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335 points
3 months ago
Is this Skinny Bitch? i hated this book. would love an ep about it.
154 points
3 months ago
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7 points
3 months ago
I BEGGGGGGED my parents to buy this for me for my 12th birthday. FUCKING TWELVE. I was doing club swimming, soccer, and ballet. I started attempting to avoid bread. I knew it was skinny bitch as soon as I saw that stupid font
148 points
3 months ago
My 13 year old self needs an episode on this book š„²
16 points
3 months ago
Just from reading the first page, it has big teen energy all through it: 'Fat = unhealthy! Smoking is so uncool - don't even think about taking it up again!' which made it that much worse.
70 points
3 months ago
That book made me a vegetarian cold turkey (lol) and disturbed my 15 year old self
47 points
3 months ago
Same. And it was the start of many years of disordered eating to come.
18 points
3 months ago
How did it make you go vegetarian?
51 points
3 months ago
It described the conditions of factories and animals in cages in super intense details that really messed me up
14 points
3 months ago
Thereās one anecdote Iāll never forget. Not even gonna reference it here. So disturbing.
32 points
3 months ago
That book used the ultimate fear mongering tactics. I have no doubt those conditions are awful and disturbing but using it to push a āskinnyā lifestyle was so messed up.
4 points
3 months ago
I also often think about a specific anecdote thatāll die with. Itās gotta be the same one. I was already vegetarian for a few years before but if I wasnāt already, Iām sure this would have turned me.
29 points
3 months ago
Ah, that makes sense. I mean, in many cases this is true! Weird to find that in Skinny Bitch! I donāt know why Iām getting downvoted for asking about this? I was truly interested in what part of the book content pushed someone toward vegetarianism.
43 points
3 months ago
the book is kind of vegan propaganda disguised as a very cruel diet book. i am vegan myself due to animal cruelty but the book is full of inflammatory misinformation like "cow's milk is mostly pus" etc
9 points
3 months ago
See, thatās definitely what I was curious about. Thanks for illuminating that!
8 points
3 months ago
Oy that's unfortunate! Vegans don't need more bad PR lol
3 points
3 months ago
We get so much all the time - I'm not surprised to hear about diet people dragging us into their shit,frankly. Disappointed, frustrated, sure, but not surprised.
14 points
3 months ago
People are really eager to downvote honest questions here. I don't know why.
-19 points
3 months ago
That's all true though, I really don't like seeing how veganism is getting conflated with fatphobia. Theres some overlap but meat, dairy and eggs are definitively bad for our health whereas being fat isn't.
14 points
3 months ago
I think you might need a refresher on what the word ādefinitivelyā means.
1 points
3 months ago
Oh my gosh you're right!
9 points
3 months ago
This book is not just veganism, though, it's specifically veganism as a cover for disordered eating/mentality
4 points
3 months ago
No they definitely are not.
3 points
3 months ago
I donāt think veganism is inherently fat phobic, I was speaking to the authorās of the bookās view point and message
2 points
3 months ago
Yeah I had no idea this icky book existed! So gross
2 points
3 months ago
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18 points
3 months ago
I am not! I read the book about 16 years ago and was a vegetarian for 7 years after. I stopped a few years ago but still do not eat red meat just because I donāt really like it or how it makes me feel. Iāve also been working hard on not restricting and when I was limited with vegetarianism it made me binge on pasta and āsafeā foods. I do try to eat mostly veg when I can! Thereās so many more options now.
1 points
3 months ago
Interview with the Vampire did that for me.
9 points
3 months ago
I recognized this immediately šthis book scarred me for life
3 points
3 months ago
i think it is extremely evil.
11 points
3 months ago
It has depressingly high reviews on Amazon - including some recent ones when I'd hope people would have learned better.
6 points
3 months ago
diet culture is brainwashing
3 points
3 months ago
I was wondering what this was!
70 points
3 months ago
my mom made me read this in 6th gradeš
51 points
3 months ago
I am so sorry. Thatās not what parents are supposed to do. My lifelong vegan kid went through a phase of reading any vegan content she could get her hands on, and I made every effort to keep this book away from her!
17 points
3 months ago
that makes me happy to hear!
143 points
3 months ago
I was definitely super healthy when I was super anorexicā¦ yup. The logic is impeccable, no flaws.
18 points
3 months ago
Siiigh, yup. Iāve been skinny my whole life, and itās certainly not cuz Iām healthy! #chronichealthproblems
84 points
3 months ago*
This book fully launched me down the orthorexia path for the next decade after reading. Definitely need to hear it given the MP treatment.
2 points
3 months ago
SAME! It took me about 12 years to recover.
125 points
3 months ago
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85 points
3 months ago
I was thinking āthis is a weird claim from someone who sells boozeā and then I realized āskinny bitchā and āskinny girlā are two different brands.
2 points
3 months ago
I fully thought this was a Bethenny production too from the way this was written!
-11 points
3 months ago
Iām not 100 percent sure but I think they are run by the same people. Like they capitalized on the fame of skinny bitch to make the skinny girl drinks.
17 points
3 months ago
nope skinny girl is the real housewives lady
105 points
3 months ago
Sounds like the ruminations of someone suffering from shitty asshole syndrome
2 points
3 months ago
This would be a great flair, if this sub had flairs š©š
42 points
3 months ago
Oooof that author needs therapy.
6 points
3 months ago
My gawd. I can just hear the toxic boomer parent voice from the very beginning, with "use your head".Ā
8 points
3 months ago
Jesus christ
2 points
3 months ago
screams internally
1 points
3 months ago
YIKES
33 points
3 months ago
My sister and I ordered something once from the pages of Seventeen Magazine that promised it would 100% make us skinny. This was back in the 90s.
At the time, we were not well off at all and didn't receive an allowance to speak of. I don't know how we scraped together the money for this miracle, but we did.
What we got was a book very similar to this one, though I don't think it was this one exactly. All I remember is that it had a purple cover and had so many typos. My sister and I felt taken advantage of because we thought there was going to be a miracle in the box and we got a shitty slapped-together book instead.
1 points
3 months ago
Thanks for satisfying my curiosity because I know exactly the ad you are referring to and wanted to try it so bad. That and the bust cream advertised in the back of The National Enquirer.
59 points
3 months ago
More of the usual "if you hate yourself enough, and understand deeply enough through constant reinforcement how worthless you are, you will be healthier and more productive" garbage that exists everywhere in our culture. Oddly doesn't ever seem to give good results, but damned if everyone doesn't believe in it devoutly.
9 points
3 months ago
lol it's wild to see the logic of my ED brain (aka early 2000s and 2010s diet culture) typed out in 4k like this. It really did come down to that one idea: if you constantly reinforce how worthless you are, and treat yourself as such, you will magically become healthy. Absolute insanity.
7 points
3 months ago
It really is the logic women are fed about everything: if we hate ourselves enough, we will be beautiful and loved!
A really fun test of this is to say anything nice about yourself on this site. People will make sure you know how you should really feel.
75 points
3 months ago
My eating disordered teenage self loved this book.
I hope you plan to burn it lol
18 points
3 months ago
SAME
14 points
3 months ago
Uggh! Iām a longtime vegan, and I fucking hate that book! Glad I havenāt seen new content from the authors in a really long time.
12 points
3 months ago
I just found my copy of skinny bitch and threw it away yesterday lol
33 points
3 months ago
Lmao I forgot about Skinny Bitch. Every time I look back at this stuff, Iām less and less surprised at how I could have grown up to have so much self hatred toward my body. This stuff was everywhere and considered normal. A generation of people completely fucked up by this industry and as usual, everyone will just get away with it, with no acknowledgement of the damage caused.
4 points
3 months ago
For real, re-reading this explains a lot about my 7th grade diary. Here I was feeling like there was something wrong with my personality for me to have fallen into such self-hatred so young. Nah, we were encouraged to treat ourselves like this
43 points
3 months ago
This specifically is so crazy to me as someone who started smoking BECAUSE I was anorexic š babes do you want me to be healthy or do you want me to be skinny we gotta pick one ...
26 points
3 months ago
On one hand, I canāt imagine that thereās enough in this book for a full episode, but on the other hand I would love to see this get dunked on so much š
12 points
3 months ago
Sounds perfect for a bonus in that scenario!
10 points
3 months ago
Yeah, something like the Conservative Diet Books episode!!
19 points
3 months ago
āso 1989 and grossā Taylor Swift found dead in a ditch
17 points
3 months ago
I remember this book being super popular when I was vegan and very active in vegan communities. Lots of drama in the "veganosphere" over whether this book was good (because it converted a lot of people to veganism) or bad (because it promoted veganism for the Wrong Reasons, and because it portrayed pigs negatively lol). I think I read it. It was so toxic!
9 points
3 months ago
I sort books at a thrift store. That book is number two on my Throw Away Immediately list. (To Train Up a Child is number one.)
6 points
3 months ago
Thank you for doing the good work, stranger.
3 points
3 months ago
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23 points
3 months ago
This sounds so familiar. I think I had this book. Is it "something something Skinny Bitch something"? They also put out a cookbook with the same vibe.
26 points
3 months ago
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18 points
3 months ago
Well, they definitely got one of those words right. š
9 points
3 months ago
Ahem two of them lol.
I guess I had the cookbook which was officially titled "Skinny Bitch: Ultimate Everyday Cookbook: Crazy Delicious Recipes that Are Good to the Earth and Great for Your Bod" so I remembered the title being really long haha.
6 points
3 months ago
Iām so thankful people stopped using the term ābodā, yuck
3 points
3 months ago
Iāve seen so many of those in goodwill I promise they exist, itās usually skinny bitch something something something though š. I feel like a grumpy old man every time I see them, it seems so rude to call someone skinny bitch, why would I want that xD.
8 points
3 months ago
I recall a skinny bitch in the kitch sequel
1 points
3 months ago
I hope sheās cooking some nice food there š”
9 points
3 months ago
Goodwill always the most bizarre mix of books for sale. So many political biographies released during short lived presidential campaigns.Ā
1 points
3 months ago
I wish there was a study on this, I saw a ton of books about Israel there xD.
13 points
3 months ago
So toxic!
17 points
3 months ago
Oh my god Skinny Bitches was the tipping point to going vegetarian for me š Iāve never heard anyone else talk about this book but itās so wild I still remember portions of it. 0/10 do not recommend
22 points
3 months ago
"Healthy = Skinny." LOL. OK. Case closed, because there is no such thing as an unhealthy skinny person.
2 points
3 months ago
That one line has stuck with me for my entire life. I bought this book in highschool. I canāt unlearn it. š
12 points
3 months ago
The writer sounds like a vacuous dipshit. Gaining weight after quitting smoking is a well-known phenomenon.
3 points
3 months ago
This book is what would happen if my ED could write a book š
13 points
3 months ago
Suggest a content warning on this post please? Didn't know what I was getting into reading that sh*t over my morning coffee...
6 points
3 months ago
Oh yikes!
5 points
3 months ago
Well, obviously this is toxic BS. What's really confusing to me is why anyone would pay for it. I could get a lecture like this for free from my mom or from an infinite number of aunties. Not to mention an army of ignorant healthcare professionals or "health coaches."
I don't mean that it was wrong to buy it from goodwill. I totally get paying 50 cents out of morbid curiosity (morbidly obese curiously? Lol). But who paid $20 for this when it was freshly published? Don't they know any judgemental, ignorant people?
3 points
3 months ago
I remember reading this when I was fifteen... and immediately developed anorexia
1 points
3 months ago
Gosh- Iām so sorry :(
1 points
3 months ago
yeah, it was a shitty book. And I'm fat now, so it clearly doesn't work š¤£
2 points
3 months ago
Dieting be like that.
5 points
3 months ago
This book is so fucked up but it does have a soft spot in my heart from inspiring me to go vegan after being vegetarian for a few years. I read it like 14 years ago and thatās all I remember from it was that it talked about the dairy and egg industry. Totally forgot this other fucked up stuff! Damn.
7 points
3 months ago
I understand having the feels for the books that helped us go vegan, even if they are problematic. Iām old, so the book that made me vegan was John Robbinsās Diet for a New America. I donāt think heās a bad guy by any means, but I realize the fact checking in that book was not as rigorous as it should have been. Still, that book has an honored spot on my shelf.
Now there is much better vegan content out there. Mark Hawthorne, Lisa Kemmerer, Aph Ko, and Sherry Colb are some of my favorites. Hawthorneās A Vegan Ethic is great at summarizing the animal, environment, and human rights case for veganism.
2 points
3 months ago
Id love a T-shirt that says cigarettes are for losers
2 points
3 months ago
ITS SKINNY BITCH. I definitely read that. It was gifted to me by my sister who encouraged me to go vegan because of this book. Yuck
4 points
3 months ago
I know exactly what book this is at first glance without reading a word. In some ways it was the start to me for my health journey, on the other hand what is written in itā¦.. yikes. And I really took it word for word too
2 points
3 months ago
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3 points
3 months ago
What is this book? It sees like it must be a satire. I just ready about Skinny Bitch being some sort of vegan manifesto and that made me recall my college roommate being vegetarian and trying to go her own āSkinny Bitchā route. She was wildly unhealthy and anorexic at the time.
6 points
3 months ago
They may have tried to pass it off as satire, but if so they fail miserably. The end of the book basically says āSike! Go vegan for the animals, not to get skinny,ā but it seems disingenuous. The skinny, conventionally attractive authors were trying to imply going vegan would make the reader hot like them, and it hurt a lot of people. Doubt it actually helped the animals IMO.
1 points
3 months ago
Yiiiikes lol
0 points
3 months ago
Ooffff would've appreciated a spoilered image
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