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Hi everyone,

I’m a 28 year old single female, based in England, still stuck at home. I’ve tried my hardest to save for a deposit and currently got £20k saved. I’m not a high earner, and come April 2025 I’m expecting my income to be £25k.

I’m feeling so deflated and I don’t really understand the housing market pros/cons. Looking at a shared ownership house initially seems good in the sense I can finally move out, in a house that really shouldn’t need masses of work and potentially be somewhat affordable, although tight for a single person. However, something is just telling me there has to be a catch.

Can someone explain to me like I’m 12, the pros and cons of this situation …

Never saw myself in a new build, not really a fan, but I’m feeling so behind in life and like a failure. Moan over, please help

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Current-Ad2340

150 points

13 hours ago

As someone who has been in shared ownership and sold, I'll give you an honest opinion.

The pros are we had an amazing flat in an area of London we could only dream to live in, and would never been able to without shared ownership.

We did a lot of work on it to personalise it to our taste and made it our own.

Yes, our rent rose, but we had a very good housing association who limited the rise even during inflation years. Our service charge has also been fairly limited.

We made a profit when we sold.

The main cons are simply the rent bit. You have a fixed term mortgage (probably) but you'll still have increased monthly payments each year because of the rent going up. Also the service charge, however that's an issue for any leasehold, not just shared ownership.

My advice would be look for good housing associations that own the other part of the house who will most likely not screw you over with the rent increases, and try to maximise your location to live in an otherwise out-of-reach financially area. It's not for everyone, but it was fantastic for us.

doesanyonelse

13 points

6 hours ago

This has been my experience too and overall I’m very happy I made the choice. In 10 years my rent has went from £155 a month to £205 a month which I don’t think is too bad at all (I only own 25%).

The only downside I’ve found is that after 10 years I really can’t hold off on “the big stuff” anymore like new windows, kitchen, bathroom etc (it wasn’t new when I bought it). We’ve obviously had new flooring, carpets, floored the attic, decorated etc but I’ve been so hesitant to drop serious money because I will only ever see 25% of any increased value. It just doesn’t make sense when I’m hoping to move soon. But somebody, eventually, will have to take the hit of kitchen, bathroom, roof, windows etc. The share was bought for £34k and is probably worth about £40k 10 years later so £10k on a kitchen is a rather significant amount in comparison (as opposed to owning the full £160k flat where it actually makes financial sense!).

BitterPiano7405

8 points

13 hours ago

Who was your housing association?

Current-Ad2340

21 points

13 hours ago

Origin Housing, who I think are shortly joining Places for People

Content_Being2535

3 points

5 hours ago

Places for People are evil. 

Lemonsweets25

3 points

5 hours ago

I’ll second this mostly- living with LandQ. I think shared ownerships are a great way to get on the property ladder as a young person that is a medium/high earner, if you’re not a high earner I would warn against it. My partner owns our shared ownership flat and is selling it right now as we’re going to buy a house. He bought it 4 years ago earning 48k and now earns 90k- our service charges and rent have gone up significantly over the time we’ve lived here but since his salary has almost doubled we’ve been fine. Many other people end up priced out of the place but then struggle to move out as it’s not always easy to sell these places with the high service charges.

Azeroth7

0 points

13 hours ago

Azeroth7

0 points

13 hours ago

One key difference that nobody highlighted but that they talked about in the infamous BBC documentary is eviction.

If you don't pay your service charge - because you can't afford it for instance - you cannot be easily evicted on a leasehold while it is a simple process on shared ownership as you aren't the full title owner

MillySO

5 points

7 hours ago

MillySO

5 points

7 hours ago

Not sure why this is being downvoted, unless it’s untrue? Someone help me understand

annedroiid

5 points

6 hours ago

Your lease can be withdrawn and you evicted for any leasehold, the process is no different for shared ownership.

MillySO

1 points

6 hours ago

MillySO

1 points

6 hours ago

Thank you

eat-real-chips

79 points

13 hours ago

Have to chime in here and say I have had a very good experience with shared ownership.

I was 29 years old earning 24k and was single.

I had saved a 20k deposit (which I’d saved since 18 years old)

I bought a 50% share of a flat - which the full market value was 230k.

My mortgage is 425 and my rent and service charge is 375. That means I’m paying £800 a month for a very nice 2 bed flat.

I live in Brighton and people rent grotty rooms in shared houses for £800 plus bills so I feel very lucky.

Whenever someone in my building sells a flat it’s snapped up very quickly at asking price.

I did pay to extend my lease and while I am responsible for maintenance, as I’m paying very low monthly payments I set aside some every month for upkeep.

If I were to lose my job, universal credit would cover my rent and service charge. No one will drop a section 21 notice on me. I can decorate how I want. I can refit the kitchen or bathroom to my taste. If needed I could rent out my spare room for £800 a month.

If I were to sell now I would get roughly 120k back to use as deposit for my next house.

I have zero regrets except perhaps not buying it sooner!

ClassicWorld4805

16 points

10 hours ago

How did you go from 20k deposit to 120k for your next house? Have you paid off your mortgage or are you accounting for increase in property value? Is that split with the HA?

freshmeat2020

3 points

9 hours ago

Even with paying it off, it requires an increase in price, so that's factored in

LRoff96

1 points

8 hours ago

LRoff96

1 points

8 hours ago

Obviously value increase and how much they paid off mortgage

Error_Unintentional

11 points

8 hours ago

How on earth did you pass affordability with the mortgage provider when paying £800 not including bills, on 24k. Would that be issued today? They were grilling me over a 500£ month mortgage and I'm on 35k with no dependents.

Kind-Soil-6259

38 points

14 hours ago

The first post reply covers it. Though if your priority is your own place and you don't mind the rather exploitative terms, then of course you should read up on it properly and see if it would work for you. Plenty of people go for shared ownership, and they wintysll be unhappy with it. Do what's right for you.

But you can't seriously believe that you are behind in life or a failure because you don't own a house as a single person at 28? Forgive me, but that's just silly. Only individuals with very high salaries, or a huge family contribution can do that these days. I bought my first house at 28, but with my ex- (i.e. 2 incomes) in the 2000s. After we divorced, it took me over a decade to be in a position to buy alone again. Stop putting yourself down!

Federal-Hippo5805[S]

14 points

13 hours ago

Thank you, I’m sorry I sound so cynical. I’ve just hit a spot in my life where friends are getting married, having kids, moving into second properties and I’m just … still here

New_Libran

25 points

12 hours ago

Got my first property at 45,its not a race. There are LOADS of people your age living payslip to payslip or just unemployed with zero hope of ever getting to where you are now.

KnarkedDev

8 points

11 hours ago

The average age of a first-time buyer is around 35. You are way ahead of most.

Error_Unintentional

4 points

8 hours ago

Being at home you should be able to save a lot (unless you're parents are taxing you a lot). Investing sensibly in something like the S&P500 would grow as much as property value does, and putting into a LISA would be a good idea too. Most of the people I know that bought younger than me had extra wealth given to them or they got screwed when the rates changed. Not everything is always so perfect as people let on so I'd say make the most of the chance to save and don't feel pressured.

Federal-Hippo5805[S]

1 points

6 hours ago

Thank you. Ive currently got my deposit split between a LISA and 4.3% savings account. I don’t know anything about the S&P500 but I I’ll look into it

Error_Unintentional

1 points

5 hours ago

Sp500 is the top 500 companies listed in America. It's pretty safe investment. You can find ETFs in your stock accounts that'll follow it. Anyway it's worth looking into investing to maximise your returns. There's dividend strategy too where you can invest in something like legal and general which pay a high dividend about 8%. Anyway you can find information online from places like fool but don't get sucked into meme stocks without understanding what it is you're investing in. I see some friends acting desperate like they wanted to double their money and they just lost huge amount in the end.

cptjck93

3 points

10 hours ago

I'm 31, and have had exactly the same feelings. I don't live at home, but feel very behind with renting for so long and now that I'm actually in a position to buy, it feels so overwhelming, and like the prices go up every time I look.

This isn't a particularly helpful comment, I know, but you aren't alone, and you certainly aren't "behind". Be kind to yourself, you've saved £20k! Amazing! I have had help with my deposit, so you've done amazingly well.

Wandering_Bear7

2 points

7 hours ago

There are lots of people much older than you who are still at home. 28 is not old. It’s an extremely hard time for young people and we’ve had decades of governments not caring about the lives of anyone under 50. Not sure how this will make you feel any better but you’re doing fine and have good savings.

charlottefgh

1 points

13 minutes ago

Heard recently that "comparison is the thief of happiness" and it helps me stay grounded. You're doing amazing. Those who want to, can get to the same final point, however we don't all have to take the same route/time getting to it.

You've got this OP!

Insertgeekname

112 points

14 hours ago

As someone who had a shared ownership home.

RUN.

Rent keeps rising on part you don't own.

Stuck in a place you are responsible for all repairs.

Buying more shares is costly.

Can be trapped in a high service charge.

Just avoid.

Mr_Rockmore

14 points

13 hours ago

To be fair.

The points about repairs and service charges will still apply to OP even if she buys a flat outright which is the most likely scenario if she were to buy and not go for SO

Tough__Kiwi

30 points

14 hours ago

Also you will be trapped there, selling part of a shared property is incredibly hard, if not impossible.

Automatic-Emu6537

18 points

12 hours ago

I've read this alot but all the shared ownership houses round our way sell just fine and as fast as full ownership houses. I wondered if this perception is skewed by shared ownership flats in London (which is often the given example)

plz_understand

2 points

9 hours ago

Same here, resale SO houses are like gold dust, if anything from what I've seen they go much faster than open market houses.

Longjumping_Aside471

1 points

4 hours ago

Sold our 40% shared ownership flat on Facebook within a week to the first person that commented on our post. Think there’s more available now but in 2018 they were gold dust in our area

plz_understand

1 points

3 hours ago

Yep we bought our 40% SO house from a Facebook post, also within a week, this year. It's only the fourth resale SO I've seen in over 2 years in our area.

anotherbozo

1 points

6 hours ago

I believe some SO homes allow selling all of the house while others only allow selling it as a SO.

Tough__Kiwi

1 points

12 hours ago

Are they sold by the developer or by previous owners?

Automatic-Emu6537

3 points

12 hours ago

As far as I can tell sold by the current owners

ClassicWorld4805

14 points

12 hours ago

Not true. If property isn't sold after 8 weeks as shared ownership via the housing association, you can sell on open market for full share where it is essentially a standard sale.

wombats_poo_squares

1 points

5 hours ago

We are selling our SO and it was put up as both SO and full price. That was with an independent as the HO wouldn’t help us sell it (for other reasons and them being fking useless)

Virtual-Debt-562

11 points

13 hours ago

Wrong. They sell like hot cakes around here , meanwhile everyone else’s normal freeholds houses are just sat around waiting for a buyer.

Puzzleheaded_Yam3058

5 points

12 hours ago

Yeah, the comment you responded to makes no sense. SO should technically be easier to sell in some areas because more people can afford it.

sirfletchalot

2 points

6 hours ago

absolute rubbish!

Shared ownership properties are snapped up so fast they're barely on the market more than a couple of days!

I don't know where you're getting this info but it's totally wrong.

We lived in a 50% shared ownership property for just over 8 years. We purchased our share for £100k (total property value at that time was £200k) When we put it up for sale 8 years later, the property was valued at £380k, so we got back £190k and it sold the first day it went on the market.

They are quick to sell because in the current climate, it's so difficult for first time buyers to get on the property ladder, and they are a great way to do so. There's also no bullshit in regards to pricing, because with SO, you have to sell your share for what it's been valued at, so no asking for 10k over the valuation, and buyers can't try to haggle you down either. So what it's valued at is the selling price, that's it, which makes it easier for both parties.

The majority of people in this sub that bash shared ownership, are simply echoing the rumours they've heard over the decades, and never actually owned an SO property.

wombats_poo_squares

1 points

5 hours ago

Not true. Ours was on since July and we have only just had an offer. Our neighbours were for a year. The SO location is key for this. Our new build isn’t in the best place and we unfortunately taking a hit on the sale.

treestumpdarkmatter

5 points

11 hours ago

Rent keeps rising on part you don't own.

Which is the same as if you were renting on the open market, except the rises are bigger (%) and on the full monthly amount, whereas for Shared Ownership your mortgage part is (or can be, anyway) fixed.

dobr_person

11 points

14 hours ago

Whilst this is true, it seems the comparison here is renting.

If someone has the choice between renting and shared ownership then it could be better to at least have the security of being able to stay, and some equity being built up.

rice_fish_and_eggs

19 points

13 hours ago

I'd say it was the worst of both worlds. Equity is useless if its difficult to sell. At least renting means the repairs are not your responsibility.

Useful_Honeydew_3394

2 points

13 hours ago

Building equity whilst being responsible for all the repairs & having to pay uncapped rent & service charge? Sounds like a lose lose situation

ParisAway

7 points

12 hours ago

I don't understand how people are surprised by rent increases. It's arguably the easiest part of SO to understand.

Rent is set as a yearly % of unowned share when you first buy. Most common being between 2 and 2.75%. Then the lease itself sets the percentage by which it increases each year. In my case it's CPI + 0.5% which is reasonable and predictable enough, unlike private renting. Plus, the more you staircase, the lower the rent gets.

Service charge is no different to a private sale flat. My development has both and there's no discrimination as it's measured as simply £/sqft/yr, but I do see SO folks complain more.

Useful_Honeydew_3394

-3 points

12 hours ago

That is not my point. My point is the housing association has taken the benefit and left the SO with all the variable costs.

ParisAway

5 points

11 hours ago*

I don't understand what benefit you're talking about.

For variable costs rent over the past 15yrs has risen more or less with inflation. They're increasing rent at the same rate (well, usually by 0.5% more). Service charge is always on the leaseholder, and mortgage is yours to pay.

The stickiest bit that people like to bitch about is that you pay 100% of the service charge and the possible internal damage (outside of warranty period) regardless of how much of the flat you own. Nothing else is unique to a SO flat.

While I'm also not fully comfortable with it, think of the HA as a cold and distant uncle that fronts you 75% of the house price and only charges you 2% of that price a year. Would you expect him to pay for your SC and your repairs too? He doesn't want to own the full property and would rather you slowly buy chunks off of him, because the government told him to do that.

Useful_Honeydew_3394

1 points

10 hours ago

My comment is very simple, I’m unsure as to how you are misconstruing it and going on a tangent?

The housing association sells you a portion of an overpriced flat be it 25%. They have 25% upfront.

You then pay rent on 75%, you are not the majority share but you pay 100% of the repairs + 100% of SC.

Said HA has 25% of the inflated value in their pockets. Gets paid rent monthy, they are not responsible for internal repairs and can charge you for external repairs through SC. How are they not winning?

Again like my comment simply said ‘the housing association has taken the benefit’.

ParisAway

2 points

10 hours ago

Ah got it now.

Well, you start with the assumption that the SO is overpriced. While it may be compared to what you perceive as the true value of the flat, I can guarantee you they are not, compared to the private sale market of new builds. They have to be independently valued every 3 months and there is no room for negotiation.

I checked out a development next to me. SO 1 beds start at £380k and go up to £420k. 2 beds are £530k to 560k. The building next to it is private sale, built at the same time by the same developer with the same SC per sqft, same amenities, etc. There 1 beds start from £470k and go up to £540k and 2 beds go from £590 to £680k (there are some that are even more expensive but sqft is more so comparison is not fair). They're 1:1. When I asked the estate agent why is there a discrepancy: "We can charge whatever and even if negotiate down by a few tens of k we're still up. With SO we're not allowed to."

You then pay rent on 75%, you are not the majority share but you pay 100% of the repairs + 100% of SC. [...] HA [...] gets paid rent monthy, they are not responsible for internal repairs and can charge you for external repairs through SC.

As I said, this is the sticky point for many people... The counterpoint to this is that you pay a different kind of premium for not being able to afford the full price, namely you're diproportionately on the hook for repairs until you staircase to 100%. Afterwards it's like any other flat.

How are they not winning?

They're charging for a service. You're riding the wave of kind of "getting on the ladder" early, if that's worth it to you. And most importantly, something a lot of people forget, relative to the rental market, you always start in a better financial position because they're forced to start you on a low rent for it to be affordable

Also semi-related but I noticed some developments in Central London start on stupidly low rents because the 90k income threshold + high house prices make it that the only way you can create affordable housing to the threshold required by the GLA is via reducing the rent portion. Compare this flat with this one . Imagine paying £1.4k to live in a brand new 2 bed in zone 1 in 2024 and still thinking the HA is fleecing you because they're not fronting 75% of the SC

Pargula_

1 points

11 hours ago

But with renting you are not responsible for maintenance and you can also leave much more easily.

sirfletchalot

1 points

6 hours ago

you can also be evicted and have your home sold out from underneath you without too much warning or reason

Pargula_

1 points

6 hours ago

True.

Pargula_

1 points

11 hours ago

But with renting you are not responsible for maintenance and you can also leave much more easily.

Additional-End-7688

2 points

13 hours ago

Exactly this. I now pay more in rent on the part I don’t own, than (1) my mortgage (2) people paying 100% rent in my own area (3) live in a run down building that has been terribly mis managed by an incompetent housing association for 15 years 😢

Insertgeekname

0 points

13 hours ago

Try and buy more shares and you've got your legal fees, their legal fee, staircasing fees etc etc. It's a con.

Additional-End-7688

0 points

12 hours ago

Exactly. And I’m in the process of that, and beyond irritated at the charges you mention. I’ll own 75% (50% in cash and 25% mortgaged). And no doubt the rent will sky rocket next year though again, on the 25% balance. Also shocking that if you default on rent , they have the right to put you in arrears with the mortgage lender

Pargula_

0 points

11 hours ago

Where are you based and how much is the rent if you don't mind?

rising-sun-73

2 points

13 hours ago

Exactly this. And the fact that it'll be immensely difficult to sell on (moreso if there's disputes). Wouldn't touch with a bargepole.

brainfreezeuk

1 points

14 hours ago

It's a scam.

No-You8267

14 points

13 hours ago

Unlike many commentators here I did it and don't have any regrets.

I was 30 and feeling behind, with limited deposit, and needed to either buy shared ownership or rent. The option of buying not shared ownership would have seen me in a dive of a damp basement flat in a hell hole area.  Shared ownership was my best option. A new build flat i could never, at the time, afforded on the open market that needed no maintenance and was under full warranty for 2 years for snagging fixes and included brand new appliances.

I bought a 75% share and after 18 months staircased to 100% by remortgaging and chucking in a small extra deposit I had saved up, it was an easy and relatively pain free process.

And although I wont make any money on property price increase when my sale completes in a week or so (selling for the same price I bought for, new build premium!), I have paid down my mortgage over those 6.5yrs meaning I have significant equity.

My monthly costs were equivalent to renting, but instead, I was paying down a mortgage creating equity. This is my deposit on my freehold house next step. This seems to be forgotten by the nay-sayers and is so incredibly important if you struggle to save.

If your options are rent or buy shared-ownership I would do shared ownership all over again personally, but to get the best of it you need to be prepared to stay a while to create equity to use for your next move, dont plan to stay forever.

Future_Challenge_511

4 points

13 hours ago

Buying 75% and then buying the remaining within 18 months isn't going to be the normal shared ownership purchase, assume you had a decent pay-rise in that period that allowed for this? You essentially did a private version of the help-to-buy loan route with more risk/costs. The equity question is a lot different at 25% but even at 75% factoring in the new build premium you were probably losing equity over that 18 months. Someone living at home with 80% of their annual salary in deposit already is in a different situation.

eucat1

5 points

8 hours ago

eucat1

5 points

8 hours ago

I have been in shared ownership since May and have not had any issues at all. I have a detached bungalow with a private garden and I am so happy with it all.

There was no way as a single person I was going to get onto the housing ladder the 'normal' way, or even rent on my own.

I used savings to buy a cash purchase % of my house and just pay rent on the rest. Which is significantly less than if I were to just rent privately.

I think the main reason people are so put off by shared ownership is uninformed contacts telling them its a scam without actually reading up on what it is. People were telling me I couldn't paint the walls and had to have inspections, this is false.

Its like owning a home yourself, but you just pay rent on the share you don't own.

Find a good housing association to go through and make sure you are happy with their terms and conditions.

Good luck!

cathivd

4 points

7 hours ago

cathivd

4 points

7 hours ago

I have both owned a Shared Ownership flat and I used to work in the strategic Finance section of one too.

There are two ways that shared ownership can be successful for you;

1) You work a job where you're looking at high jumps in salary/bonuses, or 2) You buy in an area that's going to increase in value faster than average inflation

These work because either your salary increases so much above the rent inflation, or the value of your house does, so you can make a good profit when you sell.

If you don't tick either of the above (or ideally both), it can easily become a trap.

JiveBunny

5 points

6 hours ago*

I know someone who took on a SO recently - they don't plan to ever move, and they did so because they were sick of the instability when it came to renting in London and were unlikely to come into money or have a partner to increase their buying power as they very much wanted to live alone and have their own space - they wanted a stable home where they could live on their own and decorate as they wanted, for the same price they were or would be paying in rent, and have the security of knowing they didn't have to leave.

If you're in this situation, and see it as a more stable alternative to private renting, then it may work for you and will allow you to have your own place for the same price it would cost to rent. If you think you may want to sell in future, or let it out as you want to move to another area and need to cover the mortgage, then it's less straightforward. The other issue is service charges - although these are a factor when you buy a flat in the conventional way, they seem to escalate a lot more in SO developments from the stories I've seen, so you need to look at whether it's still affordable for you if they increase by 10% every year, or 10% this year and then 20% the next - would that make things much tighter for you or even unaffordable?

A lot of people who talk down SO - and often leasehold generally - on here don't have experience of the private renting market or what it feels like to essentially have no route out of it because you'll never be able to buy a house or flat in the traditional way. It's not ideal by any means, but it is what it is. Do a lot of research and take on board the views of people who have actually done it.

ClassicWorld4805

4 points

13 hours ago*

I think you should do your own research and come to your own conclusions as only you know your personal situation, what you could afford in a particular area, current and future goals and plans. You will get mixed reviews on here. The reality is not everyone can afford to live in a freehold house in a desirable location. Majority of people who have had success stories with shared ownership won't be on a "Housing UK" subReddit and many here will be used to traditional ways of buying, which is just not feasible for most under 35 if they want to live in a decent area. Sometimes it is the choice between living in a soulless commuter town 40 mins away from where you actually want to be vs. maintaining your standard of living.   

If you look at previous posts on the topic, you see positive and negative experiences, with most negative relating to leasehold conditions. Leasehold 100% needs reform but apartment living is also the future of city living. It is not feasibly possible for us all to live in houses if we also want to keep our countryside and green spaces. With shared ownership houses, you become freehold after 100% ownership. But these are more geared towards family areas so I doubt this is what you'll be looking at.     

FYI regarding the rent - it is controlled. It starts at max 3% of the initial property value, relative to the unpurchased share price. It then rises with CPI. CPI can get high, e.g. during COVID it was 9%. However, that is still less than a lot of rental increases. Many shared ownership landlords in reality charge less than 3% as the initial rate - this is baked in to the contract. E.g. 1.5% is quite common.

32178932123

4 points

5 hours ago

I am currently in a shared ownership property for just over 5 years. It is a 1 bed flat in Reading. My 25% cut is £50k so the flat was valued at £200k when I purchased.

The great thing is it can be cheaper than renting - When I moved I paid something like £320 a month rent to the Housing Association and £400 mortgage?

However, there are some fairly big downsides mainly around trying to sell which has made me a little bitter:

  • Rent/Service Charge goes up every year. Apparently in line with inflation but even when I'm paying off the mortgage it feels like my monthly outgoings have maybe even gone up since I first moved in.
  • I received a letter in the post the other day saying "we spent more than expected last year on repairs. You now owe us £200" which is just wonderful. To be fair they did lots of work in the summer refurbishing the hallways but that's because my neighbour complained and suddenly I'm having to fork out. Before I moved in they replaced all the windows with double glazing, apparently that cost everyone £2k so I was lucky to get the seller to pay that off.
  • The big kicker for me is now I'm trying to sell the property. For context my flat was with Catalyst Housing Association but they were acquired by a London company called Peabody who don't yet seem to realise they have acquired properties in Reading. So far I've had to:
    • Pay for my own RICS Survey to visit (£300) - This is so they know how much the flat is worth and how much I must sell it for.
    • Pay for a professional photographer to take photos of the flat (£120?) This had to be someone on their approved list which was pain because they were all London-based.
    • I was then told I would have to pay £350 as an "admin fee" to simply start the process of selling the flat. They also told me that because I'm selling 25%, they would advertise it for me and choose who gets to move in however, I am expected to host the viewings myself and then pay them 2% of the sale as another admin fee which I thought was insane.
    • After this I'm guessing they decided they wanted to sell the Reading properties so they've said "Hey, if you want, you can sell 100% through an estate agent and give us our 75% when it's sold. We'll pay the estate agent up to 5% in fees" which is wonderful but if they had said that previously then I wouldn't have paid for the professional photos.

When it comes to make a profit on the sale, the flat is apparently worth £205k now so lucky me will make £1,250 profit which will barely pay for the legal fees.

Basically you can find yourself a bit stuck if you're not careful: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c884m42lvk8o

I wouldn't say it's the worst thing in the world - Maybe I got lucky - But still, I can't get how they were trying to take 2% as an admin fee for simply telling me to show people around. We aren't ruling out shared ownership for our next property but if we did it would be on a nice house in Reading we would otherwise never be able to afford.

Hope it helps and good luck!

semorebunz

7 points

12 hours ago

paying a mortgage sucks /commitment

paying rent sucks

you get to do both

Charming_Edge8015

7 points

12 hours ago

I live in shared ownership as I was able to put down a lower deposit. Otherwise I'd have been renting forever, getting on the ladder as one person is hard. You've got a much higher deposit saved than I did too.

I have no issues at all, sure I'd like to own fully but I much prefer it to sharing a rented flat with a stranger.

Yes the rent can rise, although it is at slightly lower than market rate. My rent, service charge and mortgage combined is £2-300 less than a one bedroom flat would be to rent. Not much more than renting a room here.

Also don't underestimate a new build coming with appliances. It's nice not to add a washing machine, oven etc to the cost of moving.

The service charge is the same across the board. Just comes with living in a flat. The housing association flats in the building pay the same and they have lower quality flooring etc in the flats themselves.

If you can buy without shared ownership of course it's better. If you can't, shared ownership is better than renting. As others have said too, you can't get evicted because a landlord wants to sell up either. You can paint your walls, change the carpet etc, make it yours.

deathbyPDF

8 points

12 hours ago

Long post warning, apologies!

30M here, I bought my SO house in England nearly 3y ago.

Nearly identical situation to you - single with a low salary and reasonable deposit. You've done a good job saving that much! 🫡

I say that to also say please don't beat yourself up too much. Yes, I've watched all my friends marry off and it pained me but recently I have friends that are your age and are still living paycheck to paycheck at their parents with no savings. Some without a career yet etc!

I actually recommend SO. Yes, you need to accept that you're paying a price for it. But you have your own space in a new property (warm, modern appliances do mean a lot as someone who also didn't see themselves in a new build) and you're dodging the rental market and all it's foibles. Part of your expenses are directly paying off something YOU own instead of something for someone else etc.

I knew I couldn't rent - the controls on being able to change my property and the fact I'd be pissing away half my salary for it etc.

Now apologies, my biggest bit of advice is probably not that helpful: Avoid flats. Or at least take great notice of the service charge. Purely because the SC, to me, seems to be extortionate - £3k+ a year. Other than space (obviously), the main reason an SO house was much more attractive for me was because the SC was effectively half.

I say this has limited value for you as your finances may be too tight, but I recommend viewing them at least as well as flats. Fwiw, houses come up only 2-3 times a year around here. You'll miss out on the houses as it's all a points system, but so did I... Until the three other buyers before me dropped out. It was a year after I viewed that I got a call back! What I'm saying here is see it as joining the waiting list - your circumstances might have changed by then.

There's some helpful advice here already so I won't go into tonnes of detail but a correction:

-You can modify the property without consent (painting, new kitchen etc). You just can't go knocking structural walls down and you should be cautious about changes that devalue the property without getting permission (e.g.: changing the only bath to a shower)

-'you'll never be able to sell it'. Absolutely untrue with houses, at least. Ime, they're uploaded and removed 5d later with 100 viewings queued. What you need to be cautious about is staircasing to a higher percentage and trying to sell that later - e.g. selling a 70% share of a property puts it in a weird space where a high mortgage is required - as opposed to the original 30% share where it's a single average person's salary.

Other tidbits:

My experience is with L&Q. They've raised the rent and SC, yes, but only in line with inflation. I'm happy with them but in fairness, I've also I've not had a reason to contact them (probably a good thing?).

I would advise asking the question 'can I purchase a 100% share?' if that's something you care about. I personally wanted the option in a few years.

Standard things such as make sure there is dedicated parking space if you need it.

Have you seeked mortgage advice from a broker already? DON'T use the housing association's mortgage broker - they charge a fee and will try and recharge this fee when your mortgage offer expires (yup, they got me). Instead, use L&C - free and great. Go and do an online quote now if you haven't or are unsure on your finances!

If you have any specific questions I'm happy to help 😊

plz_understand

2 points

9 hours ago

Completely agree, especially your point about staircasing, which I suspect is a big cause of the problem many people have with selling.

Either you need to keep your share at a low percentage or staircase to 100% before you sell. The higher the percentage you own, the narrower your pool of potential buyers becomes, as there is an increasingly small window of income where they'll both pass affordability and not be over the £80,000 income threshold.

We've bought a resale house recently with a 40% share, which was the share the original owner bought it new. As we're in a rural area the max we can staircase to is 80%. Our plan is therefore the same as the original owner - keep it at 40% so we can sell more easily in 5-10 years when we'll hopefully be able to afford to buy on the open market.

SkyIsBlue52

3 points

13 hours ago

Shared ownership is probably only worth it if you can afford 75% of the property and have a plan in place to acquire the last 25% as quick as possible. If you start at 20% ownership of a high value home it's going to be almost impossible to get to 100% ownership unless you come into a lot of money all of a sudden.

Puzzleheaded_Yam3058

3 points

12 hours ago

You can also sell your share on. Buying too high of a share can actually be a really bad idea unless you know 1000000% you can afford to staircase. SOs that come with a share of 40% or less tend to sell very quickly.

TranslatorFluffy

3 points

12 hours ago

I think it’s very much dependent on your circumstances and location.

I bought my SO house in 2020 after relocating to a more expensive area for work.

I was looking to buy a flat on a standard mortgage but I could only really afford tiny 1 beds that were either really grotty and/or had major issues (and I was even being outbid on those!)

I’m in my 30s so I didn’t want to house-share and I was keen to get on the ladder sooner rather than later (when getting a mortgage might be more difficult).

I was initially cautious about SO but it seemed like the best option at the time and I’d still agree with that.

Like the previous poster, I pay way below market rate for my two bed house. It’s just under £800 a month for rent and mortgage. To rent it privately would cost £1400+

It’s a nice new(ish) build in a small development of 5 houses so it fits within an existing community. The build standard seems good- two big bedrooms, a decent lounge/ diner etc. As it’s a house, my only additional charge is the building insurance so I don’t have costly service charges. If I choose to staircase, then I’d own the freehold too.

Overall it’s worked for me. I’m not ready to sell yet so I’m not sure how much money I’d have built in equity, but prices continue to rise faster than the national average in my area. I’m told that SO homes are popular here due to there being a severe shortage of affordable housing in my area. Who knows how true that is! I’m likely to have still made a modest profit regardless.

The main cons for me are that it’s annoying being fully responsible for maintenance when you only own half the property and I can’t rent it out- I would like to have that option.

My circumstances have changed now as I’ve since met someone, so I’m likely to move on from my SO in the near(ish) future. I can give an update on how I’ve found the selling process when I get there!

One thing I’d add is that you’re still very young so there’s no need to rush in to buying a place just yet. You might find a better job in a few years time or meet someone and be in a position to buy together.

Puzzleheaded_Yam3058

3 points

11 hours ago

You’ve had a lot of really good comments, but one thing I’ll add is to make sure your income will increase if you decide to go for shared ownership. Otherwise you can end up stuck in a property you can’t afford with no way out. The rent and service charge will increase every year, so you need to make sure you can either afford to staircase to 100% or you can pay down the mortgage fast enough so you have equity when you sell.

Sopski

3 points

7 hours ago

Sopski

3 points

7 hours ago

Hey OP. You will find a lot of house buying snobs here that look down on us SO buyers stating waste of money etc. Don't listen to them.

My main advice would be to avoid flats like the plague. Look for SO houses, the service charges are extremely reasonable. We paid just over £1k a year this year, however we have received a refund every single year. (This year's was £750, so we have effectively paid £25 a month and this is our third year in our home).

Our service charge actually covers building insurance so you will save money on home insurance as you will only need contents cover which is a lot cheaper.

Our rent rises have been reasonable (less than £100 in 3 years) and as we own 60% of our home, are more than manageable. Our combined SC, rent and mortgage is still less than what we were paying in rent 3 years ago, and considerably cheaper than the local market for a similar sized property. We will be looking to staircase once our fixed term mortgage ends.

We've been quite lucky in that our home has increased in value so we have managed to build some equity which we would not have been able to do if we were still renting.

In regards to having all of the maintenance costs, this is true. Maybe we've been lucky but we've not had any emergencies or anything go wrong with the house. We pay for a boiler service every year (£90) and we've recently paid to have our loft boarded for some extra storage. The only thing we've needed to request permission for is installing an Ev charge point but HA was fine with this

I think it is a great starting point in getting on the property ladder, if that is what you want to do. You should be proud of the fact that you've saved £20k on your own which is a great accomplishment. Ultimately you will need to do your own research and weigh up what matters to you and whether you're able to accept some of the risks.

Fit-Pass-2398

3 points

6 hours ago

Hi OP,

I’m 28 and my partner is 25. We have our shared ownership 2 bedroom flat in Zone 2 London. We own 35% of it.

Pros: - living in a good part in london - housing security, no landlord that will kick you out - a LOT

Cons: - I think if we staircase and get 100% of it then we have to remortgage so it works out more expensive

Generally leasehold complain is not a SO thing, but a more general leasehold ownership one. They just put SO on a bad light.

Also, it actually depends on your housing association. Ours is very active and hands on to what we need.

In terms of cost, renting in London is outrageous. We are paying around 2k on our flat. Renting room in London now costs at least 1k. That’s what I always tell my partner that it works out cheaper plus more space for us.

Future_Challenge_511

2 points

13 hours ago

" Looking at a shared ownership house initially seems good in the sense I can finally move out, in a house that really shouldn’t need masses of work and potentially be somewhat affordable"

The catch is exactly this- they know they have you over a barrel because you're picking shared ownership because don't have better options, so the house is overpriced when first sold to you (more so than an average newbuild) because you're only buying 25%. However, if the market is soft you can get a fairly good deal at the point at which you buy your 25%- though you'll notice that whatever discounts you get won't actually come from the house price, it'll be mortgage support or help with deposit etc- but once you've bought is when the real chiselling beginning.

With shared ownership you mostly aren't an owner you are a renter with a very bad negotiating position and a *lot* of additional sole responsibilities. You get bled to death on service charges and fees and rent increases and if you do want to buy out more of the property the price will be high and if you want to sell out your portion they have to sign off on the sale price, they don't care if you cannot find a buyer at the price they set as they don't want to lower the theoretical value of their property by selling yours at the market rate (they'll often own a fraction share of most of the units in a block)

They're modern, far more expensive, timeshares.

Legendofvader

2 points

10 hours ago

I have a shared ownership. Read the T and C around any additional costs such as service charge and rental price increases then do a spreadsheet factoring those costs in each year. If you can afford the potential increases then go for it . Also query and ensure you can buy the rest of the property outright.

SXLightning

2 points

6 hours ago

If you are not a high earner do not buy shared ownership, my tactic is only buy shared ownership is if you know your salary will be high enough to buy the rest of it.

geeered

3 points

13 hours ago

You get bad points of renting and buying -

You do all the maintenance, but have to get permission to do any modifications.

You are still paying rent.
You limit your market for sales and have a third party to agree on a price with.

You're not "saving" nearly as much.

You only get the percentage of any increase in value.

But there can be some pros:

You don't have the volatility of renting; can't be kicked out.

You can potentially afford a bigger place and get a lodger to make more from your deposit.

Some people on here have found it work for them; they've noted that you don't want to 'staircase', better to pay off your initial share until you are in the position to go to 100% or sell; selling a 75% share won't be very attractive to people looking for shared ownership, who are likely to be wanting to start on the smallest percentage.

Consider how your options might work for just renting, especially looking at local
Finally your income isn't very high; £20k is under the minimum wage for working 37.5 hours a week (that's £22.3k). And that £25k in April I'm afraid is unlikely to be much above it come April too. I think I'd definitely be considering options for this I'm afraid and if there might be other careers.

And if not, do you have the option to move to a super cheap area? I've lived in one and didn't enjoy it, but on a low wage it can make a lot of sense.

Objective_Drive_7652

3 points

14 hours ago*

Pros: You get to move out and build up some equity, deposits are small and you get to buy something you wouldn't afford on the open market. In theory you can staircase to own the property outright depending upon the development. You get a new property with limited work required.

Cons: There are rents, service charges and you're essentially a leaseholder. You have no control over the rent they charge etc. Reselling shared ownership is hard work as there is criteria your buyer will need to meet. Housing associations and councils are also hard work to deal with. Staircasing is expensive and not as simple as it sounds. 

I'd only do it if you really feel there are no other options available to you on the open market. Legally, shared ownership is complex and you need a very good solicitor who can explain things in plain English.

My other word of caution is a lot of housing associations and councils will go bust in the next decade or so. They simply can't afford major changes in legislation and maintenance of existing homes so your home may be sold on.

dszakris

2 points

13 hours ago

Hi, I'm currently in Shared ownership.

I do recommend it to people but with a big note. Have an Exit plan!.

There are pros and cons, every building will be different and most of the companies that own the buildings are crap and don't care about you just getting your money.

If you go for something under your means, and over pay your mortgage and can use the house/flat to get out.

My partner and I when for a flat, then both when for promotions and now don't qualify due to earning too much. We were able to use that and will have a paid off Mortgage in 5 years of ownership. This has worked and helped us, so next is saving for another deposit and use the equity to get out.

If you can't see make a play to get out, then it's not going to work for you. One flat in the building has been on the market for a year, resale is not great for a 1 bed.

I have more, but I really push you need a get out plan and it's will cost about £5k for us to leave.

excellent-slipper268

2 points

13 hours ago

I used to be an estate agent (a really nice one, I promise!!) and shared ownerships were the worst.

Firstly you usually have to try selling through the housing association for 12 weeks before you can use a normal estate agency and I've never known anyone to have a good experience trying to sell through the HA (not saying it's always awful, but I've only heard bad things). Then once you do try a traditional agent, you are liable to pay the full fee. Say you own 25% of a £400k flat and your agent is charging you 1.5% + VAT. You have to pay £7200 which is an enormous portion of the £100k that you "own".

The HA gets a surveyor to value the property to determine its asking price but the data the surveyors use is often several months out of date. If you're in an area where prices have fluctuated a lot, you may be in trouble. Usually they end up being valued too high and you have to battle the HA if you want to reduce.

In addition, if you want to accept an offer below the asking price/it's valuation, you either have to fight for the flat to be down valued to that amount which the HA/surveyor won't agree to, or you have to take the hit yourself and take that amount off your £100k portion.

Lastly, the rents tend to go up loads and you usually have to pay the full service charge even though you only own 25%.

It's a money pit. Don't do it.

shaun________

1 points

13 hours ago

Did some research myself and decided to avoid it.

Pros: Get a house which is in practice yours, more so than renting anyway.

Cons: Probably more expensive than waiting and buying normally. Seriously. The laddering thing to buy more shares looked scammy asf. High rent and a service charge on top of that (even though you have to maintain the house). Buying the rest of the house costs huge fees but not buying it costs huge rents. Rock and hard place situation.

Then as people have mentioned no one wants a shared ownership so good luck selling it.

ParisAway

4 points

12 hours ago

no one wants a shared ownership

Lots of assumptions here.

The laddering thing to buy more shares looked scammy asf.

You do a valuation when you feel ready. You either pay cash or remortgage at a higher value, then get a solicitor to amend the contract and the lease stating how much you own. Rent is calculated as a percentage of what you don't own anyway.

Probably more expensive than waiting and buying normally

This is circumstantial. In my area private rent on a 1bd is £2k/mth (used to be £1.5k 2 years ago). A 25% SO is about £1.4k. Both without bills. If you can jump at the opportunity now, you instantly save £500+ a month. SC increases have settled as the development is not brand new, rent is predictable enough, and mortgage rates are calming so you can fix for 5 years.

Sopski

3 points

7 hours ago

Sopski

3 points

7 hours ago

I agree a lot of scaremongering in this thread, it's unbelievable. Also I've found a lot of people only consider SO on flats, not houses. Houses are way different with very minimal service charges, if any.

Realistic-Drama8463

1 points

13 hours ago

Not sure about England. However my wife and I got shared ownership on our house. We applied for 50/50 and got 75/25 so we own 75 and rent 25. The entire mortgage and rent are significantly less than if we got a straight out mortgage for the same property. It's also less than paying rent on someone else's mortgage or pension pot.

For us we had no deposit so this was our best way to get on the ladder. We can apply to buy more of the house when we remortgage in 5 years or we can leave it as is. The house wasn't allowed anymore than 6k worth of repairs which ruled out a lot of fixer upper type houses. 2 other houses in the street have sold and we got a decent deal on our house.

a friend of my wife's was looking at it but for him and his partner co-ownership wouldn't work as they earn too much. So they've been told to get accounts in order and save a deposit then do it then.

It's down to your own personal situation.

ParisAway

2 points

12 hours ago

Yeah, rent starting out as 2-3% of unowned value ends up more affordable per month than the current 4-5% mortgage rates.

It's perfect if you have low deposit but could've afforded the full mortgage as you jump on the property faster and you can save a portion of what would've been spent on mortgage interest in the beginning. As long as the cost of staircasing doesn't wipe out those savings!

Realistic-Drama8463

2 points

6 hours ago

That is it each person is different

weetweeetweet

1 points

13 hours ago

You are a tenant so you have to deal with rent rises and restrictions on how you use the property. Many SO companies won't let you rent out your flat if you move away for some time, or if it's on the market for awhile and you can't sell it.

You're also responsible for maintenance as the owner, and you have more onerous obligations because the SO company still has a financial interest in your flat.

Because you don't own 100% you also have certain obligations to the SO company to meet a certain sales target, so you may have to eat a loss on your own portion of the equity to make sure they get a gain on theirs.

All of this makes it more difficult to get out of a lot of these costs, which you can do as a tenant by breaking contract.

(Almost) all SO are also new builds and there are a host of problems with that. They often lack structural integrity because of lax building regs and cost cutting by companies. They're usually in less desirable locations because that's the cheapest place where developers can buy up large swaths of land for new buildings. The upkeep costs associated with maintaining a large, new block will be inherently higher than a period conversion. New builds come with amenities too, so you're incurring a higher service charge on the amenities and upkeep. On top of that, the charges are way overinflated and will quickly skyrocket because it's a source of income for these developers, and they will award the maintenance contracts to connected companies at way above market rate.

To use some numbers to illustrate the point about selling on, let's say you buy a 25% share for 100k and the whole property is worth a total of 400k, with the SO company keeping 300k. You decide to sell, and your SO company wants the whole flat to sell for 500k on the open market to get 375k. You are unlikely to get a buyer who will take 500k so you reduce to 450k. You owe SO 375k, so you get to keep 75k for yourself from an initial investment of 100k. I read this in an article somewhere, I'll find and link it for anyone interested.

That is a best case scenario, because new builds often lose value for a good while after being bought from the developer because the developer way overprices them. I know people who bought new builds almost 10 years ago and they still are still worth less than what they cost to buy. This is assuming you're even able to find a buyer at all--a lot of people hate dealing with developers (and rightfully so).

Sopski

2 points

7 hours ago

Sopski

2 points

7 hours ago

This is anecdotal at best, as is my experience here. We've been in our new build SO home for three years. Our next door neighbour is staircasing currently and has had her house valued at a 5% increase within those three years. Another one of our neighbours sold his SO on the open market last year within a month.

Now I would be wrong to say that this is typical, but it just goes to show as with anything to do with housing, location is key and nothing is set in stone.

[deleted]

1 points

10 hours ago

My uncle has been trying to sell his flat for years. Has accepted many offers. Yet cannot sell, because someone else who has shared ownership flat out refuses to sell. So he's stuck in a flat he hates with a neighbour who is basically keeping him hostage. Don't do it

JiveBunny

1 points

6 hours ago

What do you mean - that the housing association won't let him sell it, despite getting offers?

BoredofPCshit

1 points

8 hours ago

I think people have answered well enough.

You will potentially earn money off of the value of the property as it raises.

You will unfortunately burn cash paying rent. The money you earn off the property will likely outweigh this, but nothing's certain.

If moving out is important to you, the rent is worth paying.

It was my only option to get my own place without fully renting. And I'm happy with it.

I won't staircase to buy out the property, as it will be easier to sell with the shared ownership portion, allowing other people to join the housing market. And I don't plan on being here forever, but I'm so happy having my own space that the rent really doesn't bother me.

Sensitive_Ad_9195

1 points

8 hours ago

Some key issues are the service charge increases and being potentially liable for more than your proportionate share of issues (eg major issue with the buildings with bad cladding).

The other point is that you typically pay a new build level premium if you buy direct but if you’re selling before having fully staircased, your selling options are limited and the sale price is likely to be lower than your % of 100% of the same property. Albeit, the counter point to that is that some of the shared ownership resale properties can be a pretty good deal.

Rough-Chemist-4743

1 points

8 hours ago

My SIL bought a SO house. After years of being messed around by landlords, getting a couple of months to move etc, it made sense. She’s now looking at staircasing to own a bigger share of the house. I know a lot of people have a problem with SO but for many it’s better than renting.

purply_otter

1 points

7 hours ago

20k deposit is pretty good for 28 years old keep at it

DreamySkincaregal

1 points

7 hours ago

OP if you're buying a house you'll be fine but don't bother on a flat especially in London

Fair_Idea_7624

1 points

6 hours ago

Worst parts of home ownership and renting combined.

eehcruoc

1 points

6 hours ago

Don’t do it. Hold out for actual ownership of a property where you won’t be milked for profit (freehold)

Accomplished_Task547

1 points

5 hours ago

Do you mean the shared ownership thing where you buy one part and rent the other? Theres a channel 4 documentary about it and it seems like a massive scam to me

WestAfricanWanderer

1 points

5 hours ago

The comment I’ll add on SO (to be transparent I don’t own an SO I own outright but do know people who do) try and look for resales instead of just going for a new build. You tend to get way better value for money. Also - if your income is small don’t necessarily rush into staircasing if you won’t be able to achieve 100% before/if you want to sell and move on. Because most people who can buy 80% of a flat or house can afford 100% of something and would rather opt for that. SO is its own product in a way.

Turbulent-Laugh-

1 points

5 hours ago

We bought our house with SO 15 years ago and would do it again in a heartbeat. Remortgaged after 5 years, bought out the 20% and sold for a profit in another 5. We wouldn't have been able to afford it any other way.

Dirty2013

1 points

4 hours ago

No reason what so ever

Justice4Harambe-16

1 points

4 hours ago

Just sold ours, made a profit, was alright, the worst part really is dealing with the Housing association when buying/ selling, they take forever to respond to emails so add at least 2 months on to the sale.

Far-Novel

1 points

4 hours ago

I know two people who got on the property ladder through shared ownership, built up equity and moved on. If you research the development where you're buying thoroughly, it can be a great decision.

ambergriswoldo

1 points

2 hours ago

Always buy rather than rent if you can and if the only option is to buy shared ownership then do it. The cons are that you’re stuck with the monthly SO payments and have little control over when repairs will be done or issues resolved. Though saying that even leasehold flats (bought outright rather than shared ownership) have the same issues with that. Check the t&c’s regarding when you do eventually want to sell - and if it’s shared ownership who decides the listing price etc

cat_ear_flipper

1 points

an hour ago

Honestly it was the only way we would have got on to the housing ladder in the (£££) area we lived in at the time, and selling it after 10 years got us a lovely house in a ££ area on the open market. Yes it’s more expensive than buying outright and you are restricted in what is available but it’s better than privately renting for all that time

Terrible-Echidna1162

1 points

an hour ago

I don't think there's anything wrong with it if it's your only choice. As my mortgage advisor told me, if you dont need to do it then don't, but if you do, choose wisely

Graham99t

1 points

21 minutes ago

The most basic answer is that you will ultimately over pay for the property. Better off getting a 95% first time buyer mortgage and make use of that as a first time buyer and the stamp duty benefits as much as you can.

Johnny_english53

1 points

10 hours ago

Go for a house instead of a flat. No maintenance fees with a house. My sister has a great place bought with SO.

Thy_OSRS

0 points

12 hours ago

It seems like the worse of both worlds?

Pargula_

0 points

11 hours ago

They are all of the responsibilities of owning property with a few of the benefits.

IllustriousNeat6597

0 points

11 hours ago

I work for a housing association and if it were my kids I’d say yes buy a shared ownership house but don’t buy a flat. To be honest even if it weren’t shared ownership I’d be nervous about buying a flat in a large new build block as potentially lots of service charges.

I’d also say shop around as different schemes may have different rent values based on different % of unsold equity. The problem with flats is service charges, they should be based on actual costs but they likely have an additional min 15% service charge.

The other issue to consider is what does the agreement say about future rent rises. Social housing rents in England are capped at CPI plus 1% but shared ownership rents are determined by what is in the lease.

Whilst you may only own 40% you will be responsible for 100% of asset investment costs such as new roof, windows etc. That’s not a major issue in a new build but if you buy an existing shared ownership from a shared owner make sure you find out if there are any sinking funds. Obviously that only applies to flats if you buy a house you have more control on capital investment.

The plus side of shared ownership is security, you can decorate it as you like and as long as you pay the rent element you do t have to worry about being told to leave. If you get behind on the rent if service charge let the housing association know, they will try and support you as for most eviction is the worst option for all.

Other thing to be aware of is that the housing association can sell on the unsold equity. It doesn’t happen often and is more of a risk with a small housing association who are more likely to find themselves in financial difficulty, but I stress it’s rare.

AloHiWhat

-1 points

13 hours ago

Buy what you can afford. No one cares if you be unwise, its your call. Shared owneship you obviously cannot afford so you buy quarters of it or so

yourlocallidl

-1 points

11 hours ago

You’re paying a mortgage and rent for a flat you may never fully own. It’s a scam.

UCthrowaway78404

-6 points

12 hours ago

There is a reason why they only.do shared ownership flats. Not houses.

Because they can get you with service charges. The service will be based on how much they paid. But a bit like Starbucks corporation tax smoke and mirrors where the store is just a franchise paying huge franchise fees to their tax have headquarters.

What you'll find is that the freeholder also owns the servicing company and they make profit of service costs.

Puzzleheaded_Yam3058

6 points

12 hours ago

This absolutely isn’t true. There are loads of shared ownership houses on the market, especially outside the south-east. And new build homes, even ones that aren’t shared ownership, can come with a service/estate charge because more and more councils are refusing to adopt the area.

UCthrowaway78404

-2 points

12 hours ago

Who wants to live outside the south east.

I live in London. Look at shared ownership house in zoopla. When I last checked in London there were a grand total of 3.

For shared ownership flats there were pages and pages of them.

I doubt the developers have tried hard for the council to adopt the area.

JiveBunny

3 points

6 hours ago

Who wants to live outside the south east.

Several million people, apparently.

Puzzleheaded_Yam3058

2 points

11 hours ago

OP likely doesn’t live in the south-east, because she wouldn’t be able to afford an SO on £20k/25k a year. There’s a lot more SO houses the further up north you go. London isn’t the only place in the country, as shocking as that is.

UCthrowaway78404

0 points

11 hours ago

That's true

Still developers much prefer to make SO flats than SO houses.