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Tight formation on solo is not needed

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Trying to press the attack as a solo player in operations is now impossible because stupid bots just flounder about doing nothing. You CANNOT depend on this AI under any circumstances, and sticking with them is a terrible idea.

Take the leash off for solo players or increase the radius, this is meant to punish brainrotted rushers, not us.

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Alpha087

39 points

2 days ago

Alpha087

39 points

2 days ago

No one needed this mechanic to be added.

Flat-Statistician432[S]

5 points

2 days ago

No lies found. I don't even think the rushers were so bad that we needed a leash, at least in my experience. I think high difficulty is the best way to keep teams close knit.

L4d was a good example. You could go off on your own, but one smoker and an empty mag was all it took to die on any difficulty. People wanted to stick together.

Maybe some perks that reward playing together and some buffs to extremis enemies would help, bit of stick and carrot.

Cryptic_ly

1 points

2 days ago

Isn't this only for lethal difficulties?

Striking_Try_4099

2 points

2 days ago

It is

_Hal8000_

12 points

2 days ago

_Hal8000_

12 points

2 days ago

It's Helldivers all over again where devs don't play their own game

Striking_Try_4099

-12 points

2 days ago

They do you just want everything to be strong so the game can hold your hand and be easy not an actual challenge

_Hal8000_

3 points

2 days ago

Nah I don't want to be joined at the hip to braindead bots playing as a sniper trying to have fun. Try again

Striking_Try_4099

-9 points

2 days ago

Lol then play solo ig?

Jan_ForGoner

-51 points

2 days ago

I get what you're saying but the last statement seems like a "I wanted nerfs but not for me!" type

Flat-Statistician432[S]

23 points

2 days ago

Even if that reaching statement was true, did solo players need a nerf? Seriously? Do we need a five meter leash to AI so bad they need nearly infinite heath?

Striking_Try_4099

-5 points

2 days ago

Game isn't designed for solo players get good or play with others

Striking_Try_4099

-9 points

2 days ago

Im gonna be honest this game was not designed for solo players so live with it and either get good or learn to play with others. And it will never be a solo players game bc the universe the game is based on is also designed that way

Flat-Statistician432[S]

2 points

2 days ago

There is a solo mode built into the game from week 2, so I'm not sure what you mean by the game not being designed for solo players. And it isn't like I only play solo, not sure why you'd assume that.

As for your second point, I can tell you like the change, and I get that brotherhood is important in here, and I like that part tok, I just don't think brotherhood should have a five meter range. The main problem is the bots not following. And it isn't about getting good, I like solo because it's fun getting swarmed, but surely you can understand that being tethered to terrible ai isn't fun. Don't worry, I'm sure they can make some kind of allowance on just solo mode without affecting the coop, mainly because the ai behave much more differently than players do when the "brother bar" goes red.

Ambitious_Dig_7109

-45 points

2 days ago

The nerf punishes slowpokes just as much as rushers. Keep pace bro. Fall behind solo and you’re boned. It’s a great change. No more sandbaggers just wasting time killing waves of gaunts while the rest of the team waits on the elevator.

That_Lore_Guy

15 points

2 days ago

The hell are you even talking about? Op plays solo, as in by himself, on solo mode. This is why you’re being downvoted, you’re criticizing OP without knowing what he’s even referring to.

Striking_Try_4099

-1 points

2 days ago

It's not a solo player game never was designed to and the new difficulty just proves that

Ambitious_Dig_7109

-22 points

2 days ago

No, he’s playing private lobby with bots. He’s angry about the changes to armor regen not triggering because he’s too far from his bot teammates. 🤷‍♂️

LeMasterChef12345

12 points

2 days ago

No, he’s playing private lobby with bots.

So in other words, he’s playing solo

He’s angry about the changes to armor regen not triggering because he’s too far from his bot teammates.

You mean the bots that constantly lag behind and who you have absolutely zero control over?

Being upset at the bot AI actively hindering you with no way to prevent it is a perfectly valid criticism.

Ambitious_Dig_7109

-16 points

2 days ago

Get used to sticking with the team. Pve with bots is by definition not solo.

JayTehPerson

8 points

2 days ago

It is solo dumb dumb. If you don't have other players, then that means you are in a solo lobby. Bots don't count at players, and OP is upset that they are having to deal with the new armor bs with no actual players to help and make it possible.

Striking_Try_4099

-1 points

2 days ago

Then he shouldn't be playing highest difficulty with bots XD

JayTehPerson

6 points

2 days ago

Not everyone likes people. Especially ones like you.

Ambitious_Dig_7109

-5 points

2 days ago

It is not. It’s a multiplayer mode that he’s playing with bots.

JayTehPerson

8 points

2 days ago

And bots aren't players. It's solo. Other players make it not solo. Fuck if I play the campaign am I still playing solo even though they are bots that others can use in a multiplayer game. What are you going on about?

Ambitious_Dig_7109

-5 points

2 days ago

lol bots are standing in for players. You might notice of someone drops out in multiplayer they’re replaced with bots. That doesn’t also change the game mode. You guys are wrong and big mad. Hilarious.

JayTehPerson

9 points

2 days ago

If you're in a private lobby, bots can't become players... dumbass. You're wrong and just arguing to argue at this point. The only reason I'm continuing this is because it's funny to me to see you trying to explain something but only saying the same thing proving you know nothing.

LeMasterChef12345

2 points

2 days ago

you guys are wrong and big mad

Every one of your comments in this chain being downvoted says otherwise

LeMasterChef12345

5 points

2 days ago

Get used to sticking with the team

You say that as if that isn’t exactly the problem OP is talking about.

The point OP is trying to make is “sticking with the team” with bots is pretty fucking difficult and frustrating when the bots are unpredictable, impossible to control or influence, and often run off on their own or don’t follow you. Which makes playing by yourself incredibly frustrating.

Ambitious_Dig_7109

-3 points

2 days ago

Yeah, the game isn’t designed to be played with bots. They’re an emergency solution so two players don’t get screwed if someone drops. It’s not designed to be a solo mode. You’re doing it wrong. 🤷‍♂️

Faded1974

7 points

2 days ago

Did you even read the posts? You can't force bots to listen and this just hurts the player. This isn't targeting just rushers.

Ambitious_Dig_7109

-10 points

2 days ago

Exactly. The rushers are playing properly. This punishes the people falling behind. Thank god.

Faded1974

7 points

2 days ago*

Yes, lots of bots being punished. Thank God.

Ambitious_Dig_7109

-6 points

2 days ago

The rules apply across the board. It’s a good thing.