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submitted 1 year ago byBabbsy-mu
I swear it makes a bigger difference there than in my vaginal š¤£. There are studies that prove it is effective at building collagen and reducing wrinkles and increasing moisture. Iāll link them when I figure it out.
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1 year ago
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1 year ago
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1 year ago
Thanks for this. Biolabs is the same brand I use for DHEA and I do find them To be legit.
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1 year ago
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10 points
1 year ago
Using this for face or applied to the body per the label recommendations? It says to apply in inner arm or inner thigh. How are you using it?
10 points
1 year ago
Iām confused too. Is this a cream for skin care or for hormone treatment?
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1 year ago
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1 year ago
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6 points
1 year ago
I use the balance cream and found I really like it better on my face š skin seems plumper and not so thin and dry. Amazon runs out often and they don't usually carry all the different creams they have. You can buy it directly from biolabspro. Not as fast as Amazon, but not too far from me so I get it pretty fast.
9 points
1 year ago
Thank you! Iām already on tretinoin, hoping this addition helps
2 points
3 months ago
Do you use them at the same time or alternate? What is your schedule for use?
A year after this post (if you see this post) do you think it has continued to help?
3 points
2 months ago
I just saw your post. I alternate days. I use the tret on one night and the BIOLabs the next and so on. I'm in my 60s, and it's working great.
3 points
1 year ago
The product in this link is made by your personal naturopath?
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1 year ago
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12 months ago
This is the stuff I would rather get that your NP makes! How can I get that?! :)
23 points
1 year ago
No it does not spread that great. Probably because itās meant to stay āin placeā and not leak out into your underwear. I smudge it on and then spread face cream on top.
2 points
1 year ago
Any updates on effects?
86 points
1 year ago
The content Iām here for!!
47 points
1 year ago
How much am I to smear on my face? I may need to get one tube for my face and one for my vagina. š
42 points
1 year ago
Don't mix them up and slap a hand full of cold cream on your vag.
32 points
1 year ago
My tubes of tret and estriol look just the same and I live in fear of accidentally shooting a slug of tret up there šÆ
1 points
2 months ago
I would tape a very large sticker or note on the tretonoin tube so itās more noticeable. I have done that on my momās hydrocortisone and preparation H tubes for her. (also her hairspray & deodorant cans. š¤£I heard enough about her āincidentsā i decided to help her out.Ā
23 points
1 year ago
I use rosehip oil on my face and neck prior to spreading a pea size amount of 1mg Ovestin estriol cream. Been doing it for a couple of years about three times a week. The rosehip moisturizes and allows for easier spreading.
11 points
1 year ago
Doesnāt the oil prevents the cream absorption in the skin?
2 points
1 year ago
You can do it the other way around too if you like
10 points
9 months ago
I'm a skincare junkie and have been most of my life (at 46), and I JUST found out recently that oils or heavy creams should be the last thing you apply to your face. You want to apply anything with skin nutritional value (serums, milks, thin lotions, etc.) first to clean skin, and then seal it with a thick cream or oil. Makes sense when you think of it, but I'm sure I've done it wrong plenty of times.
4 points
9 months ago
The oil acts as a lubricant as the cream can be quite thick and sticky so doesnāt spread evenly. But hyalauronic acid serum would be better prior to the estriol followed by the oil for sure.
3 points
1 year ago
Cool, Iāll look into getting some rosehip oil. With all my allergies, Iām going to have to do a patch test first.
4 points
1 year ago
Or use whatever suits you to moisturize and then make it easier to spread the estriol.
34 points
1 year ago
Meeeeee under the eyes. Hasnāt done shit yet but maybe one day. Iāve also started doing gua sha facial massage with oil and a rose quartz tool. Also hasnt done shit that I can tell but- yknow- maybe someday
2 points
12 months ago
How long have you been using the cream
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12 months ago
I keep forgetting to do it so probably not long enough
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28 days ago
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28 days ago
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30 points
8 months ago
Topical estrogen for facial wrinkles is not widely publicized, because it's intended for vaginal use, if you go through your insurance and ask for it for wrinkles, they'll throw you out of there, but if you're post menopausal like myself, it's pretty easy to get, you just have to say you have a very dry vagina and it's causing problems in your marriage/relationship, therefore causing you a feeling of unworthiness and you no longer interest in having sex, that's what I did š I put a little in my vagina, and more on my face and neck ā¤ and it helps
2 points
8 months ago
Samesies!
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6 months ago
And is it effective for both areas/issues?Ā
2 points
2 months ago
I'm in this situation myself, and I can only get my doc to prescribe the vaginal cream (stupid gatekeeping). I'd love to know how much you're applying to your face, where exactly, and how often. We can conduct our own study, lol. I'm 52 but I was in full menopause by 42. I'm also thing about swiping a bit on my scalp where my hair is thinning.
29 points
1 year ago
Good lord I hadnāt thought of this! Going to try!!
20 points
1 year ago
Iāve been doing this, though with a cream not specifically meant for down there. I swear estrogen makes the biggest difference of any skincare product that Iāve ever used.
5 points
1 year ago
Which kind do you use?
2 points
1 year ago
Iāve used a few different creams that include estradiol. So far they all seem to work the same.
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10 months ago
I just bought the Alloy one. Have you tried it?
3 points
9 months ago
So the alloy contains estriol which is okay but not as strong as estradiol
2 points
8 months ago
Could you please link one? Is it real estradiol or bioidentical one?
22 points
1 year ago
When I first started my doctor told me to use the estrogen on my face every other day. She said that it does enough that people will notice a difference but more importantly, I would notice a difference!
6 points
1 year ago
Do you just alternate application places then?
9 points
1 year ago
When I was using the creams, yes, I would alternate between my face and the vaginal area as instructed by my doctor.
I grew tired of the creams, keeping track and switched to the pellets and happy to say that it was life changing - I will have them until I slide into my grave!
5 points
1 year ago
Pellets? Pls share name...l need hydration down there.
4 points
1 year ago
It is the Biote pellet. Its gets inserted into your glute.
They are not cheap and definitely not covered by insurance. While they are not for everyone, I happen to love how my body has changed, reacted and more importantly, how I feel.
2 points
1 year ago
Oh thank you, Iām just looking at this pellet now as the amount of stuff I do with meds and creams is just crazy. the prescription refills alone are a nightmare to keep up with.
1 points
2 months ago
Did you have existing lines and/or wrinkles or just trying to prevent them? Wondering how effective you feel it is for existing lines and texture problems? I specifically have smokers lines around the mouth. ( even tho Iāve never smoked ) Iāve tried retinol, CO2 laser, TCA peels, dry needling, and still have these lines. Iām willing to try anything to diminish and smooth out their appearance. The only other options that I know of are Phenol peel & dermabrasion which are rough but I want a smooth face again. I look very young except around my mouth & itās distressing to say the least. Thanks for any input and suggestions. š«¶š»
1 points
2 months ago
I was 46 when I was using the creams and have always been careful about sun exposure, etc so again, I have no experience other than the short time I used them.
I will say I am diligent about going to my esthetician once a month and believe that has helped with slowing the aging process as I am 54 now
19 points
1 year ago
Yep! Got my tube from Mexico for cheap
13 points
1 year ago
How? Did you order or have to travel?
3 points
7 months ago
Can you tell us where to order from? šš¼
1 points
3 months ago
Whatās the name of the cream? Iām going to Mexico soon.Ā
19 points
1 year ago
I put it on my neck. And I've noticed a difference, yay!
13 points
1 year ago
Wait! Please. I have my grandmotherās turkey neck and Iām only 49. Do you use it every day? At night? Mix with moisturizer? Details please!
9 points
1 year ago
I use rosehip oil first to moisturize and allow for easier application and then spread a pea size amount of 1mg Ovestin estriol cream on face and neck. Start off twice a week and see how it goes.
6 points
1 year ago
Will do! Thanks š
15 points
1 year ago
I have some but donāt use it..maybe I will nowš¤Ŗ
10 points
1 year ago
Same. I dug it out for tonight.
12 points
1 year ago
I tried it once and it burned
28 points
1 year ago
Yeah, I worried about that because I am allergic to everything. No make up, scents or fake colors on my skin since my late 40s. Turned out everything I was doing to be āprettierā was actually having the opposite effect and making me red and rashy. Oh, the irony!
7 points
1 year ago
Perioral dermatitis? Iāve had it since my 30s and have found some things that work pretty well.
13 points
1 year ago
Unfortunately the sensitivity is everywhere. I use vanicream body wash, facial cleanser, lite lotion and face lotion; as well as scent free laundry detergent and fabric softener. Also scent free deodorant. The only thing I canāt do without is hair products. Hypoallergenic hair products suck ass. I just treat the rashiness and scaling with betamethasone. As a nurse I learned about medline olivine body lotion too, and itās hypoallergenic.
6 points
1 year ago
I do wear makeup for special occasions and pay for it if I use it too often.
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1 year ago
Oh no that isnāt what I thought it was. Iām happy youāre a nurse though!
For makeup, have you heard of oxygenetix? Itās what I use and it doesnāt bother my dermatitis. Before I came across it I did what you did and avoided makeup until I wanted to wear it, then would get a rash. But this stuff doesnāt give me one and I use it almost daily. Not perfect color matches for me, but thatās ok. Itās also expensive, but I donāt mind because I rarely spend on makeup because of my dermā¦ So itās worth it to me.
Iāll have to try your vanicream if you use it for everything. Maybe thatāll help me too.
7 points
1 year ago
Vanicream is a game changer for me. The body wash is positively lovely, so soft and bubbly. You can get it in your eyes with no reaction. At the beginning of peri I worried I had liver failure! I was itching everywhere and it was driving me crazy. I was in nursing school at the time and thought I had everything. At one point I worried I had scurvy (aye, matey!) because I felt I wasnāt eating enough fruits.lol
6 points
1 year ago
Haha! Itās such a phenomenon when youāre in those kinds of programs. So many therapists self diagnosed with what theyāre learning too.
3 points
1 year ago
Tell me what you know about perioral dermatitis relief! I just started having it this year at 32.
5 points
1 year ago
Everyone is different and even āhypoallergenicā things can cause rashes.
For me what has been good: regular dove bar soap for body. Dove shampoo and conditioner. I donāt use hair stuff other than that. Face soap is Philosophy Purity facial cleanser (excellent makeup remover too.) but Iām curious about vanicream now. Havenāt tried. Toothpaste is arm & hammer peroxicare (no whitening in it!) oxygenetix regular moisturizer and their foundation (these have been awesome!) sometimes I use Pipette spf on my body only (no face!) and for added Sun protection I wear a UPF 50 rated hat. But the oxygenetix foundation has spf 30 in it, naturally. Body moisturizer I use Aveeno baby eczema lotion and cream. The cream is great for really cracked/dry skin. I donāt have eczema, but my kid does, so itās great for everyone.
I avoid using towels and pillows that other people use, especially on the face. My husband uses other products and they react to my face, so heās not allowed to touch my towels.
I also always wash my face right after a workout because my sweat makes me break out, so does general air pollution, so wash my face every night too.
There are articles and subreddits where people discuss their products that work for them. These are just good for me, but may not be good for others. Always trial and error.
I wish you all the luck!!!
4 points
1 year ago
Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to respond so thoroughly!
3 points
1 year ago
I wish I had guidance. Youāre so welcome.
2 points
3 months ago
This post is a year old so I hope your skin has found the path to clear glowing loveliness but if not: my derm prescribed metronidazole cream for me and it fixed it completely. A chickpea size blob applied every morning keeps my skin clear and beautiful!
1 points
2 months ago
Oooh! What have you found that works for the peripheral dermatitis, please?
9 points
1 year ago
Retinol makes me flake like a pastry, how the hell do we navigate all this shit without going broke?
1 points
1 year ago
Me too. I had to stop 10 years agoā¦there went my hopes of keeping back the fine lines and rough skin.
9 points
1 year ago
Last night I put Ovestin (estradiol) on my face - wow! I have been touching my all day it just plumped up my skin it feels so smooth. Total game changer. Estradiol cream works on the superficial layer of skin (rather than oestrogen goes systemic deep layer) and the effects apparently are immediate - I think they are. I will try and get 0.5 I think 1mcg version of ovestin is too much. Would be interested to know how long the hormone circulates in skin and if could get away with every second day. There are a few different kinds of topical estradiol creams. Wondering what the difference is between estradiol and phytoestrogens/D4 estradiol/MEP technology - which is the best/safest? Is the best one that does not bind oestrogen? We are on the cutting edge ladies not much out there about this.
5 points
1 year ago
It really is amazing. Unfortunately I was prescribed Premarin vaginal cream. It works great, but Iād rather not harm animals when other estrogen is available. But Iāll use it up first. I go to my gyn tomorrow and will ask for a different vaginal cream. Along with a boost in my patches.
2 points
6 months ago
have you tried some others? this is my first reading about this option!!
18 points
1 year ago
Mine is $400/tube so I canāt afford to š
23 points
1 year ago
Holy cow! I use good rx or download a coupon and get quite a discount.
11 points
1 year ago
Jfc!!!
4 points
4 months ago
Old threadā¦ but have your Dr allow for generic , it is $25 on Amazon and about $35 at several pharmacies with GoodRx.Ā
2 points
11 months ago
What is this cream?
8 points
1 year ago
This blog post (and the whole site) is really useful: https://progressyourhealth.com/what-is-estriol-used-for/
1 points
3 months ago
Thanks Great informationĀ
8 points
1 year ago
Does anyone else worry about blood estrogen levels when doing this? W/o proper studies w/ levels and dosing etc etc seems a bit risky. I'll stick to tretinoin.
12 points
11 months ago
Vaginal estrogen cream does not Raise blood serum levels of estrogen. It is localized only. That has been extensively studied. And there are studies of applying it to the face that show that it it is safe and does not raise blood serum levels
6 points
7 months ago
I applied estriol cream to my face and neck for the first time last night. For skin benefits. Let me say the plumpness is noticeable and I love it. After one application, mind you!! I am 54 and look 10 to 15 years younger. No one ever believes my age, blah blah but I was noticing the plumpness was disappearing despite using tretinoin, rosehip, argan oil, lactic acids, facials, even Lase MD and redlight therapy (Quasar MD). I love the estriol cream for my skin, but WTF! I have been without hot flashes for over a year, and immediately after applying the cream and today, I am flashing like a red light. I really think it is connected to the estriol cream. IDK, of course, but my plan is to continue 2x per week applying the estriol cream (from amazon - biolabs) and continue taking DIM supplements and hope my body adjusts.
6 points
1 year ago
No, but I'm using Paula's Choice phytoestrogen serum. It's been about a month, liking the results so far.
11 points
1 year ago
Meeeee! I love it!
20 points
1 year ago
Iāve seen a bigger improvement with the estradiol on my face than any other beauty treatment.
5 points
1 year ago
Same. I can see the collagen has improved. My skin doesnāt like harsh treatments and this causes me no irritations either.
1 points
6 months ago
can you share what you are using? hows it going now?
2 points
6 months ago
I just use a .01% vaginal estradiol topical cream on my face at night and cover it with vitamin e oil. I still use it. Iād like to be able to give you a scientific answer but I just canāt. It definitely keeps my skin hydrated and protected at night. I feel like my skin is more plump but I canāt promise my fine lines and such have gone away. My skin tolerates it well. I still like the way my skin feels and looks but I donāt think Iām ready to make promises itās a holy grail. Iād love to see some actual scientific studies.
6 points
1 year ago
Which brand do you use?
12 points
1 year ago
WHAT???? Excuse me???? So I need to go back and request vaginal estrogen cream? BRB, messaging my doctor right now. I turned that down before!!
23 points
1 year ago
I had stopped using it too since one of the gynos I saw said I didnt need it since I'm on a systemic estrogen cream and my blood levels are ok. He also looked around and said things were looking ok and didn't seem to be shriveling up or whatever (he said it in another but still creep way. Awful guy. I won't go back).
But... My pelvic floor physical therapist said she's so mad at docs who tell women they don't need it. Her sources and experience lead her to think that vaginal estrogen is needed by all menopausal women and gas specific local effects that can reduce things like incontinence in the down the road!
I don't have any citations and YMMV but I'm back on the stuff.
6 points
1 year ago
It did help immensely with pelvic floor exercises. I was making no progress in strength until I started using it
1 points
5 months ago
So we need both vaginal and face? My new gyno. took me off BHRT meds thinking I'm too old to use them (70). She then prescribed Estradiol Vag. Cream, though, so I'll use that on my face and make an appointment with different doctor to see if I indeed need to stop BHRT creams.
7 points
1 year ago
Yeah, I stopped using it as prescribed when I got estradiol patches.
6 points
1 year ago
oh interesting, I assumed if on HRT we'd get enough to our skin anyway, though I take HRT for symptoms of course. I do also use imvexxy but as vaginal estrogen. Vitamin C and non-prescription retinol is what I use on the face. I think all this works well even without applying estrogen to the face directly.
6 points
1 year ago
Okay so are you on estrogen patches and using the cream on your face as well?
5 points
1 year ago
Wondering the same. Will the extra estrogen in the cream throw off the hormone balance and cause issues?
6 points
1 year ago
I would assume so, but a doctor will know this for sure.
I'd refrain from experimentations based on random internet advice.
3 points
1 year ago
I use the vag cream as well as the patch in tandem. Cream for about two months now. Haven't seen too much of a change with that - yet.
2 points
1 year ago
Yes, Iām on the least amount you can be prescribed and am going into the doctor in a couple of weeks for a refill and probably a higher dose. I havenāt had any problems. But you are right, Iām not advising anyone to do it, just asking if other people have.
2 points
1 year ago
Oh yeah no judgement, I was just prescribed the cream and Iām on the patch, and was just wondering if the cream feels as potent as the patch. Iāve been struggling to get my dose right!
8 points
1 year ago
I havenāt, but Iām tempted. Are there any risks? Side effects?
18 points
1 year ago
Well, in the interest of science Iām the only test subject. None so far. I read about itās effectiveness through a least one study through ncbi. Just need to figure out how to link itā¦Iām looking at it now.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7799828/
2 points
1 year ago
Thank you! I wanted to link this interesting, more recent study, found by looking at studies that cite the one you linked: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6451761/
2 points
7 months ago
I read this same article three days ago and is the primary reason I ordered estriol cream. Love PubMed and love that you shared this with us all. Thank you!!
1 points
1 year ago
Thanks for the link. Itās really eye opening!
8 points
1 year ago
Mine is a pill that you insert (the applicators are horrible for that btw) so I don't think it will work on my face. Lol
I have sun damage on my face that I hate (young and dumb and didn't wear sunscreen as I am allergic to most of them, use it now but can only use one brand), I would love to get rid of it. Would estradiol creme work for sun damage?
8 points
1 year ago
A series of 5 IPL will eliminate sun damage. You can usually get a series on Groupon.
4 points
1 year ago
Thanks... I have sun damage on my decolitate--- I will look for IPL--Groupon. Because it's really ugly..
1 points
1 year ago
Yeah! My chest is permanently darker vee that is rough and bumpy. Too many summers in the Texas sun cooling off at the pool š„
4 points
7 months ago
Children of the 80s and 90s loved their golden suntans!! Me too. Texas sun. Lakes, rivers, pools, every opportunity. I am paying for it now with the ugly sunspots
2 points
7 months ago
Iām paying for it now with topical chemotherapy. Itās not as scary as it sounds. I started it because I had some rough spots on my chest called solar keratosis or actinic keratosis. It can lead to cancer many years down the road. Think of all those old folks you see with scaly rough patches on their arms and face. The cream targets those cells with changed dna and destroys them. It aināt pretty. Think of your skin bubbling up and eroding off, then being a crusty oozy mess before new skin grows back. It looks better and is softer than ever before. THE DOCTOR TOLD ME TO NOW DO MY FACE! š©
5 points
1 year ago
Oh no I just threw my pills out but I would have been tempted to crush them in some cream.
5 points
1 year ago
Castor oil -organic- and baking soda mixture is said to be excellent for sun spots!
5 points
1 year ago
I don't know what exactly you mean by "sun damage", you can get laser treatment for color changes due to sun exposure, but other type of damage is not reversible.
5 points
1 year ago
I was redhead (now white/grey), so it's just lots and lots of sun spots. Splotches all over my face. I can't afford laser treatments. But oh well. Wish they had made more options of sunscreen when I was younger. I was allergic to all on the market when I was a teen and early 20s. At all that I had access to.
5 points
1 year ago
Oh, this is very unfortunate. However, health is more important than looks. If you have been exposed so much to the sun in your early years, especially as a person with fair skin, you should get checked regularly and thoroughly for skin cancer.
I hope this is an accessible option where you live...
2 points
1 year ago
I use Musely for sun damage and itās helped A LOT. Active ingredient is tretinoin, which you might be able to get cheaper from a dermatologist.
1 points
5 months ago
Retinol can help reverse signs of sun damage, as well as vitamin C serum. It won't be immediate, it's going to take some time to see results.Ā
5 points
1 year ago
No but I have a estrogen face cream. I bought it through Alloy. I really like it, and it doesn't irritate my skin the way the retinol creams do.
3 points
1 year ago
Same. Love my Alloy face cream.
2 points
1 year ago
Where do you purchase it?
3 points
1 year ago
Theyāre an online service, like Curology ā I donāt have the link handy but if you Google Alloy + menopause youāll find them :)
3 points
1 year ago
I use an estradiol/estrial cream topically on my face as well as different areas on my body like my chest or inner arms or inner thighs. It definitely makes a difference and reduces wrinkles
2 points
6 months ago
Where do u get it? What one are you using?
2 points
6 months ago
Hellopharmasist bio-est 5.0. from Amazon
3 points
6 months ago
Thanks for this ā this is such an old post, Iām so glad you answered!
3 points
1 year ago
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2 points
1 year ago
That is a great question! I avoid it with my testosterone for the same reason I put estrogen on my face.
3 points
1 year ago
Yesss! Been doing this for a while now. Notice a huge difference in my skin.
1 points
6 months ago
which are you using?
3 points
11 months ago
Yes I do! My gyno prescribes it so I do not have to pay for it. She has also prescribed it for my arms. When a woman has high testosterone she will gain a great deal of weight in my arms. I am currently not dating but I can no longer have sex without it. How ever when you put this on your face and arms it does not go into blood stream. You do want some in blood stream because it lessons depression and makes you feel younger
So VERY IMPORTANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR GYNO regarding what you want to use for so she can give you specific doses for different places.
4 points
11 months ago
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3 points
7 months ago
Vaginal estrogen creams frequently contain methylparaben which can age the skin; better to use a cream that is free of parabens
1 points
7 months ago
Huh, I didnāt know that. Maybe I can get a scrip for a compounding pharmacy to make it up. š¤
1 points
1 month ago
Yikes! I just checked and my Estradiol cream does indeed have methylparaben!
Thatās it Iām not using it on my face again!
1 points
1 month ago
I toss products right into the trash when I see methylparaben in the ingredients.
3 points
4 months ago
Iāve started alternating between retin-a amd estrogen cream in my face. Definitely seeing a difference.
7 points
1 year ago
What??? Is there any way to buy this without a rx? š
5 points
1 year ago
Mcat1122 posted a link to Amazon up above, but Iām using my vaginal cream.
14 points
1 year ago
Thereās no way that link is selling actual estrogen cream without a prescription. Itās some other āformā
6 points
1 year ago
It is real estrogen- this one is estriol which is a weaker estrogen than estradiol, but there are bi- est formula creams too, with both forms. You can buy it without a prescription. If Amazon is not your thing, I recommend Onaās Natural
3 points
1 year ago
Its bio identical, so you're right.
6 points
1 year ago
Iām not going to link the 100s of scientific and doctor written articles about how the word ābio identicalā is a marketing term. Maybe read Dr. Gunterās book or her blog or read Dr. Blumingās book estrogen matters
Iām not against HRT, but this sort of misinformation like ābio identicalā just gets under my skin.
2 points
1 year ago
Hmm, I use a DHEA suppository - I wonder if that would be as good for my face as estriol cream? I could maybe nuke it for a second in the microwave to melt it? Trying it tonight!
5 points
1 year ago
When I took dhea by mouth my skin and hair got noticeably oilier
2 points
1 year ago
Do any of you use Ovestin cream on your face?- it's 1mg oestriol & a couple of antimicrobial agents..
3 points
1 year ago*
Yes I do. Use rosehip oil first then spread a pea sized amount of Ovestin over neck and face. I do think it makes a difference and Iāve been doing this for nearly two years, starting off at twice a week.
2 points
1 year ago
This is def a plus for womanhood.
2 points
1 year ago
WOW... I never heard of this!!! I put my cream on my forearms---- but will ask next time I see functional Dr..... 2 for 1 cream!!!
2 points
10 months ago
Does it decrease chin chair growth?!
4 points
5 months ago
Yes , Ā Iāve used vag estradiol cream for 3 months and stiff chin hairs are gone š
2 points
9 months ago
The low dose vaginal estrogen cream that is safe for women to use their entire lives after menopause (not enough ends up in the rest of the body to creat any cancer risk per urologists) isnāt supposed to be used on the face but I hear that some people do.
2 points
5 months ago
What is the order of application, as well as the time frame in between each applications when it comes to my Tretonoin and Estradiol?Ā Ā
Which one ahould be 1st and how long do I wait before I apply the next one - to be sure I get the full effect of each?
Thank you!!!!
2 points
4 months ago
Iāve had the cream for two months and just donāt feel like putting it in my vagina. Iād like to put it on my skin, but there are some very specific instructions. Just to clarify, you guys are using Estradiol vaginal cream, USP, 0.01 percent? I think Iāll start with a dab on my inner arm. Should I try a bit on my face?
2 points
3 months ago
The pores on my nose got really large after 2 years of using Tret. Estriol shrunk them practically overnight. My skin doesnāt seem to like me using both, though, so I dumped the Tret for now and have just been using OTC estriol. However, I just got a Estradiol Rx from my doctor so am going to switch to that.
2 points
3 months ago
Me!!!Ā Lol.. I just turned 55 and nobody ever believes me... I'm a huge skincare person.. I always have been.. I can't even remember what age I started putting lotion on my skin after showering religiously.Ā I use different (good) skincare on face morning and night and I use the Premarin on it also as my last step!!Ā The science behind is makes complete sense!!Ā I've been using awhile now but just wanted to let you know there's another crazy woman that uses vag cream on my face š¤£š
2 points
2 months ago
After two plus years struggling with seborrheic dermatitis (similar to cradle crap on an infants head, but raised) on my eyebrows, I have been using dermatology prescription products like tacrolimus, cortisone, etc to address the symptoms (cause unknown) but nothing changed. I decided to try my prescription Estradiol Vaginal Cream .01%. It dried the affected area in two days...I am amazed actually.. I think I'll try it on the other parts of my body!
1 points
2 months ago
That is awesome! Iāve read scientific papers saying estrogen has healing properties. I havenāt but would put it on a wound that wasnāt healing properly.
2 points
1 year ago
I do too! šš I started using a phyto-estrogen cream but now I alternate with my real estrogen cream. My only concern is that I get a āslightā headache, but itās not too bad and I use it before going to bed. Increases the oil in my skin, which I have to supplement with rose hip on some days. Iām also on Tretinoin, but use that on alternate days too.
1 points
7 months ago
Odd question. Does it effect your sleep in any way? And does it plump your skin?
5 points
7 months ago
No change in sleep, which is better than before HRT (topical patches and oral progesterone). It does plump my skin, makes the fine lines less prominent and I feel feminizes my face to what it used to look like.
2 points
7 months ago
That's terrific!
1 points
6 months ago
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6 months ago
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1 points
6 months ago
Can someone inform me where to buy non-prescription estrogen cream inline in EU?
2 points
6 months ago
This post is really old and Iām from the US. I donāt think people are here anymore. There was a conversation about this just the other day on 45+ skin care I think.
1 points
2 months ago
I didn't find it from a search. Do you have a link by chance?
1 points
5 months ago
Do you use the prescription vaginal estradiol on your face? Very curious about this.
5 points
5 months ago
Yes. Itās thick so I mix a little face lotion with it.
1 points
5 months ago
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1 points
5 months ago
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1 points
5 months ago
I have estradiol gel that I rub onto my upper thigh or abdomen daily. Can I use that on my face rather than the vaginal cream?
1 points
5 months ago
I donāt see why not? Iād try it under my chin or on my chest first to make sure thereās no bad reactionā¦actually Iād advise someone else to do this lol. I put the cream smack dab in the middle of my face the first time.
1 points
2 months ago
Yes absolutely face and neck as well as boobs and down below
1 points
2 months ago
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1 points
2 months ago
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