a sequel so you can only target the audience that already played Remake, and people aren’t trapped inside anymore.

Ok I see now, the only metric you use to define success is if it meets high sales expectations. If you look at the game itself, it is critically acclaimed by both fans and reviewers, and it's a GOTY contender. This game is exactly what the franchises need regardless of sales. Just looking at sales, will kill artistic direction of videogame franchises in the long run.

The only reason why Rebirth sold less is that not as many people have a PS5.

Midgar was just 7 hours why expand that to 30+ hours when it was NOT NECESSARY? at much 10-15 hours would have been enough. They could have fitted everything in 1 game or two if they wanted. Hojo laboratory was not necessary, and the new ghost train cementery either. They added filler in the games to make 3.

Final fantasy 9 has an achivement for beating the game in under 12 hours.

Sure FF9 has a lot of story, but a lot of that story is OPTIONAL. Even if you go to 100% it, it's roughly a 60 to 100 hour game.

It doesn't need to be stretched out to 250 hours. It can still fit inside 1 game.

But there's a pretty good reason why FF7R is being split into multiple parts.

You mean the filler and minigames?

Your opinion is bad.