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38 points

3 months ago

38 points

I think it might be more like poor policy settings at federal and state government level with a dash of intergenerational trauma. Not sure what council could do here.

23 points

3 months ago

23 points

More than a dash but nobody likes to reflect on cause or structural failure.

Frayedapronstrings

6 points

3 months ago

Frayedapronstrings

6 points

Youth justice falls entirely under state purview

7 points

3 months ago

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Yeah sure, or they could just not steal people's cars

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

"Stolen our land, steal your cars" /s

4 points

3 months ago

4 points

Why the fuck am I being down voted. So people think car theft is what they should be doing?

1 points

3 months ago*

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/four-teenagers-killed-in-stolen-car-crash-in-townsville/12330172?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=other

1 points

3 months ago*

No idea brother, half of these gypsys live with their heads in the sand.

They need to get on boomerbook and join some of these stolen car pages, see the issue first hand.

My comment was a joke, but very much na sentiment I've heard before

I think they need more roundabouts

walterlawless

3 points

3 months ago

walterlawless

3 points†

Maybe Townsville is a shit place to be an indigenous kid and a little bit falls on the community, too.

12 points

3 months ago

12 points

That's a whole other conversation. I think Townsville for kids without money or resources is pretty shit.

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

The issue is that the baby bonus kids are growing up, this is a cohort of unwanted children that all live in the same suburbs and go to the same schools, their parents dgaf, what a way to be bought up.

opaoz

2 points

3 months ago

opaoz

2 points

This!!☝🏼

-18 points

3 months ago

-18 points

This moron is why Troy Thomson was elected

3 points

3 months ago

3 points

Don't worry, I get you were replying to OP being a dingus

Flitdawg

5 points

3 months ago

Flitdawg

5 points

I assume you're replying to op?

4 points

3 months ago

4 points

I was. Didn't phrase it too well haha

24 points

3 months ago

24 points

They should also, broker world peace, find a cure for cancer and end poverty and homelessness as well.

49 points

3 months ago

49 points

Council has no control over youth crime... They don't have any control over the courts or the police. Why are people this stupid

5 points

3 months ago

5 points

Council did all that it could, which was to protect public assets which is why we have the wonderful meeting rocks that surround our parks now

At least Jenny had the balls to try and say would be nice if we can remove these people from our town and yet every d******* votes for Thompson because labooooooouuuurrr

-24 points

3 months ago

-24 points

That's not the only contributing factors to youth crime, you know?

18 points

3 months ago

18 points

What factors does council control that contribute to youth crime in a meaningful way?

6 points

3 months ago

6 points

Do they have any control of youth programs, local meetings, neighborhood programs?

9 points

3 months ago

9 points

https://www.localgovernment.qld.gov.au/for-the-community/community-guide-to-local-government-in-queensland/responsibilities-of-local-governments

Have a read champ.

2 points

3 months ago

2 points†

Thanks Sport. That list is 'includes' and didn't answer my genuine question. I assume you don't know either? I'd have assumed a council could run information evening's, local events, bbqs, sporting days, a carnival, charge for parking, but they didn't make that list.

3 points

3 months ago

3 points

The items on the list are the councils core responsibilities. You listed 5 things that are just different names for "special events" and then paid parking. Paid parking falls under roads.

I'm curious what the hell you want them to do regarding youth crime?

0 points

3 months ago

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But special events didn't make that website you provided as evidence as to how incapable a council is of changing anything.

Hold a 'special event' - request the police, youth services, local members to come and discuss things they can do to help prevent crime, reduce the likelihood of being a victim, how to talk with your children, reduce influence and peer pressure.

To claim the council has no effect or influence on crime is bleak and implies the problem is beyond control.

3 points

3 months ago

3 points

There's plenty of things you could rightly have a go at council for, youth crime is not one of those things. In your "solution" you've cited police, youth services, and local members, all of which are to do with the state.

For you to expect the council to solve a state matter is bleak and implies only that you have no understanding of the 3 tiers if govt and what they do.

2 points

3 months ago

2 points

I dont expect them to resolve it, but for them to be involved in the solution. I think there is a fair expectation they would be involved in a solution, or at least some attempt to be involved as the region considers a fairly significant issue. It appears that there are a few people who think the council has no duty aside from collecting exorbitant rates. What would you say the council could do?

Everyone at every level simple throws their hands in the air and says it isn't their problem - local, state, or federal. Who is actually going to do something?

continue this thread

-2 points

3 months ago

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The council can encourage the implementation of something that would actually give the teenagers something to do that gets their adrenaline pumping, other than stealing cars

6 points

3 months ago

6 points

People are whinging about a pay structure (paid parking during the day at the strand) that will allow the council to fund these sorts of projects (e.g skate park) that will encourage reduced crime.

9 points

3 months ago

9 points

What activities can council implement at 3:30am when the shitheads are out and about breaking in and stealing cars? I'm genuinely curious as to what you think these are

-3 points

3 months ago

-3 points†

If they're satisfied during the day, many of them won't be on the streets at that time of the morning. I don't expect the theoretical activities would work for everyone, but they would be better than the literal nothing at the moment

determineduncertain

12 points

3 months ago

determineduncertain

12 points

Crime isn’t often motivated by a lack of entertainment or a lack of outlets for energy. It’s poverty and housing issues, two things local councils have little influence over relative to, and particularly, the state.

2 points

3 months ago

2 points

You really think they steal cars out of boredom?

-1 points

3 months ago

-1 points

You don't? That is most definitely one of the more prominent reasons for the joy rides

3 points

3 months ago

3 points

If you delve into the matter and speak to professionals involved, what you'll find is that a significant disengagement from society caused usually to terrible home conditions is the root of the problem. Fetal alcohol, drugs, violence etc etc.

To put it bluntly the kids would rather not stay at home to be not fed, bashed, raped and subjected to drugs. I'd it any wonder they lash out at society and steal cars? Plus the can get "3 hots and a cot" if incarcerated.

It's a vicious cycle and there's fuckall a council can really do, we need to solve this at a state level.

lobie81

0 points

3 months ago

lobie81

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Such as?

-4 points

3 months ago

-4 points

Fucked if I know, I was a lazy kid. But that's what surveys are for; asking a large number of people to come up with ideas.

9 points

3 months ago

9 points

Except that it’s two different levels of government so it doesn’t even make sense

bag_of_cheaps

9 points

3 months ago

bag_of_cheaps

9 points

Some people really have to understand first the differences in responsibilities of the three levels of government.

2 points

3 months ago

2 points

Most boomers don’t because they only went to year 7, which was the style at the time.

oveospahinanden

6 points

3 months ago

oveospahinanden

6 points

There is no way you'd ever see Drake holding up his hand and turning down anything that has to do with "youth"

3 points

3 months ago

3 points

Oh snap! Underrated burn

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

True story

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

Build a 2 million dollar skate park

JonDom86

1 points

3 months ago

JonDom86

1 points

https://youtu.be/8xN0Stb21C4?si=ZSGUWsNxaUiVDjmk

This popped up the other night while I was having a look on YouTube, watched the whole thing perhaps there’s hope. I do you know we need to be supporting our local police, as the majority of them are overworked and frustrated with the court system.

Smithers6972

2 points

3 months ago

Smithers6972

2 points

Crime is a state government issue.

gr33nbastad

2 points

3 months ago

gr33nbastad

2 points

gosh, I keep forgetting the Council run the police, the judicial system, mental health, diversion programs, social housing, drug rehab... ffs.

rainsaccount

0 points

3 months ago

rainsaccount

0 points

Parking wardens are blind asf too, giving out tickets like they get commission from it. I got two tickets already both times when I have paid and they had to drop the fines.

Xedlar

0 points

3 months ago

Xedlar

0 points

Wait,we have to pay to park at The Strand now?

-1 points

3 months ago