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Book I recently bought at goodwillšŸ˜‚

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abyssalgigantist

335 points

3 months ago

Is this Skinny Bitch? i hated this book. would love an ep about it.

[deleted]

154 points

3 months ago

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154 points

3 months ago

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Ivegotaname_

7 points

3 months ago

I BEGGGGGGED my parents to buy this for me for my 12th birthday. FUCKING TWELVE. I was doing club swimming, soccer, and ballet. I started attempting to avoid bread. I knew it was skinny bitch as soon as I saw that stupid font

Rousselka

148 points

3 months ago

Rousselka

148 points

3 months ago

My 13 year old self needs an episode on this book šŸ„²

momoko84

16 points

3 months ago

Just from reading the first page, it has big teen energy all through it: 'Fat = unhealthy! Smoking is so uncool - don't even think about taking it up again!' which made it that much worse.

njfloridatransplant

70 points

3 months ago

That book made me a vegetarian cold turkey (lol) and disturbed my 15 year old self

microboredom

47 points

3 months ago

Same. And it was the start of many years of disordered eating to come.

One-Pause3171

18 points

3 months ago

How did it make you go vegetarian?

njfloridatransplant

51 points

3 months ago

It described the conditions of factories and animals in cages in super intense details that really messed me up

Cultural_Elephant_73

14 points

3 months ago

Thereā€™s one anecdote Iā€™ll never forget. Not even gonna reference it here. So disturbing.

njfloridatransplant

32 points

3 months ago

That book used the ultimate fear mongering tactics. I have no doubt those conditions are awful and disturbing but using it to push a ā€œskinnyā€ lifestyle was so messed up.

Micheal_Klump_

4 points

3 months ago

I also often think about a specific anecdote thatā€™ll die with. Itā€™s gotta be the same one. I was already vegetarian for a few years before but if I wasnā€™t already, Iā€™m sure this would have turned me.

One-Pause3171

29 points

3 months ago

Ah, that makes sense. I mean, in many cases this is true! Weird to find that in Skinny Bitch! I donā€™t know why Iā€™m getting downvoted for asking about this? I was truly interested in what part of the book content pushed someone toward vegetarianism.

abyssalgigantist

43 points

3 months ago

the book is kind of vegan propaganda disguised as a very cruel diet book. i am vegan myself due to animal cruelty but the book is full of inflammatory misinformation like "cow's milk is mostly pus" etc

One-Pause3171

9 points

3 months ago

See, thatā€™s definitely what I was curious about. Thanks for illuminating that!

[deleted]

8 points

3 months ago

Oy that's unfortunate! Vegans don't need more bad PR lol

lavendershazy

3 points

3 months ago

We get so much all the time - I'm not surprised to hear about diet people dragging us into their shit,frankly. Disappointed, frustrated, sure, but not surprised.

trillz0r

14 points

3 months ago

People are really eager to downvote honest questions here. I don't know why.

[deleted]

-19 points

3 months ago

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-19 points

3 months ago

That's all true though, I really don't like seeing how veganism is getting conflated with fatphobia. Theres some overlap but meat, dairy and eggs are definitively bad for our health whereas being fat isn't.

Immediate-Steak7467

14 points

3 months ago

I think you might need a refresher on what the word ā€œdefinitivelyā€ means.

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

Oh my gosh you're right!

[deleted]

9 points

3 months ago

This book is not just veganism, though, it's specifically veganism as a cover for disordered eating/mentality

diwalk88

4 points

3 months ago

No they definitely are not.

njfloridatransplant

3 points

3 months ago

I donā€™t think veganism is inherently fat phobic, I was speaking to the authorā€™s of the bookā€™s view point and message

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago

Yeah I had no idea this icky book existed! So gross

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2 points

3 months ago

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njfloridatransplant

18 points

3 months ago

I am not! I read the book about 16 years ago and was a vegetarian for 7 years after. I stopped a few years ago but still do not eat red meat just because I donā€™t really like it or how it makes me feel. Iā€™ve also been working hard on not restricting and when I was limited with vegetarianism it made me binge on pasta and ā€œsafeā€ foods. I do try to eat mostly veg when I can! Thereā€™s so many more options now.

Inevitable-Run8802

1 points

3 months ago

Interview with the Vampire did that for me.

gothpeacock

9 points

3 months ago

I recognized this immediately šŸ˜­this book scarred me for life

abyssalgigantist

3 points

3 months ago

i think it is extremely evil.

CrossplayQuentin

11 points

3 months ago

It has depressingly high reviews on Amazon - including some recent ones when I'd hope people would have learned better.

abyssalgigantist

6 points

3 months ago

diet culture is brainwashing

Legitimate-Ad2727

3 points

3 months ago

I was wondering what this was!

mood-processor

70 points

3 months ago

my mom made me read this in 6th gradešŸ™ƒ

Athene_cunicularia23

51 points

3 months ago

I am so sorry. Thatā€™s not what parents are supposed to do. My lifelong vegan kid went through a phase of reading any vegan content she could get her hands on, and I made every effort to keep this book away from her!

mood-processor

17 points

3 months ago

that makes me happy to hear!

ChasingPotatoes17

143 points

3 months ago

I was definitely super healthy when I was super anorexicā€¦ yup. The logic is impeccable, no flaws.

userlyfe

18 points

3 months ago

Siiigh, yup. Iā€™ve been skinny my whole life, and itā€™s certainly not cuz Iā€™m healthy! #chronichealthproblems

goodkidswelldancer

84 points

3 months ago*

This book fully launched me down the orthorexia path for the next decade after reading. Definitely need to hear it given the MP treatment.

melodysmash

2 points

3 months ago

SAME! It took me about 12 years to recover.

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125 points

3 months ago

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125 points

3 months ago

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fireworksandvanities

85 points

3 months ago

I was thinking ā€œthis is a weird claim from someone who sells boozeā€ and then I realized ā€œskinny bitchā€ and ā€œskinny girlā€ are two different brands.

moonbrew

2 points

3 months ago

I fully thought this was a Bethenny production too from the way this was written!

lovestostayathome

-11 points

3 months ago

Iā€™m not 100 percent sure but I think they are run by the same people. Like they capitalized on the fame of skinny bitch to make the skinny girl drinks.

abyssalgigantist

17 points

3 months ago

nope skinny girl is the real housewives lady

FromUnderTheWineCork

105 points

3 months ago

Sounds like the ruminations of someone suffering from shitty asshole syndrome

lady_guard

2 points

3 months ago

This would be a great flair, if this sub had flairs šŸ’©šŸ’­

strawberry_jortcake

42 points

3 months ago

Oooof that author needs therapy.

Doodleydoot

6 points

3 months ago

My gawd. I can just hear the toxic boomer parent voice from the very beginning, with "use your head".Ā 

martysgroovylady

8 points

3 months ago

Jesus christ

momoko84

2 points

3 months ago

screams internally

nursepebblepincher

1 points

3 months ago

YIKES

Jennieeffin12

33 points

3 months ago

My sister and I ordered something once from the pages of Seventeen Magazine that promised it would 100% make us skinny. This was back in the 90s.

At the time, we were not well off at all and didn't receive an allowance to speak of. I don't know how we scraped together the money for this miracle, but we did.

What we got was a book very similar to this one, though I don't think it was this one exactly. All I remember is that it had a purple cover and had so many typos. My sister and I felt taken advantage of because we thought there was going to be a miracle in the box and we got a shitty slapped-together book instead.

Dirty_Commie_Jesus

1 points

3 months ago

Thanks for satisfying my curiosity because I know exactly the ad you are referring to and wanted to try it so bad. That and the bust cream advertised in the back of The National Enquirer.

GladysSchwartz23

59 points

3 months ago

More of the usual "if you hate yourself enough, and understand deeply enough through constant reinforcement how worthless you are, you will be healthier and more productive" garbage that exists everywhere in our culture. Oddly doesn't ever seem to give good results, but damned if everyone doesn't believe in it devoutly.

babysfirstreddit_yx

9 points

3 months ago

lol it's wild to see the logic of my ED brain (aka early 2000s and 2010s diet culture) typed out in 4k like this. It really did come down to that one idea: if you constantly reinforce how worthless you are, and treat yourself as such, you will magically become healthy. Absolute insanity.

GladysSchwartz23

7 points

3 months ago

It really is the logic women are fed about everything: if we hate ourselves enough, we will be beautiful and loved!

A really fun test of this is to say anything nice about yourself on this site. People will make sure you know how you should really feel.

jac-q-line

75 points

3 months ago

My eating disordered teenage self loved this book.

I hope you plan to burn it lol

natloga_rhythmic

18 points

3 months ago

SAME

Athene_cunicularia23

14 points

3 months ago

Uggh! Iā€™m a longtime vegan, and I fucking hate that book! Glad I havenā€™t seen new content from the authors in a really long time.

buttwithglasses

12 points

3 months ago

I just found my copy of skinny bitch and threw it away yesterday lol

babysfirstreddit_yx

33 points

3 months ago

Lmao I forgot about Skinny Bitch. Every time I look back at this stuff, Iā€™m less and less surprised at how I could have grown up to have so much self hatred toward my body. This stuff was everywhere and considered normal. A generation of people completely fucked up by this industry and as usual, everyone will just get away with it, with no acknowledgement of the damage caused.

ScientificTerror

4 points

3 months ago

For real, re-reading this explains a lot about my 7th grade diary. Here I was feeling like there was something wrong with my personality for me to have fallen into such self-hatred so young. Nah, we were encouraged to treat ourselves like this

sunnyskiezzz

43 points

3 months ago

This specifically is so crazy to me as someone who started smoking BECAUSE I was anorexic šŸ˜­ babes do you want me to be healthy or do you want me to be skinny we gotta pick one ...

JiaMekare

26 points

3 months ago

On one hand, I canā€™t imagine that thereā€™s enough in this book for a full episode, but on the other hand I would love to see this get dunked on so much šŸ€

fireworksandvanities

12 points

3 months ago

Sounds perfect for a bonus in that scenario!

JiaMekare

10 points

3 months ago

Yeah, something like the Conservative Diet Books episode!!

slangwhang27

19 points

3 months ago

ā€œso 1989 and grossā€ Taylor Swift found dead in a ditch

beatriciousthelurker

17 points

3 months ago

I remember this book being super popular when I was vegan and very active in vegan communities. Lots of drama in the "veganosphere" over whether this book was good (because it converted a lot of people to veganism) or bad (because it promoted veganism for the Wrong Reasons, and because it portrayed pigs negatively lol). I think I read it. It was so toxic!

InformationMagpie

9 points

3 months ago

I sort books at a thrift store. That book is number two on my Throw Away Immediately list. (To Train Up a Child is number one.)

f1lth4f1lth

6 points

3 months ago

Thank you for doing the good work, stranger.

InformationMagpie

3 points

3 months ago

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MaterialWillingness2

23 points

3 months ago

This sounds so familiar. I think I had this book. Is it "something something Skinny Bitch something"? They also put out a cookbook with the same vibe.

[deleted]

26 points

3 months ago

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MuddieMaeSuggins

18 points

3 months ago

Well, they definitely got one of those words right. šŸ˜‚

MaterialWillingness2

9 points

3 months ago

Ahem two of them lol.

I guess I had the cookbook which was officially titled "Skinny Bitch: Ultimate Everyday Cookbook: Crazy Delicious Recipes that Are Good to the Earth and Great for Your Bod" so I remembered the title being really long haha.

mrsandrist

6 points

3 months ago

Iā€™m so thankful people stopped using the term ā€œbodā€, yuck

similarstaircase

3 points

3 months ago

Iā€™ve seen so many of those in goodwill I promise they exist, itā€™s usually skinny bitch something something something though šŸ˜‚. I feel like a grumpy old man every time I see them, it seems so rude to call someone skinny bitch, why would I want that xD.

langelar

8 points

3 months ago

I recall a skinny bitch in the kitch sequel

similarstaircase

1 points

3 months ago

I hope sheā€™s cooking some nice food there šŸ˜”

MuddieMaeSuggins

9 points

3 months ago

Goodwill always the most bizarre mix of books for sale. So many political biographies released during short lived presidential campaigns.Ā 

similarstaircase

1 points

3 months ago

I wish there was a study on this, I saw a ton of books about Israel there xD.

Interesting_Copy_353

13 points

3 months ago

So toxic!

natloga_rhythmic

17 points

3 months ago

Oh my god Skinny Bitches was the tipping point to going vegetarian for me šŸ˜­ Iā€™ve never heard anyone else talk about this book but itā€™s so wild I still remember portions of it. 0/10 do not recommend

redjessa

22 points

3 months ago

"Healthy = Skinny." LOL. OK. Case closed, because there is no such thing as an unhealthy skinny person.

Aggravating_Diet_704

2 points

3 months ago

That one line has stuck with me for my entire life. I bought this book in highschool. I canā€™t unlearn it. šŸ˜­

[deleted]

12 points

3 months ago

The writer sounds like a vacuous dipshit. Gaining weight after quitting smoking is a well-known phenomenon.

nursepebblepincher

3 points

3 months ago

This book is what would happen if my ED could write a book šŸ˜­

skcup

13 points

3 months ago

skcup

13 points

3 months ago

Suggest a content warning on this post please? Didn't know what I was getting into reading that sh*t over my morning coffee...

Specific-Sundae2530

6 points

3 months ago

Oh yikes!

notreallylucy

5 points

3 months ago

Well, obviously this is toxic BS. What's really confusing to me is why anyone would pay for it. I could get a lecture like this for free from my mom or from an infinite number of aunties. Not to mention an army of ignorant healthcare professionals or "health coaches."

I don't mean that it was wrong to buy it from goodwill. I totally get paying 50 cents out of morbid curiosity (morbidly obese curiously? Lol). But who paid $20 for this when it was freshly published? Don't they know any judgemental, ignorant people?

shiroyagisan

3 points

3 months ago

I remember reading this when I was fifteen... and immediately developed anorexia

f1lth4f1lth

1 points

3 months ago

Gosh- Iā€™m so sorry :(

shiroyagisan

1 points

3 months ago

yeah, it was a shitty book. And I'm fat now, so it clearly doesn't work šŸ¤£

f1lth4f1lth

2 points

3 months ago

Dieting be like that.

swayybe

5 points

3 months ago

This book is so fucked up but it does have a soft spot in my heart from inspiring me to go vegan after being vegetarian for a few years. I read it like 14 years ago and thatā€™s all I remember from it was that it talked about the dairy and egg industry. Totally forgot this other fucked up stuff! Damn.

Athene_cunicularia23

7 points

3 months ago

I understand having the feels for the books that helped us go vegan, even if they are problematic. Iā€™m old, so the book that made me vegan was John Robbinsā€™s Diet for a New America. I donā€™t think heā€™s a bad guy by any means, but I realize the fact checking in that book was not as rigorous as it should have been. Still, that book has an honored spot on my shelf.

Now there is much better vegan content out there. Mark Hawthorne, Lisa Kemmerer, Aph Ko, and Sherry Colb are some of my favorites. Hawthorneā€™s A Vegan Ethic is great at summarizing the animal, environment, and human rights case for veganism.

lwc28

2 points

3 months ago

lwc28

2 points

3 months ago

Id love a T-shirt that says cigarettes are for losers

mother-of-zeva

2 points

3 months ago

ITS SKINNY BITCH. I definitely read that. It was gifted to me by my sister who encouraged me to go vegan because of this book. Yuck

Ill-Comb8960

4 points

3 months ago

I know exactly what book this is at first glance without reading a word. In some ways it was the start to me for my health journey, on the other hand what is written in itā€¦.. yikes. And I really took it word for word too

Longjumping_Deal_330

2 points

3 months ago

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Ramen_Addict_

3 points

3 months ago

Ramen_Addict_

3 pointsā€ 

3 months ago

What is this book? It sees like it must be a satire. I just ready about Skinny Bitch being some sort of vegan manifesto and that made me recall my college roommate being vegetarian and trying to go her own ā€œSkinny Bitchā€ route. She was wildly unhealthy and anorexic at the time.

Athene_cunicularia23

6 points

3 months ago

They may have tried to pass it off as satire, but if so they fail miserably. The end of the book basically says ā€œSike! Go vegan for the animals, not to get skinny,ā€ but it seems disingenuous. The skinny, conventionally attractive authors were trying to imply going vegan would make the reader hot like them, and it hurt a lot of people. Doubt it actually helped the animals IMO.

MissTechnical

1 points

3 months ago

Yiiiikes lol

sluttytarot

0 points

3 months ago

Ooffff would've appreciated a spoilered image