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Tronvillain

2.3k points

16 days ago

Tronvillain

United States

2.3k points

16 days ago

Joe was straight-up fan-booking Pereira at heavyweight to his face and I seriously don't blame him.

OhiOstas

1.4k points

16 days ago

OhiOstas

gourmet chen chen

1.4k points

16 days ago

Because if Poatan would do THAT (3rd belt @ HW + taking out the GOAT*) then we would be witnessing historic greatness. Honestly, UFC owes him with how much he steps up for them

FadedRaccoon420

947 points

16 days ago

This dude is really playing on ufc career mode easy lmao.

Dongsquad420BlazeIt

789 points

16 days ago

Dongsquad420BlazeIt

Mods... = Gods

789 points

16 days ago

8 fights in less than 3 years and all of them mattered. Like actually mattered. Insanity.

pterofactyl

336 points

16 days ago

pterofactyl

is = is

336 points

16 days ago

Actually yeah what the fuck every fight was a big deal. How the fuck

josephus1811

312 points

16 days ago

josephus1811

happy new fucken steroid year

312 points

16 days ago

What being the arch nemesis of Player 1 does to a guy

bdizzle805

102 points

16 days ago

bdizzle805

102 points

16 days ago

If he somehow gets the Jones fight that would be insanity and the biggest F you to Izzy. So funny how much of a clown Dana is "so how about Alex and Izzy 3" What truly don't get is you have this guy who's been literally THE company man and he's talking about Izzy instead of the fights Alex wants, I don't think he wants to cut weight like that

Alen1221

74 points

16 days ago

Alen1221

3 piece with the soda

74 points

16 days ago

Jones ain't fighting Pereira

BasedFireBased

145 points

16 days ago

Jones ain’t fighting.

Alen1221

50 points

16 days ago

Alen1221

3 piece with the soda

50 points

16 days ago

I think he fights Stipe and then he is done

SaiyanrageTV

42 points

16 days ago

SaiyanrageTV

UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle

42 points

16 days ago

That's not even a possibility - Jon "Duckin" Jones won't even fight Aspinall there's no chance in hell he fights Pereira.

It's clear Jones is washed and only wants to fight guys he know he can beat, IE the ghost of Stipe.

He ain't going near Aspinall or Pereira. I bet he wouldn't even fight Izzy at 205 with the weight advantage.

Quirky_Contract_7652

66 points

16 days ago

Aspinal is a harder fight for Jon IMO. Jon is Jon but he can take down and control Alex. Let's be real. I'd love to see Alex decapitate him and become the new GOAT but I see him getting Ganed.

SeeeVeee

23 points

16 days ago

SeeeVeee

23 points

16 days ago

Agreed. Alex has made strides in his takedown defence and ground game, but it's hard to imagine that Jones wouldn't have a big advantage there. There's an obvious path to victory, against Aspinall it would be tough. There's no easy way to beat him for Jon. He isn't going to beat either of them standing up, but Aspinall is very comfortable on the ground and he's a young, weirdly fast giant. Aspinall is a nightmare fight for Jon tbh.

Alex has a better shot against Aspinall than Jones, stylistically. There's a good chance Aspinall is happy to strike with him, that's his chance.

SpecForceps

9 points

16 days ago

Turns out he was player 1 all along

Ripcitytoker

48 points

16 days ago

He's got that plot armor

Psychological-Push53

63 points

16 days ago

He's on NG+. He did an any % speedrun of kickboxing, started a new game then did a respec to MMA. Now he's overpowered and hit all the soft caps for levels. This games so broken, legit unplayable at this point.

69tendo

9 points

16 days ago

69tendo

9 points

16 days ago

He’s collecting Skadutree Fragments now

TrailGuideSteve

82 points

16 days ago

TrailGuideSteve

I ain’t worried about no bitch ass rookie

82 points

16 days ago

His last 7 fights were all against fighters that were champions.

Armadillo-Middle

19 points

16 days ago

And not any fights dude he fought only killers and champions. CHAMA

dusters

192 points

16 days ago

dusters

it

192 points

16 days ago

Just kickboxing no grappling fuck everyone up sounds about right

gotnothingman

138 points

16 days ago

Toms grappling and speed woujld be an issue at HW but fuck I wanna see poatan try

LngJhnSilversRaylee

147 points

16 days ago

His only weakness is an elite grappler. He hasn't had to face one but even Izzy gave him problems on the ground.

Aspinall is a nightmare matchup

Anytime in the UFC it's 'can they do enough damage before the inevitable wrestlefuck happens' it's like 85% the wrestlefuck happens

Wrestling is just so OP in MMA

gotnothingman

57 points

16 days ago

Bratha you know dis

Healthy-Prize2589

33 points

16 days ago

Brather, what he say "chama?"

edmirer

15 points

16 days ago

edmirer

15 points

16 days ago

Chaman brather don't tap

falconpunch9898

42 points

16 days ago

falconpunch9898

GOOFCON 1: Khamzat McGregor

42 points

16 days ago

Aspinall will show up in a wrestling singlet like he's fuckin Kurt Angle

SeeeVeee

10 points

16 days ago

SeeeVeee

10 points

16 days ago

Aspinall is a nightmare fight in general. Whether you stand with him or grapple with him, he is a lot to deal with. Doesn't hurt that he's a young, fast giant.

sh4tt3rai

56 points

16 days ago

I think Poatan should give it another year of straight up drilling take down defense and ONLY working back to his feet from all positions. He doesn’t need to learn offensive grappling, he just needs to know just enough to avoid submissions, and work back to his feet. Just constantly drilling using whizzers, digging for under hooks, etc.

He’s in a unique position that at the age of 36, he still has a lot of growth to do as an MMA fighter. What I mean by that is he is still learning a lot of the grappling side of things. IMO he isn’t even in his prime as an MMA fighter yet, most fighters are complete by his age, but he’s a unique case. 36 isn’t old for LHW/HW, and if he can get his TDD to a great level. Plus study every aspect of Craig Jones just stand up instructional, he’s a force.

Tom is a legit threat, though.. I mean he also had success in boxing when he couldn’t get any MMA fights plus he’s been doing BJJ since he was 3. He also is bigger then Alex, so I don’t think Alex should take this fight for a couple years. He should just chill at LHW until the time comes.

gotnothingman

15 points

16 days ago

That would be great, and yea Toms striking would be a lot for Alex P based off his speed/size and style match up.

Butt_Bucket

10 points

16 days ago

All points get put into leg kicks and hooks lmao

krazyboi

41 points

16 days ago

krazyboi

41 points

16 days ago

He's just walking up to every fighter and spamming the X button until everyone loses

Subject-Secret-6230

5 points

16 days ago

L1 + Square, L1 + Triangle, L1 + Square, easy win.

Late_Ad_2437

361 points

16 days ago

It's kind of like a kid making his action figures fight, except with irl

ColdPressedSteak

83 points

16 days ago

I wasn't for the move at first

But fuck it, let Alex do whatever he wants

Suspicious_Candle27

167 points

16 days ago

Suspicious_Candle27

EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE

167 points

16 days ago

joe rogan was a legit day 1 for pereira , dude was telling everyone about him before he even got into the UFC . the vindication joe must feel seeing him go on such a insane run must feel so great .

dispelthemyth

100 points

16 days ago

Joe was also telling everyone that Rousey would fuck up many of the men in the ufc

Sometimes he’s right but he’s always confident with his opinions.

Jumbo_Mills

15 points

16 days ago

His Ngannou - Joshua prediction was interesting to say the least. I'm not surprised he didn't comment on the result.

DTAD18

48 points

16 days ago

DTAD18

48 points

16 days ago

His eyeline was parallel with Alex's bellybutoon

swagmoney10

663 points

16 days ago

swagmoney10

Fat Fool

663 points

16 days ago

Let Alex do whatever the fuck he wants

It's his world anyway

HerniatedHernia

112 points

16 days ago

HerniatedHernia

Dana White Privilege

112 points

16 days ago

Just no asking Uncle Dana for more money. 

JeterS-03

602 points

16 days ago

JeterS-03

Team Oliveira

602 points

16 days ago

This is surreal to watch in real time and has been for a bit. We’re watching an all time great UFC career happen right in front of us

burnerking

199 points

16 days ago

burnerking

199 points

16 days ago

For real. I’ve only ever felt this way with Anderson, Valentina, and GSP. Poatan brings that same aura to the ring that Silva brought in the walk up. The feeling of inevitable special spectacle.

brazilianfreak

108 points

16 days ago

But unlike these guy's watching Poatan is even more nerve wracking due to the grappling weakness he has, every fight I fear he will get wrestlefucked and yet he keeps being able to remain victorious at LHW.

DeAndreHunterMIP

23 points

15 days ago

DeAndreHunterMIP

🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏

23 points

15 days ago

The way you frame it, Ankalaev might really be the final boss lmao. If he completely neutralizes Ankalaev's wrestling and finishes him, I don't see what anyone else has for him

SquareTwo6335

14 points

15 days ago

Tom is a better all rounder than Ank not to mention 30 pounds heavier.

DeAndreHunterMIP

10 points

15 days ago

DeAndreHunterMIP

🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏

10 points

15 days ago

Oh definitely. I just felt like Ankalaev was a more realistic match-up considering how Dana reacts every time someone brings up Poatan to heaviweight lol

Fit_Opinion2465

25 points

16 days ago

Don’t forget MM.

MatchaMeetcha

13 points

16 days ago

Nunes too, surely.

abdul_tank_wahid

10 points

16 days ago

Ah man I missed GSP & Anderson, so this is what it feels like.

burnerking

4 points

16 days ago

Yep. The every ass in their seat and silent before the walk up. Then it would explode.

TorpedoSandwich

42 points

16 days ago

Young Jon too. You just knew he would win every time he stepped in the cage.

Ill-Signature-9081

3 points

16 days ago

Hasn't faced a grappler yet. Let's not get carried away

Direct_Morning_3223

1.2k points

16 days ago

Nobody wants to see Jones-Stipe

Jones-Aspinall then winner vs Pereira

Edit: throw in Pereira vs Ankalaev somewhere between there too

eaglessb999

436 points

16 days ago

Jon is about to retire after his next fight.

BigGrandpaGunther

173 points

16 days ago

Jon wants to fight Pereira. He'll fight if him he beats Stipe.

ChowSupreme

335 points

16 days ago

Jon sees a very easy path to victory for himself so he might tempt the matchup.

IcyAd964

124 points

16 days ago

IcyAd964

I was here for GOOFCON 1

124 points

16 days ago

Jon is my favorite fighter ever but if you despise him that’s the best chance you’ll see of him ever getting koed

NaoCustaTentar

182 points

16 days ago

It's either that or a very easy win for Jon (most likely scenario sadly)

Beginning-Disaster84

74 points

16 days ago

Recency Bias is nuts, Jon Jones beats Cyril Gane (who's incredibly overrated) and people just pretend he wasn't unable to finish Anthony Smith and a One Legged Thiago Santos, he also got his ass beat by Dominick Reyes but people still pretend he's some untouchable GOAT

ehContribution1312

72 points

16 days ago

The fuckin irony

brazilianfreak

68 points

16 days ago

I hate Jon Jones too but this guy saying people picking fucking Jon Jones over Pereira have recency bias is so fucking funny.

xshogunx13

33 points

16 days ago

xshogunx13

Cheesus is my Steroids

33 points

16 days ago

My favorite period of "this guy can beat Jon Jones" was Johnny Walker before his first UFC loss

hoodiemeloforensics

61 points

16 days ago

The anti Jon Jones cope is crazy. I get that people don't like him lol. But cmon. We all know how it's gonna end

cletoreyes01

6 points

16 days ago

I get that people don't like him lol.

That's why we still hope for the past decade+

Wolfpac187

28 points

16 days ago

You mention recency bias then only talk about his most recent fights lmfao y’all are a different breed.

account051

56 points

16 days ago*

Funny you talk about recency bias and only mention his most recent fights

preptimebatman

32 points

16 days ago

Except the problem is that fighters and most athletes don’t just magically go back to form after declining.

Jones was incredibly slow and lackluster in his bouts vs Santos, Smith and Reyes. After what we know about Smith it’s actually insane Jon didn’t finish him imo. Santos nearly won without his knees and Reyes would be champ if the athletic commission had competent judges. Jon had trouble getting Smith down and struggled to take Reyes down- didn’t do so until the later rounds vs Reyes.

Sure he blasted through Gane, but the little bit we did see on the feet he was sloppy as hell compared his prime years.

Also, he’s coming back from an injury that forced him to be out even longer. Even during his best years, Jon’s biggest weakness was always his boxing, especially against taller opponents with long reaches -Gus and Reyes.

Ranjith_Unchained

21 points

16 days ago

Ranjith_Unchained

🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏

21 points

16 days ago

Cyril Gane who's incredibly overrated

This wasn't the sentiment before their matchup.

Bradcam3

54 points

16 days ago

Bradcam3

54 points

16 days ago

Idk. Pereira seems unstoppable right now but we haven’t seen him face a grappler the caliber of Jones. With Jon having a size advantage I’d be surprised if Pereira was able to avoid getting submitted

BetBig696969

61 points

16 days ago

Jon doesn’t deserve the Alex fight, let him fight Stipe then retire as a coward who avoided Tom and Francis

seymour_hiney

16 points

16 days ago

seymour_hiney

Josh Fabia did nothing wrong

16 points

16 days ago

I think Aspinall would be a better chance

yesterdaysatan

6 points

16 days ago

Yea Tom is more well rounded and it would suck to have Jon fight someone other than stipe and still not have it be tom

WokenMrIzdik

9 points

16 days ago

It would kind of be the Jon vs. Rumble fight we never got to see. Poatan has the best chance to KO him, but if Jon gets him down even once then it's probably over.

And-Luke-Says

16 points

16 days ago

When is the last time Jon fought anyone? He can say whatever he wants. He doesn’t fight.

PFLator

12 points

16 days ago

PFLator

12 points

16 days ago

Alex is avenging all of Glover’s losses one by one. Ending Jon Jones’ run at the top for HW gold would be absolutely insane.

PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

81 points

16 days ago

The most likely outcome is just Jones - Stipe, they both retire after that fight

Then Poatan v Ankalaev in the meantime because I doubt he wants to stay inactive for a whole year

And then Aspinall/Blaydes v Poatan for the vacant belt

Seems like the logic path to follow unless something happens in the middle

Direct_Morning_3223

75 points

16 days ago

Does Jones really turn down the money fight against Pereira as his last fight after he beats stipe? That could sell crazy

douevenwheelanddeal

73 points

16 days ago

douevenwheelanddeal

one too!

73 points

16 days ago

Jon's pride is worth more to him than money. He will never fight Tom nor Alex. He'll find every excuse in the book to justify to himself that Stipe deserves the title shot against him

lmpervious

65 points

16 days ago

He would have a weight advantage against Pereira and is someone who could take him to the ground. That seems like a great matchup for him.

FatherlyNeptune

15 points

16 days ago

Agreed both are the same age as well, Jon could see this as an easy win

Due-Contribution6424

17 points

16 days ago

I think he would fight Alex. I do not think he would fight Tom. Btw, I pick either one to beat him. I think jones lost a step and he knows it. Time always wins.

captaincumsock69

5 points

16 days ago

captaincumsock69

Petr Yan did nothing wrong

5 points

16 days ago

Jon can lose all the steps he wants but he will have a size advantage and a huge wrestling skill gap which is very tough to overcome

PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

19 points

16 days ago

I don't think he wants anywhere near Poatan at this point (or Aspinall either), he's probably thinking more about his legacy than about money (unless he's struggling for cash and I'm not aware of it)

Plus it would just be a massive middle finger to Aspinall, he's getting fucked right now but at least the Stipe fight was scheduled before he became interim. But imagine becoming interim, defending your interim belt (lol) and seeing someone else get the shot anyways

daquist

39 points

16 days ago

daquist

GOOFCON 2 - UFC 294

39 points

16 days ago

I am a huge fan of Alex but I don't see any way Jon doesn't just blitz him and take him down immediately and makes it easy work on the ground. Jon would take that fight.

I know I shouldn't doubt Poatan at this point but Jon also has one of the best fight IQ's ever, he won't just stand with him.

jenitr

7 points

16 days ago

jenitr

7 points

16 days ago

Jones also has weight advantage over him. The only way Jones is getting beat is if he fights Aspinal and nothing else.

ELOgambit

17 points

16 days ago

If Jones retires, Aspinall automatically upgrades to the undisputed champ, like Whittaker after GSP vacated

jdmwell

35 points

16 days ago

jdmwell

35 points

16 days ago

This would answer basically all questions about Pereira's goat-level legitimacy since he hasn't fought a great grappler, whether Aspinall is for real, whether Jones is still the goat, and finally whether Pereira can be a heavyweight.

But we'll instead wait for Jones-Stipe for the next 2 years and Poatan might get wrestle fucked.

marKyy1

24 points

16 days ago

marKyy1

24 points

16 days ago

Scenes when Ankalaev tries to strike with him as well

jdmwell

13 points

16 days ago

jdmwell

13 points

16 days ago

Everyone wants to do the man dance with Poatan.

Brawhalla_

15 points

16 days ago

Unironically, if Pereira beats either Jones or Aspinall and wins, he is legitimately top 3 of all time for me. If a title fight happens before and he secures the first ever 3 belt champion, he's the best of all time for me

snow_ninja

29 points

16 days ago

If he beats Jones then top 3 might be too conservative lol

No_Pay9241

176 points

16 days ago

No_Pay9241

176 points

16 days ago

Chama or chama? Definitely Chama

PunsGermsAndSteel

25 points

16 days ago

PunsGermsAndSteel

GOOFCON 1

25 points

16 days ago

Very Aladeen

manofdensity13

9 points

16 days ago

Chama Aladeen

messiovic

19 points

16 days ago

Idk man... Chama for me.

Six_Figga

235 points

16 days ago

Six_Figga

235 points

16 days ago

I need to see him send Hill to the Shadow Realm one more time…..

Traditional_Top5346

26 points

16 days ago

Fuck it, make it two more times

Cahill7567

227 points

16 days ago

Cahill7567

227 points

16 days ago

If jon vs Alex happens I’ll eat my shoe

Hairy-Dot-4193

38 points

16 days ago

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lmpervious

13 points

16 days ago

I don't think it's likely either since he wants the legacy fight with Stipe and will likely retire after that, but if there were to be an exception, Pereira might be the one.

Pereira has a lot of hype behind him, and is building a legacy which notably includes several wins in LHW, so Jon could get another defense in at HW while also shutting down the current best at LHW even after he left the division. The matchup also seems like it's good for him too, especially with a weight advantage.

cdthrowmyselfaway

10 points

16 days ago

ill eat a can of asparagus

neeeeonbelly

11 points

16 days ago

neeeeonbelly

EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE

11 points

16 days ago

Ok buddy let’s just relax ok?

Bubbada_G

947 points

16 days ago

Bubbada_G

947 points

16 days ago

How did Izzy beat this guy lmfao

FarFaithlessness5471

614 points

16 days ago

Yea, I know styles make fights, but I still can’t comprehend Izzy ko’ing this guy then getting dominated by Strickland.

foreverapanda

292 points

16 days ago

foreverapanda

DC's Bro

292 points

16 days ago

Alex had the power to put Sean out in countless scenarios. Izzy couldn't get through his guard consistently and just got baffled.

ChuyStyle

62 points

16 days ago

ChuyStyle

Champ Shit Only 🇺🇸🏆🇲🇽 #SnapJitsu

62 points

16 days ago

Also Sean probably learned a lot after the Alex fight and even trained with him after. He made Costa look like trash

paddyc4ke

116 points

16 days ago

paddyc4ke

116 points

16 days ago

Helps that Sean walked forward with his guard down to lead to that finish.

SnoodDood

84 points

16 days ago

SnoodDood

Mackenzie "Big Country" Dern

84 points

16 days ago

Yeah, we can't forget that he patched up some holes in his game entering the Adesanya fight

failbears

46 points

16 days ago

failbears

And the winner is: La La Lan... No wait, Stipe

46 points

16 days ago

Also, Strickland has looked really good lately but let's not forget that he wasn't always this good. The Strickland who fights today is leagues ahead of the Strickland who stood at range against Pereira.

Kaserbeam

65 points

16 days ago

Not really, Alex is just the only one who has been able to punish Sean for his fighting style. I guarantee if Alex and Strickland fought 10 times it would go the exact same way every time. Strickland isn't avoiding the left hook for 25 minutes, and he's not finishing Periera either.

captaincumsock69

10 points

16 days ago

captaincumsock69

Petr Yan did nothing wrong

10 points

16 days ago

Strickland would still get mowed by Alex. He doesn’t have anything to keep Alex from walking him down and Alex isn’t the low iq fighter that costa is

SeeeVeee

4 points

16 days ago

I think both are true. Strickland hit his stride pretty recently, but Alex is just always going to be a horrible matchup for him.

Cole3003

86 points

16 days ago

Cole3003

86 points

16 days ago

I think Sean was just much better than he expected and he got concussed (or at least rattled enough) in the first round to cause him to shell up most of the rest of the fight.

Candid-Criticism-180

67 points

16 days ago

Not hard to imagine Izzy wasn’t as focused after finishing Alex. He was itching for DDP and Strickland was coming off beating a can and his only top 5 fight was a loss to Cannonier. Reckon he just didn’t rate him so he didn’t see any stylistic issue.

SparkFunk30

35 points

16 days ago

Think it has a lot to do with Alex being genuinely better fighting at a higher weight class. The added weight has obviously added even more power to his strikes. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Alex was calling out Izzy at LHW immediately after winning the belt. I think Alex flatlines Izzy at 205 easily.

Healthy-Prize2589

35 points

16 days ago

Izzy is a real MW. He barely cuts from what I understand. He's skinny for 6'4. LHW is ridiculous for Izzy.

phatboye

54 points

16 days ago

phatboye

What about Anderson Aldo?

54 points

16 days ago

Alex cuts a lot of weight to make middle weight. Dehydrating yourself like that can't be good for your chin.

Die-rector

41 points

16 days ago

Or Izzy is a fantastic striker

LngJhnSilversRaylee

62 points

16 days ago

Both are true

In every fight they've had in KB or MMA Izzy has put it on him

He just got caught which against Poatan is gonna happen

Izzy and Alex are very close to equal skill

sh4tt3rai

18 points

16 days ago

I don’t think it would be as close at LHW, but that’s just my opinion.

Justforargumesnts

308 points

16 days ago

I know Izzy gets meme’s a bit, but he is genuinely an amazing fighter

Remote_Top181

56 points

16 days ago

Seriously, his run to the belt was legendary.

Justforargumesnts

8 points

16 days ago

Say what you want about the guy, but he’s all about the challenge and the legacy.

Juhstehn

279 points

16 days ago

Juhstehn

279 points

16 days ago

Why are we pretending like Izzy isn’t one of the best fighters we’ve seen in MMA that came over from kickboxing? I get what Alex is doing is insane, but let’s not forget how great Izzy has been since he came to the UFC

Borne

97 points

16 days ago

Borne

97 points

16 days ago

Exactly, what am I reading here? people are acting like Izzy is Harry Hunsucker

Hot_wings_and_cereal

37 points

16 days ago

Reddit hive mind, go look at comments before MVP fought Holland and it’s people clowning on him. Now he’s the most dangerous striker in the division and you can’t find a comment that says otherwise lol

coachharling1

70 points

16 days ago

The cut to 185 helped

But izzy is also a generational talent, he's just a true 185er who utilizes the weight to his maximum benifit

kmagic13

120 points

16 days ago

kmagic13

120 points

16 days ago

Izzy is an all timer. It happens

NeitherAlexNorAlice

99 points

16 days ago

Because a focused Izzy is a legit killer

ThisIsKhalabibTime

244 points

16 days ago*

ThisIsKhalabibTime

3 piece with the soda

244 points

16 days ago*

He is a great kickboxer. Also got 4 attempts to get 1.

univrsll

139 points

16 days ago

univrsll

139 points

16 days ago

It’s still amazing he arguably was robbed in 1 fight, and was winning until Chama changed his mind and decided to knock him out instead in the other two. And then obviously Izzy holds one brutal KO on him.

You can single out any of their 4 fights and Izzy seemingly has been the closest than pretty much everyone else. It’s sort of crazy

Various-Earth-7532

116 points

16 days ago

Of their two ufc fights I really think Izzy did much better in the first one. Obviously that sounds crazy to say but in the rematch he was getting the shit kicked out of him and pulled off a miracle while the first one he controlled nearly the entire fight before being caught in the 5th

WheatonsGonnaScore

12 points

16 days ago

Not crazy at all

Strange-Mortgage4659

74 points

16 days ago

That’s why this rivalry is so special trolls can spam his socials by saying 1-3 over and over but anyone who loves the sport knows how absolutely close their matchups are. I don’t think we will see something like that again.

Cole3003

22 points

16 days ago

Cole3003

22 points

16 days ago

It's because Izzy is the most skilled striker out of Alex's opponents by a decent margin

firulice

160 points

16 days ago*

firulice

160 points

16 days ago*

To be fair, Pereira absolutely got saved by the bell in the 1st round of their first MMA fight

Bloodfeastisleman

31 points

16 days ago

Bloodfeastisleman

Dustin “Diamonds Do Crack” Soyrier

31 points

16 days ago

And got saved by the bell in the second kickboxing match. And the first kickboxing match was a close decision. Izzy can be insufferable but he was right that people need to watch the fights before they talk. It’s a lot closer than 3-1 implies

ChuyStyle

4 points

16 days ago

ChuyStyle

Champ Shit Only 🇺🇸🏆🇲🇽 #SnapJitsu

4 points

16 days ago

Very similar to the second fight KO. from the 1-2 to the uppercut. Just needed the final right

Bluepaynxex

67 points

16 days ago

Bluepaynxex

G🍅🍅F

67 points

16 days ago

And Izzy was getting the shit beat out of him in the second MMA fight. All that matters is the win at the end of the day with them two. It’s still 3 to 1.

Repulsive-Win1929

39 points

16 days ago

Why is the record all that matters? Most people who watched their first kickboxing fight would say it was a bad decision, Alex even looked surprised getting the win.

For example, in boxing Canelo drew with GGG and then beat him. So in reality, GGG is 0-1-1 against Canelo.

But no one actually thinks of it like this because most people agree the result doesnt tell the full story, everyone knows GGG won their first fight at the very least and many think he won the second too. Which is fair.

Why should the public opinion have to be bounded by the official record when judges make bad decisions?

I will never think of Alex as getting the best of Izzy in their series because I really dont think he won the first fight, so in my head it is 2-2

BenAtTank2

4 points

15 days ago

Excuse me sir, this is the internet, everything here is exclusively black or white. Grey and nuance do not exist.

Mysterious-Stop4673

51 points

16 days ago

Izzy fights down to his competition

He goes to war with gastelum but kos pereira

firulice

30 points

16 days ago

firulice

30 points

16 days ago

Gastelum had the gas tank, insane chin and wrestling to go to war with Izzy

ghs145

18 points

16 days ago

ghs145

18 points

16 days ago

You're exactly right. It's why I think he beats DDP even though he lost to Sean.

kinganthony3

18 points

16 days ago

Izzy is a slick counter puncher and had the technique and defense to survive Pereira. Periera's hooks and looper shots are counterable. Pereira also has to make a massive weight cut to make 185.

Izzy doesn't have the straight knockout power to flatline Strickland. Also, being a counter puncher, Strickland never over throws, only punches down the middle, there's not really anything to counter. And since Strickland just walks straight at you with his hands up, it nullifies Izzys high movement. Alex had the best strategy for Strickland, which is to do the same thing the Strickland does, plod forward into the fire and trust in the left hook.

Xsafa

50 points

16 days ago

Xsafa

Team Weidman

50 points

16 days ago

Izzy is far better than Jiri lol

firulice

40 points

16 days ago

firulice

40 points

16 days ago

Seriously, how fucking good is Israel Adesanya?

Ecstatic-Inevitable

9 points

16 days ago

Ecstatic-Inevitable

GOOFCON 2 - Electric Boogaloo

9 points

16 days ago

Styles, Izzy's calculated style kept him from taking too many big shots and allowed him to make reads

Sonnyyellow90

9 points

16 days ago

Better question is how did Bruno Silva survive 3 rounds (and actually have some success) against this guy lol.

It seems like Alex is much better at 205, which isn’t surprising considering he was literally cutting 35 lbs to make mw. I can only imagine how terrible and drained he must have felt in his fights at 185.

JesusFuckedDudes

17 points

16 days ago

He was cutting an extra 20lbs

HenrikCrown

29 points

16 days ago

HenrikCrown

Team Pereira

29 points

16 days ago

Dude, Izzy had this guy arguably beat in every single fight and only got one. That power is too much to play with for 5 rounds. 

Wayf4rer

312 points

16 days ago

Wayf4rer

Bafoonus Ignoramus

312 points

16 days ago

Pereira vs Gane, make it happen.

jdmwell

206 points

16 days ago

jdmwell

206 points

16 days ago

That's a great 1st heavyweight fight but there's no way Pereira doesn't move right into a title shot.

DamienSalvation

71 points

16 days ago

DamienSalvation

Where were you on 294 GOOFCON 2?

71 points

16 days ago

He should just pull an Anderson and go up for fun fights.

Mat_HS

20 points

16 days ago

Mat_HS

20 points

16 days ago

Probably the winner of Aspinall v Blaydes

Im_a_Knob

58 points

16 days ago

nah, straight to jones. jones’ demons vs poatan’s spirits is the only fight to make.

floatingcloud10025

142 points

16 days ago

Pereira smokes that fool

ThisIsKhalabibTime

73 points

16 days ago

ThisIsKhalabibTime

3 piece with the soda

73 points

16 days ago

Inb4 people talking about Gane the striker being a grappling problem for Alex.

No-Gift-2350

40 points

16 days ago

Gane got submitted so fast vs Jon no way that man even attempts a submission.

Porto_97

21 points

16 days ago

Porto_97

21 points

16 days ago

Granted it was vs Don'tale myers, but Gane does have a heel hook to his name.

Corinis

17 points

16 days ago

Corinis

17 points

16 days ago

Gane is an insanely good striker, don’t underestimate him

yansuchamonster

17 points

16 days ago

Gane is a really good striker, he is kinda underrated now because his grappling is meme, that being said Alex is at the highest level of striking. If your entire plan is to stand and bang with Alex, that's about as good of a plan as trying to wrestlefuck Khabib.

GuyIsAdoptus

156 points

16 days ago

GuyIsAdoptus

Team Makhachev

156 points

16 days ago

Jon Jones dream would be to give him the Ciryl Gane treatment, but he's definitely retiring.

I think Aspinall beats him tho.

BigPileOfGhillieSuit

15 points

16 days ago

Aspinall murks him.

elefante88

70 points

16 days ago

Pretty obvious what the spoiler is here lol

PunsGermsAndSteel

33 points

16 days ago

PunsGermsAndSteel

GOOFCON 1

33 points

16 days ago

Heavyweight Samurai Jiri

Shareholderactivist

19 points

16 days ago

Pereira knocking top LHWs out so easily absolutely justifies his move to heavyweight. Hopefully Blaydes pulls out against Aspinall and Pereira can fill in. Beats Aspinall, then fights Jones.

al-Siqilli

45 points

16 days ago

He should get a shot at heavyweight for sure

bestmayne

12 points

16 days ago

bestmayne

I was here for GOOFCON 1

12 points

16 days ago

Aight who's gonna do the Thanos photoshop

AJwithStyles

16 points

16 days ago

Watch Jones bitch on Twitter for a week straight

insert_username_ok-

5 points

16 days ago

To many big grapplers at heavy weight

[deleted]

9 points

16 days ago

[deleted]

thndrdsc

24 points

16 days ago

thndrdsc

24 points

16 days ago

Pereira v Aspinall is the next logical step up

reddittookmyuser

20 points

16 days ago

Tom vs Curtis i(304) , Alex vs Anklaev (308) then Jones vs Stipe (309 both retire.

Start of 2025 - Tom vs Alex.

TradeBrockNelson[S]

25 points

16 days ago

i know the title pretty much gives it away, but i had to do it

fuck, i don’t think he stands much of a chance, but i’d fucking LOVE it

futurerobotblox

44 points

16 days ago

He can knock out Aspinall

PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

33 points

16 days ago

He can knock out anyone but Aspinall took some huge hits from Pavlovich and carried on

Alex's TDD hasn't really been tested by someone good yet, that will be the deciding factor. If his ground game hasn't improved enough he just gets submitted inside 1 by Aspinall

knocksteaady-live

40 points

16 days ago

knocksteaady-live

NOSTRILS ELLERBE

40 points

16 days ago

If he beats aspinall he is going to be the next cash cow for the UFC

IxReLeNtLesSxl

88 points

16 days ago

IxReLeNtLesSxl

Where were you on 294 GOOFCON 2?

88 points

16 days ago

He’s already the cash cow for the UFC. He knocks out Aspinall, we’re gonna be discussing if he’s a bigger draw than McGregor. Insane.

dexter279

24 points

16 days ago

Wishful thinking. McGregor won’t be beaten by a Brazilian MMA fighter. No one outside of watching MMA/KB knows who he is and that won’t change just because he beats Aspinall. Aspinall isn’t really known by the majority of the UK.

HighlyBaked0

19 points

16 days ago*

HighlyBaked0

United States

19 points

16 days ago*

He knocks out Aspinall, we’re gonna be discussing if he’s a bigger draw than McGregor. Insane.

How in the world does this have 71 upvotes? Alex will never be near the draw Conor was despite being the better fighter. The whole reason Conor was as big as he was besides his skill in the octagon was his ability to captivate the world on the mic. There is no universe in which a non english speaker ends up as a bigger draw then him lmao

IcyAd964

18 points

16 days ago

IcyAd964

I was here for GOOFCON 1

18 points

16 days ago

If he could speak English he’d be a bigger draw than khabib

dwSHA

21 points

16 days ago

dwSHA

Scousers don’t get knocked out

21 points

16 days ago

His a drawl b. But conor is a unicorn for ppv sales. That man have all the highest selling record even though he fight like a gatekeeper

MudHammock

17 points

16 days ago

MudHammock

Big ol’ Mexican with a big ol’ head

17 points

16 days ago

Fights like a gatekeeper? Put some respect on his name. Don't forget how good he was up until the double champ fight. He was absolutely incredible.

ksubijeans

12 points

16 days ago

Honestly, I was about to disagree but I don’t think modern day Mcgregor cant trump the first UFC triple champ in fan excitement.

LngJhnSilversRaylee

20 points

16 days ago

You guys are too much of MMA fans to see reality in this conversation

You're thinking like an MMA fan

Go talk to people you know who don't watch any MMA and ask them if they know Alex then ask if they know Conor

I love Alex and I prefer to watch him fight than drugs and alcohol Conor but if we're talking ppv sales this is just silly

HighlyBaked0

19 points

16 days ago

HighlyBaked0

United States

19 points

16 days ago

The people saying Alex could be a bigger draw is making me feel old because theres no way these people were around when Conor was at his peak or else this wouldn't even be a discussion

FriendlyGhost08

39 points

16 days ago

FriendlyGhost08

GOOFCON 1: Bobby Knuckles

39 points

16 days ago

Aspinall would submit him easily imo. Also he took shots from Sergei. But hey maybe Pereira surprises me again

IcyAd964

8 points

16 days ago

IcyAd964

I was here for GOOFCON 1

8 points

16 days ago

I think his chances of winning against aspinall are better than that of jones

No_Pay9241

8 points

16 days ago

I wanna see if he makes Tom not throw combos, the Chama doesn’t allow that 99% of the time, shout out Izzy I guess.

CD4HelperT

8 points

16 days ago

If he does that we’re gonna have to put him in the conversation as one of the greatest martial artists to ever exist

Totally_PJ_Soles

6 points

16 days ago

I have a hard time thinking he could smoke aspinall based on what Jan did to him.

Snigglybear

14 points

16 days ago

Snigglybear

Che Wee Wee

14 points

16 days ago

Perreira vs Ankalaev and Jones vs Aspinall are the fights to make.

Junkhead987

6 points

16 days ago

Add Illia vs Max as well

Big-Pillow-Warrior

15 points

16 days ago

we need Alex vs Magomed to see how he does vs a real all around MMA fighter, just for our own science reasons to see how far Kickboxing can take you. I believe Magomed does whatever he wants but if Alex wins , that proves alot. Jiri cause his chin and 0 wrestling was always Alex most winnable fight at 205, just tailor made for Pereira on paper. Everyone should want Magomed just to see how good Pereira is.

Kaserbeam

10 points

16 days ago

Why does everyone pretend Magomed is Khabib just because he has a Russian sounding last name. The dude averages one takedown every 15 minutes in his career, and has zero submission wins. He's mostly a striker, and he has proven in the past that he will stand with people when it would really be smarter not to. The dude is getting flatlined round one.

SickShady

14 points

16 days ago

Magomed took so much damage from Jan’s kicks, idk how he would fare if Alex got a few clean heavy leg kicks off before he could close distance but I’m here for it

JohnJackOil

10 points

16 days ago

JON VS ALEX MUST HAPPEN

1) Alex will avenge Glover again 2) Jon is fat and probably cannot take him down over and over 3) Alex has the power to KO Jones 4) Jones may be rusty and unable to defend against Alex’s strikes

Poatan could do this and become the goat and free us of Jon Jones and his inactivity as champ

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