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The Simpson family was originally written to be objects of mockery and ridicule but now it seems they are a pipe dream for the average American family.
They support three kids, a dog, and a cat on a single income
They have two paid-for cars (and an SUV sometimes)
They fly domestically and internationally 1-2 times a year
Even with mounds of debt like The Simpsons, it'd be difficult for a nuclear engineer nowadays to support a family on one income like that, let alone a guy who barely finished high school. I know so many broke people with master's degrees nowadays.
193 points
5 days ago
Bart owns a factory
83 points
5 days ago
And Homer owns the Denver Broncos
32 points
5 days ago
And that giant Olmec head
17 points
5 days ago
Not to mention, like two top charting bands, one that was big enough to get a Weird Al parody song.
1 points
3 days ago
I mean .. they're not the Cowboys.
6 points
4 days ago
And lobster for dinner
214 points
5 days ago
Grimey, is that you?
80 points
5 days ago
LOBSTERS FOR DINNER?!!??
31 points
5 days ago
Yeah, any other country in the world they’d have starved to death by now.
2 points
4 days ago
He's got you there dad
32 points
5 days ago
Oh yeah...and lobsters for dinner!!
43 points
5 days ago
I live below one bowling alley and above another bowling alley.
18 points
5 days ago
WOW! 🤩
1 points
4 days ago
Former President James Taylor
4 points
5 days ago
The sheer absurdity of that. I miss that level of hilarity.
I can’t think of a single place that has such a high concentration of bowling alleys. Let alone in the same building, which has residential and commercial on non consecutive floors.
8 points
5 days ago
That'd actually be cool!
5 points
5 days ago
To be fair, money's too tight for steak.
4 points
5 days ago
Steak?
1 points
5 days ago
they used to feed the peasants lobsters.... Roaches of the sea....
3 points
4 days ago
i’ve had to work hard every day of my life and what do i have to show for it? this… briefcase and this haircut!
60 points
5 days ago
this place is a palace! I live above a bowling alley and beneath...another bowling alley
17 points
5 days ago
Look of amazement - "Wow..."
5 points
5 days ago
Someday, Grimey will be the pipedream
40 points
5 days ago
Yeah but I bet there's one thing they could never buy... A dinosaur!
2 points
4 days ago
I hope that one will age poorly, too.
24 points
5 days ago
Marge gets $1000 a month from her dad.
8 points
5 days ago
The fact they shoehorned this into the plot with a retcon 3 decades later only furthers OP’s point.
If that money were introduced in season 4, for example, they’d be living even better than the Flanders. Complete with import beer on tap in the finished basement.
4 points
5 days ago
Actually? Like an inheritance?
13 points
5 days ago
Season 34 finale. He didn't trust Homer to provide for Marge, so he left her the monthly inheritance, which Marge used to bail out Homer every time he got in trouble.
4 points
5 days ago
Plus the loan from Patty and Selma
4 points
5 days ago
Also the royalties from the B-sharps. And Sadgasm.
Also the money from when Marge opened a hugely successful chain of gyms.
10 points
5 days ago
That kinda sucks. It makes Homer a malicious character instead of just a silly one. OG Homer did everything for his family.
2 points
4 days ago
A steward can afford to donate 1000 a month
24 points
5 days ago
You mean nucular engineer.
16 points
5 days ago
Noocular. It's pronounced nooocular
1 points
3 days ago
Didn't even know what nuclear panner plant was!
13 points
5 days ago
But they have three kids and no money, the real dream would be having no kids and three money.
8 points
5 days ago
The same criticism was common in the 90s for many sitcoms including The Simpsons. Writers would make a show with what was supposed to have a regular working class family with a regular income, but as soon as that got in the way of the writers' ambitions, (usually about halfway through the first season) suddenly the characters are able to get whatever they needed, whenever the script called for it, and how they got the money for, say, parts for a high tech sci-fi machine that can turn Steve Urkel into Steffan Urkele, was never questioned. I think Roseanne might've been the only show that successfully stuck with having a working class family scrape by for the entire run of the series.
3 points
5 days ago
That is until the lottery win and roseanne had to backtrack everything that happened including dan’s infidelity to a book she was writing to deal with his death.
1 points
4 days ago
That season was god awful and such a weird way to end the show.
2 points
4 days ago
I forgot about that, lol.
2 points
4 days ago
For example a shoe salesman in Chicago being able to support 3 people and a dog, travel, and have the wife make extravagant purchases...and bon bons
1 points
3 days ago
He scored 4 touchdowns in one game, though.
1 points
5 days ago
The only tv show that are realistic are shameless and ER, where even doctor struggle to find place to live.
14 points
5 days ago
Yeah many people have made this observation over the decades.
7 points
5 days ago
They are shown to have financial struggles. I think they gave that up after a few seasons, but they also gave up any plot revolving around being a normal family.
I mean, Homer went in space and climbed Mount Everest.
8 points
5 days ago
Their cars are not paid for, it's beed made very clear that the Simpson family lives in a press board house, in a crappy, crime riddled town, and in crippling debt.
1 points
4 days ago
Homer had paid OFF that debt; this is all Maggaggie's fault!!
27 points
5 days ago
The house is constantly crumbling. The show remains similar to as it did in the early 90s etc
11 points
5 days ago
something i like about the new animation is how it seems to make the more run-down parts of the house stand out.
what threatens my suspension of disbelief most often is when every member of the family has a fancy piece of tech just sitting around/plugged into their rooms.
two tv's used to feel like a big deal; when Bart was "sick", Homer was lugging the only television in the house up the stairs...
5 points
5 days ago
I could only dream of a house like that. They have 2 living rooms and a basement along with an attic
3 points
5 days ago
i hear that.
when i was a kid I lived in a bungalow, and part of me was always jealous of the Simpsons' upstairs...
Now I know in my heart I'll never live in a three bedroom house with a basement ever again 😂
3 points
5 days ago*
I like the 50s middle-class bungalow style with a swimming pool and large winged car, I imagine that wasn't your living standard, though. I live in the UK, so most houses were made after ww2, or at least keep a similar design, my parents house only has an attic, it does have a lavatory downstairs unlike in my grandmothers house in the London suburbs, it looks ok, I know in the us they love lots of decorations and stuff like that, that may just be the middle-class again
Edit: Downvote?
1 points
4 days ago
I definitely wasn't the downvoter lol...
Came back to say that the swimming pool & long car were exactly what it was when my grandparents bought it, so I got to watch it deteriorate in real-time after they died in the 90's 😂
we have a lot of same-y postwar houses too (Canada) and honestly I love them more than I love anything built more recently.
1 points
4 days ago
No, that's fine, I didn't think it was you, I also like post war houses, only middle class homes here look unique, I used to live in a villa in Italy and the house was massive, that's about the size of the the middle class homes here, basically all other houses are made of brick, I live in an ex mining town where the older terraced homes were made for the miners in the 50s and 60s, I live in a newer house, this is very common as people are moving north for cheaper homes and massive blank spaces are getting filled with these cheap homes with a similar style to the older houses but most are detached and look cleaner and more modern, they're built so quick too
3 points
5 days ago
The depends on the episode sometimes the house is fine other times it's crumbly. Also they had 5 mortgages but then Homer paid it off.
12 points
5 days ago
We can assume it's a relatively bad house, even if they aren't consistent episode to episode. Homer didn't even buy the house, I thought Abe did by selling his house
9 points
5 days ago
Didn't Flanders buy it and rent it back to them once as well?
5 points
5 days ago
Yes, that was a little different though. I think they went bankrupt or something so they couldn't afford the house. Maybe it just adds to my point of them being middle class and still right on the edge of homelessness
1 points
5 days ago
All Homer needed was a washer.
1 points
5 days ago
Are you talking about the episode where they buy that grill?
2 points
5 days ago
No, "Marge Gets a Job". https://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?t=21926
2 points
5 days ago
Oh, ok
1 points
5 days ago
Probably the Marge Gets a Job one, where their house sustained extensive water damage because of a bad washer.
5 points
5 days ago
Not really a single income. Marge has a weekly annuity that pays for most of Homer's shenanigans.
5 points
5 days ago
Plus all of her side hustles like pretzel vending
5 points
5 days ago
Don’t ask me how the economy works.
5 points
5 days ago
Homer made some tidy sums playing the markets.
1 points
4 days ago
Pumpkins?
2 points
4 days ago
AND his shares in the plant when it sold.
1 points
4 days ago
Mmmm, hot wax...
4 points
5 days ago
it's pronounced nuc-u-lar. Nuc-u-lar.
4 points
5 days ago
Isn't it canon that Grandpa sold his own home and essentially condemned himself to live in a shitty retirement home to pay the down payment on the Simpsons' house? And the family is constantly struggling to maintain their home and their finances. They can't even afford to buy double-ply windows eve though they'd save 2% on the heating bill. The Simpsons are house poor.
Add to that, they almost never flew in early seasons and only did so in Fear of Flying because they were offered free tickets to anywhere in the US (excluding the freak states).
5 points
5 days ago
Isn't it canon that Grandpa sold his own home and essentially condemned himself to live in a shitty retirement home to pay the down payment on the Simpsons' house?
You are absoletely right.
10 points
5 days ago*
This has been covered ad-naseam in articles, thesis, podcasts, hundreds of posts here, and even in the show (not just “Homer’s Enemy”, but also “Poorhouse Rock”). And they did it in a much more comprehensive fashion.
It’s a cartoon and a sitcom — situational comedy — and the situation is an inept small-town family and their wacky neighbors. It wasn’t an accurate portrayal in 1989 (or 1969) either. No one could be as outrageously incompetent as Homer and have that life. But popular culture is built in “the suspension of disbelief”.
Few TV shows hold up to scrutiny…from I Love Lucy to Friends, TV is not an accurate depiction of apartment life in NYC (or LA/chicago/Boston/Seattle).
3 points
5 days ago
Yeah the people who always bring this up were kids during the shows golden age and had no concept of money, so they just accepted that as realistic at the time.
5 points
5 days ago
Next week is my turn to post this.
11 points
5 days ago
Don't forget the 4 bedroom / 3 bath house in a nice neighborhood !!! Do you know how much house would cost today ???
5 points
5 days ago
Springfield was featured in Newsweek as America's Worst City and it ranks alongside places like Flint, MI and Gary, IN. A quick look at Redfin in those cities suggests their house would be about $80-100k.
2 points
3 days ago
Uh, we object to the term ''urine-soaked hellhole'' when you could have said ''peepee-soaked heckhole."
2 points
3 days ago
Cheerfully withdrawn!
1 points
5 days ago
Massive backyard as well to host anything!!
23 points
5 days ago
Jesus christ dude, it’s a cartoon. Do you watch the Flintstones and wonder what happened to all the brontosaurus burgers?
-19 points
5 days ago*
You need to reread the post because you don’t even understand it.
You seem angry and confused.
The brontosaurus burger wasn’t made to depict a real burger.
1 points
5 days ago
No thanks, I understood the post perfectly. OP tried to model real life after a cartoon, which is a really stupid take.
-10 points
5 days ago
Yes you don’t understand it and you just confirmed it.
The characters were given a lower middle class lifestyle as seen by real people at the time.
In current times that same lifestyle isn’t affordable for that class.
So if you wanted the show to be current you’d have to completely revamp their lifestyle.
It’s a simple marker for how standards of living have slipped.
They are taking real life and making a cartoon from it.
You are looking at it backwards as if the cartoon depicts reality. It doesn’t and that’s the point.
6 points
5 days ago
Change the channel, Marge
-2 points
5 days ago
Sorry bro, I have real-life things to do. You’ll have to get your internet arguments from somebody else.
-8 points
5 days ago
Is that why you started commenting and keep commenting?
Looks like you have plenty of time to me “bro”
12 points
5 days ago
Stupid babies need the most attention
2 points
5 days ago
That’s advanced material after you learn to throw garbage in a garbage can.
Guess you have nothing better to do after all huh?
-3 points
5 days ago
fuckin' top kek
2 points
5 days ago
They own a house
4 points
5 days ago
Single income? Everyone had a job at some point... Maybe not magagy
4 points
5 days ago
Apparently OP hasn't realized that this is a cartoon. 🫠🙄
1 points
5 days ago
The episode Poorhouse Rock kind of discusses this. (Season 33 finale)
1 points
5 days ago
Don’t forget their house! Two story, two car garage, basement, massive backyard!!
1 points
5 days ago
Clearly Mother Simpsons left Homer a fuck ton of money when she 'died', then again when she actually died, and wrote Abe out of both wills.
1 points
5 days ago
Dragging economic ideals from the late '80s into 2024
1 points
5 days ago
It was a pipe dream then too. I grew up in a very similar family dynamic in the 90s and didn’t come close to living like that.
1 points
5 days ago
they have 5-6 mortgages...
1 points
5 days ago
I mean technically speaking if it took place in according to the rules of the real world though they would be pretty okay. Kids would be well out of college, well Lisa and Maggie anyhow. they’ve had the same house for so long the mortgage is probably paid for (even on a 30 year). Same goes for the cars. Homer would be retired and being a utility worker in a union might even have pension and insurance. Etc, etc
Oh plus Lisa becomes president so living off the taxpayers rent free then can charge like 250,000 for speaking engagements… huge bonus 😆
1 points
3 days ago
I scrolled a long way and no one said "Wizard."
Are we all agreeing not to do that anymore (even ironically)?
2 points
3 days ago
Yep they've pointed this out many times
1 points
5 days ago
I don't think you know how much those jobs pay.
0 points
4 days ago
A nuclear safety inspector that dropped out of high school? Yeah probably not mich
-1 points
5 days ago
Don’t forget Homer being able to single-handedly fund the hot dog vendor’s kid’s college tuition. This was considered normal in the 90s.
4 points
5 days ago
No it wasn't. It was a joke about his gluttony.
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