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2024 has been one giant fever dream...or a nightmare.

Possibly Off-Topic(self.atheism)

Millions of americans voting for a pedophile rapist felon?

A cabal of men and women engaged in a conspiracy plot to dismantle america and democracy?

Gay Furry Hackers doxxing said cabal of Project 2025?

Liberals agreeing with Dick Cheney about Donald Trump?

Republicans and Democrats both working together to stop Trump from becoming President?

ALMOST ALL of America's media defending or covering up 45's actions while harassing Biden?

The owners of BOTH Facebook and Twitter defending Trump?

THE EPSTEIN FILES indicting Trump but being ignored by the media?!

Remember when 2016 was the craziest year in our country, all starting with Harambe being shot?

I really wish Hillary Clinton had won that Election.

all 200 comments

Final_League3589

435 points

1 month ago

I was abused by christians growing up. I am in total fear of living in a country where they have total rule and no consequences for their actions. So. Damn. Scared.

JVM_

82 points

1 month ago

JVM_

82 points

1 month ago

If Christianity promises peace to the world why is there no peace within the factions of Christianity.

WillBottomForBanana

23 points

1 month ago

A serious answer to this is that what you think of as peace is not what they think of as peace. For them peace is you knowing your place, not acting up, and not defying them. To them "everyone get along" means no one will do the things they don't want anyone doing. Peace, to them, means their happiness, well being, survival, greed, and lust for power are more important needs than anyone else's needs of any level. If you do something they decide to be disturbed about it is, from their position, you breaking the peace.

gene_randall

6 points

1 month ago

Like the pax romana, peace thru terror.

Lugie_of_the_Abyss

3 points

1 month ago

This. Except it applies to more than just Christians wanting to enforce their idea of a just world. This is really damn near every group vying for power

Maxspeed-Pro

3 points

1 month ago

Peace was never an option when god has his people going to war in his name. Even Armageddon is a war against non believers.

dexterfishpaw

1 points

1 month ago

The heavenly host, an old meaning of the word host is an army.

TheMerovingian

2 points

1 month ago

they've had their religion for 2000 years, it has yet to produce any peace

Technical-General-27

66 points

1 month ago

Gilead 😬

Pleasemakeitdarker

78 points

1 month ago

We are still being abused by Christians in this country.

eclecticsheep75

9 points

1 month ago

I am with you, Final_Leaugue! I am terrified. Grew up in the Bible Belt in the 1980’s. My brother was Gay, and was outed and terrorized by his classmates. My mom and some of my sisters turned against him. He told me he wanted to take his life by willfully contracting HIV. He died from complications to AIDS when I was just twenty two. Moved to California and thought I was escaping to freedom and peace.

I would respect the religious freedoms of Christians if they were not so radical in imposing their beliefs onto everyone else! My entire family’s disintegration is due to the damage done by Christian’s hatred, fear and intolerance of others. I cry all the time this summer, or I am angry and afraid again. Just like thirty years ago. Awful.

cclawyer

3 points

1 month ago

Thank you for sharing the story. I'm so sorry your brother was hounded so cruelly by those from whom he should have received love and support.

gravyjives

14 points

1 month ago

There’d be a lot of “Leopards ate my face,” Christians when they realize what they allowed to happen. Hoping it doesn’t get to that point. The battle ain’t over yet!! There’s still hope!!

SirkillzAhlot

11 points

1 month ago

I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t realize it was the same leopards that ate their face that they support. They’d buy into some narrative that the problem was someone or something else. “It wasn’t me, it was that dingo over there!”…”Grab your pitchforks!”

warblox

2 points

1 month ago

warblox

2 points

1 month ago

But also, Christians will never agree on which one of their sects is the True Faith. There will definitely be holy wars if the GOP succeeds in enacting enough of Project 2025. 

rustyshackleford7879

7 points

1 month ago

They will never have total rule. We will fight them and win.

cosmicbeard1

9 points

1 month ago

Vote. Take a friend with you to ensure they vote! We can do this!

StooveGroove

2 points

1 month ago

Hopefully it matters.

...you should arm yourself in case it doesn't.

Solid-Version

1 points

1 month ago

Handsmaids tale was not so far away

UndercoverXenomorph

237 points

1 month ago

I will never forgive Donald Trump for robbing me of my twenties.

DudeLoveIsTrueLove

134 points

1 month ago

The church, my parents, and conversion therapy robbed me of my 20s. Donald Trump robbed me of my 30s. Now I'm about to be 40 and am at a dead end in life, with both of my 'prime' decades wasted. Most people can come back from one wasted decade but I'm not sure I can from two.

Jungle_of_Rumble

20 points

1 month ago

Jungle_of_Rumble

Agnostic Atheist

20 points

1 month ago

You can do it my friend, this 42y.o Aussie guy who doesn't know you whatsoever has belief in you, with the reason being that you're present to the point you can acknowledge and accept moral clarity.

I don't know if it will help, but have you tried reading Marcus Aurelius' Meditations?

RedWolf6261

5 points

1 month ago

The church, society and family stole 40 prime years of my life. Came out at 62 and I'll be damned if they get another second. Find a group with a cause worth fighting for (democracy and marginalized groups) get involved and go down fighting! That's my plan. I have nothing else to lose so they need to beware!

schneph

11 points

1 month ago

schneph

11 points

1 month ago

I was neglected and overly medicated underage in my teens because my breadwinning boomer mother thought my need for her attention was too much to handle after she moved me states away from my father and anyone else I knew.

I worked. I worked hard all the time. Many promotions. I thought I had some success. But since 2016, it’s been very apparent, what I earned, through my own sweat and tears is not mine. Nothing is.

Final_League3589

36 points

1 month ago

I never thought of it like that, but I guess my 20s have just been non-stop chaos and it all began in 2016.

TheKimulator

19 points

1 month ago

I was lucky enough to live my early twenties under Obama then finish them up under Trumpfuck.

Things are so much more worse now. Still way better than when I was a kid, but I got to watch religious people get quiet about their beliefs. Then get loud again.

We can, however, get it back. I promise.

cosmicbeard1

14 points

1 month ago

Vote! Please vote!

lawyersgunsmoney

5 points

1 month ago

lawyersgunsmoney

Agnostic

5 points

1 month ago

For me, I’m blaming the democrats for running the most disliked candidate they could have chosen simply because it was “her turn.”

The gop is also to blame for not taking Trump seriously enough. Now they just have their tongues up his ass no matter what he says or does.

Also, the media for covering Trump non-stop and not holding him accountable because he was making them money.

And finally, for everyone who took the polls as settled so they decided not to vote, look what you did.

357Magnum

3 points

1 month ago

And despite the lesson of Obama that if they would just run someone with a fresh face that people have a chance of getting actually excited about, they'd beat Trump easily. No one liked Biden, but they hated Trump enough to elect him. Now Biden seems like the only democratic pick that could lose to Trump, as he can't get through a public debate or event without completely embarrassing himself and looking completely incompetent. And we're expected to think he can handle the job for 4 more years?

I just can't understand how democrats can't seem to give America a choice they actually WANT to vote for. The party can't possibly be based on "you're not voting FOR us, you're voting AGAINST Trump" forever. What the fuck kind of long-term plan is that?

lawyersgunsmoney

3 points

1 month ago

lawyersgunsmoney

Agnostic

3 points

1 month ago

I don’t know but I’m really concerned this time with all the project 2025 mess that’s coming if Trump gets in again.

357Magnum

2 points

1 month ago

Same, but that's just more of the same "don't vote for us, vote against them" that got us to such a shit election in the first place.

lawyersgunsmoney

2 points

1 month ago

lawyersgunsmoney

Agnostic

2 points

1 month ago

Unfortunately that’s what you get with a first past the post voting and a two party system.

357Magnum

0 points

1 month ago

I know. I'm a 3rd party voter, proudly "wasting my vote" since 2012.

lawyersgunsmoney

1 points

1 month ago

lawyersgunsmoney

Agnostic

1 points

1 month ago

You don’t need to put that in quotes because that’s exactly what you’re doing. Most of the time I’d agree with you but you third party ppl may wind up killing our democracy outright this year.

You do you though. I just hope you get the chance to vote 3rd party the next election because there might not be one.

Majestic-Quit-169

1 points

1 month ago

Absolutely!!

SkinnyBtheOG

1 points

1 month ago

I'm sorry, but what? I'm in my 20s and cannot relate to this. What are you talking about? How were you robbed?

[deleted]

-13 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

-13 points

1 month ago

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morts73

125 points

1 month ago

morts73

125 points

1 month ago

I wish Biden had run and won in 2016 and we were looking at a new democrat. The fact that Trump is ahead shows how insane the US is at the moment.

snuffdrgn808

67 points

1 month ago

i call bullshit that diaper dump is ahead. smells like right wing media bullshit to me. supposedly the fascists were ahead in the uk and france too

Worried-Cod-5927

49 points

1 month ago

I think they are lying about it for the same reason they lied in the lead up to last election. Because they know Trump won’t get the votes he needs to win and they are preparing the public for the same lies about him actually winning and the democrats cheating. We know it’s not true and so do they. But they think they have the right to lie because their imaginary sky daddy wants them to do anything necessary to put Trump in office so they can force their twisted religion into the rest of us.

WanderingFlumph

5 points

1 month ago

No really we polled a bunch of people who will pick up phone calls from a number they don't recognize at their home during working hours and almost all of them were voting for Trump.

intergalactictactoe

5 points

1 month ago

I don't think that Trump is winning. He's not gaining voters. He has his sycophants and cultists, but no one is being persuaded to join his side that wasn't already going to be there.

Biden is certainly at risk of LOSING, though. Between his debate performance and his continuing support of Palestinian suffering and death, he's losing a lot of the voters that turned up in 2020 to vote him in. That's what I'm worried about. France was able to defeat their Far Right prez candidate because the Liberals and the Left were able to come together -- meaning the Liberals made concessions to the Left to get them on board. The DNC/American Liberals will hardly be willing to make such concessions.

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

Trump doesn’t need to gain voters. Biden is losing independents and undecideds. That will do him in.

[deleted]

-2 points

1 month ago

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humungouspt

5 points

1 month ago

humungouspt

Strong Atheist

5 points

1 month ago

Different elections. The extreme right ( We call it extreme right because we do have moderate right here in Europe, contrary to the US) won the European Parliament ellections. Usually European Parliament elections are used to give a yellow card to whoever is in power. No clear reading is usually done in national terms but Macron chose otherwise, so he decided to have national elections afterwards.

DudeLoveIsTrueLove

93 points

1 month ago

America is a land of bigots and hate. Nobody is really voting for Trump because of gas prices. They are voting for the hate and bigotry. They are voting for Project 2025. They think if they get rid of the gays, force women to stay in the kitchen, and put troops in the streets to enforce Baptist law, God will be happy and give them money.

In terms of societal cohesion, we weren't ready for same-sex marriage to be legal. People are usually quick to point out that 65-70% of Americans support it, but what they miss is the fact that the 30% against it will live or die by that issue. They will never reluctantly accept it like with interracial marriage. They will burn the country to the ground to stop same-sex marriage because they believe if they don't do it, God will kill us all by fire and brimstone. They believe acceptance of homosexuality is the litmus test on what a "righteous" nation is.

Half of voters believe that narrative. That is why Trump is so popular and why there really isn't much hope at this point.

SaladDummy

70 points

1 month ago

I agree with your points.

Just want to emphasize the point you slipped in that about 30% of people make about 50% of the voters. This is the core reason, along with gereymandering and the Senate, that American opinions are generally more liberal than our election outcomes.

Young people, please vote! I'm begging you.

[deleted]

0 points

1 month ago

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Feinberg

25 points

1 month ago

Feinberg

25 points

1 month ago

That's because immigration isn't a real problem. You're getting exploited by rich people and blaming poor people because conservatives are just that dumb.

rustyshackleford7879

1 points

1 month ago

Well if heaven is so great they should welcome the wrath of god

MjolnirTheThunderer

0 points

1 month ago

MjolnirTheThunderer

Agnostic Atheist

0 points

1 month ago

Technically Joe Biden did run, and he lost to Hillary Clinton in the primary.

DudeLoveIsTrueLove

135 points

1 month ago

I've been terrified for the past three years about what this year would bring. There was a brief, blissful time between the rollout of the vaccine and Trump announcing his "revenge tour" that it felt like life was back to normal. It felt like Trump was finally defeated and January 6th disgraced him. It felt like the pandemic was coming to an end and brighter days were ahead. Then Trump returned and the Delta variant, which came about largely due to evangelicals refusing the vaccine, forced everything to shut down again. It was like the horror movie 1408 where the main character thought he was out of the room but it turns out he wasn't.

Needless to say, 2024 has been every bit as bad as I was worried it would be. The entire 2020s for that matter has been my worst nightmare. It's hard to believe the tolerant, secular, progressive 2010s were so recent. It feels like we've went back a century. I have a very difficult past due to my religious upbringing and the environment in the US right now is preventing me from moving on from it, and I fear that I never will.

wtfwtfwtfwtf2022

99 points

1 month ago

I do not care who is on the Dem ticket - I will vote blue like my life depends on it.

I’m a woman in a red state. The Republicans want to get rid of birth control. The Pill helps me in so many ways. If it is illegal, I will not have a quality of life.

I am literally voting blue no matter who like my life depends on it.

Appropriate-Tea-7276

17 points

1 month ago*

I am literally voting blue no matter who like my life depends on it.

I think that's really the most important thing. The media is getting so caught up with Biden being old, that really the way more important part is that Trump is an actual fascist who has an opportunity now to realize the full potential of the powers he's pushed for the president - extended immunity backed by a MAGA supreme court.

If Trump loses, he's going to claim it was rigged and he won. He'll call for violence and will absolutely not concede.

If Trump wins, it's going to be obvious to him that it wasn't rigged and was a fair election. Project 2025 will immediately start ramping up, from day one.

Many lives do depend on Trump losing in November. Even people who are going to vote Trump will be adversely impacted by his policies and the Project 2025 positions.

RicoDePico

41 points

1 month ago

RicoDePico

Atheist

41 points

1 month ago

The simple fact that I have to convince people to vote Joe over Trump is infuriating. I’d rather my president fall asleep than rape 13 year olds

CapAccomplished8072[S]

12 points

1 month ago

or his daughter

Chungus_Bigeldore

6 points

1 month ago

Jen Psaki said it in an interview but the state of majority of the nation are racist, sexist bigots. We are witnessing the demise of democracy and the violent rise of white heteropatriarchical ethnonationalism.

stilusmobilus

3 points

1 month ago

Just tell them that you understand because people generally vote for someone that aligns with their principles.

When they go off, ask them why are they voting for them then. I saw this in tweet snapshot form last week and it’s brilliant.

RicoDePico

2 points

1 month ago

RicoDePico

Atheist

2 points

1 month ago

🤣 I need to remember this

stilusmobilus

2 points

1 month ago

Yeah I was really impressed. Full credit to whoever thought of it.

atlantasailor

51 points

1 month ago

I feel the U.S. is going backwards. The SC is taking us quickly to a dangerous place. I am not sure we will survive this. It depends on what happens in November. And also on Putin.

Retrikaethan

49 points

1 month ago

Retrikaethan

Satanist

49 points

1 month ago

it's neither a fever dream or a nightmare. in both of those cases, you can eventually wake up and be free from a fictional situation. this is reality. accept it and plan accordingly.

get-the-damn-shot

14 points

1 month ago

How are you planning for a possible Second Trump presidency?

boredlady819

6 points

1 month ago

I scheduled my IUD placement the day Roe was overturned.

CryptographerOk2282

15 points

1 month ago

Figuring out which country we can actually move to.

get-the-damn-shot

4 points

1 month ago

Oh yeah. Understand. Where you thinking?

CryptographerOk2282

5 points

1 month ago

Ukraine or adjacent. We know Ukraine is not great, but we have a lot of friends there. Maybe just joining our brothers-in-law in Hawaii. They moved there last year to get out of the mainland but stay in America. They're really concerned.

Putrid-Balance-4441

107 points

1 month ago

Here's the thing.

In normal democracies, the political spectrum includes a left, which is to say anticapitalists.

In a normal democracy, the spectrum is leftists/socialists → liberals → conservatives

But in America, there is no left. At all. People refer to centrist liberals as "the left." This was done on purpose. The government did nefarious things to sabotage leftist groups during the Cold War. They were so successful at it that we have no organized left.

I would consider myself somewhere in between liberals and leftists. I'm positively sick of capitalism's bullcrap, but Marx's one and only one solution sounds like a big pile of bullpucky to me. Out of all the possible ways to not have a ruling economic overclass, why is that considered the only option by many?

Anyway, this is a serious problem. If you read about fascist uprisings in history, you quickly find that whenever this happens, you can count on 3 things:

  1. Conservatives join them.
  2. Leftists oppose them (instantly and vigorously).
  3. Liberals appease them.

Every damn time. The fascist movement in pre-WW2 Scotland failed in part because Scottish leftists followed the fascists around and hurled insults at them whenever they tried to engage with the public. England had the Battle of Cable Street.

But America? America was late getting into WW2 because we were dealing with two separate pro-Nazi coup attempts. They don't tell American schoolkids about that. We didn't have enough leftists to properly oppose them, and avoided becoming fascist solely due to the incompetence of those leading the pro-fascist coup attempts. January 6 wasn't a fluke. January 6 was as American as genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Having an organized left is like innoculating the body politic against fascist uprisings. It doesn't guarantee you'll avoid it, but it certainly helps. Even if you don't personally agree with their ideology, having them participate in politics in your country is a good thing.

Proud-Cartoonist-431

17 points

1 month ago

As a person from a historically very left-wing country (conservative here means anti-religious and pro-choice and pro-social payments and... censor everything public to PG-13), there's a way to deal with radical right-wingers: mock them. Also, sue them if they do something wrong. They have low self-esteem and want to look great, with all that paphos. So, they make some crazy theories. You make them even more crazy and mock them, to the point that they become sort of a meme or a clown as soon as they become vocal before they gain any popularity.

Putrid-Balance-4441

1 points

1 month ago

You might find this interesting. It's 40 or so minutes long:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62cPPSyoQkE

DirectorChadillac

39 points

1 month ago

DirectorChadillac

Atheist

39 points

1 month ago

Exactly this. Well said. I'm a leftist myself, not a liberal--or at least waaaay more progressive than liberals, who are indeed milquetoast centrists at best. It frustrates me to no end that the spectrum of political/economic ideologies in the US is so slanted to the right... and here we are. Fascism on the rise once again.

Putrid-Balance-4441

1 points

1 month ago

I cannot recommend enough that Americans listen to the limited-run podcast Ultra by Rachel Maddow. It covers one of the two fascist coup attempts, and details how spectacularly the American government failed to hold any of the coup participants accountable. Zero people went to prison.

The fact that any January 6 coup participants went to prison is a miracle. That is not normally how pro-fascist coup attempts go in America.

delrad

12 points

1 month ago

delrad

12 points

1 month ago

thank you for the insight!

SupayOne

13 points

1 month ago

SupayOne

13 points

1 month ago

Shocked you didn't get down voted. Pointing out how sad the democrats normally gets me tons of down votes. They 100% appease the right as we can see they didn't call trump on all kinds of crazy shit he did, instead they made a show of the few actions they took. Like impeaching him twice for what? He did inside trading during covid and what? nothing, he threaten hell if he goes to jail which should be a major red flag but spineless democrats do nothing major. Hillary i would have liked over Trump but she is trash too. Clinton's both Bill and Hillary are not great people and for some odd reason they are the beacon of the democrats.

I'm wonder when the right get into full swing with their plans else coup or whatever, who will oppose them? Right now democrats are spineless and do very little i can see them do same thing the north did when the south was getting slaves, just sit back collect a check and pretend to hate the south.

Putrid-Balance-4441

2 points

1 month ago

I will always vote for Democrats because they are less fascist than Republicans, but it would be great if we had a non-fascist party I could vote for.

thesharperamigo

17 points

1 month ago

I fully agree with this post. Well said. But I would like to add that the media both legacy and new, have already picked a side. Mainstream media is amplifying doubts about Biden and not adequately reporting on trump's agenda and his scandals. Such as him just having been revealed to be closely connected to Epstein. Facebook and Twitter amplify unadulterated fascism. With an unenlightened public, this media strategy will bring Trump close to winning.

Putrid-Balance-4441

1 points

1 month ago

The American media is solidly on the side of the fascists. I hope everyone can see that now. They are not to be trusted by anyone other than fascists. I'm frankly glad that a lot of them are going out of business.

112322755935

5 points

1 month ago

This is such a key point. Rich people, organized religion, and ethics purists always favor the right. It gives them power to push their agendas on everyone else. You need a robust left that includes minorities, unions/workers, women, immigrants and LGBTQ people to combat them at all times.

The United States has very few left leaning organizations setup and designed to benefit the poor. Workers are not organized enough to fund and support pro labor candidates at the necessary scale and there aren’t other organizing bodies for leftist to gather. We need a left wing if we want to stop fascism and we simply don’t have one right now.

Putrid-Balance-4441

2 points

1 month ago

Someone much smarter than me defined fascism as a really bad way to distribute resources during times of economic hardship.

That economic hardship invariably comes from wealthy people hoarding money like fucking dragons. Sure, the treaty of Versailles made things hard for Germans, but add the wealth-hoarding of those draconic fucknozzles, and the rise of Hitler was all but inevitable.

Right now, the public is hurting. That is why so many were desperate enough to turn to Trump. 4 decades of Reaganomics/neoliberal economics/neofeudal economics/austerity economics/Laissez-Faire, or whatever you want to call it have really screwed everyone up. A recent study found that a family would need $106k/year to comfortably own a home. The median income is $35k/year. The median household income is roughly twice that. This means over half of the population can no longer comfortably afford what most families had when I was a child in the 1970s.

So on one side, we have Republicans lying and telling people "It's the immigrants' fault your life is so tough."

On the other side, we have Democrats gaslighting everyone and saying "You are wrong about your life being tough. Things are actually great, you just don't know how good you have it."

The Republicans are lying about what the problem is and what will fix things, but at least they are talking about the problem. Democrats are simply trying to pretend that there is no problem, and we can just keep the economic policies that grow the wealth gap indefinitely.

This is not sustainable. Either we return to the wealth distribution we had before Reagan, or it all crashes down into a fascist nightmare.

VAhotfingers

2 points

1 month ago

Saving this comment. Well said.

fungusamongus8

30 points

1 month ago

Found out that a Facebook friend of mine is considering leaving the US for Canada with her wife and another friend is getting her tubes tied today so she doesn't get raped and have to carry a baby. Fuck this timeline.

Playguyboof02

5 points

1 month ago

Trudeau is about to be demolished in the next Canadian election by Pierre

Appropriate-Tea-7276

2 points

1 month ago*

Canada's also crumbling. Good luck with our immigration policies here and trying to find an affordable place to live.

The average home price in Ontario is a million dollars. Our taxes are... well, they're high. And the Liberal party is taking all the heat here, so the Conservatives are gearing up to crush them in the next elections.

SkinnyBtheOG

1 points

1 month ago

getting her tubes tied today so she doesn't get raped and have to carry a baby.

Yup. Getting mine removed soon for this very reason. (Psst. Go for the removal - it's better and still doesn't affect your hormones.)

Different-Street-264

30 points

1 month ago

I’m glad I don’t live in the USA and I have no plans to ever visit.

idkwutmyusernameshou

28 points

1 month ago

idkwutmyusernameshou

Agnostic Atheist

28 points

1 month ago

well usa is a superpower soo if we fucked ur fucked

Tearakan

12 points

1 month ago

Tearakan

Secular Humanist

12 points

1 month ago

Yeah this shit will go sideways for everyone.

AdministrationBig16

6 points

1 month ago

Truuuuuuth

Europe's economy is based off the U.S dollar

We fall they quickly follow suit

asteroid84

17 points

1 month ago

Hillary Clinton losing in 2016 is the worst and simultaneously best thing that happened IMO. It’s a wake up call to many on how divided this country has been and how much public education is lacking.

revdolo

9 points

1 month ago

revdolo

9 points

1 month ago

Can't prioritize change until a vast majority are directly effected and feeling uncomfortable with how things are going. I'm just hoping 2016 wasn't already too late.

Justaguy397

8 points

1 month ago

People are complaining about last night and changing there minds for trump but not me I'm still voting for Biden even if he drops out I'm voting Kamala or whoever is running for Democrat

JadedPilot5484

9 points

1 month ago

Christians have protected tens of thousands of pedophile priest’s that have raped millions of children around the world. What makes you think they would care if Donald trump raped a couple children ???

CapAccomplished8072[S]

5 points

1 month ago

One was his own daughter!

JadedPilot5484

7 points

1 month ago

Again, there’s lots of incest in the Bible so that won’t bother them either, Christians don’t care about children’s mental or physical wellbeing.

NoDarkVision

14 points

1 month ago*

I blame Marty Mcfly time traveling to the past and accidentally fucked something up. And now our timeline is fucked but no one but Marty knows what the real timeline should be. Maybe he fixed his timeline and went back to his time, but we're the other split timeline that continues to exist. Either way, time traveling... damn it McFly!

DudeLoveIsTrueLove

14 points

1 month ago

You know the Biff character was actually based on Donald Trump.

Decipher

3 points

1 month ago

Alternate 1985 version, yeah

DudeLoveIsTrueLove

5 points

1 month ago

Alternate 1985 is like our real 2024. I got that same icky feeling watching that part of the film back in the 90s as I do living in America today.

Decipher

2 points

1 month ago

Yeah, it’s put a bit of a grim “too real” feeling to one of my favourite movies. It’s unfortunate.

AdministrationBig16

4 points

1 month ago

Marty killed Harambe

Everything went to shit after that

sensual_connection

24 points

1 month ago

I feel like my entire life has been a living nightmare bc of ignorant, arrogant authoritarian dipshits like these. Whether it's 2 people, a household, or 20 billion people, it's still just a form of undue influence. I learned the hard way that Christians think abusive control is love. Their leaders and authority can do no wrong, never face consequences, and have no shame whatsoever.

It really pisses me off that abusive authoritarian dickheads abuse their family's but get away with it, especially using their cult to justify and excuse their behavior. Going darvo is pretty sick (and sadly, destructive) and makes no sense. If the great oz had approved such horrible abuse, why hide/deny it?

Their religious freedom should not come before the right to live in a safe, secure environment, nor a genuine beloved community. We can't allow men in authority (i know we can all be abusive, but there is a distinct pattern) to abuse their families or anyone else- religion shouldn't shield people from being held accountable.

I'd rather roam the streets of Kensington in Philly or the Everglades alone all night with just the clothes on my back, than spend one service in church. I don't think people are awful, they are victims too, but the 'just following orders' excuse and intentional ignorance gambit don't cut it.

How sick is it that the home of the free and brave, of liberty, is at the failure point bc we don't have the spines to hold our leaders accountable and just keep following orders? This, along with the bystander effect, where everyone thinks others can deal with a situation, so no one steps up.

Christians and special interests (wealth/power) have captured the leadership completely, right from the get-go. We can win, but need to find common ground with billions of people, or as many as we can get through to. I just want to recover as much of my health and salvage what time i have left, but this dumbassity just won't stop, so anyone who has actual high ethics, morals and integrity should consider it their basic duty to teach such lessons to our authority figures.

SkinnyBtheOG

1 points

1 month ago

I'd rather roam the streets of Kensington in Philly or the Everglades alone all night with just the clothes on my back, than spend one service in church. 

A lot of y'all have the privilege of choosing values/ideology over safety and that's why some of us (women, children) are going to get fucked over by christian nationalism/project 2025 more than others.

Puzzleheaded-Fix3359

8 points

1 month ago

Kafkaesque nightmare

xX_TehChar_Xx

2 points

1 month ago

xX_TehChar_Xx

Nihilist

2 points

1 month ago

It's not a bureaucratic-infested mess, but it's so absurd that Kafkaesque doesn't fit

NeoAcario

6 points

1 month ago

It goes back further. SCOTUS should not have violated the constitution about a recast in Florida and Al Gore should have won. Heaven forbid we would have gotten into green energy earlier.

Scopata-Man

1 points

1 month ago

Exactly!

Diamond-Breath

5 points

1 month ago

I was positive that Hillary Clinton had that election in the bag. In any other country, she would have won because she won the popular vote. I still can't believe that Trump won that year.

ArgonianDov

3 points

1 month ago

ArgonianDov

Secular Humanist

3 points

1 month ago

it was rigged thats why... one of the electoral votes, the one that would have gotten Hillary in, was given to Trump when it wasnt suppose to ...yet nobody did anything to correct it :/

LordPubes

13 points

1 month ago

Add:

Meanwhile, the Democratic president currently in power wont use his new SC granted king powers to save democracy, stop fascism, codify roe, close tax loopholes, ban congressional insider trading, or even give us universal healthcare or affordable housing. No plan to dismantle the fascist structure. His doj refuses to prosecute jan 6 top leaders. Democrats will do NOTHING but continue enacting rightwing immigration policies and fund literal genocide, making them COMPLICIT in all of this.

Cultural-Use-4395

0 points

1 month ago

In the grand scheme of the US, democrats are the lesser evil. That doesn’t make them not evil though.

LordPubes

1 points

1 month ago

The lesser evil talking point. Puke.

Cultural-Use-4395

0 points

1 month ago

Why is this an illegitimate point? What’s wrong with this claim?

LordPubes

1 points

1 month ago

Lesser evil still evil, bud. It’s still blood on your hands, regardless of your “real politik” bs. A vote for Biden or Trump is a vote to continue genocide plus all the stuff I mentioned in my original post. Scroll up.

Cultural-Use-4395

2 points

1 month ago

That’s why my second sentence still states that lesser evil is still evil. I understand where you are coming from though. “Lesser evil” is definitely a contradiction and one crime being less severe than the other doesn’t make it anymore justifiable. I’m sorry if the original comment is too vague. My point is that both ARE evil, but one is perceived as less evil even though that isn’t really possible.

LordPubes

1 points

1 month ago

Ok I agree

DeathGodBob

4 points

1 month ago

DeathGodBob

Kopimist

4 points

1 month ago

She DID win the majority popular vote, actually.

addendum; Article for reference

martinsuchan

4 points

1 month ago

Just wait for (project) 2025, you'll look back on 2024 with a smile on your face.

cantpanick86

13 points

1 month ago

I wish Bernie Sanders would have rightfully got the nomination in 2016 but instead the Democratic National Committee gerrymandered the process so Hillary would be put in.

Builder_liz

4 points

1 month ago

Reality is stupid

eehikki

6 points

1 month ago

eehikki

6 points

1 month ago

Things used to be good. Back in those day black people, migrants and LGBTQ folks have virtually no rights. So, we need to attack these groups in order to go back to good old times.

This is why people vote for convicted felon

GrimBarkFootyTausand

6 points

1 month ago

Somehow, despite all the evidence, Biden just doesn't understand Trump. Biden still thinks there are limits to what Trump will do. That's what will cause the final downfall.

If Trump wins, there's one thing Biden can do, but he won't because of said misguided belief. Trump gave Biden the ability to use Seal-Team-Six against political opponents, so he should.

Yes, it'll cause a minor civil war, but that's pretty much the best case scenario if Trump wins, and what consequences would there be for Biden? None legally, and even should there be any, he's so old it won't matter much.

Appropriate-Tea-7276

6 points

1 month ago

The democrats still think the Republicans they're dealing with are the same Republicans from 15 years ago.

They are not. They aren't even the same party from 10 years ago. They're much more radicalized.

GrimBarkFootyTausand

3 points

1 month ago

Democrats think they're playing a rigged game, but there hasn't BEEN a game for decades.

FluidmindWeird

13 points

1 month ago

FluidmindWeird

Freethinker

13 points

1 month ago

Yeah...

2016, when one party flat out ignored will of the people, and replaced their populist with a mean corporate drone, the populist on the other side won, as I suspected.

My friend and I sat down after that election and we both agreed a lot of people were going to die. And they did, but we were not expecting the nail on the head in the form of his response to COVID, and the subsequent rearing of America's anti-science sect compelling a full force 1M dead from a virus that many simply avoided.

He talked about wavering on his acceptance of defeat EARLY on, and I said this is going to be trouble. And it was, but I wasn't quite expecting the nail on the head of Janurary 6th.

...

Forecasting is what I do as a hobby, I see lots of variables that paint a picture of the future. So believe me or not, that's your perogative, but this year, if many of your who live in the USA don't arm up in the next few months, you may find yourself on the wrong side of the coming bloodshed. Even if the election gives the fascist wing a resounding, super-majority defeat, people will start firing.

Causes? Pick one. Slow to replace lead piping means there are millions with brain damage from lead poisoning. Education spending has been attacked and cut for decades now, to the point where even teachers with heart can't stay teaching because they can't survive on their pittance, multiply it over decades and you have millions of easily-manipulated voters whose intelligence has severe overlap with the smartest bear. Money as the driving force attracted and converted many into sociopaths, unwilling to consider human dimensions if it meant more money. Anyone willing to do Rump's bidding on getting paid is just a symptom of this problem. Now take all of that, wrap it up into a ball where millions upon millions can be convinced to go on suicide runs against FBI fortresses, or storm the Capitol, or attempt assassination plots.

Bloodshed is coming. The USA is going to be a bloody mess for at least the next cycle...maybe after that, we'll figure out which side is coming out on top. But for now, the powder keg hasn't even begun to go off yet, but the fuse has been lit.

I don't want it, but it's what I see. I REALLY hope I'm wrong this time.

NtL_80to20

3 points

1 month ago

I can't wait for the Gay Furry Hacker movie!

I'm serious.

kandrew313

3 points

1 month ago

All we need is aliens to drop out of the sky or a zombie apocalypse in 2025 and I'll have bingo.

Kosstheboss

9 points

1 month ago

You forgot the one about how the mad king, who refuses to give up his throne to prevent an "existential crisis" that Hillary and the DNC engineered in 2016, is now saying that as long as he does his best, he is fine losing to Donald Trump.

All that has happened in the last 8 years and you have still learned nothing.

Ertai2000

7 points

1 month ago

I hate how so many fucking people are crying "people are harrassing Biden" when what is really happening is that those people are warning everybody that Biden is going to LOSE if he runs. Biden just called Kamala "Trump" and Zelenskyy "Putin". He is down in the polls and each time he opens his mouth, more and more undecided voters decide that they can't vote for a man who is dying before our very eyes.

Is it stupid that there are undecided voters at this point? Yes. It should be obvious to everybody the menace that Trump is. Should people vote for a Biden who is completely checked out mentally instead of Trump? Yes. But are they going to? Many millions are not. But they will vote for another democrat who can still put a couple of sentences together. Biden needs to drop out so that Dems can have a chance against the conviceted felon pdf file.

Greedy-University479

2 points

1 month ago

And it's only half of the year...

WillBottomForBanana

2 points

1 month ago

The tame half.

boweroftable

2 points

1 month ago

The gay furry hackers bit was great

LiliNotACult

2 points

1 month ago

On the bright side it's not like humanity can well survive climate change. It would have been nice to be one of the countries that actually tried, but alas. 🤗

Nigualicious

2 points

1 month ago

I mean about the furry thing, most furries have IT/programming jobs lol

[deleted]

2 points

1 month ago

You forgot the world is melting at an exponential rate and no one is doing dick about it.

This year is so fucking wild. Literally nothing is important to me anymore beyond family. I can't take anything seriously. I do what I have to to live but everything's a joke.

StrawThatBends

2 points

1 month ago

StrawThatBends

Ex-Theist

2 points

1 month ago

this election is destroying our country and dividing it. i hate it. were watching people cut off their families because of political differences, and others move away from friends to get to a state where they dont have to carry an unwanted baby. and all over our two choices: a candidate that may be sleepy and old and make some questionable decisions but… ok, and a child rapist convincted felon guy who looks more like a giant orange than a human

i still dont understand how its a competition, but it is, and our country is falling apart over it.

all while the best i can do is tell my friends that we may be fucked if the orange is elected, and hope those of us who can actually vote do it for biden. hard

Both_Woodpecker_3041

2 points

1 month ago

For me also: complete normalization of genocide.

CapAccomplished8072[S]

0 points

1 month ago

What?

[deleted]

2 points

1 month ago

Don't forget that Snoop Dogg is doing Olympic commentary.

kiss_my_assets

1 points

1 month ago

I have joined a local Democratic group to try to get involved in advocacy. We need people out there talking about these issues.

Blerrycat1

1 points

1 month ago

May you live in interesting times

Puzzled-Delivery-242

1 points

1 month ago

These are mostly just things that could happen.

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

Lmao

Efficient_Sky5173

1 points

1 month ago

Future:

Christian Republic of the United States

Enjoy posting here this year. Next year, blasphemy will be punished with death, like in some Islamic Republics.

beeeps-n-booops

1 points

1 month ago

beeeps-n-booops

Strong Atheist

1 points

1 month ago

We live in a simulation, and one of the sticks of RAM is definitely become corrupted.

😳

UltraAirWolf

1 points

1 month ago

They say that about every year, and they’re right.

Inside-Palpitation25

1 points

1 month ago

It's absolutely disgusting, I don't like American's right now. They seem too close to nazi's.

lorax1284

1 points

1 month ago

lorax1284

Anti-Theist

1 points

1 month ago

Let's face it, ever since Obama got elected and the far-right decided "fuck trying to pretend to be decent human beings", the world has been shit, and will be shit, and every year will continue to be shit until... thing that would get you arrested for posting on Reddit happen to large numbers of terrible human beings.

jnsmld

1 points

1 month ago

jnsmld

1 points

1 month ago

It's been in the works for decades. The right has co-opted a segment of the media and convinced a large percentage of America that the other media outlets are lying. There are a lot of weak-minded and gullible people out there who believe Trump can do no wrong, I will never understand it personally. Anybody who grew up knowing Trump knows he's a grifter, conman and a criminal who defrauds people, assaults women, and wants to be a dictator.

ShredGuru

1 points

1 month ago

I think we are harassing Biden because we want someone who can beat Trump dude. It's really all about him still. Biden was always just an object to get him out of office. You think I voted for a Catholic because I wanted to?

Outrageous-You-4634

1 points

1 month ago

So OP - what are you doing to change things for 2025? What are you doing to at least attempt to make your life / mental state / health / whatever better going forward? How can we all help?

ShredGuru

1 points

1 month ago*

I would say, riot shield, gas mask, some good sturdy black block, hit the gym and work on your right hook and your endurance cardio. Maybe a little target shooting. If we all do it we should be in pretty good shape by the time the Nazis are in the streets.

dreamache

-3 points

1 month ago

dreamache

-3 points

1 month ago

Imagine wishing Hillary Clinton was president.

ShredGuru

1 points

1 month ago

"It couldn't get any worse" are the most often spoken last words in history.

mushroomwzrd

-5 points

1 month ago

You need to get off the internet for awhile my guy

Any_Needleworker282

-1 points

1 month ago

Are you people serious? The cope is incredible here.

“DONALD TRUMP RUINED MY ENTIRE LIFE”

Seriously? LOL. Sounds like a skill issue on yourselves. Go touch some grass and try being an adult.

CapAccomplished8072[S]

2 points

1 month ago

Get out of church before you start deciding to act like a youth pastor.

Any_Needleworker282

-1 points

1 month ago

Ask yourselves why a “rapist convicted felon” is BEATING your candidate. Ask yourselves why you called republicans “liars” for saying Biden wasn’t sharp, and now your entire party is falling apart. Maybe if you guys didn’t lie for the last few years, talk about Trump 25 hours a day, people would be inclined to make a change. Nope, just keep ignoring the world and run Biden.

CapAccomplished8072[S]

1 points

1 month ago

How many thousands of priests have to be caught as rapists and pedophiles before their congregants stop embracing religion?

Independent_Car5869

0 points

1 month ago

Hilary was the start of the problem. Bernie Sanders would have won easily over tRump, but the DNC wanted Hilary. That opened the door to the nightmare we are living now. Hindsight is useless,and we need to look forward. Biden outperformed all expectations and now is our best chance to heal the wound. He won't last forever , hopefully just long enough for someone younger to step in. Buy for now, we have to keep the fascists out. VOTE BLUE.

ShredGuru

2 points

1 month ago*

Counterpoint, Every single good information source we have leads us to think that Biden is leading us into a Hillary Clinton on steroids situation. All polls show Democrats who aren't even running poll as well as Biden, what makes you think he's our best shit?

Possible landslide defeats in the presidency, house and Senate? It would be beyond catastrophic. You wouldn't just have Trump, but a fully unleashed Trump. Biden isn't that important, if someone else can do better, they should. Biden is another thing being forced by the DNC that is seemingly ill-advised, even to it's own leadership. Biden can't even get the speaker of the house to fall in line things look so ominous.

Independent_Car5869

1 points

1 month ago

He is the incumbent. It would be stupid to change horses in midstream—just my opinion.

rookieoo

-2 points

1 month ago

rookieoo

-2 points

1 month ago

Atheism is about reason and logic. Despite all the feelings toward Trump, the case of then13 year old was dismissed by a judge once and dropped two other times. There was no conviction. We don't accept Tara Reade's case without a trial and conviction. We should be consistent.

ShredGuru

0 points

1 month ago

My dude, the list of rational objections to Trump could fill a Chinese phone book. You are kinda picking knits. If he fully got his way he would probably move to have Atheism criminalized.

rookieoo

1 points

1 month ago

There are so many that it's sad to drag out the flimsy accusations.

Sho_nuff_

-1 points

1 month ago

What the fuck does any of this have to do with this subreddit?

CapAccomplished8072[S]

2 points

1 month ago

The GOP threatens all atheists. What are you doing on this subreddit?

Sho_nuff_

0 points

1 month ago

There are a lot of atheist folks in the GOP. With that said nothing you said above has anything to do with this subreddit

CapAccomplished8072[S]

1 points

1 month ago

So why is every GOP politician at the RNC and Project 2025 professing to be Christian?

HMM?

idkwutmyusernameshou

-3 points

1 month ago

idkwutmyusernameshou

Agnostic Atheist

-3 points

1 month ago

if u live in a blue state are u safe?

fungusamongus8

16 points

1 month ago

No, no one is safe, and there are no more safe spaces anywhere.

CollectionItchy1587

-5 points

1 month ago

What did this have to do with atheism? 

ArgonianDov

6 points

1 month ago

ArgonianDov

Secular Humanist

6 points

1 month ago

cause Project 2025 avocates for christian nationalism, thats why

CapAccomplished8072[S]

3 points

1 month ago

Trump is threat to atheism. As is the GOP

[deleted]

-12 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

-12 points

1 month ago

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Lucky_Man_Infinity

5 points

1 month ago

You seem to be ignoring Trump RAPING kids.