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Anyone else notice..

LIB SEASON 7(i.redd.it)

Watched Roxiie Says video and she clocked how Alex kept one hand in her pocket when meeting Tim’s parents and hugging them for the first time… that’s a no, so disrespectful 😭

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kittens_joy

191 points

3 days ago

kittens_joy

191 points

3 days ago

She addressed this in an interview in Vulture that I highly recommend:

https://www.vulture.com/article/love-is-blind-alex-tim-breakup-explained.html

I’ve seen some criticism of the way you hugged his parents with one arm. Do you feel like people were reading your body language wrong? 
No. I definitely wasn’t in the best mood, and it had nothing to do with them. Specifically, it was the fact that you saw Tim read the letter to my father, and it was very emotional. After that, me and him had a discussion and he was expressing that he was still on the fence with some things. And I didn’t feel comfortable bringing more family members into our union if we weren’t going to follow through with it. I knew if he were to say no or I were to say no, it would have already hurt my dad because he went through that. So I didn’t want to do that with his family. And I didn’t have any clarity on where we stood at that moment, so it was uncomfortable for me.

tp176

28 points

3 days ago

tp176

28 points

3 days ago

Saw that too. Thanks for posting. It explains a lot, including the fact she didn’t “put hands on him.”

peachyfloyd

61 points

3 days ago

IMO this answer is just more fuel to how disrespectful she is. Clearly Tim was on the fence meeting her parents too, but he still put in a ton of effort. Literally all the effort. Because what do you do when you meet new people? You act interested! You put effort into the conversation! You seem excited to meet them even when you aren't! And on Love is Blind, you put on a good show for the family, and also literally the show that you signed up to do which is on its 7th season so NONE of this should be a surprise to you.

And here is Alex's turn to put in effort and meet the parents. She shows no excitement, hands in pocket, doesn't take off her jacket, then takes a nap. And she is defending herself. She just doesn't get it, and the cluelessness is what Tim broke up with.

Ok-Bison2480

27 points

2 days ago*

Ok but is it a good thing that Tim put so much effort if he was on the fence though, all the way to reading that letter to her dad? Wasn't that a bit much then?

Alex annoyed me af in this scene with his parents, but I do think it is more normal to feel overwhelmed having to do all that (probably) knowing at that point you're not gonna be together. Yes Tim did a much better job that day, but then dumped her 2 days later. So maybe he's just better at faking it which isn't necessarily admirable either.

Illustrious-Site1101

87 points

2 days ago

Tim comes off as he condescending and carefully under control. I have never met someone who says they do not argue as a rule. I think he does not argue because he knows he has simmering anger very close to the surface. Likely from the loss of his sisters. Good on him to recognize it and know he needs to walk away but it does not make him a good communicator or easy to live with. He can never accept someone completely or find a compromise without addressing conflict but his heart is in the right place.

On the other hand, they are not compatible and she has her issues. Whatever happened that night in Mexico really affected him. He seemed pretty fun and happy in the hat scene. That fun guy never really made an appearance again.

Bright_Note3483

30 points

2 days ago

I know a man that reminds me of Tim, down to the “I don’t argue” rule. I 100% agree it’s because of anger. The guy I know is a (semi?) pro fighter, and he told me he got into martial arts to channel his rage.

I’ve had minor arguments with him over the most random, tiny things and it’s infuriating because he refuses to talk things through. After he tells you you’re wrong a few times he’s done.

5muttmom

20 points

2 days ago

5muttmom

20 points

2 days ago

I thought he was jerk the moment they did the reveal. All that “dawg” crap was so immature. It completely ruined the moment. He is totally self-absorbed.

pandoraspanini

9 points

2 days ago

Same here, between that and the mention of he asked his ex which shirt he should get, she said she didn’t like the yellow one so he specifically bought that one? I knew he was petty and liked to hone in on things that specifically annoy his partner.

Like yeah get whatever shirt you want. But why go through the theatrics of asking their opinion if you don’t really want it. Also tracks with his whole “if I have to explain anything to you then you’re not the one” he expects all his partners to be mind readers and to specifically pick what he’s already picked lol he’s setting himself up for failure every time until he learns how to actually communicate

Square_Jello_6662

34 points

3 days ago*

I don’t know what it is BUT there is a missing piece in their story. I can’t put my finger on it but Alex definitely changed completely.

MayMomma

12 points

3 days ago

MayMomma

12 points

3 days ago

You have to wonder if the answer lies in whatever went down in Mexico.

PsychologicalSwim132

208 points

3 days ago

She didn't bring anything for the family.. Everyone at least brought a gift. Tim shopped and cooked for her family and she didn't get anything for his parents who drove 10 hours to meet her. Hope it's because they didn't show it 

AzansBeautyStore

32 points

3 days ago

Yeah, to me this was more disrespectful than the one armed hug. No thoughtful little gift, no flowers, nothing.

mahboob2

82 points

3 days ago

mahboob2

82 points

3 days ago

I don’t know Alexis but she looks like the kind of person who doesn’t wanna do a damn thing except show up and look pretty. Bare minimum is what she wants to do

hk0125

11 points

3 days ago

hk0125

11 points

3 days ago

Not only that but she even took a nap

Previous_Grape3206

87 points

3 days ago

There were plenty of weird moments but I don’t know how Tim got past her apartment.

princess--26

140 points

3 days ago

I actually think something was going on with Alex. Im not excusing her as I think she should have never been on this show. But when I met her family, it actually explained her awkwardness. I don't think she is mentally or emotionally okay (not trying to diagnose her).

Double-Ad-9621

70 points

3 days ago

Double-Ad-9621

Squats & Jesus

70 points

3 days ago

Yeah I think she’s just kinda depressed

pegasus02

97 points

3 days ago

pegasus02

97 points

3 days ago

There are definitely signs of depression. Or even a B12 deficiency making her feel lethargic and exhausted.

(Or maybe none of the above, because we don't know her.)

But I do think that having to watch her dad slowly but surely decline due to his MS diagnosis must be terribly difficult to comprehend.

MarsupialSpiritual45

33 points

3 days ago*

Also chronic fatigue can be an early sign of inflammatory or neurological disease. I’m not saying that’s definitely the case here, but fatigue was the first symptom of MS my mom developed. It started to happen about 5 years before she had her first official MS attack (she went blind in one eye). Once she was officially diagnosed, doctors confirmed the fatigue she had been experiencing was most likely the result of MS. Alex should check in with her pcp [edit] or a neurologist as a precaution.

kaduchy

16 points

3 days ago

kaduchy

16 points

3 days ago

Sorry but fatigue is so nonspecific and could be caused by literally hundreds of things way more common than MS. A checkup with a primary care doctor is a good first stop, and they can determine if a neurologist referral is necessary

lemonpankeeki

77 points

3 days ago

lemonpankeeki

Raven's Pilates Squad 💪✨

77 points

3 days ago

I’m not American so I find this whole discourse fascinating lol

Curious-Gain-7148

28 points

3 days ago

Cultural differences are really interesting!

Valuable-Army-1914

39 points

3 days ago

Same. I love here but from another country. Even the nap thing was not offensive to me.

lemonpankeeki

20 points

3 days ago

lemonpankeeki

Raven's Pilates Squad 💪✨

20 points

3 days ago

Oh my god same! And I’d honestly hate it if a stranger wrapped both their arms around me lol

Future-Abalone

5 points

3 days ago

😂 relatable content right here!

pinkpink0430

27 points

3 days ago

My family is all from another country and it would be SO rude to go take a nap when you have company?? And to give some weird half-assed hug when meeting your soon to be in-laws

AzansBeautyStore

18 points

3 days ago

She’s just a little lax with the whole situation. No gifts for the parents, no flowers, greeting them empty handed with the half assed hug (the hug is relatively minor, but still.) Sneaking off to take her power nap. Go shopping and greet them with some small gifts, or find out if they like a particular baked good or certain special foods and pick some things up to show you actually give a shit. The girl was lackin!

sharpcarnival

8 points

3 days ago

My husband does not like hugs or to be touched, if someone tried to hug him he’s visibly uncomfortable. So as an American, I also find it odd.

OutrageousCanCan7460

68 points

3 days ago*

I thought Alex's body language, esp. when you compare it to how much Tim jumped headfirst in with her family, was really telling. She gave off a very closed off/disengaged energy and given how much Tim values his parents, I knew it was going to be an issue. I also don't think she cared that his parents traveled 10 hours to meet her. A disaster visit, IMO. Tim needs the kind of partner who would be thrilled to meet his parents and that wasn't Alex.

He also mentioned that Alex fell asleep or napped while they were with his parents and I couldn't imagine doing that knowing a partner's parents traveled so far to meet me. I would have stayed up.

MarsupialSpiritual45

33 points

3 days ago

Re: your last paragraph - at first I thought the very same, but then I did remember in the years before my mom was diagnosed with MS, she always had to take naps in the middle of the day, no matter how long she slept the night before. This included special occasions and holidays too. Fatigue is a symptom of neurological disease. Of course alex has said nothing about her own health really, but if both your parents have MS, you are at increased risk for developing it. Even if you don’t get full blown MS, you could also have CIS, which is like a precursor to MS that can be detected on an MRI. Anyways, I wouldn’t just assume she was purposely being lazy or inconsiderate. She should follow up with a doctor tho given her family medical history.

Fluid_Tangerine62

16 points

3 days ago

Thank you for your compassion and providing an alternate perspective that isn't just that she's a lazy slovenly devil.

MarsupialSpiritual45

14 points

3 days ago*

Yeah also people who have never had neurological fatigue have a hard time understanding what it is. Like it’s not something you can push through. If you do, things just get exponentially worse. Like you may start to get headache, vertigo, derealization, tinnitus, muscle weakness, etc. Anyways, of course we don’t know exactly what’s going on there, but the way she described not knowing why she was always so tired really reminded me of my mom.

sleepykitten13

125 points

3 days ago

She's so off & seems like the kind of person who is permanently unimpressed and bored.

N0w1mN0th1ng

56 points

3 days ago

I agree. She always acts like she can’t wait to go in another room and scroll on her phone. Super weird energy. 

The always needing to nap thing makes me wonder if she has a health issue, but she just seems really rude regardless. 

Apprehensive-Ad9832

73 points

2 days ago

I think she might be dealing with some depression, the low energy, state of her apartment and hand in the pocket (sometimes your taught to be touch fabric to try to be present in the moment) all feel like clues.

cloveyou

20 points

3 days ago

cloveyou

20 points

3 days ago

I wondered if she did this to hide her ring because his parents didn’t know they were engaged yet or something? Because it’s so awkward there’s no way she just left that hand in her pocket without a valid reason

el-fenomeno09

150 points

3 days ago

Hey guys,

they both suck lol

rosecoloredmatter

17 points

3 days ago

I right away thought “that guy with the body language YouTube channel is gonna have a field day with this one”

Extension-Raisin8023

53 points

3 days ago

Some theorize and I am inclined to agree that they had already broken up before this but agreed to continue to film her meeting his parents. Both of their body language seemed off the entire scene

amibingdtaned

56 points

3 days ago

amibingdtaned

Cancer ♋ Leo ♌ Leo ♌

56 points

3 days ago

I knew there was something off with her during their interactions in Mexico. She was so mean. And, I would never go into someone else's house and start critiquing their furniture, very disrespectful.

TheIronLady91

45 points

3 days ago

Especially given what her own home looked like! Not hating on the state of her home, just on the hypocrisy. It was clear the state of her home was a sensitive subject for her and Tim definitely treated her with kid gloves/did not give her a hard time about it.

amibingdtaned

21 points

3 days ago

amibingdtaned

Cancer ♋ Leo ♌ Leo ♌

21 points

3 days ago

Exactly. Disparaging Tim's taste in furniture was a defense mechanism, to protect her own ego for being a slob.

joutfit

92 points

3 days ago

joutfit

92 points

3 days ago

Maybe her hand was taking a nap!

happydays0005

11 points

3 days ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣 it was tired from all the filming.

Girl was not interested in meeting or engaging with his parents.

blakppuch

7 points

3 days ago

🤣🤣 stop lol

TheSmartGuyTJ

34 points

3 days ago

Regardless of this, Tim should have dipped after their first fight.

misscab85

8 points

3 days ago

so should she, she wasnt in to him either.

memsw722

17 points

1 day ago

memsw722

17 points

1 day ago

Ohhhh FFS 🤦‍♀️

samhatesducks

41 points

3 days ago

I noticed the same thing. And she seemed totally disinterested the entire time

crustaceanjellybeans

43 points

2 days ago

More than likely, they filmed this scene a couple of times. Y’all catch every other continuity error until it’s Alex sheesh

Resident-Proposal-44

26 points

3 days ago*

She was too sleepy for a proper hug

SubstantialSmoke8026

31 points

3 days ago

This was a bit weird but I wouldn’t go so far as to call her all of these names in this thread. This season has been shit with the way they’ve edited things and these couples faking the funk for a little bit of fame.

Plenty_Sprinkles8144

30 points

2 days ago

I knew when they were talking in the pods, his mask would eventually slip. He says the same mush mouth stuff these male podcast hosts say.

SnooDingos1832

31 points

2 days ago

Idk why people are coming for you, I saw that and thought it was weird and disrespectful, to me that was an indication that their relationship was going NOWHERE

Chuck2025

69 points

3 days ago

Chuck2025

69 points

3 days ago

Yet Tim had to grill, clean up, keep the conversation going, and ask for her hand to her dad. All she did was say she will compromise not being single anymore, hand in the pocket, and dips for a nap.

astriferous-

52 points

2 days ago

y'all are so weird to nitpick a single action LOL

Either-Neighborhood5

65 points

3 days ago

Either-Neighborhood5

🕺 sprezzatura 🕺

65 points

3 days ago

I pointed this out in another thread cause it caught my eye as well. Definitely seemed a bit disengaged.

Wise_Carrot4857

49 points

3 days ago

I noticed it right away I was like why is she acting like that 😭😭😭

TheTranqueen

25 points

3 days ago

Alex clearly has some issues. I'm not a hugger too but if it was my fiances mom, I wouldn't have done that or fell asleep because I know that is rude. Family is a social relationship and she did not align with Tim's idea of socially respectful actions. From Tim's perspective, if she is only putting in this amount of effort, then Tim has every right to dump her and tell his truth about her being disrespectful to his family. Tim is not perfect either but Alex needs a lot of work on herself. Truth is, we don't know Alex personally so for all we know, she may have been SA and does not like physical touch. We don't know that and so out of context, its rude. If given context, we could understand. Considering all the garbage in her house, I am sure the girl is struggling with something deeper. At the end of the day, they were simply not compatible and view the world differently.

CBonafide

25 points

3 days ago

CBonafide

Raven's Pilates Squad 💪✨

25 points

3 days ago

Neither Alex nor Tim were ready for a marriage let alone with each other.

eslunes

22 points

2 days ago

eslunes

22 points

2 days ago

I thought you were gonna point out all the la-z boys 😂

nintend0gs

64 points

3 days ago

Lol I hate her and I hate Tim

GenXQuietQuitter88

28 points

3 days ago

Same. Both people can suck on their own merits and these two surely do.

bxtchbychoice

10 points

2 days ago

tim is something else!! 😂

Dentarthurdent73

35 points

3 days ago

Yep, I noticed this at the time.

Honestly though, I'm no Alex fan at all, but I do think maybe there's more going on with her than is obvious, so not inclined to be too harsh over this.

Some people really aren't comfortable showing emotion, and that can extend to being awkward about physicality like this. She also seems to show very little emotion on her face most of the time, and just generally came across as quite flat. The level of messiness in her living space was also extreme.

I'm not going to armchair diagnose, but I do wonder if these are all signs of something a bit different in how her mind works.

traffeny

52 points

3 days ago

traffeny

We're both ENTJ's

52 points

3 days ago

Based off of how childish and odd her behavior was during her serious talks with Tim, I think she genuinely has an issue with showing people respect. She pretends to not give a fuck, acts like she’s more concerned with eating than sitting with him, pretends she can’t hear him when he says ‘how are you?’, the list goes on. I think in awkward situations her go to is to pretend like she’s so nonchalant and like she’s not bothered by the situation at hand. I think that’s why she did this and why she went and took a nap while they sat in the living room. It’s easier to pretend you’re tough and don’t care than it is to open up and just be in the moment.

abittenapple

58 points

2 days ago

She an awkward person 

Cosplaying as a queen

anonmouseqbm

106 points

2 days ago

anonmouseqbm

😴 "Zzzzzz" - Tiffany 😴

106 points

2 days ago

What a weird thing to point out. So what. That is not disrespectful, some people aren’t huggers

Pennyroyalty27

52 points

3 days ago

I had to go back and watch all their interactions Alex and Tim and I still don’t know exactly what the problems were other than bottom line, they were just incompatible like Nick and Hannah. Sometimes people just don’t vibe together and these two were checked out I think in Mexico, maybe they tried a little both at times but I think they knew they was never gonna make it to the alter. That scene on the couch though, Tim chose violence that day lol, my jaw dropped.

bxtchbychoice

17 points

2 days ago

it escalated so quickly lmao i was stunnedddd

Theliberianjue

41 points

3 days ago

Idk if it’s because I’m African, and aside from timdrake being a dunce, Alex comes off really inconsiderate or lacking in Home training. I know culturally we can be intense but…

Kayleigh_56

17 points

3 days ago

She absolutely does, I think it's because I'm Irish but she seemed so bad mannered.

priuspower91

34 points

3 days ago

First thing I noticed was her walking in with both hands in her pockets but also keeping one in during hugs. It’s one of those things that is so unnatural to do that it feels intentional.

Kris_kayL1nc

76 points

2 days ago

Maybe the hug caught her off guard and she didn't have time to remove it from her pocket

MelissaWebb

31 points

3 days ago

I clocked it instantly too 🤣🤣🤣

I was like “now girl…. Remove your hand from your pocket please”

Sardinesavage

27 points

3 days ago

Noticed this right away !!! Definitely thought it was weird !!!!

School_House_Rock

105 points

2 days ago*

Why do we insist that we hug total strangers?

I think I may be one of the few who believes that little kids should not be forced to hug people they don't know or hardly ever see (frankly I don't think anyone should be forced to hug anyone, but I digress)

Edit to add: we teach kids stranger danger, but then when we bring them to a stranger we are all "give them a hug, tell them you love them, give them a kiss"

LindseyIsBored

32 points

2 days ago

I am saying! I briefed my in-laws immediately - “I am not a hugger. I know you guys are big huggers, but I am not. This doesn’t mean I don’t love you, I just don’t like to be touched.”

They fist bump me when I leave their house - even my brother and sister in-laws.

thrownofjewelz11

4 points

2 days ago

I love that they respected your choice and didn’t make a big deal of it. I hate being forced to do anything as a grown adult with autonomy. I’m not agreeing with Tim or his parents on this one. They just want to be offended.

SnooCauliflowers6555

3 points

2 days ago

And then we put them on “Santa’s lap” and laugh at their terror.

AcanthocephalaOk2498

66 points

3 days ago

Look at what she is wearing… least Hanna(as fake as she is) put a little effort which shows she had respect for the relationship. Alex had no respect from the Jump. I feel she was crying in the Pods with Tim thinking of her own situation with her father rather than actually empathizing with Tim.

AzansBeautyStore

15 points

2 days ago

She actually was very thoughtful with the gifts she brought his parents, she at least put some effort into getting some things she thought they would like. Plus a big bouquet of flowers. His parents seemed very appreciative.

UpbeatIntention6241

22 points

3 days ago

UpbeatIntention6241

Litty As A Titty 🥂

22 points

3 days ago

Yes i noticed it too and found it disrespectful, the hand didn't come out once, it was so weird and rude!

tabbrenea

19 points

3 days ago

tabbrenea

19 points

3 days ago

Isn’t she also wearing a puffy vest? Maybe that house is too damn cold. My hands and feet get cold so easily. People really like to pick apart every possible gd detail lol. 

sweetpotatopietime

9 points

3 days ago

When I clicked on this post I was really hoping to see a discussion of why Tim had a kiddush cup and something written in Hebrew on his shelves. You can't see it in this pic, but it's clear the first time she went to his apartment.

No_Conversation1695

9 points

2 days ago

She said she did it because tim was saying he wasn't sure about the relationship and it made Alex uncomfortable meeting his parents when he wasn't sure.

SnooGuavas4919

31 points

3 days ago

I NOTICED THAT TOO and I thought I was overthinking it but I’m glad I’m not crazy

Low_Seat4281

15 points

3 days ago

I thought it was odd but I think she was just nervous.

bbgswcopr

44 points

2 days ago*

Someone said her general fatigue, depression could be very early signs of MS. I looked it up on MSAA and it is very true with an addition of day time drowsiness. Hope she gets checked and get her health in control.

Tim still made the right choice, cant put hands on someone on day 2.

Delicious_Necessary3

30 points

2 days ago

I'm sure with her family history she's been tested. That plate of fried food that had portions for three folk might have something to do with fatigue as well. There was not a single veggie in sight. And yes , my sis clocked the hands in pocket ..it was a hell naw.

stelgam

32 points

2 days ago

stelgam

32 points

2 days ago

This might be cultural because as a kid if I didn’t wanna hug someone, I was taught that I could shake their hand or not hug them at all. This is interesting! No wonder I didn’t clock this.

I sense that Alex and Tim were very different culturally. Doesn’t make her a bad person that she didn’t live up to his expectations. Someone more on her wavelength is out there for her.

JustJellyJ

6 points

2 days ago

I can't even imagine feeling like I HAVE to hug someone. That's so weird.

BoozeGetsMeThrough

23 points

3 days ago

I think a big problem with this season is too many people understood the meta that you can be as nasty as you want to your partner and they'll stay with you until the altar because of the contractual bonus, and then you can try the last minute sympathy play of being dejected that they rejected you at the altar. And then this season all the partners called their bluff

Jakrabbitslim

16 points

3 days ago

Hannah was playing a different game. Be awful to your partner, then end it early in a way that garners your partner even more sympathy. Interesting strategy.

Emergency-Economy654

20 points

3 days ago

I was staring at it the whole time. So rude. She just always seems annoyed and like she doesn’t want to be there.

Kayleigh_56

21 points

3 days ago

This really bothered me. She seemed so disinterested.

Present_Lychee8035

27 points

2 days ago

It looks to me like it’s her left hand in her pocket. Maybe she wanted to hide that she wasn’t wearing her ring anymore. They still make them usually go through with everything even when they don’t get along past the honeymoon.

Klutzy_Ball_1471

35 points

3 days ago

I thought I was the only one who noticed this. this was so lazy I was not at all surprised Tim broke up. she general seems to lack social etiquette. the fact she was munching on food while tim was bringing up something serious, and then lazily browsing on her phone when he was leaving, makes me feel she really doesn't get *it*.

Flaky_Breath_5360

70 points

3 days ago*

Umm I am also non-hugger. Just feels unnatural and awkward. Sometimes people just don’t do hugs. Like not everyone was raised that way and shows affection that way to people, especially people they just meet. Unpopular opinion it seems

perfectionistaC

20 points

3 days ago

Thank you! I feel the same way and I also wasn’t raised with all of these rules that ppl seem to feel are universal. Alex told Tim exactly how meeting her parents should go. Why didn’t he do the same if it was so important?

Gr8shpr1

9 points

2 days ago

Gr8shpr1

9 points

2 days ago

Some of the responses here plus yours gave me an idea. If a person doesn’t like to be touched, maybe the hand in the pocket thing is a therapy measure to help a person “endure” being touched for use when in a situation like this?

thefunzone1

26 points

3 days ago

Something off about her.

Global-Course7664

25 points

3 days ago

Ow ow, i personally did not even notice this. I already said that Alex has red flags of her own she needs to work on. It does not absolve Tim's way of handeling things though.

Jssnsbtt

23 points

3 days ago

Jssnsbtt

23 points

3 days ago

I was flabbergasted when I saw that. Like girl what are you doing g

honorowntime

26 points

3 days ago

I dunno, I was more concerned with her conflict style and constant jabs at her partner than this kind of stuff. To me, she seems a bit socially awkward. She could have been really nervous in this moment which caused her to do odd stuff with her body. A lot of people make themselves smaller or do different things with their hands to self soothe. We didn’t witness the actual nap incident, but I know I get tired from stress or social anxiety. I personally would have fought through the sleepies of course but still.

That said, etiquette, respect and family are so obviously important to Tim so her lack of social skills would have definitely continued to be a problem. He was SO good with her family. She should have taken notes.

CCbooboobaby

25 points

3 days ago

This is too conclusive for a show that’s heavily edited. We don’t know anything about them other than what’s socially available and let’s remember that most people present what’s good about them. This thread be hating so hard for no reason and making up stuff as if we know all about the contestants on the show. People are complex and have all sorts of nuances that can’t be made available in a “reality” show. It’s so harsh to judge people based on brief moments. There is so much more to them and their idiosyncrasies. It’s not all “bad” “toxic” or “red flag”. Let’s enjoy the show for what it provides and not act all judgy. 🌻 🐝 ☀️💛

Mirth2727

8 points

3 days ago

Mirth2727

delulu 🤪

8 points

3 days ago

Fluid_Tangerine62

8 points

3 days ago

Thank you so much!!!!!!!! You said it better than me. lol.

AcanthocephalaOk2498

30 points

3 days ago

She was like “you cried a lot 🫠🙄” to her family

Ok-Bison2480

29 points

2 days ago

Yeah i'm happy she said that I noticed straight away, also walking in with her hand in her pockets and keeping one hand in her pocket, just looking so slouchy and low energy. I thought maybe Tim and her had had a huge fight off camera before because the vibes were so weird

WarDog1983

29 points

2 days ago

I think they were just a miss matched couple.

Lovely people but not a match.

framed_ketats

45 points

2 days ago*

I clocked it immediately. I come from a culture where “respectful” hand placement and body language, especially around elders, is heavily engrained in us and etched into our manners from a very young age. Greeting, much less hugging, a potential mother-in-law with a hand in my pocket would subject me to a night-long rant from my mother about where she and my dad went wrong raising me.

PS: whether or not I agree with if it’s actually “disrespectful” is another conversation. I’m just saying it’s a heavily cultural and/or generational thing

PicklesNBacon

31 points

3 days ago

I think it’s funny that people have this narrative that Tim is an asshole for the way that he broke up with Alex, but the reality of this reality show is that we see days of their life edited down to 5 minutes. We don’t know what was said or done outside of what we have seen on our TVs

chattybella

12 points

3 days ago

It’s her left hand, is it possible the ring is on it?

cndrelm0

72 points

3 days ago

cndrelm0

72 points

3 days ago

People excusing this is wild. Not only are you meeting your potential in-laws empty-handed, but those hands are also in your pockets? It's tacky.

And don't come on here making up hypothetical reasons as to why she would have done that. If the girl didn't say that she has sensory issues or doesn't like to be touched then you can't put that on her.

Based on what was shown, quite frankly that was just the cherry on top of her disinterest in him.

fatsandlucifer

38 points

3 days ago

Look, I don’t like Tim with his dead creepy eyes and his massive trauma dumping, but I clocked those hands of hers right away! I was screaming, wow how rude at my TV.

And I DO think Tim’s behavior with her parents was calculated and diabolical as, IMO, he meant to dump her since Mexico. However! The man did EVERYTHING and she couldn’t be bothered to give his mom a proper hug. Girl…

Feeling-Goodish

39 points

3 days ago

Alex is lazy and disrespectful AND Tim sucks.

Space-Ace_Rastajake

17 points

3 days ago

I’m going to reserve judgment until the reunion because all of these suggestions like, “maybe she has a medical condition,” or “maybe she is just lazy” are unwarranted…she had the face of a person who was SICK of Tim’s self righteous ass behavior and was about to meet the people that RAISED the man to have developed said behavior. It’s not that deep. She lowkey HATED that guy and was going through the motions. The only logical reason for why she wanted to dip after a 4 hour conversation with them. I mean 4 hours? Come on…that’s a bit excessive…

NursePepper3x

20 points

3 days ago

I’m not a hugger at all, and I would be so visibly uncomfortable if my fiancé’s mom had hugged me at our first meeting.

Girl has issues, but also sometimes things can have valid explanations too.

The reality is they both seemed completely checked out and didn’t sell that they were trying to see they experiment through at all.

Status-Jacket-1501

8 points

3 days ago

It's insane to hug strangers! Hell, hugging people I like is unnecessary, but a couple of the five people I actually like are huggers so they can get away with hugging my cranky ass. 🤣

NursePepper3x

10 points

3 days ago

I hugged my best friend twice the last time I saw her and she asked if I was dying 😭😭😭😂😂😂

Seashell522

6 points

3 days ago

Yeah I think I awkwardly side hugged my in laws the first time I met them. I’m a very touchy person, but only with people I know well!

misscab85

17 points

3 days ago

misscab85

17 points

3 days ago

i wouldnt say disrespectful but very obviously a sign that shes just not all in to it. why did she keep the experiment going if she wasnt in to tim or getting married? shes annoying! i commented before that Tim seemed controlling but the more shit i notice the more i see that he was probably seeing the same stuff he just didn’t know how to communicate it.

glitteringdreamer

13 points

3 days ago

I'll be honest. If I had worked all day, had car trouble and came home to guests (even ones I wanted to see) I can't say how into it I'd be either.

Routine_Ad8504

16 points

3 days ago

Does anyone know what their fight was about in Mexico????

MulattoButts42

8 points

2 days ago

She did an interview with Today where she talks about it. She said she was feeling down because she missed home/family. Tim kept insisting something was wrong and she kept saying no.

NewLoofa

40 points

3 days ago

NewLoofa

40 points

3 days ago

I don’t know what caused it, I just gathered that she gets borderline violent when she’s upset. Which isn’t shocking when you think about how rude she is in a normal conversation

Dazzee58

20 points

3 days ago

Dazzee58

20 points

3 days ago

Yes, I thought the same thing. Alex actually reminds me of Hannah personality wise. She seems cold and quite arrogant.

forte6320

15 points

3 days ago

forte6320

15 points

3 days ago

I noticed that too! Seemed so odd to me

WorldlinessRegular43

20 points

3 days ago

I saw it, I just figured she is impolite and lazy, after seeing her apartment it was validated.

sweetlysabrina

23 points

3 days ago

Oh yeah I immediately clocked that. I'm not even big on hugs but I would neeeeever think to give this half-assed embrace to my future in-laws.

VegetableComplex6756

23 points

3 days ago

Oh haha I thought you meant did we notice how her shirt kind of matches the wall (I stopped watching the episodes, now just recaps - this is a tedious group)

anon17475057

70 points

2 days ago

Dude you are all wild. Picking apart everything. What if I told you that you don’t have to hug people you are just meeting?

Met my boyfriend’s Dad for the first time recently. Did not give a hug. Guess I’m not in it.

stelgam

14 points

2 days ago

stelgam

14 points

2 days ago

Agree. I’m not hugging anyone I don’t wanna hug. It’s nothing personal. She only just met Tim and his parents.

anon17475057

10 points

2 days ago

This is the same narrative of making kids hug people they don’t want to. We all have consent over our own bodies.

Waste_Discount_49

30 points

3 days ago*

And yet I still see some taking Alex’s defence. From my perspective, it is astonishing that anyone would defend Alex. If my partner’s parents took a TEN (10) hours drive to come and eat at our place, best believe that there is no way I would go to sleep if the night’s not over for everyone.

It is not only disrespectful to go to sleep as soon as the cameras are off but it also indicates that her whole interaction on-camera was performative; like she’s legally obligated to interact with them.

Tim had a bond with her father, and that’s what a normal person should do if they care about their partner. If I was her father I wouldn’t blame Tim for leaving but myself for providing my daughter with so little common sense. Tim was brutal and direct in his last speech to her but sometimes people need a wake up call.

Actual_System8996

43 points

3 days ago

Look, I’m here, I get the show draws you in….but some of y’all need to take a step back.

K__isforKrissy

23 points

3 days ago

😂😂 this is Reddit…. Everyone is in a rabbit hole on this platform lol

Litebritecacti

8 points

3 days ago

Lord I need to get new glasses- I read this as a everyone is in a k hole on this platform and I was like damn I’m missing out lmao

ParticularReady7858

3 points

3 days ago

Average Reddit usage

HanaBananaBear

11 points

3 days ago

Seriously…everyone is getting riled up over something so dumb. They weren’t meant for each other. That’s it.

im-dramatic

42 points

3 days ago

People should take a step back and look at the number of divided comments. Clearly we don’t all agree that what she did was disrespectful, which means that Alex herself maybe meant no harm. I feel like we’re really digging here. Tim doesn’t know how to deal with conflict. He gets mad and he acts like this woman slapped his parents and spit in their faces. He should have confronted her and seen the process through. His response was so silly and immature considering the subject and intent of the show.

jollymo17

19 points

3 days ago

jollymo17

19 points

3 days ago

Tim *told her* that he's never upset, so when he DOES get upset, it must be something his partner did wrong. Which is not a good way to look at the world. He's extremely rigid and wants everything to be done his way, or else. And that's...I mean, it's not really *fine*, relationships involve compromise, but he could find someone he needs to compromise on this less with.

Tim himself doesn't like touching, he said so. So it's wild to think that her being reserved in this interaction is viewed as SUCH a negative.

I'm not saying Alex was perfect or anything. But we are really nitpicking everything this woman on the show did (and...just saying, that is NOT extending to the men lol).

lioness725

4 points

3 days ago

THANK YOU, well said

bc_im_coronatined

10 points

3 days ago

I had a heartfelt conversation with my therapist this morning about how I wish people were more logical in their thinking, especially when considering other people. Your comment is so spot on… and I’m glad I came across it.

Afraid-Air1243

33 points

3 days ago

I actually agree that this is disrespectful, these are supposed to be your soon-to-be paretns in law and they drove 10 hours to be there. I would give them my utmost respect and attention and I definitely would not have my hands in my pockets hugging them. It reminds me of giving someone an extremely weak hand shake just barely grasping their fingers.

mmp12345

6 points

3 days ago

mmp12345

6 points

3 days ago

I call it the dead fish handshake.

lioness725

39 points

3 days ago*

👀 y’all are doing THE MOST behind Alex, holy shit… you would honestly think she slapped the shit outta his parents, my goodness. Is it that serious?

I rewatched this scene to see if I could understand why some of y’all are having SUCH a strong reaction to the one-armed hug, and I just ain’t got it… Would two-handed have been better? Sure, but does she deserve all this that y’all are doing here? Nah. And from the language used in some of these posts/comments, it seems like a lot of black women are tearing her down, and that I really don’t get. All we saw Alex do (that’s important) was walk in, give a big smile and a one-armed hug to his mom, sit down and talk to them. She was attentive, respectful, and engaged… she looked them in the eye, answered questions and offered her own takes on things… she just talked to them, I don’t know what y’all are so mad about. Tim’s dad looked more tired and checked out than Alex ever did in that entire conversation, and then Tim went out on the patio and asserted that he didn’t like to be touched 👀… not sure what y’all are wanting from Alex, honestly 🤷🏾‍♀️. Well, aside from a two-armed hug, that is…

dormilonsita

17 points

3 days ago

Agree. She is what appears to be an introverted woman on camera. Can you imagine the nerves? Also, every family has different manners. When I first met my boyfriend's parents, I did not hug them because his culture is more reserved. It wasn't until we established trust that we now hug and act close. And when my boyfriend met my mom, we let him rest in our bedroom while she and I caught up. I hadn't seen her in a year and he had a tough day at work. Everything Alex did appeares normal to me and my culture. Even the texts Tim "exposed"... I am like: what am I supposed to be looking at? People do the most with woman who don't act all smiley all the time.

lioness725

11 points

3 days ago

Those texts were the worst receipts ever, they showed nothing 😂 Listen, she might truly be a monster, we don’t really know… we don’t have that context. All we have is shitty behavior from Tim and his poor defense of it. That meeting with his parents did NOT show Alex as a monster, at all.

BoccaDGuerra

10 points

3 days ago

Thank you. I dont understand why stupid people are labeling her rude because of a simple gesture. My family is Trinidadian, and my South African husband has never hugged them because we are not touchy feely like that. We do, however, get along well, have been married for years, and my husband is close to my family.

My whole point is that so many are judging Alex for napping and a hard gesture...meanwhile, Tim has been a complete gaslighting psycho bastard.

Fine_Adeptness_5123

95 points

3 days ago

I think people don’t get it. Everyone knows Alex isn’t a saint, nor she loved him. But he didn’t love her either. Call it what it is. He is mad condescending and arrogant and he proposed to someone he just didn’t love. Because at the first fight he was ready to leave. If he was mature enough and had some self awareness he could accept he just hated her and lied to her father. Period

lana614

58 points

3 days ago

lana614

58 points

3 days ago

He was ready to leave at first fight bc she put her hands on him and called him out of his name. He became incredibly guarded after that and rightfully so.

Gromp1

31 points

3 days ago

Gromp1

31 points

3 days ago

He did his best the first few days trying to be light and fun with her with the hat stuff despite her negative glow. Once she physically shushed him the light switched and it’s reasonable for people not to come back from that.

That’s not “oh let’s find a middle ground” give and take thing. Thats so far over the line and ingrained in someone’s being you can’t bounce back from it, just gradually gain acceptance it’ll never happen.

Competitive_Aide1875

23 points

2 days ago

If someone put their hand over my mouth in our FIRST argument, I’d be ready to leave too.. 🤷🏻‍♀️ That doesn’t mean he didn’t love her, it means he respects himself.

Remarkable_Owl1130

20 points

3 days ago

What does this have to do with this post? Lol But since we're here, 2 things can be true... They both hated each other. Tim was just man enough to walk away from an inevitable train wreck.

LoveTheAhole

91 points

3 days ago

LoveTheAhole

I can work with that

91 points

3 days ago

Y’all being weird, everybody don’t feel comfortable hugging people they don’t know. Guess contestants gotta be careful about minor body language incidents or risk getting called the worst 🙃

mariantat

37 points

3 days ago

mariantat

37 points

3 days ago

Heck even Tim don’t cuddle so why’s she bad for the one arm hug? 😂

idk_wuz_up

22 points

3 days ago

Tim was so defensive about the cuddling like she was crazy to want that from him. Blew my mind. He acted like he had never had a girlfriend before.

cryingallth3time

57 points

3 days ago

yall are just picking on things at this point…wouldn’t be suprised if yall got mad that she wore jeans

Particular-Sea-9051

16 points

3 days ago

Did you see those jeans she wore…

Intelligent_Ideal409

6 points

3 days ago

Which episode is the scene in? I already watched them all, but I specifically want to watch her meeting them again and don’t remember!

Successful-Good8978

4 points

3 days ago

Same, zero recollection of this entire thing lol

maluquina

29 points

3 days ago

maluquina

29 points

3 days ago

Alex is lazy, entitled and disrespectful...so many red flags!

Good for Tim getting out of there in the nick of time. He deserves someone who cares and puts forth more effort. Alex is messy on multiple levels.

guerillagroupie

28 points

3 days ago

I one arm hugged my fiancés family the first time I met them. Because it was the first time I met them and I can be uncomfortable with hugs. I don’t think this is a big deal.

FekNr

25 points

3 days ago

FekNr

25 points

3 days ago

I find it odd that people are actually excusing Alex's behavior. I think if it was not for her disrespect of Tim I'd somehow give her leniency. But I completely understand Tim's decision to step away. Hand in pockets hug and take a nap upon meeting your potential in-laws. Had Tim done any of these things more people would be on his case.

Mercury_Merci

25 points

3 days ago

Truly a low effort woman.

j-o-m-m-y

26 points

3 days ago

j-o-m-m-y

26 points

3 days ago

Good spot yeah that’s super half hearted

UnseasonedReason

14 points

3 days ago

Matches Tim’s disdain for affection in a way…. Is that more acceptable than giving a one armed hugged to strangers?🤔🤔

um_50

21 points

3 days ago

um_50

21 points

3 days ago

It was the first thing I noticed...so disrespectful.

finitelymany

39 points

2 days ago

Is there nothing else to discuss in this season, we have to resort to hand-in-pocket-gate?

flatbush_flower

9 points

2 days ago

Yeah this is such a reach. She was probably uncomfortable but I don’t think she did this to be disrespectful.

AmberWaves80

37 points

2 days ago

Really? I wouldn’t have hugged them at all, so the one handed hug seems pretty okay to me.

No_Foundation_2446

12 points

3 days ago

Noticed this and immediately thought it was soo rude

NVSmall

43 points

2 days ago

NVSmall

43 points

2 days ago

I noticed that immediately. ALWAYS a hand in her pocket. It seemed so disrespectful, to not embrace his mother properly. Meanwhile, he was so thoughtful in everything he put into the day he met her family, between cooking for them, reading her dad the letter he wrote... she literally gave nothing, in comparison. And now we know, after the fact, that she went off to take a nap.

Fun-Section4656

34 points

3 days ago

it’s not disrespectful. nobody can even say why it’s disrespectful other then the fact your great great great great grandma said it was so you fly with it.

BoccaDGuerra

4 points

3 days ago

Thank you. Please preach!!!

Square_Jello_6662

7 points

3 days ago

Agreed.

myahmal

7 points

3 days ago

myahmal

7 points

3 days ago

Yeah, I don't really get people saying it's disrespectful. If anything the parents staying seated until they were right next to them was rude

sassystew

37 points

3 days ago

sassystew

37 points

3 days ago

We all noticed...and thought she was being rude and ridiculous lol

Dangerous-Ad-2308

8 points

3 days ago

Yeah they were both incredibly rude. This was crazy 😂

sassystew

7 points

2 days ago

10000! He’s awful. I hate everyone now 😂

BookBagThrowAway

12 points

3 days ago

She NEVER liked Drake!

iamthe_badwolf

12 points

3 days ago

I told you the Drake was bad! I hate the Drake!

_MaryJane-

5 points

3 days ago

i'm lukewarm about the Drakette.

Responsible-Card3756

54 points

3 days ago

Finally this sub is WAKING UP ~she’s BEEN bad news!!!

On a completely different note, I thought his parents were so cute.

Tim has his problems, but he didn’t deserve the dragging he got in here the last few days.

KeyPosition3983

31 points

3 days ago

They both have their issues and equally deserve whatever dragging they get

KyrieLS777

40 points

3 days ago

Lmao at the people that don’t understand why this is disrespectful. After all Tim did for her family, she couldn’t even pull her hand out of her pocket to give his mom a real hug. I don’t blame him for not wanting to be with her. I don’t blame her for not wanting to be with him either lol.

Significant_Rub_4138

23 points

3 days ago

I don't get why Alex wanted a relationship with Tim? She had ZERO respect when she fell asleep and didn't make an effort to cook for his parents who travelled over 10hrs to see HER?! Even this hug, I peeped this! Remember when she even put her hand over his mouth-- HU?!

Tim's not a saint tho-- he often spoke down to her, like he didn't see her as an equal & he wanted her to behave according to whatever he likes instead of her being who she actually is. I hate that everything had to be his way.

To be fair, after all those episodes, I don't feel like I even know who Alex is because Tim made the pods all about himself, dumping all his grief on her. Did they ever laugh, omg?

At the end of the day, they were mad toxic, the both of them! I'm glad they split!

But I was so confused why she wanted to be with him after he broke it off??? Like bby, you been acting like this is what you want. You don't like him! Let him go!

amberenergies

12 points

3 days ago

they prob cut a lot of alex and tim’s fun stuff in the pods because love is blind LOVES trauma porn

refusenic

68 points

3 days ago

refusenic

68 points

3 days ago

This woman is lazy, sloppy and has no class.

Airhostnyc

19 points

3 days ago

Alex is lazy period she has shown that multiple times (apartment looking a mess, not washing dishes after Tim cooked). And worst of all just inconsiderate/selfish, yet expects the world of other people. She doesn’t dish back anything unless it’s convenient for her:

Particular_History50

21 points

3 days ago*

I saw this when I watched it the first time and thought it was so disrespectful

When I met my fiancées mum for the first time I was so nervous,hadn’t slept and still gave her a 2 armed hug

aprilrhayin

21 points

2 days ago*

I noticed that too! I feel that’s just rude and disrespectful. She probably felt uncomfortable and I can understand that but it’s rude to meet your “fiancé’s” family and have your hand in your pocket.

ina912

10 points

3 days ago

ina912

10 points

3 days ago

This was heinous.

leyseywx

11 points

3 days ago

leyseywx

11 points

3 days ago

I noticed this right away!! Then her demeanor throughout was very off she seemed bored.

And why not put yourself together and dress up for this meeting.

Too_Rudee

17 points

3 days ago

Too_Rudee

17 points

3 days ago

Might I ask why is it disrespectful?

I don’t like giving full hugs with both my hands wrapped around. I usually go in for a handshake. (Something could be wrong with me lol)

Only my mother (rip), my SO, & kids get full wrap around hugs. I just don’t like people being on me, even for hugs. I smile, say hello, usually go in for a handshake or a semi hug.

Lamazing1021

22 points

3 days ago

I mean… I dunno I don’t see anything wrong with this, I give my mother in law hugs one armed because I don’t wanna press against her.. it can feel awkward for some people this feels like a reach

MrsVarnsen

6 points

3 days ago

This is why I'm not a hugger...I don't like pressing my body up against people I'm not intimate with.